S-FM 313: Mushroom Kingdom Madness II

[bakermir]

MartinGG99

[bakermir]

actually wait.



Gyrlander explain why mario lynch is better than Martin?

[theoneceko]

I guess you can't really know, but I'm known for being a tragically shit scum (or at least used to be, and now I'm still not amazing lol). My level of confidence as scum is really not into the "overconfident" leagues, and literally anyone who knows me here can confirm.

Also, Renegade isn't confirmed scum like you're treating him, so you can't prove a point against me by using him because you also need to prove your point against him.


BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY INTERACTIONS WITH ZONE THEN???
..... lol
explain pleaseeeeeeeeeee

ik it’s a meta-read and i could analyze mm a bit more, but mm has looked MUCH stronger recently. i support mike’s suggestion to check him tho.

i just realized something important about setup. Firebringer r u rly mario or just trolling?

[theoneceko]

i’m also ok w being checked tonight. i don’t want a possible evil daisy to have a 100% chance of killing mario tn. at this point, i’d rather be cleared than get mislynched.

[BananaCucho]

Quick reminder that EOD is today in just over 6 hours (the countdown clock is correct)

And that lunch is majority only

[theoneceko]

I'll join the train then. People who don't post are either scum or useless town Firebringer

this is my least fav vote on fire. i swear frost has been sheeping votes all game.

[Renegade]

I'm not voting Mario claim today.

[theoneceko]

hey guys.

I am mario.

You should probably stop. Or not.

bruh i was just gonna say don’t claim mario bc wario could exist. OH WELL GUESS WE’LL FIND OUT TONIGHT

[bakermir]

I'm not voting Mario claim today.

yeah me neither. i don't see gyr's logic here.


martin lynch is the correct way if we assume both FB and DM are tellin the truth

[bakermir]

yeah me neither. i don't see gyr's logic here.


martin lynch is the correct way if we assume both FB and DM are tellin the truth

there is still a chance Martin being green here but then we got cult and in that case I am not sure where to vote

[theoneceko]

Can we move off fire and back onto baker? Please fire and martin are now confirmed town so let’s stop trying to lynch town and lynch scum Baker.

Just type [vote]Bakermir[ /vote] it is that simple just take the space out. Let get a town win and move on to next game please.

ur tunneling exactly like u did as executioner in martin’s game.

should i move off baker and see what a mike vote does again??

[theoneceko]

theoneceko

we mindmeld on d1


lets do it again OwO!!!!!

i never srsly thought mike was 3P on day 1...

[MartinGG99]

I think he just gave us a picture of what was going on in his brain for real when Bakermir asked him to claim toad, because it's the only logical conclusion I can come to when I see he's using that to defend himself.

I still think your (failed) reaction testing at Ceko and all was bad and that your activity prior to my calling you out was not great, but as dumb as this may seem, this post outweights those suspicions. Congrats XD



Fine. I'll just call it TvT between us, and that we were disagreeing on key principles or perceptions.

Tbh I was partially scum-reading you because I felt like you weren't enticing the idea of me being town at all, but I guess this will suffice.

I rescind my possible future vote on you for today.

[MartinGG99]

bakermir (4 [L-3]):
Firebringer, Dark Magician, Mike, theoneceko

Huh, 2 (relatively) inactive players are voting bakermir.


Zone_Q11 has been hammered. Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Zone_Q11 ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/45656') (8 [L-0]): Mike ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898948'), FrostByte ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898949'), Bruno ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898531'), Kenny ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898946'), Renegade ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898969'), Gyrlander ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898937'), MartinGG99 ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898959'), bakermir ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898995')
Bruno ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/2166') (1 [L-7]): Zone_Q11 ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=897882')
MartinGG99 ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/21928') (1 [L-7]): Marshmallow Marshall ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898538')
Mike ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/27614') (1 [L-7]): theoneceko ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898583')
Gyrlander ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/11750') (1 [L-7]): Dark Magician ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898711')
Kenny ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/11836') (1 [L-7]): Firebringer ('https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=898472')

Neither DM or Firebringer were voting Bakermir on D1. Nor did they vote Zone or Bakermir on D1.

I wonder what's up with that (Oh and Bahkieh voted Marshmallow Marshall earlier, too).

Obviously some of the issues with bakermir have come up because of EoD1, which I am aware of.

Though I am curious as to why Dark Magician is voting bakermir then. Because the only difference between the time at EoD1 and D2 here are a few bakermir posts and the whole EoD1 event. In that situation, Dark Magician was refusing to vote Zone, and Bakermir held out to the end.

Meaning, bakermir probably had (or you could reasonably guess that) similar-ish thoughts as Dark Magician.

But suddenly because of that Bakermir is the most prominent suspect for DM? What happened with that Gyrlander vote on d1 as well?

Tinfoil: There's 1 scum in Firebringer/Dark Magician/Bahkieh

Dark Magician

[Mike]

ur tunneling exactly like u did as executioner in martin’s game.

should i move off baker and see what a mike vote does again??

Do an iso on me and him watch the interactions see how he was end of day. Then tell me this is just a tunnel. At EOD day 1 I was thinking he town Kenny was convened he was not town. So then how hard he tryed to pull off the votes off zone and was saying I was the best lynch over zone. Me and Kenny found each other. Wow Kenny dies in the night who does that benefit guess. Then when I put pressure on baker today his reactions where god awful. He then tryed to build a fake world where I was the evil checked by marieo and if you all don’t lynch me Game would end tonight. Now he is trying to look like he is evaluating the game.

Scum can not afford another lynch on them today.

There is no exe in this setup. If I am wrong then auto lynch me tomorrow. My point is simple just ISO me and him and judge for your selfs.

In that fame I also fake claimed a cop with a red check not a tunnel.

Town please use logic it will help you here. I can lead a horse to water but I can not make them drink.

But if you think I am the scum then vote me it is that simple. Baker jumped on fire quickly. He knew pressure was on him.

Baker needs to be today’s lynch in every world. No tunnel just facts.

[MartinGG99]

Meaning, bakermir probably had (or you could reasonably guess that) similar-ish thoughts as Dark Magician.


At least with regards to Zone

[theoneceko]

If town can not see how Baker is outed Mafia at this point PLease lynch me.

THUNDERDOME
BAKERMIRE
VERS
MIKE
PLACE YOUR VOTE FOR ONE OR THE OTHER TODAY
THUNDERDOME

yea i saw this coming LMAO

[Mike]

Huh, 2 (relatively) inactive players are voting bakermir.



Neither DM or Firebringer were voting Bakermir on D1. Nor did they vote Zone or Bakermir on D1.

I wonder what's up with that (Oh and Bahkieh voted Marshmallow Marshall earlier, too).

Obviously some of the issues with bakermir have come up because of EoD1, which I am aware of.

Though I am curious as to why Dark Magician is voting bakermir then. Because the only difference between the time at EoD1 and D2 here are a few bakermir posts and the whole EoD1 event. In that situation, Dark Magician was refusing to vote Zone, and Bakermir held out to the end.

Meaning, bakermir probably had (or you could reasonably guess that) similar-ish thoughts as Dark Magician.

But suddenly because of that Bakermir is the most prominent suspect for DM? What happened with that Gyrlander vote on d1 as well?

Tinfoil: There's 1 scum in Firebringer/Dark Magician/Bahkieh

Dark Magician

If you are town not evil daisy dude don’t vote DM he said he can confirm himself tonight. Fire is confirmed. Town Marieo he checked you and received town meaning you are eather confirmed town or evil Dasiy.

[Renegade]

Huh, 2 (relatively) inactive players are voting bakermir.



Neither DM or Firebringer were voting Bakermir on D1. Nor did they vote Zone or Bakermir on D1.

I wonder what's up with that (Oh and Bahkieh voted Marshmallow Marshall earlier, too).

Obviously some of the issues with bakermir have come up because of EoD1, which I am aware of.

Though I am curious as to why Dark Magician is voting bakermir then. Because the only difference between the time at EoD1 and D2 here are a few bakermir posts and the whole EoD1 event. In that situation, Dark Magician was refusing to vote Zone, and Bakermir held out to the end.

Meaning, bakermir probably had (or you could reasonably guess that) similar-ish thoughts as Dark Magician.

But suddenly because of that Bakermir is the most prominent suspect for DM? What happened with that Gyrlander vote on d1 as well?

Tinfoil: There's 1 scum in Firebringer/Dark Magician/Bahkieh

Dark Magician

Why are you voting DM who claims to confirm themselves tonight?

Why not FB or Banksy who have largely been afk?

NOT A FAN

[Mike]

MartinGG99

[MartinGG99]

Firebringer


im goin back to sleep. this is fair in my books. if not then I invite everyone to reconsider others in my wagon ^^


I can only ask another night for confirmation but I would prefer to see n3 if the game drags on..

Firebringer is a fair place to look at imo

But I would prefer Dark Magician if possible.

I've guessed what a !town DM would think about a Bakermir EOD, and I think if he's scum-reading you now then that must've meant that he was also scum-reading you for the EoD (which was one of the few important things that changed inbetween his last activity and his vote on you).

Fmpov a townie would not have a player skyrocket into the "I think I should vote them" scum-list just because the thoughts or actions were similar to theirs in EoD (Yes I know voting can have a significant impact but the differences between Bakermir and DM's responses at or near EoD were somewhat minimal in some aspects imo).


Also I'm not sure about scum being ballsy enough to fake-claim a check on someone right after they lost Bowser on D1.

So I have doubts about Firebringer being 100% scum.

[bakermir]

Why are you voting DM who claims to confirm themselves tonight?

Why not FB or Banksy who have largely been afk?

NOT A FAN

yea but FB claimed mario and DM claimed toad becoming TPR.

I claim TPR.

FB claims green check on Martin.


so we got a lot of associative reads here and if you guys wanna lynch anyone in this pool then it should be Martin since he is the only toad here. rest of us can prove ourselves tonight..

Or we can take a look at outside of this group.


i am not gonna mislead people anyway, make a choice people but don't be fuckin dumb and lynch your tpr's.. not FB not me, not DM

[MartinGG99]

I'll join the train then. People who don't post are either scum or useless town Firebringer

Preety much the main reason I would vote him, if it comes to that.

[theoneceko]

Do an iso on me and him watch the interactions see how he was end of day. Then tell me this is just a tunnel. At EOD day 1 I was thinking he town Kenny was convened he was not town. So then how hard he tryed to pull off the votes off zone and was saying I was the best lynch over zone. Me and Kenny found each other. Wow Kenny dies in the night who does that benefit guess. Then when I put pressure on baker today his reactions where god awful. He then tryed to build a fake world where I was the evil checked by marieo and if you all don’t lynch me Game would end tonight. Now he is trying to look like he is evaluating the game.

Scum can not afford another lynch on them today.

There is no exe in this setup. If I am wrong then auto lynch me tomorrow. My point is simple just ISO me and him and judge for your selfs.

In that fame I also fake claimed a cop with a red check not a tunnel.

Town please use logic it will help you here. I can lead a horse to water but I can not make them drink.

But if you think I am the scum then vote me it is that simple. Baker jumped on fire quickly. He knew pressure was on him.

Baker needs to be today’s lynch in every world. No tunnel just facts.

did not realize that
did not realize that
it benefits frost and bake (both r scumpainting me) and hurts you and me.

[bakermir]

Firebringer is a fair place to look at imo

But I would prefer Dark Magician if possible.

I've guessed what a !town DM would think about a Bakermir EOD, and I think if he's scum-reading you now then that must've meant that he was also scum-reading you for the EoD (which was one of the few important things that changed inbetween his last activity and his vote on you).

Fmpov a townie would not have a player skyrocket into the "I think I should vote them" scum-list just because the thoughts or actions were similar to theirs in EoD (Yes I know voting can have a significant impact but the differences between Bakermir and DM's responses at or near EoD were somewhat minimal in some aspects imo).


Also I'm not sure about scum being ballsy enough to fake-claim a check on someone right after they lost Bowser on D1.

So I have doubts about Firebringer being 100% scum.


what bothers me is that FB claiming Mario then not checking me ;/

he claims to suspected you after voting kenny and kennys flip.

If he green cleared you then why isn't he voting gyrlander here instead of me.


This is why I voted FB earlier because I really don't think DM/FB are telling the truth but if they are telling the truth then we can probably afford giving them another night unless Daisy can end the game tonight in which I am not sure how that works

[theoneceko]

Why are you voting DM who claims to confirm themselves tonight?

Why not FB or Banksy who have largely been afk?

NOT A FAN

GOOFY!!!!

[MartinGG99]

hey guys.

I am mario.

You should probably stop. Or not.


i got nothing to prove especially to u


i didn't check u. i checked martin. I was faking an initial claim on u to see reactions.


and as for "why did u check martin" he ws second to last to vote. Which is normally where i see bussing votes. I didn't even bother reading his posts. Tht was all my basis was for thinking he coul be scum so i checked him.

It is high level iq play


town. Otherwie i would be voting him. Come on Mike.


i had an interview, went to a party, and regular work stuff. Life was busy last few days.

I don't think people can find this scummy tbh.

And like I said before, I don't think scum would be ballsy enough to directly claim Mario. I mean, they can get CC'ed with that shit and then suddenly by EoD2 or EoD3 they're down to 1 koopa (or 2 if banana is fucking with us on the Any slots)

[MartinGG99]

DM never actually claimed their role, just said they were Toad and got a new card.

Exactly.

Its harder to CC that, and a more comfortable path for a scum fake-claim since some Toads stay as Toad.

[theoneceko]

just remember, town lost two games ago bc scum!frinckles fucked us all mechanically (he counter-claimed the town investigative). iow, don’t trust dm and fb 100%.

this thread is a literal clusterfuck rn so i will re-read before deciding what to do next.

[MartinGG99]

Un-CCed Mario should probably not get lynched

This.

If a different real Mario existed they would've CC'ed that shit and bam suddenly we got 1 less koopa/scum to worry about.

Especially since we already took care of Bowser.

[MartinGG99]

2. Wario shoots a player who is not Mario (why the fuck would Wario random shoot D1)

I find 2. very hard to believe so we only have 2 chances that Mario is still Town Mario. And if it's 3. then there is a big chance Mario will be dead by tomorrow. And if it's 1. then Martin is Evil Daisy (if we're to believe Firebringer).

Tbh if I was Wario I would random-shoot d1, if you're going to become Arsonist its better to do it sooner rather than later imo. Especially if the douse gives feedback.

Also burning role-cards to ash sounds fun.

[MartinGG99]

am I understanding this wrong or what


Daisy wins the game once Firebringer dies.

isn't that game over for everyone?

Luigi would have to die too.

Role descriptions imply that its possible to have Mario + Luigi in a single game.

[MartinGG99]

6. Are you following now. We do not know if Mario checked daisy or not but it will make sense for DM who is uncontested as been transformed from Toad. Unless DM is Neutral who was transformed and Kenny would have been the transformed Toad. .

In the OOO, the stuff that trigger the alignment changes and role changes happen all after the kills (if I'm not mistaken).

So
1. Kenny was going to flip Toad anyways
2. There's a role-card for "Toad" only so its possible that there are toads out there that are going to be toads for the whole game regardless of alignment changes.

[MartinGG99]

If town can not see how Baker is outed Mafia at this point PLease lynch me.

THUNDERDOME
BAKERMIRE
VERS
MIKE
PLACE YOUR VOTE FOR ONE OR THE OTHER TODAY
THUNDERDOME

Mike's crying thunder-dome again, like he has in past games.

I don't believe in the 1 scum in Mike/Baker theory, and if there were it's prob mike atm.

[theoneceko]

BananaCucho wdym by “max of 1 unique role possible”?

[theoneceko]

once i get on my laptop, i’ll tunnel the fuck out of bake. quoting posts is so fucking hard on mobile lol.

[MartinGG99]

What if DM's role change was a lie? Did anyone else got their rolecard changed?

I never claimed against DM initially, despite being toad. Because its quite possible I was given a Toad role-card, instead of secret card like Geno.

To think there and imagine will never be a simple "Toad" card in the game (that doesn't get a role-change ever).

Is to imply and assert that that the whole MUSHROOM KINGOM

Is 100% TPR (or secretly TPR just not known yet)

In that case, then 2 things:

1. We 100% should eliminate in the TPR claims and Toad claims indiscriminately, or maybe even value Toad claims more
2. For balancing purposes, I would imagine there definitely is a 4th koopa at least.

[BananaCucho]

@BananaCucho (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=10111) wdym by “max of 1 unique role possible”?


Unique roles (max of 1 possible)"Max of 1 possible" is meant to clarify what I mean by "Unique roles", meaning that if your role is Mario, nobody else can have that role

All unique roles can be in the game, there isn't a limit of 1, if there was Mario would be the only unique role possible as Mario is confirmed to be in the game (and there wouldn't be a point of creating the other roles in the setup lol)

[MartinGG99]

yeah me neither. i don't see gyr's logic here.


martin lynch is the correct way if we assume both FB and DM are tellin the truth

Fair enough.

But I've made a few points recently as to how DM could be scummy by voting you out of (what I imagine to be) no-where tbh

[theoneceko]

But actually,
Baker

U NEED TO TYPE HIS NAME EXACTLY FOR THE VOTE TO COUNT

Dark Magician

[MartinGG99]

If you are town not evil daisy dude don’t vote DM he said he can confirm himself tonight. Fire is confirmed. Town Marieo he checked you and received town meaning you are eather confirmed town or evil Dasiy.

I don't believe him.

As bakermir said, if what DM said is true, then I'm more <rand scum than <rand town.

But all of that is possible bullshit because I just proved to MM earlier that I am town :toad:.

Unless a Wario shot occurred or Firebringer actually checked the real daisy (of whom Idk), then I see no way to get past this issue.

[MartinGG99]

I don't believe him.

As bakermir said, if what DM said is true, then I'm more <rand scum than <rand town.

But all of that is possible bullshit because I just proved to MM earlier that I am town :toad:.

Unless a Wario shot occurred or Firebringer actually checked the real daisy (of whom Idk), then I see no way to get past this issue.

Presuming there is even a Princess Daisy in the game, btw.

[MartinGG99]

Oh wait nvm



If Mario checks you, you become Evil Princess Daisy. Mario receives a Mushroom Kingdom check on you the night that this happens.


So basically the only way DM and I are town is if a Wario shot occurred on N1, right?

[MartinGG99]

what bothers me is that FB claiming Mario then not checking me ;/

he claims to suspected you after voting kenny and kennys flip.

If he green cleared you then why isn't he voting gyrlander here instead of me.


This is why I voted FB earlier because I really don't think DM/FB are telling the truth but if they are telling the truth then we can probably afford giving them another night unless Daisy can end the game tonight in which I am not sure how that works

Tbh I never imagined checking you if I were Mario. I kinda have to assume there's a possibility Mario thought the same. GTH I actually would've checked one of the lower-activity players to make up for the lack of AI content that comes with a lack of posting.

Could you explain this to me more please

[theoneceko]

Oh wait nvm



So basically the only way DM and I are town is if a Wario shot occurred on N1, right?

just stop wifom’ing about the setup pls. we can do this tomorrow. ZERO CHANCE we’ll figure out the setup by today.

EVERYONE STOP WIFOM’ING FIRE, DM, AND THE SETUP.

[bakermir]

I never claimed against DM initially, despite being toad. Because its quite possible I was given a Toad role-card, instead of secret card like Geno.

To think there and imagine will never be a simple "Toad" card in the game (that doesn't get a role-change ever).

Is to imply and assert that that the whole MUSHROOM KINGOM

Is 100% TPR (or secretly TPR just not known yet)

In that case, then 2 things:

1. We 100% should eliminate in the TPR claims and Toad claims indiscriminately, or maybe even value Toad claims more
2. For balancing purposes, I would imagine there definitely is a 4th koopa at least.

It could be 4 koopas or it could be 2 neutrals. We don't know yet.


However, I claimed tpr eod 1 and I stand behind my claim. If the current votes doesn't change then town is about to lose 1 tpr.

FB is the only person that claimed Mario.

DM claimed he is the unique toad TPR.


If we don't have anymore TPR's then I don't see any problem as to why Mario+Unique(Toad)+1 TPR to exists in town roster.


It could be wario or it could be FB visiting you, we don't know any of it.


WHat bothers me the most is that Mike and Ceko seem to be ok with FB/DM claims while they don't give me a chance tonight. In what world do we vote out TPR claims on D1 D2?


Especially we got Mario that can check and confirm me both N1 and N2 or I can actually prove myself.


In general, people are lost here and voting out TPR claims is the worst thing to do

[bakermir]

just stop wifom’ing about the setup pls. we can do this tomorrow. ZERO CHANCE we’ll figure out the setup by today.

EVERYONE STOP WIFOM’ING FIRE, DM, AND THE SETUP.

then take your vote off me if you are truly town

[theoneceko]

Dark Magician COME BACK AND VOTE BAKE PROPERLY!!!

[MartinGG99]

just stop wifom’ing about the setup pls. we can do this tomorrow. ZERO CHANCE we’ll figure out the setup by today.

Well then ASIDE from DM's claim I have made a point about him voting Bakermir for basically no reason.

His vote on Gyrlander for D1 stayed the whole time, meaning what happened at EoD1 and early D2 should have been what changed DM's mind to vote Bakermir.

But the EoD1 was fairly similar for both Bakermir and DM in some aspects, namely the hesitancy or unwillingness to vote Zone.

I don't think that if I were town, as DM, I would just vote Bakermir here.

[bakermir]

Dark Magician COME BACK AND VOTE BAKE PROPERLY!!!

ceko?

[FrostByte]

ur either scum, neut, or tpr as mike said. if ur tpr, u rly aren’t helping town w these kinds of posts.

Why did you change your avatar? It's a female now. Was that just because of the convo with whoever it was about how that influences perception? Or are you soft claiming a female named role?

[MartinGG99]

DM claimed he is the unique toad TPR.


He also claimed this:


Dry Bones
You receive the "Toad" role card initially
If any player changes alignment or a Koopa dies, you receive your true rolecard of Dry Bones.
If you die before this happens, you will show up as Toad in the graveyard
You can protect one player at night. You are still aligned with the Mushroom Kingdom
You can also change your Alignment to Koopa at any time.




-thought I’d make this role for shits and giggles.
I’ll Claim this as my role because lol.

Secondly,

Its not impossible to have multiple unique toads;

What I mean by that is that its not possible to have 2 Genos

But it is possible to have, say, Geno + Yoshi.

[FrostByte]

i’m not lying about my scumread of u. you, bake, and mm r all good lynches today. although i fear at this point mm will be a mislynch. it’s funny how others townread mm now, but ur ONLY calling me out for defending him. ur playing poorly rn.

Playing poorly from the perspective of someone who floundered that horrible tunnel. I'm not really that worried tbh. That shit was so weak.

[MartinGG99]

But it is possible to have, say, Geno + Yoshi.

Both of which that start out as Toad.

[FrostByte]

game is most probably ending tonight if we don't lynch mike, wake the fuck up

You're fucking kidding, right? Town is in a great position. Unless you're arguing in favor of scum?

[FrostByte]

marieo

M A R I O. Mario. It's spelled M-A-R-I-O.

[MartinGG99]

You're fucking kidding, right? Town is in a great position. Unless you're arguing in favor of scum?

He's being paranoid of a Daisy win just because Bowser died.

But it requires Luigi + Mario + Bowser dying all together;

It shouldn't be possible to solo win it as Daisy if Luigi isn't even in the game to die.



Princess Daisy: Survive until the end of the game, or until Mario, Luigi and Bowser have all died


Is it technically right that Daisy can't have a sudden solo win if Luigi isn't even the game/round (and therefore isn't capable of dying?)

BananaCucho

[FrostByte]

this is my least fav vote on fire. i swear frost has been sheeping votes all game.

Of course it is. You've been tunneling me since d2 start.

You're so boring.

[MartinGG99]

Is it technically right that Daisy can't have a sudden solo win if Luigi isn't even in the game/round (and therefore isn't capable of dying?)


edit by way of post

[bakermir]

anyways just gonna leave this here regarding theoneceko


#147 > i am trying to solve slots

#160 > this is one of the posts where i suspect ceko TMI

#168 > half rvs/half suspicion (this is in no way a scumpaint)

#250 > first ever response of ceko to me and it is just scumpainting. ever since then ceko is just actively scumpainting me and IDK what else to tell you all




now I am being voted by mike/ceko both players have been tunneling me since d1 even though I claim TPR and expected scum visit on n1 but sadly they didn't.


if we don't find someone then town loses a TPR today to the votes. maybe then you guys will realize what kind of a horrible mistake ceko and mike are doing right now ;/


FB is confusing me a lot too, he could simply visit me on n1 or n2 but they don't want to?


this is ridiculous and if any of these players are town then they are gamethrowing lmao

[bakermir]

anyways just gonna leave this here regarding theoneceko


#147 > i am trying to solve slots

#160 > this is one of the posts where i suspect ceko TMI

#168 > half rvs/half suspicion (this is in no way a scumpaint)

#250 > first ever response of ceko to me and it is just scumpainting. ever since then ceko is just actively scumpainting me and IDK what else to tell you all




now I am being voted by mike/ceko both players have been tunneling me since d1 even though I claim TPR and expected scum visit on n1 but sadly they didn't.


if we don't find someone then town loses a TPR today to the votes. maybe then you guys will realize what kind of a horrible mistake ceko and mike are doing right now ;/


FB is confusing me a lot too, he could simply visit me on n1 or n2 but they don't want to?


this is ridiculous and if any of these players are town then they are gamethrowing lmao



@Renegade (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=30852)
@Firebringer (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=15644)
@Dark Magician (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45531)
@Bahkieh (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=4042)
@Whysper (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45647)
@Mike (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=27614)
@MartinGG99 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=21928)
@Marshmallow Marshall (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=29377)
@FrostByte (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=3805)
@Gyrlander (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=11750)
@Bruno (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=2166)
@Kenny (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=11836)
@theoneceko (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=39849)
@bakermir (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45327)
@Zone_Q11 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45656)

[MartinGG99]

@Renegade (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=30852)
@Firebringer (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=15644)
@Dark Magician (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45531)
@Bahkieh (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=4042)
@Whysper (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45647)
@Mike (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=27614)
@MartinGG99 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=21928)
@Marshmallow Marshall (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=29377)
@FrostByte (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=3805)
@Gyrlander (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=11750)
@Bruno (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=2166)
@Kenny (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=11836)
@theoneceko (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=39849)
@bakermir (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45327)
@Zone_Q11 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45656)



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[bakermir]

few hours left

[MartinGG99]

anyways just gonna leave this here regarding theoneceko

#147 > i am trying to solve slots

#160 > this is one of the posts where i suspect ceko TMI

#168 > half rvs/half suspicion (this is in no way a scumpaint)

#250 > first ever response of ceko to me and it is just scumpainting. ever since then ceko is just actively scumpainting me and IDK what else to tell you all

now I am being voted by mike/ceko both players have been tunneling me since d1 even though I claim TPR and expected scum visit on n1 but sadly they didn't.

if we don't find someone then town loses a TPR today to the votes. maybe then you guys will realize what kind of a horrible mistake ceko and mike are doing right now ;/

I'll consider a ceko tinfoil in the future

Not today though.

[FrostByte]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/89f4951358bde162136a602a2a1236c2/tenor.gif

lmfao

[MartinGG99]

I'll consider a ceko tinfoil in the future

Not today though.

Unless he turns up as an option to eliminate out of everyone else.

(If FB or Bakermir turn up as the options to eliminate I'm not voting them, not even at L-1.)

[bakermir]

I'll consider a ceko tinfoil in the future

Not today though.

I don't mean today but seriously if I am voted out today then make sure to get ceko/martin because this is literally gamethrowing as town


also it is Majority votes

[FrostByte]

I'll consider a ceko tinfoil in the future

Not today though.

I can't decide whether Ceko is scummy to me because he's getting on my nerves or if he's just scummy in general.

[bakermir]

I don't mean today but seriously if I am voted out today then make sure to get ceko/martin because this is literally gamethrowing as town


also it is Majority votes

ceko/mike*

i am just pissed overall, sorry

[FrostByte]

I don't mean today but seriously if I am voted out today then make sure to get ceko/martin because this is literally gamethrowing as town


also it is Majority votes
So if town lynches you, then you want town to lynch more town? But you just criticized ceko and martin for doing that same thing?

Do you actually want town to win or no?

[FrostByte]

ceko/mike*

i am just pissed overall, sorry

Fair enough

[FrostByte]

tbh I would vote Baker because they've seemed slightly scummy since d1 but that would make ceko happy and ceko is a little shit so fuck that

[MartinGG99]

ceko/mike*

i am just pissed overall, sorry

Nah its fine, I understand that.

I honestly would be somewhat okay with a no-elimination for today.

If some of your concerns are real then one of our TPRs will 100% die tonight. For me, that means 1 of bakermir/FB/Dark Magician (assuming DM's claim is real).

And perhaps that'll move things depending on who dies, or convince me of something else.

[MartinGG99]

Nah its fine, I understand that.

I honestly would be somewhat okay with a no-elimination for today.

If some of your concerns are real then one of our TPRs will 100% die tonight. For me, that means 1 of bakermir/FB/Dark Magician (assuming DM's claim is real).

And perhaps that'll move things depending on who dies, or convince me of something else.

And if Mike's thunder-dome comes to fruition then I am 100% voting him over you.

[bakermir]

You're fucking kidding, right? Town is in a great position. Unless you're arguing in favor of scum?

i kinda panicked there because of Daisy role card description.

idk why am I left alone here on stove top. i don't know what any of FB ceko or martin are up to but thanks to me being a bloody naked town we got a lot of info.


i will just go take a walk a bit and let you guys figure this out. i am just really disappointed at the gamestate RN when it comes to ceko and mike tunneling me like mad ever since the beginning...

[FrostByte]

Really it was the TOWN LOSE before hammering Zone that made Bake seem scummy

but they did hammer zone when they could've just left it be, like DM did.

so idk

[FrostByte]

i kinda panicked there because of Daisy role card description.

idk why am I left alone here on stove top. i don't know what any of FB ceko or martin are up to but thanks to me being a bloody naked town we got a lot of info.


i will just go take a walk a bit and let you guys figure this out. i am just really disappointed at the gamestate RN when it comes to ceko and mike tunneling me like mad ever since the beginning...

You're good. Ceko is being a little shit. Mike is... mike. He's goofy af. tbh I don't trust Mike's reads, he flip-flops too quickly.

Take a walk, feel better.

[FrostByte]

We might need you to hammer scum EoD though lol

[BananaCucho]

He's being paranoid of a Daisy win just because Bowser died.

But it requires Luigi + Mario + Bowser dying all together;

It shouldn't be possible to solo win it as Daisy if Luigi isn't even in the game to die.



Is it technically right that Daisy can't have a sudden solo win if Luigi isn't even the game/round (and therefore isn't capable of dying?)

BananaCucho

A Daisy win is not a solo win and doesn't end the game. Think of this victory akin to an exe type victory - Daisy can win and the game would continue

Now that that's out of the way I'll clarify Daisy's win condition. If no alive players have the role "Mario", "Luigi" or "Bowser", and Daisy is still ALIVE and still neutral without being converted, Daisy wins. Daisy can then die thereafter but still log a win.

[MartinGG99]

A Daisy win is not a solo win and doesn't end the game. Think of this victory akin to an exe type victory - Daisy can win and the game would continue

Now that that's out of the way I'll clarify Daisy's win condition. If no alive players have the role "Mario", "Luigi" or "Bowser", and Daisy is still ALIVE and still neutral without being converted, Daisy wins. Daisy can then die thereafter but still log a win.

So daisy can just drink hemlock after seeing a game go through so much shit to attain the circumstances where none of Mario, Luigi, or Bowser are alive?

Dayum. Sounds like some fucked up romantic drama comedy.

[Firebringer]

ik it’s a meta-read and i could analyze mm a bit more, but mm has looked MUCH stronger recently. i support mike’s suggestion to check him tho.

i just realized something important about setup. Firebringer r u rly mario or just trolling?

i am not trolling

[Firebringer]

yeah me neither. i don't see gyr's logic here.


martin lynch is the correct way if we assume both FB and DM are tellin the truth

thaat doesn't make sense. Martin is town

[Firebringer]

chinese fire drill wagon now:
Bahkieh

Lets go people we only got few hours

[Firebringer]

i really dot think this will flip scum but we gotta do somehitng people

[theoneceko]

thaat doesn't make sense. Martin is town

nooooo since bake is scumreading martin (either bc of obtuse setup speculation or genuine misdirection as scum), can u pls vote bake?? bahk is not getting lynched today. unless bake makes a push for bahk ._.

[Firebringer]

i want to lynch baker but that wagon has stalled.

[MartinGG99]

chinese fire drill wagon now:
Bahkieh

Lets go people we only got few hours

I guess if a DM, Mike, or Ceko (but only if he's the sole possilbility) elimination isn't happening then...

:sheep:

Bahkieh

[theoneceko]

nooooo since bake is scumreading martin (either bc of obtuse setup speculation or genuine misdirection as scum), can u pls vote bake?? bahk is not getting lynched today. unless bake makes a push for bahk ._.

or both

[theoneceko]

i want to lynch baker but that wagon has stalled.

i’ll convince everyone to vote bake once i come home. at least try my best to.

if dm logs back on before eod, that puts bake at l-2. then u can make it l-1.

[FrostByte]

[QUOTE=theoneceko;900020 bahk is not getting lynched today. unless bake makes a push for bahk ._.[/QUOTE]

They have the same number of votes. You're being manipulative as fuck right now.

[FrostByte]

i’ll convince everyone to vote bake once i come home. at least try my best to.

if dm logs back on before eod, that puts bake at l-2. then u can make it l-1.

Baker is l-5 right now

[FrostByte]

Baker is l-5 right now

OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT YOU MADE A MISTAKE SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM

[theoneceko]

i can’t believe ppl switched from bake to bahk lol.

[FrostByte]

See how fucking stupid that is?

[theoneceko]

OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT YOU MADE A MISTAKE SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM

there’s a difference between saying ur “calculated and quick” but making basic mistakes about setup and not knowing current vote state bc we’re in eod and ppl switched wagons.

[MartinGG99]

nooooo since bake is scumreading martin (either bc of obtuse setup speculation or genuine misdirection as scum), can u pls vote bake??

He isn't scum-reading me lol.

He just said I was the optimal elimination.

[theoneceko]

bahk is a terrible lynch. i’m literally just meta-reading him, but he coasts like this as town. and he’d probably agree if i said he’s incapable of changing his meta.

[MartinGG99]

He isn't scum-reading me lol.

He just said I was the optimal elimination.

If DM + FB are both town then I should be the one eliminated as he said iirc.

[MartinGG99]

bahk is a terrible lynch. i’m literally just meta-reading him, but he coasts like this as town. and he’d probably agree if i said he’s incapable of changing his meta.

He'll also coast like that as scum?

Either way if the AI stuff is SO LITTLE that you have to M E T A read him then its prob best to let him go from this game anyways.

[MartinGG99]

He'll also coast like that as scum?

Either way if the AI stuff is SO LITTLE that you have to M E T A read him then its prob best to let him go from this game anyways.

Like FrostByte said, people can manually control their meta if they want.

As soon as I did a game mostly for-funsies quite a large number of players brought that game up even though I wasn't being super serious in it.

Like, I almost accidentally changed people's meta reads of me for the future lol.

[MartinGG99]

Like, I almost accidentally changed people's meta reads of me for the future lol.

Even though I WAS SPECIFICALLY STATING AGAINST THAT.

[theoneceko]

He'll also coast like that as scum?

Either way if the AI stuff is SO LITTLE that you have to M E T A read him then its prob best to let him go from this game anyways.

he can be checked. not tonight but maybe nights 3, 4 etc.

[FrostByte]

there’s a difference between saying ur “calculated and quick” but making basic mistakes about setup and not knowing current vote state bc we’re in eod and ppl switched wagons.

So your answer is "No, I don't see how fucking stupid that is."

[FrostByte]

there’s a difference between saying ur “calculated and quick” but making basic mistakes about setup and not knowing current vote state bc we’re in eod and ppl switched wagons.

And your pea sized brain didn't consider that mistakes might be planted to get slow witted individuals to latch onto them?

You were tunneling me already. Might as well give you the stupid ammo you needed to do the stupid thing you were obviously going to stupid do. I did the exact same thing to Reniggerade at the beginning of d1. Go read.

It's called

bait

[BananaCucho]

Just over 2 hours left til EOD

[FrostByte]

And your pea sized brain didn't consider that mistakes might be planted to get slow witted individuals to latch onto them?

You were tunneling me already. Might as well give you the stupid ammo you needed to do the stupid thing you were obviously going to stupid do. I did the exact same thing to Reniggerade at the beginning of d2. Go read.

It's called

bait

fixed

[Bahkieh]

Yeah I'm coasting. I don't try to over analyze people's day 1 posts because 95% is filler garbage anyways. Also, I've already given a hint towards my role.

[FrostByte]

Except that fake rolecard actually fucked me up. I didn't expect someone to make a fake rolecard because why the fuck would you make a fake rolecard

[FrostByte]

Yeah I'm coasting. I don't try to over analyze people's day 1 posts because 95% is filler garbage anyways. Also, I've already given a hint towards my role.

It's d2 though

[Bahkieh]

It's d2 though

Thank you captain obvious. I hadn't noticed

[Bahkieh]

Anyways, yeah I coast the early game and then actually talk a bit more once I start actually having opinions on people.

[MartinGG99]

he can be checked. not tonight but maybe nights 3, 4 etc.

Tbh I wasn't expecting a nothing statement like that

everyone can be checked

and theoretically speaking if I were daisy then all FB, if he is Mario, has to do is just check me a 2nd time and then it'll show my true alignment:



If Mario checks you, you become Evil Princess Daisy. Mario receives a Mushroom Kingdom check on you the night that this happens.


But I'm fairly sure there's a decent amount of evidence that I'm not Daisy.

[theoneceko]

only thing that gives me pause on bake's lynch is that bake hasn't claimed which power role he is. this makes me ._. bc he technically bought himself a "no-lynch" pass for today.

if we're going to lynch among lurkers, i suggest gyr or whysper. bahk is literal LHF rn. i will never vote bahk.

[FrostByte]

Thank you captain obvious. I hadn't noticed

ok but you implied that you hadn't posted because d1 posting is useless... it's d2 so your post was pointless and misleading then.

[theoneceko]

Firebringer


Firebringer


im goin back to sleep. this is fair in my books. if not then I invite everyone to reconsider others in my wagon ^^


I can only ask another night for confirmation but I would prefer to see n3 if the game drags on..

bruno votes fire. bake immediately votes fire right after.

bake posts significantly more before actually logging off.

[MartinGG99]

Actually I'm fairly sure that Daisy isn't in this game at all:



If Bowser tries to kill you, you become Princess Daisy


The koopas have to night-kill twice or just use Boo (if they have it) on her.

The alternative is to not attack her at all, in which case, she can just win by surviving to the end by town-siding:



Princess Daisy: Survive until the end of the game, or until Mario, Luigi and Bowser have all died


IMO if I were daisy I would hard insta-claim on day 1 with declared town-siding.

Both of the non-bowser roles that can convert her are town roles, so they would have less of a reason to check a hard-claim Daisy unless they either seriously thought it was a fake claim or they're just out-right throwing.

[FrostByte]

bruno votes fire. bake immediately votes fire right after.

bake posts significantly more before actually logging off.

it's almost like people trust Bruno's reads or something. How odd.

Oh wait, anyone who read d1 understands this.

You're tunneling so hard that you're ruining any shred of credibility you had. Do you know this?

[FrostByte]

IMO if I were daisy I would hard insta-claim on day 1 with declared town-siding.

Both of the non-bowser roles that can convert her are town roles, so they would have less of a reason to check a hard-claim Daisy unless they either seriously thought it was a fake claim or they're just out-right throwing.

That would be so boring though. If I were neut I'd probably wait until I saw one side winning and join that side. More fun that way.

[MartinGG99]

bruno votes fire. bake immediately votes fire right after.

bake posts significantly more before actually logging off.

That's before FB hard-claimed Mario (even though he hinted it earlier).

And that's bullshit. There's about a 6-hour gap between that message and when he comes back.

From my time zone that was from 11-ish PM. He doesn't come back till 5-ish AM in the morning.

[MartinGG99]

Firebringer


im goin back to sleep. this is fair in my books. if not then I invite everyone to reconsider others in my wagon ^^


I can only ask another night for confirmation but I would prefer to see n3 if the game drags on..


reminder: LAST WILLS ARE ALLOWED


i would fuck with you but i live on a different planet

See?

6-ish hour gap. He did go to sleep.....just for a short-ish time lol

[Bahkieh]

ok but you implied that you hadn't posted because d1 posting is useless... it's d2 so your post was pointless and misleading then.

Most posts in the game are pointless. Misleading, meh not really. Take it how you want

[MartinGG99]

Firebringer (2 [L-5]):
Bruno, FrostByte
Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-6]):
Bahkieh
Bahkieh (3 [L-4]):
Firebringer, Marshmallow Marshall, MartinGG99
bakermir (2 [L-5]):
Mike, theoneceko

[Mike]

I don't believe him.

As bakermir said, if what DM said is true, then I'm more <rand scum than <rand town.

But all of that is possible bullshit because I just proved to MM earlier that I am town :toad:.

Unless a Wario shot occurred or Firebringer actually checked the real daisy (of whom Idk), then I see no way to get past this issue.

From your PoV You would know if he checked the real daisy or not. Because He checked you and you should know your role.

So If you started out as Dasy you are now Evil Dasy It is that simple. If you are not Dasiy then you are confirmed town. but what sucks about this setup is all the Pr roles Dont confirm crap.

The Pr roles cause more confusion. We Do not know if there is only 1 Neutral or 3. we dont know if there is only 3 mafia or 4 Doubt there would be 5 or 6.

We can really only go on players actions. This is why my vote is on baker.

[theoneceko]

FireBringer is Mario or Convert.
Fire who did you target last night?
Prob confirmed Daisy.
this is where the wifom hell starts. at least bake didn't START this, but later on he blew the wifom out of proportion.


Princess Daisy
If Mario checks you, you become Evil Princess Daisy. Mario receives a Mushroom Kingdom check on you the night that this happens.
If Luigi checks you, you become Lovebird Princess Daisy
If Bowser tries to kill you, you become Princess Daisy
If Mario, Luigi, and Bowser all die before you are converted, you automatically win the game


Mike


keep channeling your inner karen mike but we can't let you live anymore


game is most probably ending tonight if we don't lynch mike, wake the fuck up

QQ all you want karen

you are caught and in every possible scenario you are the right elimination today
bake tunnels mike here, but he backs off quickly and starts wifom'ing dm, fire, and the setup. then, he votes martin and unvotes. bake doesn't have a vote on anyone rn.


wait, who the fuck said bowser flip makes toad get a new role and where the fuck is neutral doctor role card?


literally reading the setup again, wtf
why are u bringing this up now???


What if DM's role change was a lie? Did anyone else got their rolecard changed?


If DM is telling the truth and if FB is telling the truth then there is a chance both FB and DM being green and Martin being orange.

If one in DM/FB lying then the whole conversion story is out of the window but luckily we now have associative reads here now and can lynch the liars next day.


Assuming FB claimed their green check on Martin SoD2 to be the truth then we shouldn't be lynching FB before Martin. Martin could be Green/Orange/Pink here and FB could be Green/Pink.




ok so Gyrlander why are we exactly lynching Mario claim here? I am still lost on this.


also, we could very well have the cult now but we can only find that out tomorrow after we flip Martin today and see if FB is still green or not and if we have cult.


This all requires us to trust DM and I don't know if we should. He made me think he is neutral doc all this time somehow lmao, I need to focus....
blowing wifom out of proportion. we rly don't need this so close to eod, ur just throwing town into a panic.


yea but FB claimed mario and DM claimed toad becoming TPR.

I claim TPR.

FB claims green check on Martin.


so we got a lot of associative reads here and if you guys wanna lynch anyone in this pool then it should be Martin since he is the only toad here. rest of us can prove ourselves tonight..

Or we can take a look at outside of this group.


i am not gonna mislead people anyway, make a choice people but don't be fuckin dumb and lynch your tpr's.. not FB not me, not DM

why didn't u prove urself today? why did u leave without claiming ur specific role? very few power roles can confirm themselves. some town roles overlap with mafia roles. did u make this statement with that knowledge in mind??
ur misleading here.
u just misled ppl then claim u aren't doing it... ugh, the audacity!


what bothers me is that FB claiming Mario then not checking me ;/

he claims to suspected you after voting kenny and kennys flip.

If he green cleared you then why isn't he voting gyrlander here instead of me.


This is why I voted FB earlier because I really don't think DM/FB are telling the truth but if they are telling the truth then we can probably afford giving them another night unless Daisy can end the game tonight in which I am not sure how that works

It could be 4 koopas or it could be 2 neutrals. We don't know yet.


However, I claimed tpr eod 1 and I stand behind my claim. If the current votes doesn't change then town is about to lose 1 tpr.

FB is the only person that claimed Mario.

DM claimed he is the unique toad TPR.


If we don't have anymore TPR's then I don't see any problem as to why Mario+Unique(Toad)+1 TPR to exists in town roster.


It could be wario or it could be FB visiting you, we don't know any of it.


WHat bothers me the most is that Mike and Ceko seem to be ok with FB/DM claims while they don't give me a chance tonight. In what world do we vote out TPR claims on D1 D2?


Especially we got Mario that can check and confirm me both N1 and N2 or I can actually prove myself.


In general, people are lost here and voting out TPR claims is the worst thing to do
blowing wifom out of proportion.


then take your vote off me if you are truly town
why would i listen to my top scumread???


anyways just gonna leave this here regarding theoneceko


#147 > i am trying to solve slots

#160 > this is one of the posts where i suspect ceko TMI

#168 > half rvs/half suspicion (this is in no way a scumpaint)

#250 > first ever response of ceko to me and it is just scumpainting. ever since then ceko is just actively scumpainting me and IDK what else to tell you all




now I am being voted by mike/ceko both players have been tunneling me since d1 even though I claim TPR and expected scum visit on n1 but sadly they didn't.


if we don't find someone then town loses a TPR today to the votes. maybe then you guys will realize what kind of a horrible mistake ceko and mike are doing right now ;/


FB is confusing me a lot too, he could simply visit me on n1 or n2 but they don't want to?


this is ridiculous and if any of these players are town then they are gamethrowing lmao
u said a few pages ago that last wills exist for a reason:

reminder: LAST WILLS ARE ALLOWED

why would u include this in eod? it's absolutely anti-town to even consider throwing this bone out for town to munch on.


@Renegade (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=30852)
@Firebringer (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=15644)
@Dark Magician (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45531)
@Bahkieh (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=4042)
@Whysper (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45647)
@Mike (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=27614)
@MartinGG99 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=21928)
@Marshmallow Marshall (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=29377)
@FrostByte (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=3805)
@Gyrlander (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=11750)
@Bruno (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=2166)
@Kenny (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=11836)
@theoneceko (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=39849)
@bakermir (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45327)
@Zone_Q11 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45656)
this was in response to his wall on me. WHAT ARE THESE PINGS?!? pinging everyone is the most direct way of influencing discussion, and ur doing it here to mislead people.


few hours left
oh, u know it's only a few hours left. it's why u threw out so many bones before u left!

[Mike]

You're fucking kidding, right? Town is in a great position. Unless you're arguing in favor of scum?

He was trying to get votes off of him he was at L3 at the time. He knows if he gets lynch Scum would be screwed. Why has people not seen the Self Prez Baker have been doing All day????/

[theoneceko]

That's before FB hard-claimed Mario (even though he hinted it earlier).

And that's bullshit. There's about a 6-hour gap between that message and when he comes back.

From my time zone that was from 11-ish PM. He doesn't come back till 5-ish AM in the morning.


ok, then disregard that specific point. since it's factually invalid.

[Mike]

anyways just gonna leave this here regarding theoneceko


#147 > i am trying to solve slots

#160 > this is one of the posts where i suspect ceko TMI

#168 > half rvs/half suspicion (this is in no way a scumpaint)

#250 > first ever response of ceko to me and it is just scumpainting. ever since then ceko is just actively scumpainting me and IDK what else to tell you all




now I am being voted by mike/ceko both players have been tunneling me since d1 even though I claim TPR and expected scum visit on n1 but sadly they didn't.


if we don't find someone then town loses a TPR today to the votes. maybe then you guys will realize what kind of a horrible mistake ceko and mike are doing right now ;/


FB is confusing me a lot too, he could simply visit me on n1 or n2 but they don't want to?


this is ridiculous and if any of these players are town then they are gamethrowing lmao


Lets see you tryed to let us belive you where Marieo Day 1. Tryed to remove the lynch we where trying to push on zone. now you claiming TPR when TPR have uniqe roles that way no one can CC you and know you are fake.

[Mike]

ceko/mike*

i am just pissed overall, sorry

YOU ARE MAFIA OMFG TOWN WTF ARE YOU DOING VOTE BAKER

[FrostByte]

Marieo

jfc

[FrostByte]

YOU ARE MAFIA OMFG TOWN WTF ARE YOU DOING VOTE BAKER

You're all capsing about them being mafia because they typed a mistake? You barely speak English... by your logic you're the scummiest person of all time

[Mike]

And if Mike's thunder-dome comes to fruition then I am 100% voting him over you.

Vote me fine But know you will be voteing Town over MAfia. Think I was also pinging people pushing to get Zone lynched. Baker was opposed to it LOGIC MAN LOGIC!!!!

[Mike]

thaat doesn't make sense. Martin is town

Martin is Town OR evil Daisy If you check dasy you make her evil and you would still get a town feeback or should i say Mushroom Kingdom Feedback. With DM climing he went from Toad to PR means someone role has changed!!!

All we know is Martian is not MAfia.

[Mike]

i really dot think this will flip scum but we gotta do somehitng people

Vote Baker I am telling you all he is mafia.

PLease if you dont trust my read fine

Do an ISO on ME and Baker and watch the reations. also look at EOD day 1 He pretty much outed he was scum partners with zone. Also Kenny Thought he was not town. You will see that is you also ISO kenny.

Town look for your self if you dont trust me PLEASE!!!!

[theoneceko]

i don't like marsh or martin's votes on bahk.
MartinGG99 if it comes down to it, pls unvote bahk in support of ur post saying a no-lynch would work today:



I honestly would be somewhat okay with a no-elimination for today.


bahk's lynch will give us no info. he explained his town meta in the last game he was town, and he's playing his town meta rn. i doubt he can change it; if i remember correctly, he called himself a bad player and that's why he doesn't make reads. i doubt he's the type of player that can "manually change his meta."

[Mike]

He isn't scum-reading me lol.

He just said I was the optimal elimination.

He said the exact same thing about me over Zone Day 1

[FrostByte]

Vote Baker I am telling you all he is mafia.

PLease if you dont trust my read fine

Do an ISO on ME and Baker and watch the reations. also look at EOD day 1 He pretty much outed he was scum partners with zone. Also Kenny Thought he was not town. You will see that is you also ISO kenny.

Town look for your self if you dont trust me PLEASE!!!!
I'll do it for Kenny then.

If you're wrong, you're next.

Bakermir

[Mike]

No lynch is not good town!!!!!!!!!

[Mike]

I'll do it for Kenny then.

If you're wrong, you're next.

Bakermir

Fine if i am wrong I wll be happy to be next. The problem is I am not wrong.

[BananaCucho]

Just under an hour before day end (about 59 min)

[FrostByte]

I'm also willing to switch to Bahkieh. They would be L-3 if I switched.

[FrostByte]

Firebringer (1 [L-6]): (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/15644)
Bruno (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=899732)
bakermir (3 [L-4]): (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/45327)
FrostByte (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=900077), Mike (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=899256), theoneceko (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=899540)
Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-6]): (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/29377)
Bahkieh (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=899188)
Bahkieh (3 [L-4]): (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/4042)
Firebringer (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=900018), Marshmallow Marshall (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=899876), MartinGG99 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=900022)

[Renegade]

I'm okay with this

bakermir

[theoneceko]

day 1 eod was very telling for bake's alignment. no one seems to realize this.

apparently bake soft-claimed mario on day 1, but a quick re-read of his iso doesn't show that. Mike can u pull up the quote??? i've been considering a world where mike is scum thanks to bake, but i obviously shouldn't be influenced by bake.

thunderdoming mike v bake is the right call. scum!mike would not bring attention to himself like this. there's also no way mike and bake's interactions are SvS; it makes no sense for mafia to bus each other the day after their bowser died.

[theoneceko]

anyways just gonna leave this here regarding theoneceko


#147 > i am trying to solve slots

#160 > this is one of the posts where i suspect ceko TMI

#168 > half rvs/half suspicion (this is in no way a scumpaint)

#250 > first ever response of ceko to me and it is just scumpainting. ever since then ceko is just actively scumpainting me and IDK what else to tell you all




now I am being voted by mike/ceko both players have been tunneling me since d1 even though I claim TPR and expected scum visit on n1 but sadly they didn't.


if we don't find someone then town loses a TPR today to the votes. maybe then you guys will realize what kind of a horrible mistake ceko and mike are doing right now ;/


FB is confusing me a lot too, he could simply visit me on n1 or n2 but they don't want to?


this is ridiculous and if any of these players are town then they are gamethrowing lmao

it's not like u made urself look any townier the first time i read ur posts. and re-reading them just makes me scumread you even harder.

[theoneceko]

I'll do it for Kenny then.

If you're wrong, you're next.

Bakermir

noU.

[FrostByte]

day 1 eod was very telling for bake's alignment. no one seems to realize this.

We spoke about that at length

[FrostByte]

noU.

So scared with your limp dick threats lmao you tried to tunnel me so hard and got nowhere

then you backpedaled once you realized it wouldn't bus

then you went back to it

limp dick

[FrostByte]

flaccid

[theoneceko]

Marshmallow Marshall do what frost did. follow kenny's last will and vote bake.

[theoneceko]

So scared with your limp dick threats lmao you tried to tunnel me so hard and got nowhere

then you backpedaled once you realized it wouldn't bus

then you went back to it

limp dick

we spoke about that at length
i can't help it if u keep posting scummy stuff

[FrostByte]

If Bake flips town, Ceko and Mike are scum or retarded. There would be no other possible logical outcome.

[Mike]

Firebringer
Dark Magician
Bahkieh
Whysper
MartinGG99
Marshmallow Marshall
Gyrlander
Bruno
theoneceko

Vote please 1 hour left Let not end this with a no Lynch and give no info for town. If you truly think I am mafia fine lynch me because That info will help town as well. Just do not let people discredit my reads when you see i flip town.

ISO ME KENNY AND BAKERMIR. if you do you will see what I am talking about. Look at my interactions with Kenny about baker. Look at bakers EOD Who is push who he Shielded. Normaly I am flip flop day 1 because it is hard to get reads. But my reads after day 1 tend to be pretty good.

Dont let baker tell you like he tryed earlyer saying my reads are back like in sprits Hell I was NE in sprits I was not supposed to tell town all my true reads. That does not mean when I am town my reads are bad.

I have stayed consistent all day today.

So I am either bad because I all all over the place or I am consistent and that means I am tunneling.

He is claiming PR not his role so he wil not have to take a chance of getting CCed. Because if he claims a PR role he would be CCed.

Take a look at end of day 1 He pocketed me making me think he was Mario. PLease town Look at all the evadance. If you want to lynch me fine VOTE ME If you wantto lynch Baker GOOD VOTE HIM

lynch me lynch a town
Lynch bakermir lynch a mafia.

[FrostByte]

we spoke about that at length
i can't help it if u keep posting scummy stuff

Answer my question about your avatar.

[bakermir]

If Bake flips town, Ceko and Mike are scum or retarded. There would be no other possible logical outcome.

don't forget

[MartinGG99]

i don't like marsh or martin's votes on bahk.
MartinGG99 if it comes down to it, pls unvote bahk in support of ur post saying a no-lynch would work today:



bahk's lynch will give us no info. he explained his town meta in the last game he was town, and he's playing his town meta rn. i doubt he can change it; if i remember correctly, he called himself a bad player and that's why he doesn't make reads. i doubt he's the type of player that can "manually change his meta."

Okay, fine.

Unvote

A no-elimination is what I feel best with, though I have a slight feeling that isn't going to be what happens despite my efforts.

[FrostByte]

Okay, fine.

Unvote

A no-elimination is what I feel best with, though I have a slight feeling that isn't going to be what happens despite my efforts.

This is scummy as fuck

[FrostByte]

don't forget

If you flip town I won't let them forget that. I promise.

[bakermir]

also I ain't voting Bahkieh even though CFD is what got us Bowser on EoD1 and there is a high chance we hit another if we did another CFD roulette in Toad pool.


lynching tpr on d2 = anti-town


they will just vote each other tomorrow or vote someone like frost next lmao

[MartinGG99]

[QUOTE=Mike;900093]
MartinGG99/QUOTE]

No. I'm not doing anything here.

[MartinGG99]

This is scummy as fuck

it's obviously scummy as fuck

[Mike]

Okay, fine.

Unvote

A no-elimination is what I feel best with, though I have a slight feeling that isn't going to be what happens despite my efforts.

NO WRONG, that does not give town any info and helps Scum. only power town has is the Vote. Even voteing me is better than no vote. Becuse I flip will help town know everything I have put is True, next mafia will do is Discredit me saying I am a moron. EVen kenny saw it. We got Bowser Day 1

[MartinGG99]

lynching tpr on d2 = anti-town

As much as I am not voting you today,

This is the number 1 statement I've hated so much from you.

TPR claim =/= immunity from elimination

For typically good reasons.

[bakermir]

he can be checked. not tonight but maybe nights 3, 4 etc.

and what stops FB from checking me tonight?

[theoneceko]

Answer my question about your avatar.

there should literally be no discussion about my avatar. it's pointless. u trying to make a big deal out of it will be the only way my changed avatar will become one.

[bakermir]

As much as I am not voting you today,

This is the number 1 statement I've hated so much from you.

TPR claim =/= immunity from elimination

For typically good reasons.

that's fair. I never claimed to get a pass. I claimed to prove a point about Mike and ceko also protect a possible Mario.

I claimed it eod1 and i stand behind it. It is scum who has to deal with that this early on, not town.

I also never claimed Mario.

[FrostByte]

Only world frost can be scum in is 1

Bruno and Frost bussed the hell out of there partner.

And if you run that world I can only say one thing

Get the fuck out of here with that bull shit logic
theoneceko either actually respond to this and get off my nuts or just get off my nuts

[theoneceko]

also I ain't voting Bahkieh even though CFD is what got us Bowser on EoD1 and there is a high chance we hit another if we did another CFD roulette in Toad pool.


lynching tpr on d2 = anti-town


they will just vote each other tomorrow or vote someone like frost next lmao

?????eod was everyone turbo'ing zone while u tried to pull town's votes in about five directions.

[theoneceko]

?????eod was everyone turbo'ing zone while u tried to pull town's votes in about five other directions.

fixed that

[MartinGG99]

[COLOR="#FF0000"]NO WRONG

Mike you're not going to convince me to do anything. You've tried this with a lot of posts over the course of D2.

You're perseverance is admirable, but plausibly mistaken fmpov.

Right now a no-elimination will provide info based on who they NK, which theories does it lend credibility to

and etc etc

Also I'm not going to solve all these messes in the next 40 minutes.

[FrostByte]

there should literally be no discussion about my avatar. it's pointless. u trying to make a big deal out of it will be the only way my changed avatar will become one.

Bullshit. We had a whole discussion about it earlier and shortly afterward you changed it.

You're so full of shit.

[bakermir]

?????eod was everyone turbo'ing zone while u tried to pull town's votes in about five directions.

what?

I stated I will be voting ZoneQQ 911 many times if Mike lynch isn't happening and I had fair reasons to scumread you overall. I stand behind my reads and you stand behind yours, except; you and mike are hypocritical when it comes to night checks and other claims /shrug

[theoneceko]

theoneceko either actually respond to this and get off my nuts or just get off my nuts

ignored. your level of OMGUS doesn't work. i've answered almost every one of ur questions, even tho i found most of them pointless. i'm not going to keep interacting with scum. BUH-BYE.

[theoneceko]

what?

I stated I will be voting ZoneQQ 911 many times if Mike lynch isn't happening and I had fair reasons to scumread you overall. I stand behind my reads and you stand behind yours, except; you and mike are hypocritical when it comes to night checks and other claims /shrug

wdym?

[Bahkieh]

Bakermir

So question. When do we stop trusting the Mario slot since it can change alignment?

[FrostByte]

Not answering to this post but just wanted to quote you.

You feel so different from Insane Asylum. Maybe it's the avatar change, but in Asylum you seemed much more discrete and appeared to have an ace up your sleeve all the time.

Here you seem much more upfront. But as I said, maybe it's because you have a weird pixel girl instead of that nightmare-fuel moon.


also I feel something similar with your avatar change. your old avatar was too cute + confusing for me to read you as scum ever, now I read you much bravely somehow and i know it is probably a mistake to read people based on avatars ;p

furthermore, i actually admire banana and ren changing avatars in insane also. I think style of @Norwee (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45628) enlightened me on some things so all credit goes to them. ever since I picked up FM, I have been experimenting with the idea of changing avatars coming to each game, and even considered mid game changes. It reminds me of picking names in the mod coming to each game. i am still exploring ideas and learning without basing my gameplay on meta


And okay, seeing how people really get influenced avatars, I might have to ditch my beautiful apparently-a-Rorschach-test wolf avatar.

But the biggest fuckup is


SAME about frinckles, holy shit that pic srsly affects my view and it pisses me off LMAO
theoneceko you outwardly admitted that avatars change your view but you changed yours midgame. Now you act like it's nothing.

[Mike]

Mike you're not going to convince me to do anything. You've tried this with a lot of posts over the course of D2.

You're perseverance is admirable, but plausibly mistaken fmpov.

Right now a no-elimination will provide info based on who they NK, which theories does it lend credibility to

and etc etc

Also I'm not going to solve all these messes in the next 40 minutes.

I am convensed he is not Evil Dasiy. This Post makes 0 since from a Evil dasiy. What I am confused on is whos role changed to trigger DM? Or is DM lieing? But I am willing to see how DM confirmes himself tomorrow. May give us more info to work with.

[BananaCucho]

Day end in 29 min

If the players elect to fast rather than have lunch, I will close the thread at 4 PM per my cell phone. There will be no disputing this

[theoneceko]

there were several instances where i made good points about bake and bake did nothing to refute them. another reason why i scumread him. rn i'm not going to bother trying to pull those instances off the top of my head. u can ask me about them tomorrow.

[FrostByte]

ignored. your level of OMGUS doesn't work. i've answered almost every one of ur questions, even tho i found most of them pointless. i'm not going to keep interacting with scum. BUH-BYE.

You didn't address shit. All you said about it was


oh my god pls think beyond what my vote says at face-value


i'm pretty sure u didn't mean to be anti-town, but u just were here.

[FrostByte]

theoneceko I'm literally gonna spam you until you answer about Mike's logic and your avatar. A real answer.

[FrostByte]

theoneceko keep shrugging it off like it's nothing but you're tunneling me for dumb shit and I'm not gonna let you get away with it. Address this shit.

[bakermir]

wdym?

you are ok with anyone gettin a chance on cop check except your TPR(me) which you have been the driving force behind their ML.


you are ok with Mario claim and unique toad claim, both came after my tpr claim. None of us got cc-ed so far and that doesn't mean we are 100% confirmed but if you were to pull out your head from this tunnel to actually think what is best for town mechanically then you wouldn't be voting me so this goes to prove you are just dumb this game or scum, same goes for mike.

and I don't even need this at all. both of you have shitty tone as well. if anyone else here were in same situation I would for sure point out all the logical fallacy you both have so far.

[theoneceko]

ignored. your level of OMGUS doesn't work. i've answered almost every one of ur questions, even tho i found most of them pointless. i'm not going to keep interacting with scum. BUH-BYE.

another reason why i'm ignoring frost is that my last 50 posts interacting with him have done nothing to help me solve the game. i'm also pretty sure the next 50 will be the same.

[FrostByte]

another reason why i'm ignoring frost is that my last 50 posts interacting with him have done nothing to help me solve the game. i'm also pretty sure the next 50 will be the same.
theoneceko answer my questions you lying fucker

[Mike]

OK, lets hit another one This one is for you Kenny. They killed you we kill them.

Firebringer (1 [L-6]):
Bruno
bakermir (5 [L-2]):
FrostByte, Bahkieh, Mike, theoneceko, Renegade
Bahkieh (2 [L-5]):
Firebringer, Marshmallow Marshall

[MartinGG99]

So question. When do we stop trusting the Mario slot since it can change alignment?

Possibly whenever the night is missing a night kill or has an extra one.

Extra one showing the conversion has already hit and there's possibly evils/love-birds

Or the missing one indicating that Princess Toadstool was captured by the Koopas.

These can all be mimic'ed though by other role actions (such as a jailor execution or role-block).

The existence of 2 kills in a single night though would be more suspicious imo rather than 0 kills.

I wouldn't tin-foil it at 0 kills, maybe a bit at 2 kills in a single night.

[Mike]

you are ok with anyone gettin a chance on cop check except your TPR(me) which you have been the driving force behind their ML.


you are ok with Mario claim and unique toad claim, both came after my tpr claim. None of us got cc-ed so far and that doesn't mean we are 100% confirmed but if you were to pull out your head from this tunnel to actually think what is best for town mechanically then you wouldn't be voting me so this goes to prove you are just dumb this game or scum, same goes for mike.

and I don't even need this at all. both of you have shitty tone as well. if anyone else here were in same situation I would for sure point out all the logical fallacy you both have so far.

You keep saying TPR over and over that way you can hide behind that. Fake claim.

[Renegade]

OK, lets hit another one This one is for you Kenny. They killed you we kill them.

Firebringer (1 [L-6]):
Bruno
bakermir (5 [L-2]):
FrostByte, Bahkieh, Mike, theoneceko, Renegade
Bahkieh (2 [L-5]):
Firebringer, Marshmallow Marshall

Again with the saccharine half memey - we must avenge kenny! I can't believe they killed kenny! - goofiness that seems sketchy to me.

[FrostByte]

theoneseko

oh my god pls think beyond what my vote says at face-value


i'm pretty sure u didn't mean to be anti-town, but u just were here.

Is all you said in response to Mike's logic about me bussing the fuck out of Godfather. Now you're tunneling me. Why?

I swear to God I'm gonna spam this post if you don't answer.

[bakermir]

OK, lets hit another one This one is for you Kenny. They killed you we kill them.

Firebringer (1 [L-6]):
Bruno
bakermir (5 [L-2]):
FrostByte, Bahkieh, Mike, theoneceko, Renegade
Bahkieh (2 [L-5]):
Firebringer, Marshmallow Marshall

Mike

CFD here if you guys want. or finish me off now and get this clown tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OWOQF3dWi0

[FrostByte]

oh my god pls think beyond what my vote says at face-value


i'm pretty sure u didn't mean to be anti-town, but u just were here.

Is all you said in response to Mike's logic about me bussing the fuck out of Godfather. Now you're tunneling me. Why?

I swear to God I'm gonna spam this post if you don't answer.
theoneseko

[Mike]

Possibly whenever the night is missing a night kill or has an extra one.

Extra one showing the conversion has already hit and there's possibly evils/love-birds

Or the missing one indicating that Princess Toadstool was captured by the Koopas.

These can all be mimic'ed though by other role actions (such as a jailor execution or role-block).

The existence of 2 kills in a single night though would be more suspicious imo rather than 0 kills.

I wouldn't tin-foil it at 0 kills, maybe a bit at 2 kills in a single night.

Wait if we lynch another Mafia that would suck for any Evil Neutral so you might be Evil Dasy.

I am going to love when everyone sees this flip. I will prob be killed tonight. becuse no way Mafia is going to claim I am Neutral or Mafia. after they see this.

[FrostByte]

why does that tag keep fuckingup
theoneceko oh it's because his stupid name is spelled wrong. Oh well.

[FrostByte]

theoneceko

oh my god pls think beyond what my vote says at face-value


i'm pretty sure u didn't mean to be anti-town, but u just were here.

Is all you said in response to Mike's logic about me bussing the fuck out of Godfather. Now you're tunneling me. Why?

I swear to God I'm gonna spam this post if you don't answer.

[Mike]

Mike

CFD here if you guys want. or finish me off now and get this clown tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OWOQF3dWi0

I openly ADMIT THIS LYNCH ON BAKERMIR IS 100% MY TRAIN AND HIS FLIP IS 100% MY FAULT

Feel better baker????

[FrostByte]

I openly ADMIT THIS LYNCH ON BAKERMIR IS 100% MY TRAIN AND HIS FLIP IS 100% MY FAULT

Feel better baker????

I'm not gonna let you shrug this off as "whoops I was wrong" if baker flips town. Just saying. I'm gonna be relentless about it.

[Mike]

I openly ADMIT THIS LYNCH ON BAKERMIR IS 100% MY TRAIN AND HIS FLIP IS 100% MY FAULT

Feel better baker????

You see I don't care because Mafia will have to kill me tonight for getting You lynched leaving 1 or 2 mafia left. (Fear KILL). I am ok with that because it will still give town More info tomorrow.

[bakermir]

I openly ADMIT THIS LYNCH ON BAKERMIR IS 100% MY TRAIN AND HIS FLIP IS 100% MY FAULT

Feel better baker????


nope

[Mike]

I'm not gonna let you shrug this off as "whoops I was wrong" if baker flips town. Just saying. I'm gonna be relentless about it.

Go for it, becuse he will flip mafia. No world would he play like he has played if he was town. Makes 0 sense.

[FrostByte]

@theoneceko

(https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=39849)


oh my god pls think beyond what my vote says at face-value


i'm pretty sure u didn't mean to be anti-town, but u just were here.

Is all you said in response to Mike's logic about me bussing the fuck out of Godfather. Now you're tunneling me. Why?

I swear to God I'm gonna spam this post if you don't answer.

[FrostByte]

Go for it, becuse he will flip mafia. No world would he play like he has played if he was town. Makes 0 sense.

ok but if baker flips town I'm gonna destroy your "lol well it's his fault he played bad" argument

[Mike]

nope

I know becuse it will confirm me as town. Thank you for Playing here is your prize on the way out a hangman's noose.

[bakermir]

I'm not gonna let you shrug this off as "whoops I was wrong" if baker flips town. Just saying. I'm gonna be relentless about it.

the problem is, if these two idiots are not scum then town will have a lot of work after this.

[FrostByte]

NEED 2 VOTES TO HAMMER BAKERMIR

[Mike]

ok but if baker flips town I'm gonna destroy your "lol well it's his fault he played bad" argument

Ok I Get it. how many times do you need to clarify it?

[FrostByte]

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theoneceko (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/39849-theoneceko)

[Gyrlander]

Well, I'm back. I'm not gonna read all these pages since there's jsut 15 minutes left, but I don't want to lynch baker. Either skip or Bahkieh, and Bakhiek being a pure null lurker.

[Mike]

ok but if baker flips town I'm gonna destroy your "lol well it's his fault he played bad" argument

Ok I Get it. how many times do you need to clarify it? It will be 100% my fault but he will not flip town.

[theoneceko]

you are ok with anyone gettin a chance on cop check except your TPR(me) which you have been the driving force behind their ML.


you are ok with Mario claim and unique toad claim, both came after my tpr claim. None of us got cc-ed so far and that doesn't mean we are 100% confirmed but if you were to pull out your head from this tunnel to actually think what is best for town mechanically then you wouldn't be voting me so this goes to prove you are just dumb this game or scum, same goes for mike.

and I don't even need this at all. both of you have shitty tone as well. if anyone else here were in same situation I would for sure point out all the logical fallacy you both have so far.

first of all, the setup doesn't say there can only be one tpr. we can have multiple tpr's, we just can't have two tpr's that are the same role. i've seen a world where u could be neutral. i posted a wall on this at the start of day 2. u could be toadstool. you've mentioned the name princess toadstool several times this game starting from day 1, even though the fact we probably have a toadstool wasn't confirmed by banana's sod posts until day 2 (since banana mentioned princess toadstool in two consecutive sod posts).

what if fire doesn't check u? what if he's actually converted and just claims that ur town? what if shy guy frames u or fire gets roleblocked? there are a lot of scenarios. i'm nearly certain that between the setup wifom hell that consists of fire, dm, and you, u are the best lynch in this scenario.

none of ur votes this game looked good to me. ever since ur very first post, you've pinged me a lot. i doubt u are tpr. ur at l-2 and STILL haven't claimed ur role. it's best to get u out today so u can't keep on influencing discussion.

[Mike]

ok but if baker flips town I'm gonna destroy your "lol well it's his fault he played bad" argument


NEED 2 VOTES TO HAMMER BAKERMIR

This is odd, Are you saying I am wrong on baker TMI????????

[bakermir]

Go for it, becuse he will flip mafia. No world would he play like he has played if he was town. Makes 0 sense.

words of a scared man =)

[FrostByte]

Well, I'm back. I'm not gonna read all these pages since there's jsut 15 minutes left, but I don't want to lynch baker. Either skip or Bahkieh, and Bakhiek being a pure null lurker.

Town is in a good spot. The best play for town is to get a lynch so we can either deduce loyalty based on flip or at the very least narrow down who might be scum. Do you agree or disagree with this?

[Renegade]

Welp, looks like no lunch today.

[Renegade]

I agree that no lunch is stupid for today.

[FrostByte]

This is odd, Are you saying I am wrong on baker TMI????????

Nope. I'm sheeping that vote. I'm just letting you know you won't be able to slime your way out of it if they flip town. That's all.

[Mike]

words of a scared man =)

Scared ROFLOL I have openly admited your lynch roflol WHERE IN WHAT WOULD AM I SCARED.

I am a bit put off on Frosts pre push like he has TMI.

[Mike]

Nope. I'm sheeping that vote. I'm just letting you know you won't be able to slime your way out of it if they flip town. That's all.

Tell me now what do you read me as? Town or Mafia?

[theoneceko]

Well, I'm back. I'm not gonna read all these pages since there's jsut 15 minutes left, but I don't want to lynch baker. Either skip or Bahkieh, and Bakhiek being a pure null lurker.

trying to get free townpoints now that bake is at l-2 with 10 minutes left in the day???

[FrostByte]

Scared ROFLOL I have openly admited your lynch roflol WHERE IN WHAT WOULD AM I SCARED.

I am a bit put off on Frosts pre push like he has TMI.

I've had you scumread and my actions are going to be based off of yours. If that makes you nervous then don't act in an anti-town fashion

[FrostByte]

trying to get free townpoints now that bake is at l-2 with 10 minutes left in the day???

@theoneceko

(https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=39849)


oh my god pls think beyond what my vote says at face-value


i'm pretty sure u didn't mean to be anti-town, but u just were here.

Is all you said in response to Mike's logic about me bussing the fuck out of Godfather. Now you're tunneling me. Why?

I swear to God I'm gonna spam this post if you don't answer.

[bakermir]

first of all, the setup doesn't say there can only be one tpr. we can have multiple tpr's, we just can't have two tpr's that are the same role. i've seen a world where u could be neutral. i posted a wall on this at the start of day 2. u could be toadstool. you've mentioned the name princess toadstool several times this game starting from day 1, even though the fact we probably have a toadstool wasn't confirmed by banana's sod posts until day 2 (since banana mentioned princess toadstool in two consecutive sod posts).

what if fire doesn't check u? what if he's actually converted and just claims that ur town? what if shy guy frames u or fire gets roleblocked? there are a lot of scenarios. i'm nearly certain that between the setup wifom hell that consists of fire, dm, and you, u are the best lynch in this scenario.

none of ur votes this game looked good to me. ever since ur very first post, you've pinged me a lot. i doubt u are tpr. ur at l-2 and STILL haven't claimed ur role. it's best to get u out today so u can't keep on influencing discussion.

ceko you know from mod very well to not lynch uncontested TPR on d1/d2

it is mechanically wrong in any world.

your bias will be the end of you this game and will be forever remembered ;(


same goes to mike

[Mike]

I've had you scumread and my actions are going to be based off of yours. If that makes you nervous then don't act in an anti-town fashion

Then you should be voting me not sheeping me.

[FrostByte]

Mike I wouldn't be as upfront or stubborn about it if you hadn't said multiple times that Bake is 100% scum. You're so confident about it but your actions are going to have consequence either way.

[FrostByte]

Then you should be voting me not sheeping me.

I disagree. I'm leaving room for my reads to be wrong. I'm not arrogant.

[Gyrlander]

Town is in a good spot. The best play for town is to get a lynch so we can either deduce loyalty based on flip or at the very least narrow down who might be scum. Do you agree or disagree with this?

I don't want to lynch baker even if we can "deduce loyalties". I don't lynch people that I don't want dead. Easy as that.

[theoneceko]

ceko you know from mod very well to not lynch uncontested TPR on d1/d2

it is mechanically wrong in any world.

your bias will be the end of you this game and will be forever remembered ;(


same goes to mike

i said this already... i learned from scum!frinckles to not take mechanical arguments super seriously.

[Mike]

@theoneceko

(https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=39849)





Is all you said in response to Mike's logic about me bussing the fuck out of Godfather. Now you're tunneling me. Why?

I swear to God I'm gonna spam this post if you don't answer.

If you are scum reading me how is my logic good when I pushed him from your PoV?????
You are makeing no logic.

Town I think I fucked up on baker.

[FrostByte]

I don't want to lynch baker even if we can "deduce loyalties". I don't lynch people that I don't want dead. Easy as that.

So you're not gonna do what's best for town? Should I be scumreading you for that?

[bakermir]

Scared ROFLOL I have openly admited your lynch roflol WHERE IN WHAT WOULD AM I SCARED.

I am a bit put off on Frosts pre push like he has TMI.

you are shitting your pants in every game we played ever since I called you suspicious on d1 in our first game together where you were NE

time to retire old man

[Mike]

No frost has me all confussed

[Gyrlander]

trying to get free townpoints now that bake is at l-2 with 10 minutes left in the day???

Why would that give me townpoints? If you manage to lynch him and flips scum you'll likely condemn me, if he doesn't get lynched then it's my fault town doesn't get any info and if he gets lynched and flips Town then I smile while I say you're dumb

10/10

[FrostByte]

If you are scum reading me how is my logic good when I pushed him from your PoV?????
You are makeing no logic.

Town I think I fucked up on baker.

You can agree with someone's logic and still think they're scum, doofus. Besides, you're definitely not the only reason I'm comfortable voting Bake.

Is this an insurance post in case you fucked up and Bake flips town?

Not so confident all of a sudden?

Did your arrogance just melt away?

lmfao

[theoneceko]

If you are scum reading me how is my logic good when I pushed him from your PoV?????
You are makeing no logic.

Town I think I fucked up on baker.

at this point we can't switch to someone else. it'll just screw town's direction tomorrow and bake will forever remain a question mark in our heads.

[Mike]

you are shitting your pants in every game we played ever since I called you suspicious on d1 in our first game together where you were NE

time to retire old man

I was viggy in the first game.

And the game i was NE I won. sorry but you have never had me shitting in my pants.

No i am not wrong on you I am not letting frost derail this.,

[Gyrlander]

So you're not gonna do what's best for town? Should I be scumreading you for that?

Excuse me, Sir FrostByte representing the whole Town and having infinite knowledge on what's best for everyone else. Are you a politician?

[bakermir]

No frost has me all confussed

no you are just shitting your pants LOL

[MartinGG99]

you know from mod very well to not lynch uncontested TPR on d1/d2


This is wrong on so many levels.

The mod is VERY different from Forum Mafia in terms of strategies and more.

Not least of which:

1. Basically everyone in the mod is a fucking power role
2. Those TPR's are sorted into categories. Not just "Hidden town"
3. You don't lynch people who claim a specific role, and are uncontested by role/category.

You claimed "TPR" and left it at that.

[theoneceko]

Why would that give me townpoints? If you manage to lynch him and flips scum you'll likely condemn me, if he doesn't get lynched then it's my fault town doesn't get any info and if he gets lynched and flips Town then I smile while I say you're dumb

10/10

i'm literally only concerned with the way u popped in at eod. my point has been made.

[FrostByte]

No frost has me all confussed

I think you're scummy but I'm not 100% about it

I think Bake is scummy, too. Plus you have good reason for pushing Bake. I can agree with your logic for the push while simultaneously think you might be scum.

I'm very actively keeping you in both the scum and potentially not scum category because I'm avoiding being arrogant.

[FrostByte]

i'm literally only concerned with the way u popped in at eod. my point has been made.

@theoneceko

(https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=39849)


oh my god pls think beyond what my vote says at face-value


i'm pretty sure u didn't mean to be anti-town, but u just were here.

Is all you said in response to Mike's logic about me bussing the fuck out of Godfather. Now you're tunneling me. Why?

I swear to God I'm gonna spam this post if you don't answer.

[Mike]

You can agree with someone's logic and still think they're scum, doofus. Besides, you're definitely not the only reason I'm comfortable voting Bake.

Is this an insurance post in case you fucked up and Bake flips town?

Not so confident all of a sudden?

Did your arrogance just melt away?

lmfao

Yes only becuse of you!!!

You are acting like you know his flip before it happens like you are preparing for it in advance.
So yes I was hard cofdenet he was mafia. But now you have created a question mark in my mind if you are scum setting up for tomorrow.

[Gyrlander]

i'm literally only concerned with the way u popped in at eod. my point has been made.

I can give you a long list of excuses on why I haven't been here until now and they are 100% true so you DON'T have a point FMPOV.

[theoneceko]

This is wrong on so many levels.

The mod is VERY different from Forum Mafia in terms of strategies and more.

Not least of which:

1. Basically everyone in the mod is a fucking power role
2. Those TPR's are sorted into categories. Not just "Hidden town"
3. You don't lynch people who claim a specific role, and are uncontested by role/category.

You claimed "TPR" and left it at that.

BAKE STILL HASN'T CLAIMED AND HE'S AT L-2 LMAOOOO

[FrostByte]

Excuse me, Sir FrostByte representing the whole Town and having infinite knowledge on what's best for everyone else. Are you a politician?

So you're not gonna answer my question?

[bakermir]

i said this already... i learned from scum!frinckles to not take mechanical arguments super seriously.

frinckles is a different person, you are a different person. we are all different ceko. you can't really live with someone elses facts but you experience them and find what is best for you. surely, frinckles is a top player that we all look upon and learn many things, in FM there are unlimited possibilities of events and what people can say or do since every game is different and every player is unique and can create infinite amount of personas to play as.

[FrostByte]

Yes only becuse of you!!!

You are acting like you know his flip before it happens like you are preparing for it in advance.
So yes I was hard cofdenet he was mafia. But now you have created a question mark in my mind if you are scum setting up for tomorrow.

Never once implied or stated that I knew what the flip would be. I honestly don't know what the flip will be, which is why I very specifically prefaced everything with "if bake flips town."

Bake is right, you're shitting your pants lol.

[Gyrlander]

So you're not gonna answer my question?

I'm pretty sure that answers your question but I'll give you another one: I play to have fun and I follow my principles. As long as I'm not gamethrowing I refuse to lynch someone I don't want lynched. The end.

[FrostByte]

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[Mike]

vote now or we skip

[BananaCucho]

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