FM XXI: Night 2

[Forum Mafia GM]

Starts now

[Old FM Argentina]

Well, fuck

[Old FM Argentina]

Now I'm probably gonna have to disguise after getting so much town cred

[Old FM Spain]

My results last night were interesting. I saw Columbia visit Greenland. I though about claiming Lookout, but I worried that it may end up harming us. If later Greenland was killed, I may have been next. If I wasn't targeted by an Operator, then both Columbia and Egypt have to be lying. I'd guess that Columbia is a Cult Leader, since he's not town (unless he's actually a tpr that was trying to get Greenland lynched, though he defended him a bit, making that unlikely). He would have known that Greenland was lying about his claim and since Cult wants to eliminate the mafia, he would take the opportunity to claim and get Greenland lynched. It might be a good idea to kill him tonight.

As for Egypt, I don't know what's going on. Executioner maybe? Although is there an announcement if Executioner successfully gets their target lynched? It's possible there's an Operator, but then the Columbia thing wouldn't make sense.

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

No god why did he claim.. I thought he was going to potentially live, so I lurked towards the end :v

Anyway, South Korea's going to get gunned down now for defending Greenland so hard, so maybe we should leave them alone? As for other roles, I wish there was a way for us to communicate with Columbia *sigh* OOH, I remember Greenland posting a code. Hold on lemme get it.

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

Yeah, ok, blackmail (in day) = Cult leader. So that would explain Columbia massive time. I say we don't kill him until a few nights from now. Though then again, Libya stated he was mason, so they could easily try to recruit Columbia and instant death. Either that or Libya's cult with Columbia. Considering the facts, they're both related to that cult/mason ordeal. That's why it'd make so much sense for Columbia to claim Citizen so that the "Mason Leader" was lynched. That makes perfect sense. Ok, wow. We have a confirmed cult on our hands.

[Old FM Spain]

To my fuck buddies:

sorry troops I'm outta here, but use logic (especially concerning Egypt) and you know what to do.

cult leader sticking around before not sticking around is a good idea per what I said in night chat

don't get fooled by an ghost, it's hella bad if we do. let armor smith /architect/etc. deal with it

try to figure out who witch is and coordinate if possible

duke needs to be eliminated asap, along with South Korea, Kenya, China, and Pakistan - if these players are who I think they are these are extremely high priority all else held equal

Argentina, Saudi Arabia should work more together. fraud, demobbing, and Spain are in a good place right now

use appetizer to your advantage, especially as it ties in to the proclamation (couldn't find appetizer and proclamation in the code list)

Disguiser should get a greenlight soon, use it

tossing out roleblocks is useful for drafting later (couldnt find drafting)

Mason leader might be more likely than mason (talking about Libya I suppose)

All non-town, even if we don't individually win, we do at some level if we fuck the town. Let the reign of scum continue from FM XX!

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

FM Argentina Disguiser (Ragnar Lodbrok)
FM Australia Consigliere
FM England Consort
FM Greenland Beguiler
FM Saudi Arabia Drug Dealer
FM Spain Agent

For referance

[Old FM Spain]

Oh and since Columbia was witched, I think it's just coincidence that he happened to target Greenland. He would have only gotten a failed notification.

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

Role Card Codeword
actress unembanked
agent morainic
mafia architecht bigamous
arms dealer observable
beguiler paradox
blackmailer triangulated
chauffer deposable
consigliere hexer
consort hypesthesic
disguiser greenwood
drug dealer oenomel
framer spud
grave robber clink
janitor unbeset
kidnapper kantianism
lawyer carbonic
mafia journalist semicynical
mafioso interbalanced
mortician nonsterility
tailor unsnug
thief unceremoniousness
ventriloquist outmalaprop
witch gnome
architect unmarshalled
armorsmith george
blacksmith exanimate
bodyguard inhuming
bulletproof capella
bus driver inedibility
citizen coactor
coroner illegitimatizing
crier arboreally
detective prowl
doctor deservedness
enchantress unequalizing
escort ultrafiltration
gunsmith amphigoric
intern ferricyanide
jailor nonoxidation
journalist outshowing
lookout unstanch
mason reforgeable
mason leader corvus
matchmaker eerotema
mayor nugatory
nurse educationalist
operator cautiously
sheriff ventriloquist
spy indeciduate
veteran unique
vigilante actress
cult leader blackmailer
arsonist sheperd
corrupt journalist walnut
serial killer pants
mass murderer jeans
shaman sky
toxicologist airplane
ventriloquist jet
witch smoke
amnesiac seance
arms deaker bird
executioner aardvark
ghost anteater
jester goblin
ninja giant
student fruit
survivor shell





Player Codeword
Australia verdancy
Brazil acnode
Canada permafrost
China biarticulate
Colombia prewired
Costa Rica kirsten
Cyprus cetura
Egypt bouncy
England unsteadfast
Fiji decarboxylation
France menton
Germany patroness
Greenland bogart
India brusher
Iran silverise
Ireland circumstantiated
Italy sutra
Japan tenser
Kenya argo
Libya puppyhood
Mexico propagandize
New Zealand murmurlessly
Norway lacunar
Pakistan knap
Poland neostyled
Russia independence
Saudi Arabia castilla
South Korea replumed
Spain misdating
Sweden squarehead
Switzerland unattributive
Thailand monument
USA restipulation
Argentina oceanic
Trash words eurybia
superemphasize
residency
dextro
semiprivate
calendar
demobbing
fraud
logarithm
epanaphora
shiftiness
caqueteuse
canonicals
cabalistical
austronesian
transseptal
misthrowing
duke
shipwreck
vanquishment
subfossorial




Feedback
Codeword
Roleblocked pick
Attacked anisodont
Bussed scourings
Witched preinhered
Doused appetizer
Poisoned import
Fake Vest sophomore
Fake Gun microcosmos
Lured fragmentize
Repelled christian
Lawyered pagan
Fake Suit publish

Again, for reference

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

FM Argentina Disguiser (Ragnar Lodbrok) - Kill China
FM England Consort - Roleblock Kenya?
FM Saudi Arabia Drug Dealer - Deal Egypt witched?
FM Spain Agent - See who Columbia visits

Just brainstorming possible night actions, thoughts?

[Old FM England]

Don't track columbia his citizen claim is likely legit. Who visits Columbia might be a shout though if we think mason leader will try to recruit him.

If we're going with the disguised option, we need to kill+disguise someone who is on at similar times to Argentina, so make sure to check that before we decide on the kill. He'd know better about that than me.

Witching Egypt is a good idea. If you are found by a lookout claim Matchmaker and choose one of us that hasn't posted yet.

[Old FM England]

[Don't track columbia his citizen claim is likely legit. Who visits Columbia might be a shout though if we think mason leader will try to recruit him.

Ignore this. Tracking Columbia is fine.

[Old FM Argentina]

Don't track columbia his citizen claim is likely legit. Who visits Columbia might be a shout though if we think mason leader will try to recruit him.

If we're going with the disguised option, we need to kill+disguise someone who is on at similar times to Argentina, so make sure to check that before we decide on the kill. He'd know better about that than me.

Witching Egypt is a good idea. If you are found by a lookout claim Matchmaker and choose one of us that hasn't posted yet.

Do you think Egypt is actually a Sheriff? It was impossible for a Sheriff to find Greenland as mafia last night he was beguiled onto me.

[Old FM England]

Oh right for some reason I thought you were the beguiler. I'm not running on full cylinders today.

In that case drug dealing Egypt is probably not a good idea. Drug South Korea instead.

[Old FM Argentina]

I want to use the drug dealer to find scum. I'm already pretty sure that Egypt is scum and I hope hes the kind of scum that needs to win with us and is kicking himself for his target. To that end I elect to drug Italy.

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/26855-FM-XXI-Day-2?p=436264&viewfull=1#post436264

That post screams scum to me, lets see how it looks. If he reports the feedback I'll have to try and get him killed.

-Drug FM Italy to receive the feedback "Witched". Part of me wanted to stick with "Attacked and healed" to send a message to scum that we weren't looking to confuse town, we're looking for allies. But I want to try and increase the effectiveness of the witch.

I agree with killing China even with my FOS on him. I think I can recover my town cred and will attempt to.

-FM Argentina to Kill FM China, No Disguise

I can't think of a better target to roleblock either

-Roleblock FM Kenya

-Watch FM Columbia to see who he targets

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

Wait, this doesn't make logical sense then. Greenland was targeted by Cult leader, according to the code, but he used an action last night? That doesn't make sense either. I was just thinking about that. Actions must of somehow been able to affect Greenland last night if he got feedback like that.

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

Looking at the order of operations, it shows that Columbia couldn't be cult if he successfully targeted him. So I honestly don't know right now.
Jailing (Kidnapper/Jailor)
Journalists interview (Mafia Journalist/Journalist/Corrupt Journalist)
Night chats open (Mafia Architect/Architect)
Veteran
Matchmaker
--- following night actions will cycle until resolved ---
Operator
Witching (Witch/Witch) (target's night action falls normally in Order of Operations)
Roleblocks (Consort/Escort/Intern)
Bussing (Chauffer/Bus Driver)
Beguiler
Enchantress
Shaman (target's night action falls normally in Order of Operations)
--- end cycle ---
Mafia deception (Actress/Drug Dealer/Framer/Janitor/Lawyer/Tailor)
Items given (Arms Dealer/Armorsmith/Blacksmith/Gunsmith/Arms Dealer)
Protection (Vests/Bodyguard/Doctor/Intern)
Kills (Mafia night kill/Kidnapper/Guns/Jailor/Mason Leader/Vigilante/Arsonist/Serial Killer/Mass Murderer/Toxicologist)
Disguising (Disguiser/Serial Killer)
Conversion (Mason Leader)
Conversion (Cult Leader)
Stealing (Grave Robber/Thief/Ninja)
Misc.(Blackmailer/Ventriloquist/Nurse/Ventriloquist/Amnesiac/Ghost/Jester)
Investigative (Agent/Consigliere/Mortician/Coroner/Detective/Lookout/Sheriff/Spy)
Also, if so, he wouldn't of received any feedback.
Self (successful): You converted TARGET to the Cult last night.
Self (fail): You failed to convert TARGET to the Cult last night.
Target: You were converted to the Cult last night.
There's no "Target (fail)", only target if the recruit was successful. He could of very well of done it to see if others were blackmailed, and not a call to tell us he'd been targeted cult. I'm going to check if Greenland said he got any feedback last night.

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

Ok, no feedback. So that means we might be dealing with Columbia being an Operator, as it seems to make the most sense at this point.

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

To my fuck buddies:

sorry troops I'm outta here, but use logic (especially concerning Egypt) and you know what to do.

cult leader sticking around before not sticking around is a good idea per what I said in night chat

don't get fooled by an ghost, it's hella bad if we do. let armor smith /architect/etc. deal with it

try to figure out who witch is and coordinate if possible

duke needs to be eliminated asap, along with South Korea, Kenya, China, and Pakistan - if these players are who I think they are these are extremely high priority all else held equal

Argentina, Saudi Arabia should work more together. fraud, demobbing, and Spain are in a good place right now

use dousing to your advantage, especially as it ties in to the proclamation (couldn't find proclamation in the code list)

Disguiser should get a greenlight soon, use it

tossing out roleblocks is useful for drafting later (couldnt find drafting)

Mason leader might be more likely than mason (talking about Libya I suppose)

All non-town, even if we don't individually win, we do at some level if we fuck the town. Let the reign of scum continue from FM XX!
Doused = appetizer
Couldn't find any of the other ones

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

I want to use the drug dealer to find scum. I'm already pretty sure that Egypt is scum and I hope hes the kind of scum that needs to win with us and is kicking himself for his target. To that end I elect to drug Italy.

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/26855-FM-XXI-Day-2?p=436264&viewfull=1#post436264

That post screams scum to me, lets see how it looks. If he reports the feedback I'll have to try and get him killed.

-Drug FM Italy to receive the feedback "Witched". Part of me wanted to stick with "Attacked and healed" to send a message to scum that we weren't looking to confuse town, we're looking for allies. But I want to try and increase the effectiveness of the witch.

I agree with killing China even with my FOS on him. I think I can recover my town cred and will attempt to.

-FM Argentina to Kill FM China, No Disguise

I can't think of a better target to roleblock either

-Roleblock FM Kenya

-Watch FM Columbia to see who he targetsTo make it look more realistic Drug Dealer could just not act. That way, it looks like someone who could use their shot charge once and then do something else with it. Though I'm willing to go for witched as well, neither will know which witch is real and it might be a little crazy with that, considering. Maybe to add more confusion, we could opt to not role block to make people try to see which was the witched notification?

[Old FM Spain]

I would have actually watched Argentina though because of the beguiling so Columbia could still have targeted one of them. Still the fact that I didn't see Egypt means he could be lying or got operated or something.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Deadline is over for night actions.
Night chat will close once I start handing out feedback.