[QUOTE=oliverz144;951824]Ugh
Where is gikkle from
Where is lag from
I think lolde is german i refently heard
Prepare on a cfd on either lag or gikkle
I need to know their location[/QUOTE]
ffs this is the STUPIDEST SHIT I'VE EVER SEEN, we are NOT doing POE based on timezones. PERIOD.
And i'm not from germany.
You should 1) stop wasting your time on that or 2) if you DO think you have a GREAT idea EXPLAIN IT BEFOREHANDS, so we'll explain why its wrong or, maybe, be convinced and tell you if it does seem relevant.
Originally Posted by oliverz144
Ugh
Where is gikkle from
Where is lag from
I think lolde is german i refently heard
Prepare on a cfd on either lag or gikkle
I need to know their location
ffs this is the STUPIDEST SHIT I'VE EVER SEEN, we are NOT doing POE based on timezones. PERIOD.
And i'm not from germany.
You should 1) stop wasting your time on that or 2) if you DO think you have a GREAT idea EXPLAIN IT BEFOREHANDS, so we'll explain why its wrong or, maybe, be convinced and tell you if it does seem relevant.
I may have to be off closer to EoD so i'll get my vote back on PQR since no one else seems to want to vote oliver.
[VOTE]PQRnHack[/VOTE]
[QUOTE=Lag;951813]I'm going to veto this, oliver doesn't go over today[/QUOTE]
'kay. He wasnt as unhelpful last game tho,
[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;951814]Revisiting this, in my last game with renegade I mislynched him as town because he refused to give reads of any sort.[/QUOTE]
Well, fuck. If you are MM-ing me then wp you are my top town anyway.
I may have to be off closer to EoD so i'll get my vote back on PQR since no one else seems to want to vote oliver.
-vote PQRnHack
Originally Posted by Lag
I'm going to veto this, oliver doesn't go over today
'kay. He wasnt as unhelpful last game tho,
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
Revisiting this, in my last game with renegade I mislynched him as town because he refused to give reads of any sort.
Well, fuck. If you are MM-ing me then wp you are my top town anyway.
[QUOTE=Renegade;951774]Because this is how I play.[/QUOTE]
[MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION] [MENTION=11411]Lag[/MENTION] [MENTION=45931]Gikkle[/MENTION] [MENTION=12998]PQRnHack[/MENTION] [MENTION=6527]Voss[/MENTION] [MENTION=15807]Stealthbomber16[/MENTION]
Is this actually true ? I'd like at least 3 of you confirming to avoid being rekt like MM did me last game.
Ignore me one more more time, ONE MORE GODDAM TIME, i dare ya, i double dare ya moth********.
Seriously tho, why are you refusing to commit any reads at all ? Enough's enough, give us a read list or i'm voting you.
Ignore me one more more time, ONE MORE GODDAM TIME, i dare ya, i double dare ya moth********.
Seriously tho, why are you refusing to commit any reads at all ? Enough's enough, give us a read list or i'm voting you.
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;951762]I do not like this kind of setup speculation. Why can't 3 towns be in a permanent chat? They don't know they're all town, so it absolutely can work. It's not like they become masons or something. Power roles are actually not that strong in this setup, so I wouldn't base lynches on speculation of what scum could have as power roles.[/QUOTE]
This is also true. In general i dont think one should base a solve on role distribution.
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
I do not like this kind of setup speculation. Why can't 3 towns be in a permanent chat? They don't know they're all town, so it absolutely can work. It's not like they become masons or something. Power roles are actually not that strong in this setup, so I wouldn't base lynches on speculation of what scum could have as power roles.
This is also true. In general i dont think one should base a solve on role distribution.
[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;951756]That puts all the PRs that can help scum control the votes under town control. That seems like a weak scum setup, doesn’t it?[/QUOTE]
You misunderstood : i said 2 congressmen INSTEAD OF 1 + 1 voter. I mean a scum team of 2 congressmen + 1 PR.
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
That puts all the PRs that can help scum control the votes under town control. That seems like a weak scum setup, doesn’t it?
You misunderstood : i said 2 congressmen INSTEAD OF 1 + 1 voter. I mean a scum team of 2 congressmen + 1 PR.
[QUOTE=Lag;951755]Do you hard-claim voter? If you're congressman, now is the time to claim and admit you were just doing some fancy play syndrome[/QUOTE]
Yes i hard claim voter. Trust me if i was congressman you'd have heard about it.
Originally Posted by Lag
Do you hard-claim voter? If you're congressman, now is the time to claim and admit you were just doing some fancy play syndrome
Yes i hard claim voter. Trust me if i was congressman you'd have heard about it.
What balancing ? Why would only one be more balanced ? It changes absolutely nothing outside WIFOM. Congressman is glorified voter and would have been literal voter had you followed voss' advice.
I have a really hard time believing the "oh host would balance like this because else..." arguments because the FACT THAT YOU THINK THAT IS AN INCENTIVE.
Let me rephrase that :
Thinking scum cannot be medic because his role would be useless makes medic more valuable to scum.
In a similar manner, having 2 congressmen instead of 1 gives the second a kind of cover.
Originally Posted by oliverz144
Balancing?
What balancing ? Why would only one be more balanced ? It changes absolutely nothing outside WIFOM. Congressman is glorified voter and would have been literal voter had you followed voss' advice.
I have a really hard time believing the "oh host would balance like this because else..." arguments because the FACT THAT YOU THINK THAT IS AN INCENTIVE.
Let me rephrase that :
Thinking scum cannot be medic because his role would be useless makes medic more valuable to scum.
In a similar manner, having 2 congressmen instead of 1 gives the second a kind of cover.
[QUOTE=oliverz144;951724]This is the 2nd time lolde comes out to say smth and then goes bacc into his lurking place
This is scummy[/QUOTE]
Are you insane ? I posted once more literally 3 minutes after that one, so that means you jumped onto saying that before waiting to see if i posted anything else... Do you realize that you are scumpainting, for... what exactly ?... If you do want to go there i'll jump onto the occasion and say that renegade did that pretty much all game, as pointed out by lag.
I dont know Renegade but i get really, really bad vibes from that slot, i [I]still[/I] dont know WHY you see PQR as legit... You've criticised his D2 at least once, tho. Is renegade's town really like that ?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
This is the 2nd time lolde comes out to say smth and then goes bacc into his lurking place
This is scummy
Are you insane ? I posted once more literally 3 minutes after that one, so that means you jumped onto saying that before waiting to see if i posted anything else... Do you realize that you are scumpainting, for... what exactly ?... If you do want to go there i'll jump onto the occasion and say that renegade did that pretty much all game, as pointed out by lag.
I dont know Renegade but i get really, really bad vibes from that slot, i still dont know WHY you see PQR as legit... You've criticised his D2 at least once, tho. Is renegade's town really like that ?
oh my [I]god[/I] what is even going on, this is almost h-2 and i feel like town is about to implode...
Paopan is acting like a scumbag, oliverz is still posting air, PQR vanished, renegade took out the paint bucket... Is there 6 scum in this game or what ?!
[VOTE]unvote[/VOTE]
I still think he's scum but there may be better lynches after all, somehow ?! I want time to think.
oh my god what is even going on, this is almost h-2 and i feel like town is about to implode...
Paopan is acting like a scumbag, oliverz is still posting air, PQR vanished, renegade took out the paint bucket... Is there 6 scum in this game or what ?!
-vote unvote
I still think he's scum but there may be better lynches after all, somehow ?! I want time to think.
[QUOTE=oliverz144;951645]Now u r a possible nk performer[/QUOTE]
That's a largely irrelevant. Town doesnt give a crap about who performs the NK (yet). It is very, very unlikely that ALL of the corrupt have night actions, especially with no dead on their side.
[QUOTE=oliverz144;951647]Voss claimed sa, He never was cmen, Just hinted at it in main thread[/QUOTE]
By "breadcrumb yourself as" i meant "hint at you being"
[QUOTE=oliverz144;951648]Yeah but we chatted only after clain[/QUOTE]
I still dont see [I]any[/I] upsides for town to discussing anything privately rather than publicly, you both obviously do, and i would very much like to know why.
Originally Posted by oliverz144
Now u r a possible nk performer
That's a largely irrelevant. Town doesnt give a crap about who performs the NK (yet). It is very, very unlikely that ALL of the corrupt have night actions, especially with no dead on their side.
Originally Posted by oliverz144
Voss claimed sa, He never was cmen, Just hinted at it in main thread
By "breadcrumb yourself as" i meant "hint at you being"
Originally Posted by oliverz144
Yeah but we chatted only after clain
I still dont see any upsides for town to discussing anything privately rather than publicly, you both obviously do, and i would very much like to know why.
[MENTION=6527]Voss[/MENTION] why did you breadcrumb yourself as CM if you're SA ?
[SPOILER=breadcrumbing post][QUOTE=Voss;950475]I'd really like to make sure the [COLOR="#FF0000"]other[/COLOR] congresspeople don't use their chat as it only helps scum, so mechanics are important to me here. And I[COLOR="#FF0000"] don't want to type this into the congressperson chat[/COLOR] because then the other congresspeople will know I'm a congressperson.[/QUOTE][/SPOILER]
PQR has had a terrible influence on you. You definitly should've listened to Voss.
@Voss
why did you breadcrumb yourself as CM if you're SA ?
Spoiler : breadcrumbing post :
Originally Posted by Voss
I'd really like to make sure the other congresspeople don't use their chat as it only helps scum, so mechanics are important to me here. And I don't want to type this into the congressperson chat because then the other congresspeople will know I'm a congressperson.
Originally Posted by oliverz144
Beep, beep, beep, beep
PQR has had a terrible influence on you. You definitly should've listened to Voss.
[QUOTE=PQRnHack;951495]There was more than one lie, I said it more than once. I am responding to the first 2 sentences i read, will read the rest next.[/QUOTE]
could you STOP SPAMMING the thread FACTORIZE your answres, then ???
Seriously, why make 10 fucking posts about it when you could make 1 ?? It would be more precise, better understood etc... it would have a LOT more impact overall...
AND it's less ANNOYING !!
It's in your interest and town's, which may be a very rare occurrence !
[QUOTE=Voss;951512]Doo you admit to posting in the congresspeople chat after saying that you liked my idea for congress people NOT to use the chat??[/QUOTE]
Fun fact : that post about why CM shouldnt use the chat is why he TR you D1, and he still used the chat (to pocket oliverz ?) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Originally Posted by PQRnHack
There was more than one lie, I said it more than once. I am responding to the first 2 sentences i read, will read the rest next.
could you STOP SPAMMING the thread FACTORIZE your answres, then ???
Seriously, why make 10 fucking posts about it when you could make 1 ?? It would be more precise, better understood etc... it would have a LOT more impact overall...
AND it's less ANNOYING !!
It's in your interest and town's, which may be a very rare occurrence !
Originally Posted by Voss
Doo you admit to posting in the congresspeople chat after saying that you liked my idea for congress people NOT to use the chat??
Fun fact : that post about why CM shouldnt use the chat is why he TR you D1, and he still used the chat (to pocket oliverz ?) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[QUOTE=Lag;951439]Someone mentioned earlier that my VCA for EoD is wrong because PQ was the main day 1 wagon. That felt wrong so I plotted where everyones votes were over the course of day - it updates only when a new vote comes in, so the time scale is distorted, but it gets the point across:
And like, PQ is pretty clearly [I]not[/I] ever really at risk here, so where is that idea coming from? Did I record a vote wrong somewhere?
This shows he was tied with Frinckles for quite a bit of time. I'll admit I didnt remember oliver/Voss voting Frinckles that early. Being tied for lynch a few hours before EoD doesnt seem trivial to me either.
[QUOTE=PQRnHack;951459]What is also telling is that Frinck votes from me, oliver, and Voss stuck around for a long time (can you add the timeframes in 1st column so i know the time units? like hours or 2 hour chunks). So there really wasnt any massive shift or switch. Just a late straggler in Gikkle to add a vote (and a short blip from Rene).
Am I reading/analyzing this correctly?[/QUOTE]
1) the timeframe is recorded votes if i understood correctly, so this chart should actually read more like it had a logatithmic time-scale from bottom to top, because there were far, far, FAR more votes near EoD than over the course of the day.
2) maybe i'm just shit at wagonomics, why is the fact that your votes stuck a good thing ?
[QUOTE=Voss;951479]i'm not going to say where and by how much, but, this list is incorrect.[/QUOTE]
It likely is, i listed you as congressman according to oliverz/PQR claims, i wanted to record what claims imply to be true.
[QUOTE=PQRnHack;951482]Strange language you are using there. I was being genuine: it is a reasonable request for me to ask that you finish the roleclaim, as only YOU have no claimed yet. In any event here is the lie (or at least a failure on facts, i said it later that im not sure if legit intended or not, i even have my own hypothesis on this but lolde ignores me so whatever) in red color. Lolde never really bothered to give 2 shits about it either, since I did reveal it myself as no one else knew the answer.
And my later statements since no one else does my homework for me.[/QUOTE]
I was convinced the game started on december 13th, somehow. Even thought the game-opening post was from that day too, i must've been tired stupid when i did... I was shocked because i didnt recall you voting that early, but made the post anyway.
So you werent obvious, i'll give you that.
As i suspected, you are congressman (that is what your "i have reasons which you know, but because of the host i cannot reveal it" thingy meant), but it is still unclear what/how you being congressman influenced your Frinckles vote.
Originally Posted by Lag
Someone mentioned earlier that my VCA for EoD is wrong because PQ was the main day 1 wagon. That felt wrong so I plotted where everyones votes were over the course of day - it updates only when a new vote comes in, so the time scale is distorted, but it gets the point across:
And like, PQ is pretty clearly not ever really at risk here, so where is that idea coming from? Did I record a vote wrong somewhere?
This shows he was tied with Frinckles for quite a bit of time. I'll admit I didnt remember oliver/Voss voting Frinckles that early. Being tied for lynch a few hours before EoD doesnt seem trivial to me either.
Originally Posted by PQRnHack
What is also telling is that Frinck votes from me, oliver, and Voss stuck around for a long time (can you add the timeframes in 1st column so i know the time units? like hours or 2 hour chunks). So there really wasnt any massive shift or switch. Just a late straggler in Gikkle to add a vote (and a short blip from Rene).
Am I reading/analyzing this correctly?
1) the timeframe is recorded votes if i understood correctly, so this chart should actually read more like it had a logatithmic time-scale from bottom to top, because there were far, far, FAR more votes near EoD than over the course of the day.
2) maybe i'm just shit at wagonomics, why is the fact that your votes stuck a good thing ?
Originally Posted by Voss
i'm not going to say where and by how much, but, this list is incorrect.
It likely is, i listed you as congressman according to oliverz/PQR claims, i wanted to record what claims imply to be true.
Originally Posted by PQRnHack
Strange language you are using there. I was being genuine: it is a reasonable request for me to ask that you finish the roleclaim, as only YOU have no claimed yet. In any event here is the lie (or at least a failure on facts, i said it later that im not sure if legit intended or not, i even have my own hypothesis on this but lolde ignores me so whatever) in red color. Lolde never really bothered to give 2 shits about it either, since I did reveal it myself as no one else knew the answer.
And my later statements since no one else does my homework for me.
I was convinced the game started on december 13th, somehow. Even thought the game-opening post was from that day too, i must've been tired stupid when i did... I was shocked because i didnt recall you voting that early, but made the post anyway.
So you werent obvious, i'll give you that.
As i suspected, you are congressman (that is what your "i have reasons which you know, but because of the host i cannot reveal it" thingy meant), but it is still unclear what/how you being congressman influenced your Frinckles vote.
[QUOTE=Lag;951423]What slots do you have questions on in particular?
And also, what are [I]your[/I] reads. You've done a lot of asking questions but you have yet to put all your thoughts in one place. Just quips here and there.[/QUOTE]
IIRC you TR gikkle, and estimate me, PQR & Voss at town-lean, why's that ?
Originally Posted by Lag
What slots do you have questions on in particular?
And also, what are your reads. You've done a lot of asking questions but you have yet to put all your thoughts in one place. Just quips here and there.
IIRC you TR gikkle, and estimate me, PQR & Voss at town-lean, why's that ?
[QUOTE=Lag;951416]If people want to fakeclaim medic and take bullets for me, they are more than welcome to, I'm not going to CC them. Once I publicly claim though I'm kind of forced to self-heal - means only 1 confirmed town from a night with no kills. But if I can save someone [I]else[/I] then that makes two confirmed town rather than just one.
CCing the claim would have been a very dumb thing for me to do, lol[/QUOTE]
Well, since your target is not informed, you cannot infact, confirm any town at all. Scum may always skip the NK, with no invest roles there is no pressure on them. They did it just to WIFOM and try to bait a ML last game, so scum would 100% skip a NK to "confirm" their medic.
Originally Posted by Lag
If people want to fakeclaim medic and take bullets for me, they are more than welcome to, I'm not going to CC them. Once I publicly claim though I'm kind of forced to self-heal - means only 1 confirmed town from a night with no kills. But if I can save someone else then that makes two confirmed town rather than just one.
CCing the claim would have been a very dumb thing for me to do, lol
Well, since your target is not informed, you cannot infact, confirm any town at all. Scum may always skip the NK, with no invest roles there is no pressure on them. They did it just to WIFOM and try to bait a ML last game, so scum would 100% skip a NK to "confirm" their medic.
We're all thinking about it so i'll ask the rhetorical question out loud :
Is there any world in which a town State Attorney places a vote on himself ?
We're all thinking about it so i'll ask the rhetorical question out loud :
Is there any world in which a town State Attorney places a vote on himself ?
[QUOTE=Loldebite;951409]So that's what we'd get :
Marshmallow Marshall Gov'nor
NotPaopan State attorney?
Lag Medic
Gikkle Voter
Loldebite Voter
PQRnHack Congressman
oliverz144 Congressman
Voss Congressman?
Renegade Mayor
Stealthbomber16 Judge[/QUOTE]
i thought the spaces would make them look nice... I hate html in a way that cannot be conveyed through words alone.
Originally Posted by Loldebite
So that's what we'd get :
Marshmallow Marshall Gov'nor
NotPaopan State attorney?
Lag Medic
Gikkle Voter
Loldebite Voter
PQRnHack Congressman
oliverz144 Congressman
Voss Congressman?
Renegade Mayor
Stealthbomber16 Judge
i thought the spaces would make them look nice... I hate html in a way that cannot be conveyed through words alone.
So that's what we'd get :
Marshmallow Marshall Gov'nor
NotPaopan State attorney?
Lag Medic
Gikkle Voter
Loldebite Voter
PQRnHack Congressman
oliverz144 Congressman
Voss Congressman?
Renegade Mayor
Stealthbomber16 Judge
So that's what we'd get :
Marshmallow Marshall Gov'nor
NotPaopan State attorney?
Lag Medic
Gikkle Voter
Loldebite Voter
PQRnHack Congressman
oliverz144 Congressman
Voss Congressman?
Renegade Mayor
Stealthbomber16 Judge
I forgot to mention : i am a useless voter, useless in that i abstain from voting to protest against the rampant corruption in our political landscape.
I forgot to mention : i am a useless voter, useless in that i abstain from voting to protest against the rampant corruption in our political landscape.
[QUOTE=oliverz144;951391]we talked bout 10v2 or 3v9 and stuff
meta stuff
balance
discussed players
i think hes maybe not that goo as i thaugth
he pocketed me[/QUOTE]
He ended up being your top town-read based off a private chat between you two only, with "constructive discussion" that somehow wasnt constructive enough to be worth discussing with the whole town. Yes, sounds like he did pocket you lol.
Why did you vote Frinckles instead of Lag again ?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
we talked bout 10v2 or 3v9 and stuff
meta stuff
balance
discussed players
i think hes maybe not that goo as i thaugth
he pocketed me
He ended up being your top town-read based off a private chat between you two only, with "constructive discussion" that somehow wasnt constructive enough to be worth discussing with the whole town. Yes, sounds like he did pocket you lol.
Why did you vote Frinckles instead of Lag again ?
[QUOTE=oliverz144;951343]yes? i dont think so tbh[/QUOTE]
your ISO today is bad IMO : fluff posting, accumulating many empty posts in a scum PQR-fashion, putting PQR (i think it was PQR ?) at L-1 and your post clearing medic/gov/judge would be borderline suicidal as town
But then again you didnt felt legit from my POV in 334 either and you were town.
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;951347]I would tend to agree with that if it weren't for that "This is basically WIFOM and thus complete trash" one-liner addressed to PQ. You just don't say that to a scummate lol. Assuming scum!PQ, Oliver is town imo.[/QUOTE]
Idk, i have done it in the past because people spewing garbage kinda triggers me, even when said garbage is supporting my cause. But would i have sent the message in a forum-based game ? Admittedly, probably not.
Originally Posted by oliverz144
yes? i dont think so tbh
your ISO today is bad IMO : fluff posting, accumulating many empty posts in a scum PQR-fashion, putting PQR (i think it was PQR ?) at L-1 and your post clearing medic/gov/judge would be borderline suicidal as town
But then again you didnt felt legit from my POV in 334 either and you were town.
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
I would tend to agree with that if it weren't for that "This is basically WIFOM and thus complete trash" one-liner addressed to PQ. You just don't say that to a scummate lol. Assuming scum!PQ, Oliver is town imo.
Idk, i have done it in the past because people spewing garbage kinda triggers me, even when said garbage is supporting my cause. But would i have sent the message in a forum-based game ? Admittedly, probably not.
[QUOTE=PQRnHack;951267]Yo, come on now. That game had 13 unique roles, so naturally some of them landed in mafia via RNG. This game has roles assigned by Host with INTENT.[/QUOTE]
Please...
Originally Posted by PQRnHack
Yo, come on now. That game had 13 unique roles, so naturally some of them landed in mafia via RNG. This game has roles assigned by Host with INTENT.
You + MM are the main proponents of pushing people that voted for Frinckles yesterday. Now sit back and think about, why would someone make those pushes?
Is it because they genuinely believe that wolves just went out of their way to save me? Or is it because they see the opportunity for one, two, maybe even three easy MLs?
I refuse to believe that the wolves went out of their way just to save me over Frinckles. If that's the case, then I'm hard-pocketed. There's maybe [I]one[/I] wolf on my wagon, but that's it.
And then I see you + MM pushing these wagons like PQ and me, seems like you want to ML someone off of my wagon and then be like "oh, maybe that one was a miss, let's just push Lag instead to see if day 1 wagons actually were t/t?" Like this game state is just operating on bad wagonomics.
The wolves are the ones that sat back yesterday and watched town implode and are now focusing the entire gamestate around the day 1 Frinckles wagon. You + MM fit that description[/QUOTE]
I've said it before but i'll say it again : the leading train before you & frinckles got voted, even a few hours only before EoD, was PQR. That is the train that got extinguished. Those that actually were there around EoD should be able to confirm that.
Originally Posted by Lag
lmao okay
You + MM are the main proponents of pushing people that voted for Frinckles yesterday. Now sit back and think about, why would someone make those pushes?
Is it because they genuinely believe that wolves just went out of their way to save me? Or is it because they see the opportunity for one, two, maybe even three easy MLs?
I refuse to believe that the wolves went out of their way just to save me over Frinckles. If that's the case, then I'm hard-pocketed. There's maybe one wolf on my wagon, but that's it.
And then I see you + MM pushing these wagons like PQ and me, seems like you want to ML someone off of my wagon and then be like "oh, maybe that one was a miss, let's just push Lag instead to see if day 1 wagons actually were t/t?" Like this game state is just operating on bad wagonomics.
The wolves are the ones that sat back yesterday and watched town implode and are now focusing the entire gamestate around the day 1 Frinckles wagon. You + MM fit that description
I've said it before but i'll say it again : the leading train before you & frinckles got voted, even a few hours only before EoD, was PQR. That is the train that got extinguished. Those that actually were there around EoD should be able to confirm that.
[QUOTE=PQRnHack;951259]To be fair, that game had a vigilante so scum~medic was useful. In this one, while possible, scum~medic is useless but i would totally consider doing it as host to mess with the town![/QUOTE]
Mike was a scum sheriff.
Originally Posted by PQRnHack
To be fair, that game had a vigilante so scum~medic was useful. In this one, while possible, scum~medic is useless but i would totally consider doing it as host to mess with the town!
[QUOTE=oliverz144;951215]look we just found smth out (pqrn and me)
medic has to be town: otherwise theres no sense in their role power
judge+ governor are probably town: they didnt do anything n1. scum would have used their power for their goals
so if theres 2 scum power roles for balance
scum is: mayor(rene) and anonymous State attorney who placed a vote on lag[/QUOTE]
As for the medic : that assumption is what doomed town in 334, as it was the sole basis for Light's blind trust of Mike. So that is a completely false.
As for Judge/Gov : scum trying to look towny would also not use their power, WIFOM, so here again nothing conclusive. Despite my trolly claims about paopan.
As for state attorney : the vote on D1's counter-wagon is not inherently scummy, it could very well have been made by town.
Your ideas are becoming worse by the hour.
[QUOTE=oliverz144;951222]nonono you dont understand
2 power roles havbent done anything
if one of them was scum perforiming NK
then the other one was town, or he could have done his role power[/QUOTE]
Nothing other than your perception of balance points towards 2 PRs. Why not 1 PR + congressman + a voter (mafiosi) ? Since the PRs are shit for town until a scum is outted, that doesnt sound impossible to me.
Originally Posted by oliverz144
look we just found smth out (pqrn and me)
medic has to be town: otherwise theres no sense in their role power
judge+ governor are probably town: they didnt do anything n1. scum would have used their power for their goals
so if theres 2 scum power roles for balance
scum is: mayor(rene) and anonymous State attorney who placed a vote on lag
As for the medic : that assumption is what doomed town in 334, as it was the sole basis for Light's blind trust of Mike. So that is a completely false.
As for Judge/Gov : scum trying to look towny would also not use their power, WIFOM, so here again nothing conclusive. Despite my trolly claims about paopan.
As for state attorney : the vote on D1's counter-wagon is not inherently scummy, it could very well have been made by town.
Your ideas are becoming worse by the hour.
Originally Posted by oliverz144
nonono you dont understand
2 power roles havbent done anything
if one of them was scum perforiming NK
then the other one was town, or he could have done his role power
Nothing other than your perception of balance points towards 2 PRs. Why not 1 PR + congressman + a voter (mafiosi) ? Since the PRs are shit for town until a scum is outted, that doesnt sound impossible to me.
[QUOTE=PQRnHack;951167]Okay, the fact you avoided the more obvious error may be a town slip. Can you please now correct the more obvious error? I gave hints to it but i guess i have to spell it out. T W O[/QUOTE]
Okay, so you ackwnoledge that you saw that part of my post and just decided to ignore it completely ?
Well, no, i'm not going to bother figuring out something that only you seem to find bothering.
Originally Posted by PQRnHack
Okay, the fact you avoided the more obvious error may be a town slip. Can you please now correct the more obvious error? I gave hints to it but i guess i have to spell it out. T W O
Okay, so you ackwnoledge that you saw that part of my post and just decided to ignore it completely ?
Well, no, i'm not going to bother figuring out something that only you seem to find bothering.
Shit, looks like i came back too late.
[QUOTE=PQRnHack;951153][MENTION=27307]Loldebite[/MENTION] since you are online, figure out your error (welp, there was more than one).[/QUOTE]
FTR i show up online as soon as a boot my PC up, because i always have a browser window with FM tabs open, but it doesnt mean i'm not busy doing something else.
Shit, looks like i came back too late.
Originally Posted by PQRnHack
@Loldebite
since you are online, figure out your error (welp, there was more than one).
FTR i show up online as soon as a boot my PC up, because i always have a browser window with FM tabs open, but it doesnt mean i'm not busy doing something else.
[QUOTE=PQRnHack;951144][MENTION=27307]Loldebite[/MENTION] get your crap together. If you are town, then I need you to correct your earlier accusation of me (and I expect you to do the homework). If you are mafia, then to hell with you. My vote stays on you unless there forms some compelling reason to do otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Okay, i will try ONCE to answer to you again and treat you like a fellow townkin.
[QUOTE=PQRnHack;951140]That is horse poop! You are flipping it on me, when you are the one who was unilateral in your own post. your post was:
"MM, why do you not consider it's renegade that pushed away from a PQ lynch ? I might have missed something, but i did feel that people were pushing away from PQR, and i did feel renegade and voss doing such. Voss i guess was okay. Renegade claimed scumreading them earlier, so it makes absolutely no fucking sense."
So you are building this awesome narravtive about Rene and pushing away from my lynch. Are you now saying that oh oopsies im mafia and somehow i never got the brain to think that maybe renegade is town? Look at your post, does it convey the possibility of Rene as town? This is just so obtuse.[/QUOTE]
I am not "building a narrative about rene pushing away your lynch", i am merely pointing it out, because it's a fact that he did : the post i quoted in the one you are replying to proves that. I am not yet sold about him doing that because he's scum, yet you are.
I adressed my error in the exact same post, how come you didnt mention it ?
[QUOTE=Loldebite;951130]My bad, you said it was because he was out of character at about the same time you voted him. This is still the same idea of pushing someone on baseless accusations, so you're still scum.[/QUOTE]
This alone indicates that you are dishonest in this debate, ie that you are scum. You cant quote a post where i acknowledge my mistake BUT not mention that i did AND THEN pretend i never did, that's just stupid. If that wasnt the "fallacy" i made, then idk what it was and would very much like you to explain it to me.
Originally Posted by PQRnHack
@Loldebite
get your crap together. If you are town, then I need you to correct your earlier accusation of me (and I expect you to do the homework). If you are mafia, then to hell with you. My vote stays on you unless there forms some compelling reason to do otherwise.
Okay, i will try ONCE to answer to you again and treat you like a fellow townkin.
Originally Posted by PQRnHack
That is horse poop! You are flipping it on me, when you are the one who was unilateral in your own post. your post was:
"MM, why do you not consider it's renegade that pushed away from a PQ lynch ? I might have missed something, but i did feel that people were pushing away from PQR, and i did feel renegade and voss doing such. Voss i guess was okay. Renegade claimed scumreading them earlier, so it makes absolutely no fucking sense."
So you are building this awesome narravtive about Rene and pushing away from my lynch. Are you now saying that oh oopsies im mafia and somehow i never got the brain to think that maybe renegade is town? Look at your post, does it convey the possibility of Rene as town? This is just so obtuse.
I am not "building a narrative about rene pushing away your lynch", i am merely pointing it out, because it's a fact that he did : the post i quoted in the one you are replying to proves that. I am not yet sold about him doing that because he's scum, yet you are.
I adressed my error in the exact same post, how come you didnt mention it ?
Originally Posted by Loldebite
My bad, you said it was because he was out of character at about the same time you voted him. This is still the same idea of pushing someone on baseless accusations, so you're still scum.
This alone indicates that you are dishonest in this debate, ie that you are scum. You cant quote a post where i acknowledge my mistake BUT not mention that i did AND THEN pretend i never did, that's just stupid. If that wasnt the "fallacy" i made, then idk what it was and would very much like you to explain it to me.
Originally Posted by Lag
no lol, play the game ffs
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