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[QUOTE=Renegade;911227]Not really, it made it explicitly clear you were illuminati.

Plus, you didn't even get the fake claim correct.

PLUS you only had to convince 2 town to lynch me since illuminati was 3 (or 4) votes strong.[/QUOTE]

Nah. cause you see, this is called Mafia. Even if I read the wrong role card when scrolling through the setup when making the claim, it is up to my peers to determine whether I slipped or not. It was widely determined I didn't slip given my ability to outline why you were scum, and [B][U]your inability[/U][/B] to properly defend yourself. I may have made it explicitly clear to you that I was Illuminati, but you didn't anything about it. In fact, all you pretty much had to say was MZ was the GF and you assume thats how I know. But you didn't. Instead you just flopped around like a fish out of water. I didn't really have to convince anyone, I just had to take back my claim and call it a gambit. Ironically, YZB checked you, cause again, you were acting scummy.

I also didn't even need to vote you. lol. idk why Bakermir decided to hammer you with time still left in the day with a vigi claim as the last thing he said, but that wasn't up to me, I was writing an exam at that time.

So yeah, I won that 1 v 1.

Originally Posted by Renegade

Not really, it made it explicitly clear you were illuminati.

Plus, you didn't even get the fake claim correct.

PLUS you only had to convince 2 town to lynch me since illuminati was 3 (or 4) votes strong.

Nah. cause you see, this is called Mafia. Even if I read the wrong role card when scrolling through the setup when making the claim, it is up to my peers to determine whether I slipped or not. It was widely determined I didn't slip given my ability to outline why you were scum, and your inability to properly defend yourself. I may have made it explicitly clear to you that I was Illuminati, but you didn't anything about it. In fact, all you pretty much had to say was MZ was the GF and you assume thats how I know. But you didn't. Instead you just flopped around like a fish out of water. I didn't really have to convince anyone, I just had to take back my claim and call it a gambit. Ironically, YZB checked you, cause again, you were acting scummy.

I also didn't even need to vote you. lol. idk why Bakermir decided to hammer you with time still left in the day with a vigi claim as the last thing he said, but that wasn't up to me, I was writing an exam at that time.

So yeah, I won that 1 v 1.

I won my 1 v 1. I'm still a winner at heart

I won my 1 v 1. I'm still a winner at heart

Just yeet Auwt, check me, clear me, and we know who to go for tomorrow. I'm off to work, it's very straight forward

Just yeet Auwt, check me, clear me, and we know who to go for tomorrow. I'm off to work, it's very straight forward

welp, i assume since the games not done that there's Illuminati

[vote]Auwt[/vote]

nice shot Martin, that vigi claim was a give away

welp, i assume since the games not done that there's Illuminati

-vote Auwt

nice shot Martin, that vigi claim was a give away

[QUOTE=yzb25;911044]ppl I was paraphrasing the "you guys". "you guys" does not include oneself. Goddammit ppl T_T[/QUOTE]

I would slightly argue otherwise as I'm pretty sure i have said the exact same thing as Auwt just did 101 times, if not more. It's just a slightly mute point imo

Originally Posted by yzb25

ppl I was paraphrasing the "you guys". "you guys" does not include oneself. Goddammit ppl T_T

I would slightly argue otherwise as I'm pretty sure i have said the exact same thing as Auwt just did 101 times, if not more. It's just a slightly mute point imo

[QUOTE=yzb25;911040]I don't like the fact he spent his remaining motivation giving a long defense of a scumread on a dead town, that can effectively be summarized as "he was p much null until he made an opportunistic read on me", but that might be a player thing I suppose.

I was mainly thinking of the giving up thing he last posted tho. He said "your" win - didn't include himself in it. And he sounds awfully bummed and defeatist given in his town world mafias are about to get lynched and he's about to get an ez win.[/QUOTE]

He may have said that way back but looking at his most recent quote, I believe he said "whenever you guys" which I guess can still have the same argument made, but I don't think it's the same thing as said "when you're ready"
Very confused by auwts slot though tbh

Originally Posted by yzb25

I don't like the fact he spent his remaining motivation giving a long defense of a scumread on a dead town, that can effectively be summarized as "he was p much null until he made an opportunistic read on me", but that might be a player thing I suppose.

I was mainly thinking of the giving up thing he last posted tho. He said "your" win - didn't include himself in it. And he sounds awfully bummed and defeatist given in his town world mafias are about to get lynched and he's about to get an ez win.

He may have said that way back but looking at his most recent quote, I believe he said "whenever you guys" which I guess can still have the same argument made, but I don't think it's the same thing as said "when you're ready"
Very confused by auwts slot though tbh

whatsup, just finished my final exam! woohooo, ya girl got all 90s this semester. time to catch up

whatsup, just finished my final exam! woohooo, ya girl got all 90s this semester. time to catch up

Good morning

Good morning

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;910998]Indeed.[/QUOTE]

I'll leave it at that and be back in the morning. I do have an exam in the AM, so if I wake up late, I'll see you all in 12 hours or so.

toodles

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Indeed.

I'll leave it at that and be back in the morning. I do have an exam in the AM, so if I wake up late, I'll see you all in 12 hours or so.

toodles

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;910994]Not at all. I'm just processing all possibilities. And right now, this awfully looks like scum trying to look like they have a pro-town role, but I'm trying to consider everything plausible.[/QUOTE]

ah, very well... consider away... i think we are both in agreeance what's clear here

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Not at all. I'm just processing all possibilities. And right now, this awfully looks like scum trying to look like they have a pro-town role, but I'm trying to consider everything plausible.

ah, very well... consider away... i think we are both in agreeance what's clear here

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;910989][B][I]Huh?[/I][/B] Okay XD

Who did you heal N1?
[COLOR="#00FF00"]citizen[/COLOR].[/QUOTE]

please don't tell me you're buying it

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Huh? Okay XD

Who did you heal N1?
citizen.

please don't tell me you're buying it

im not sure if you've made yourself look better than MattZed did... which wasn't too great either

im not sure if you've made yourself look better than MattZed did... which wasn't too great either

oh, that would make more sense

oh, that would make more sense

if not, much more

if not, much more

[QUOTE=bakermir;910979]How much left on EoD? I am confused[/QUOTE]

I think like 12 hours

Originally Posted by bakermir

How much left on EoD? I am confused

I think like 12 hours

I think we should lynch renegade and you shoot or check whomever, your call.

I think we should lynch renegade and you shoot or check whomever, your call.

[QUOTE=bakermir;910967]I don't know if yzb is a liar or not or rene here. [/QUOTE]

i feel like if he was really a rb'd doc then that would have been the first thing he said when i accused him of being a consig/mafia....

Originally Posted by bakermir

I don't know if yzb is a liar or not or rene here.

i feel like if he was really a rb'd doc then that would have been the first thing he said when i accused him of being a consig/mafia....

[QUOTE=bakermir;910954]I know I am not sover and I am hungry also so it is making me grumpy but I have read the setup and observed the game carefully. You all fucked up big time with no flip d1 and I am not really letting that slide[/QUOTE]

enlighten me, what do you suggest we do?

Originally Posted by bakermir

I know I am not sover and I am hungry also so it is making me grumpy but I have read the setup and observed the game carefully. You all fucked up big time with no flip d1 and I am not really letting that slide

enlighten me, what do you suggest we do?

I'm pretty sure we're all in agreeance that Martin is the CT

I'm pretty sure we're all in agreeance that Martin is the CT

I love the way you squirm in the hot seat

I love the way you squirm in the hot seat

OMG LOLOLOLOL
i love it, I FUCKING LOVE IT

OMG LOLOLOLOL
i love it, I FUCKING LOVE IT

[QUOTE=yzb25;910916]

Rene been matt's bitch[/QUOTE]

And here I was calling MM his butt buddy... oh my have the tables turned...

Originally Posted by yzb25

Rene been matt's bitch

And here I was calling MM his butt buddy... oh my have the tables turned...

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;910911] which means it was 100 % the best course of action to lynch Auwt before you (I literally had this thought process myself).[/QUOTE]

I have the same thought process as well, however, I just feel like if I was in his position I would have just slapped my vote down between either of us. Either way, both of us are scum from his PoV, why wait til someone else demands he votes? if he was hesitant to vote in the first place, why even slap your vote when called to place one given you're "unsure" which is the best course of action. MZ determined the best course of action for him when he was pinged to vote. not himself.

idk if that makes sense, but it does in my head

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

which means it was 100 % the best course of action to lynch Auwt before you (I literally had this thought process myself).

I have the same thought process as well, however, I just feel like if I was in his position I would have just slapped my vote down between either of us. Either way, both of us are scum from his PoV, why wait til someone else demands he votes? if he was hesitant to vote in the first place, why even slap your vote when called to place one given you're "unsure" which is the best course of action. MZ determined the best course of action for him when he was pinged to vote. not himself.

idk if that makes sense, but it does in my head

[QUOTE=Mesk514;910906]I literally got pinged to sign and said I would play but my activity would be lacking. MattZed cannot request me to sign for a game then use my unavailability which was forwarned against me, lol. That's called a cheap shot. aka picking on low hanging fruit. Something that you're [B][COLOR="#FFFFFF"][SIZE=3]now****[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] focusing on cause you have nothing else to use as a rebuttal against your shitty chart which did pretty much nothing[/QUOTE]

^^^

Originally Posted by Mesk514

I literally got pinged to sign and said I would play but my activity would be lacking. MattZed cannot request me to sign for a game then use my unavailability which was forwarned against me, lol. That's called a cheap shot. aka picking on low hanging fruit. Something that you're now**** focusing on cause you have nothing else to use as a rebuttal against your shitty chart which did pretty much nothing

^^^

[QUOTE=Renegade;910905]Then don't sign for a game and use it as a shield? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I forgot we are on sc2mafia where goofy stuff like that gets a pass cuz you've been around for years. But I'm the fence sitter![/QUOTE]

I literally got pinged to sign and said I would play but my activity would be lacking. MattZed cannot request me to sign for a game then use my unavailability which was forwarned against me, lol. That's called a cheap shot. aka picking on low hanging fruit. Something that you're not focusing on cause you have nothing else to use as a rebuttal against your shitty chart which did pretty much nothing

Originally Posted by Renegade

Then don't sign for a game and use it as a shield? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I forgot we are on sc2mafia where goofy stuff like that gets a pass cuz you've been around for years. But I'm the fence sitter!

I literally got pinged to sign and said I would play but my activity would be lacking. MattZed cannot request me to sign for a game then use my unavailability which was forwarned against me, lol. That's called a cheap shot. aka picking on low hanging fruit. Something that you're not focusing on cause you have nothing else to use as a rebuttal against your shitty chart which did pretty much nothing

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;910886]Mesk you really fucked up the gambit by calling him consig instead of godfather.[/QUOTE]

I know, that's what happens when there's too many spoilers to go through and you're on your phone after working 12 hours. lol
but I'm 99.9% sure it worked.

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Mesk you really fucked up the gambit by calling him consig instead of godfather.

I know, that's what happens when there's too many spoilers to go through and you're on your phone after working 12 hours. lol
but I'm 99.9% sure it worked.

His chart shit doesn't even actually say anything, lol. He doesn't form any beliefs or conclusions... it's pretty much left for the person to read to interpret what he's trying to say... which is vague.... and another example of fence sitting

His chart shit doesn't even actually say anything, lol. He doesn't form any beliefs or conclusions... it's pretty much left for the person to read to interpret what he's trying to say... which is vague.... and another example of fence sitting

[QUOTE=MartinGG99;910878]

I would also like to note that I did check Auwt's interactions with Mesk514 before I left, and he has quoted or mentioned Mesk quite a few times in his ISO (at least 9 times on D1). so I don't really get why Renegade says this earlier:



When that isn't exactly true.

Well, technically they didn't [B][I]directly[/I][/B] interact all that much, but Auwt sure said her name quite a few times, or many times if you relatively consider the length of Auwt's ISO.[/QUOTE]

It is fluff. Long posts and shit appear sometimes to be towny, but they're not always. In this case there's actually not much that can be determined from his long post + I has inaccuracies. lol

Originally Posted by MartinGG99

I would also like to note that I did check Auwt's interactions with Mesk514 before I left, and he has quoted or mentioned Mesk quite a few times in his ISO (at least 9 times on D1). so I don't really get why Renegade says this earlier:



When that isn't exactly true.

Well, technically they didn't directly interact all that much, but Auwt sure said her name quite a few times, or many times if you relatively consider the length of Auwt's ISO.

It is fluff. Long posts and shit appear sometimes to be towny, but they're not always. In this case there's actually not much that can be determined from his long post + I has inaccuracies. lol

[QUOTE=Renegade;910874]
better than "oh I have no time to play and I'm in a car rn" LOL[/QUOTE]

lmfao you're gonna attack the fact i have a full time job while in the midst in exams. low and pathetic, keep grasping on those strings

Originally Posted by Renegade

better than "oh I have no time to play and I'm in a car rn" LOL

lmfao you're gonna attack the fact i have a full time job while in the midst in exams. low and pathetic, keep grasping on those strings

and your chart was shit

and your chart was shit

[QUOTE=Renegade;910870]We will deal with you tomorrow once Marino gets his purple chekc onyou.

Purple sheriff with a boggled claim lmaooo[/QUOTE]

I'm not even a sheriff, lol. Martin can check me, that's fine. That still doesn't discredit your stupid scummy fence sitting, literally requiring others to do the work for you lolol

Originally Posted by Renegade

We will deal with you tomorrow once Marino gets his purple chekc onyou.

Purple sheriff with a boggled claim lmaooo

I'm not even a sheriff, lol. Martin can check me, that's fine. That still doesn't discredit your stupid scummy fence sitting, literally requiring others to do the work for you lolol

Also, hello Bakemir

Also, hello Bakemir

[QUOTE=Renegade;910866][vote]Auwt[/vote][/QUOTE]

Why don't you put your vote back on me? Is it because everyone else is now looking at auwt ? Lol

Originally Posted by Renegade

-vote Auwt

Why don't you put your vote back on me? Is it because everyone else is now looking at auwt ? Lol

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;910814]Note that I townread you now so I'm just arguing about the validity of the Renegade scumread here.

Martin's feedback doesn't reveal anything about the presence of Illuminati: if there are none, his feedback is a coinflip. Your point about general fencesitting is valid, but this is based on a bad premise.[/QUOTE]

Eh, I understand what you're saying but I'm pretty sure that only really excuses the PoV that I was the consig. I'm i was an Illuminati sheriff the who the fuck cares which order Auwt and I are lynched? Also, I'm pretty sure if he believed I was a true consing then we wouldn't have any Illuminati and the feedback ok auwt should be dismissed instead of taken into consideration.

I understand it's flawed, but to me it's telling. It's not really even considered properly by him. He needed help to get out of my claim

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Note that I townread you now so I'm just arguing about the validity of the Renegade scumread here.

Martin's feedback doesn't reveal anything about the presence of Illuminati: if there are none, his feedback is a coinflip. Your point about general fencesitting is valid, but this is based on a bad premise.

Eh, I understand what you're saying but I'm pretty sure that only really excuses the PoV that I was the consig. I'm i was an Illuminati sheriff the who the fuck cares which order Auwt and I are lynched? Also, I'm pretty sure if he believed I was a true consing then we wouldn't have any Illuminati and the feedback ok auwt should be dismissed instead of taken into consideration.

I understand it's flawed, but to me it's telling. It's not really even considered properly by him. He needed help to get out of my claim

[MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION] ^^^^^^

@Marshmallow Marshall ^^^^^^

and then again, I challenge him to a 1 v 1 and he basically says "i wanna let others decide for themselves" basically waiting for someone to help him

and then again, I challenge him to a 1 v 1 and he basically says "i wanna let others decide for themselves" basically waiting for someone to help him

He said my claim was planned in a night chat lol then immediately jumped to the conclusion that i was a consig myself or a sheriff.
If I was consig myself then i would be on his side if there was Illuminati, which was the revealed feedback from martin. If I was Illuminati sheriff then why does it matter if people wanna vote auwt or not? either one of us from his PoV would be Illuminati lolololol, he literally had to have MZ ping him to vote me then said I'm not sure if people wanted to vote auwt or not. WHICH WOULDN'T MATTER. Again, more fence sitting. Fence sitting to appeal to others

He said my claim was planned in a night chat lol then immediately jumped to the conclusion that i was a consig myself or a sheriff.
If I was consig myself then i would be on his side if there was Illuminati, which was the revealed feedback from martin. If I was Illuminati sheriff then why does it matter if people wanna vote auwt or not? either one of us from his PoV would be Illuminati lolololol, he literally had to have MZ ping him to vote me then said I'm not sure if people wanted to vote auwt or not. WHICH WOULDN'T MATTER. Again, more fence sitting. Fence sitting to appeal to others

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;910798]lmao[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure it worked

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

lmao

I'm pretty sure it worked

Sure, boggled fake claim, but your reaction speaks for itself.

Sure, boggled fake claim, but your reaction speaks for itself.

Renegade did nothing but fence sit and then just vote me as low hanging fruit knowing joining frinckles train would be bad, and probably because the other train was his partner. It's simple.

Illuminati is much more important here is there is one. Do I know Renegade is Consig, mafia, godather, Illuminati, no, but he's definitely scum. He squirmed when I claimed

Renegade did nothing but fence sit and then just vote me as low hanging fruit knowing joining frinckles train would be bad, and probably because the other train was his partner. It's simple.

Illuminati is much more important here is there is one. Do I know Renegade is Consig, mafia, godather, Illuminati, no, but he's definitely scum. He squirmed when I claimed

oh and how convientent, they're both on my train. Cute

oh and how convientent, they're both on my train. Cute

I must confess, I am actually a citizen, but I love the fact that Renegade basically conceded and had MattZed have to ping him to vote me. PogChamp

lynch me for it, I don't care. But based on his reaction, Renegade and probably MattZed are scum. Not only that, but the fact that they completely disregarded the Illuminati feedback says it all

I must confess, I am actually a citizen, but I love the fact that Renegade basically conceded and had MattZed have to ping him to vote me.

lynch me for it, I don't care. But based on his reaction, Renegade and probably MattZed are scum. Not only that, but the fact that they completely disregarded the Illuminati feedback says it all

[QUOTE=Renegade;910761]What does a 1v1 with you entail? This isn't quake arena.

You've made your claim, let's let others judge its validity.[/QUOTE]

So passive, how terrible

Originally Posted by Renegade

What does a 1v1 with you entail? This isn't quake arena.

You've made your claim, let's let others judge its validity.

So passive, how terrible

lol, yes, disappear...

lol, yes, disappear...

[MENTION=30852]Renegade[/MENTION] , I challenge you to a 1 v 1 sir, do you accept?

@Renegade , I challenge you to a 1 v 1 sir, do you accept?

illuminati** however you spell it

illuminati** however you spell it

[B]if I am Mafia, I don't think my teammate would be illumnati [/B]

if I am Mafia, I don't think my teammate would be illumnati

[QUOTE=Mesk514;910746]also, only scum wanna try and push me D1[/QUOTE]

Scum & MM. which could be the same thing

Originally Posted by Mesk514

also, only scum wanna try and push me D1

Scum & MM. which could be the same thing

[QUOTE=yzb25;910739]Did you suspect maybe there was another sheriff checking slots? Or am I totally off here.

Cuz matt seemed like ur biggest scumread and u'd naturally want to check them???[/QUOTE]

also, only scum wanna try and push me D1

Originally Posted by yzb25

Did you suspect maybe there was another sheriff checking slots? Or am I totally off here.

Cuz matt seemed like ur biggest scumread and u'd naturally want to check them???

also, only scum wanna try and push me D1

[QUOTE=yzb25;910739]Did you suspect maybe there was another sheriff checking slots? Or am I totally off here.

Cuz matt seemed like ur biggest scumread and u'd naturally want to check them???[/QUOTE]


MattZed is already widely scum read, he can be lynched without a check. FENCE SITTING.... it's all about fence sitting. I always shoot/check the fence sitters.

Originally Posted by yzb25

Did you suspect maybe there was another sheriff checking slots? Or am I totally off here.

Cuz matt seemed like ur biggest scumread and u'd naturally want to check them???

MattZed is already widely scum read, he can be lynched without a check. FENCE SITTING.... it's all about fence sitting. I always shoot/check the fence sitters.