S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

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Originally Posted by FM-Chad Knight

Your memory is probably more accurate than mine. I immediately wrote off the bows as overpriced garbage.

Regardless, the bows couldn’t kill at any point prior to Forsaken leaving because he likely had the most gold.

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My paranoia may be getting the better of me but I do not see how you would write off an insta-auto kill as garbage. I figured a scum would really want that and I think I was right.

That interaction you had with Forsaken really has me stuck. The question he asked you makes zero sense with the items you claimed and in context it really looks like he was leveraging your arm there.

Valid point on it not killing him but it could be by design. The issue that he seemed to pick items to sell makes me think he may have immunity to the bows. Why would he let the town buy stuff that would kill him? That does not make sense to me making me think he could not be effected by the bow.

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Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn

My paranoia may be getting the better of me but I do not see how you would write off an insta-auto kill as garbage. I figured a scum would really want that and I think I was right.

That interaction you had with Forsaken really has me stuck. The question he asked you makes zero sense with the items you claimed and in context it really looks like he was leveraging your arm there.

Valid point on it not killing him but it could be by design. The issue that he seemed to pick items to sell makes me think he may have immunity to the bows. Why would he let the town buy stuff that would kill him? That does not make sense to me making me think he could not be effected by the bow.

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… I’m lost.

The bows couldn’t do anything because they would all lock on to Forsaken, who had the most gold. Forsaken had immunity to attacks.

I think(?) I understand what you’re hung up on. I can’t ease that fear now but I can revisit it postgame if you would like.

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Originally Posted by FM-Purple

Bizarro's not claiming any alarming info on Dark Unicorn looks good for DU. If DU was triad Bizarro would have known that DU was in a chat and called him out for it, or just shoot him like he shot Kitty.

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If they are the source of my parasite. Again, I am not convinced they are. I trust their flip more than others and it would not make sense for their parasite to have some negative utility like that which is not mentioned in their role card.

The only way it could have been theirs imo is if they were tailored which is why I keep saying that issue is not resolved.

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Originally Posted by FM-Chad Knight

… I’m lost.

The bows couldn’t do anything because they would all lock on to Forsaken, who had the most gold. Forsaken had immunity to attacks.

I think(?) I understand what you’re hung up on. I can’t ease that fear now but I can revisit it postgame if you would like.

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Forsaken was the shop keeper.

Looking at their role card they chose which items to list and for how much.

Why would they list bows that would specifically target them if it could kill them? That does not make sense unless the bows could not harm them.

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Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn

As for my role I would rather not full claim for no reason. I could have some good utility as the game goes on but that will be substantially ruined if I claim.

On top of that roles do not equal alignments in any way. I get that typically people mass claim at some point to sort the game but unless someone can voice a reason as to why I should reveal my role I am against it. I feel it will hurt the town so there has to be some benefit other than curiosity. Lets not get caught up in 'what we would normally do' and instead consider 'what has value in this situation.'

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Yeah, this is the right lie detector target imo. Unicorn is going to be unprovable AND conflicts with Chad's feedback.

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Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn

Forsaken was the shop keeper.

Looking at their role card they chose which items to list and for how much.

Why would they list bows that would specifically target them if it could kill them? That does not make sense unless the bows could not harm them.

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You’re right. I think that points to be bows being night only- which is what I thought they were 20 minutes ago.

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Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn

My paranoia may be getting the better of me but I do not see how you would write off an insta-auto kill as garbage. I figured a scum would really want that and I think I was right.

That interaction you had with Forsaken really has me stuck. The question he asked you makes zero sense with the items you claimed and in context it really looks like he was leveraging your arm there.

Valid point on it not killing him but it could be by design. The issue that he seemed to pick items to sell makes me think he may have immunity to the bows. Why would he let the town buy stuff that would kill him? That does not make sense to me making me think he could not be effected by the bow.

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I did not buy anything for a long time. I tried buying a poison blowdart to kill Myopia on what I believe to be D2, but they were all sold before I came in. Thus, I would probably have been the victim of the Robinhood Bow in the event Forsaken would have been immune to it, right? I don't think bows were used. I don't know what happened with them either, though.

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Originally Posted by FM-Chad Knight

You’re right. I think that points to be bows being night only- which is what I thought they were 20 minutes ago.

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I am like 95% sure they are instant. I remember when I bought them I had not read about the delay and being worried that someone would quick buy and use it any moment.

There is no reason I would have asked the questions I did and been worried if it was a night only use item. Like.. I can not remember its exact wording but I do remember my thought process to the situation.

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Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn

I am like 95% sure they are instant. I remember when I bought them I had not read about the delay and being worried that someone would quick buy and use it any moment.

There is no reason I would have asked the questions I did and been worried if it was a night only use item. Like.. I can not remember its exact wording but I do remember my thought process to the situation.

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Then I got no idea.

I remember posting about how the bows were going to likely target the shopkeeper on the day they were listed. That’s all I remember about them.

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Originally Posted by FM-Is that a leaf

Yeah, this is the right lie detector target imo. Unicorn is going to be unprovable AND conflicts with Chad's feedback.

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If i lie detect anyone, it is not to confirm alignments, not doing that again.

I could lie detect his parasite claim though.

What do you think about that @FM-Dark Unicorn

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Originally Posted by FM-Purple

If i lie detect anyone, it is not to confirm alignments, not doing that again.

I could lie detect his parasite claim though.

What do you think about that @FM-Dark Unicorn

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That seems like a complete waste of a lie detector.

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Originally Posted by FM-Chad Knight

That seems like a complete waste of a lie detector.

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Not for me. If he really has a parasite then everything he is claiming about it is true as well. It removes him from my PoE.

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Originally Posted by FM-Purple

If i lie detect anyone, it is not to confirm alignments, not doing that again.

I could lie detect his parasite claim though.

What do you think about that @FM-Dark Unicorn

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I really don't care. There is no reason for me to make up a parasite claim and radically change how I play my role because of it.

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Originally Posted by FM-Chad Knight

I remember posting about how the bows were going to likely target the shopkeeper on the day they were listed. That’s all I remember about them.

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Again though, Why would the shopkeeper list an item that would specifically target and kill them? Regardless of if the action happens day or night this line of thinking does not make sense.

@FM-Is that a leaf
Any thoughts on Forsaken Bones interaction with Chad?

Or i could lie detect chad and ask him if he shot those two bows.

Or any bows, guns, day guns today, to cover it all

@FM-Dark Unicorn answer with a simply Yes or No.

Are you infected with a parasite?

@FM-Chad Knight did you shoot any weapons today? Just reply yes or no.

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Originally Posted by FM-Purple

@FM-Dark Unicorn answer with a simply Yes or No.

Are you infected with a parasite?

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Yes

I was infected with a parasite

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Originally Posted by FM-Purple

@FM-Chad Knight did you shoot any weapons today? Just reply yes or no.

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No.

I would rather you detect me than DU because their parasite claim doesn’t really need to be checked anymore.

Nah, you two had no issue answering that right away. I believe you.

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Originally Posted by FM-Chad Knight

No.

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If checked this could result a false positive. No could be an answer as 'No I will not answer' to 'Just reply yes or no'

Which is one of the reasons i tunneled Tess as well, he took his time to answer to my lie detection.

@Earless Artistre are you around?

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Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn

If checked this could result a false positive. No could be an answer as 'No I will not answer' to 'Just reply yes or no'

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I have not used any weapons or other kills.

My god

@FM-Earless Artistre are you around?

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Originally Posted by FM-Purple

@Earless Artistre are you around?

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I can be. Just woke up and work soon.
I will not be around for EoD

Lag create easier names next time!

Talk about good timing lmfao

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Originally Posted by FM-Earless Artiste

I can be. Just woke up and work soon.
I will not be around for EoD

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Just answer with a yes or no.

Have you used the death tailor action in this game?

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Originally Posted by FM-Purple

Just answer with a yes or no.

Have you used the death tailor action in this game?

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No

I am town

I didn't use death tailor

I shot myopia

That was a rather quick response too.

Nah, im gonna save it for now.

😂😂😂😂😂😂 of course you are

Eyh Earless.
Can you explain your reasoning behind shooting when you could only kill town with a shot?

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Originally Posted by FM-Earless Artiste

������������ of course you are

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Is there anything you wanna say? I feel like you eanted to say so ething but didnt have the guts to tell it to me straight.

That, hiding the death tailor, and the fact CBI is potentially also self-resolving are the major factors in my vote on you.

I hate people that throws indirects.

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Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn

Eyh Earless.
Can you explain your reasoning behind shooting when you could only kill town with a shot?

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They were widely scum read but everyone was (and practically still is) giving them a free pass. It gave me the chance to come in here and say have a confirmed scum check and if I was wrong I don't think anyone would have missed them greatly

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Originally Posted by FM-Purple

Is there anything you wanna say? I feel like you eanted to say so ething but didnt have the guts to tell it to me straight.

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Nothing at all. Not like your detector can be trust anyway.

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Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn

That, hiding the death tailor, and the fact CBI is potentially also self-resolving are the major factors in my vote on you.

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Myopias flip pretty much solves me as well...
Based on father's ability, father can basically confirm I'm telling the truth as well

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Originally Posted by FM-Earless Artiste

Nothing at all. Not like your detector can be trust anyway.

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It cannot be trusted because there are death tailors around.

I dont have to lie detect you

-vote FM-Earless Artistre