S-FM 91 Be Careful On Who You Lynch!

[NoctiZ]

I have conflicted opinions.. hmm.

I don't think we have enough evidence yet to make a decision, I don't feel like accusing either of the sides I think is lying.. I would for example say that Titus isn't Doctor because Dagaen was healed and I blocked Titus so she couldn't have healed making it two Doctors which would make this an unbalanced setup IMO.

I'm a bit tired so I can't figure out all the possible outcomes, but: I think lynching Titus would gain us the most information, namely that atleast one of Dagaen, Sinclair or Nicole is mafia or that one of them is Jester in the case that Titus comes up as scum.

[Banshis]

I have conflicted opinions.. hmm.

I don't think we have enough evidence yet to make a decision, I don't feel like accusing either of the sides I think is lying.. I would for example say that Titus isn't Doctor because Dagaen was healed and I blocked Titus so she couldn't have healed making it two Doctors which would make this an unbalanced setup IMO.

I'm a bit tired so I can't figure out all the possible outcomes, but: I think lynching Titus would gain us the most information, namely that atleast one of Dagaen, Sinclair or Nicole is mafia or that one of them is Jester in the case that Titus comes up as scum.

Yea I agree that our information is a bit far fetched atm since we still don't have any hard proof. I would say lynch Sinclair or don't lynch at all today.

If we don't lynch then 1 person will die tomorrow. We can get their lw and hope that it is useful instead of lynching a possible doctor.

Otherwise I am staying on Sinclair.

[Dagaen]

Well Idk if Titus is Doctor, but I know he isn't mine Doctor. That means that either Titus is Mafia or we have another non-Titus Doctor. Safe lynch:p

[NoctiZ]

Even if Titus flips Doctor, we will have crucial information and can win this easily.

Titus

[Titus]

Information and majority voting are bullshit reasons to vote someone. I am going to hammer Sinclair to ensure it is done.

unvote

Come on. Just play logically. Sinclair and Daegun scum Nicole and Sen are jesters.

[Titus]

Well Idk if Titus is Doctor, but I know he isn't mine Doctor. That means that either Titus is Mafia or we have another non-Titus Doctor. Safe lynch:p

Only scum argue Doc is safe lynch.

[Banshis]

Information and majority voting are bullshit reasons to vote someone. I am going to hammer Sinclair to ensure it is done.

unvote

Come on. Just play logically. Sinclair and Daegun scum Nicole and Sen are jesters.

Good luck getting the hammer. You need Sen or Dagaen to vote him. Neither of them will. You need to convince either Nicole or NoctiZ.

[Titus]

Nicole is jester so she ain't gunna help. Glswadow might grow a brain. So could NoctiZ but I doubt it.

[Banshis]

Good luck getting the hammer. You need Sen or Dagaen to vote him. Neither of them will. You need to convince either Nicole or NoctiZ.

Ok I worded that wrong, but I hope you get what I mean.

[RLVG]

skip
We're being too stupid.

Let's just skip one day, see who get killed or hope the doctor will heal, allow investigators to gain more clues.

[Banshis]

Nicole is jester so she ain't gunna help. Glswadow might grow a brain. So could NoctiZ but I doubt it.

glswadow is on the train. Sen won't vote cuz he hates us. Nicole if she is a jester then yea she won't. NoctiZ wants you dead. I think it will be a no lynch day.

[Titus]

Nm glswadow actually did grow a brain.

RLVG, you are a coward. You know I am doctor and you unvote! Really?

[Banshis]

Ika I see you browsing the thread. Tell us your role and who you visited.

[NoctiZ]

Lol whatever I want to see this day end with a lynch.

Sinclair

[RLVG]

RLVG, you are a coward. You know I am doctor and you unvote! Really?

I'm not a coward, I only voted to skip day and see if others agree, otherwise I'm voting back on Sinclair.

[Titus]

Sen hates us? No. I am pretty sure his jester play is to hate me and only me.

Wow. Nocitz. I am shocked.

[Banshis]

I'm not a coward, I only voted to skip day and see if others agree, otherwise I'm voting back on Sinclair.

Well NoctiZ voted so you can put your vote back on.

[RLVG]

QUICK DO IT
Sinclair

[Nicole]

Seems that Nicole's hammer was not needed. Oh well...

I'll be around to proxy hammer if needed.

[Dagaen]

Come on. Just play logically. Sinclair and Daegun scum Nicole and Sen are jesters.

Daegun? Now you did it on purpose.

Can't you see how Titus trying to play on your emotions? Calling people names, telling people to hammer to show they have balls...

Focus on your clues guys.

[Nicole]

Do you want to wait for ika or you want her to hammer now?

[Titus]

Sinclair

The world will see he was no doctor.

[The Godfather]

Sinclair has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Sinclair ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/4916') (6 [L-0]): Titus ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=344153'), glswadow ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=344089'), Banshis ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=343777'), ika ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=343762'), RLVG ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=344148'), NoctiZ ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=344144')
Titus ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/8790') (2 [L-4]): Sen ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=343739'), Dagaen ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=344020')
Nicole ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/9251') (1 [L-5]): Sinclair ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=344013')

[powerofdeath]

"Be Careful On Who You Lynch!" I said.
"Did they listen?" I asked.
"Apparently not..." I said.
Sinclair decided to try to claim doctor. He pretended he healed Dagaen. Yet the entire town decided to vote him up, and executed him.
Sinclair's last breath was a sigh of relief. His family was free to go!
Sinclair's role was Jester!

Day end at this time! (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=july+3+4%3A00+PM+EST&x=0&y=0)

Sinclair's LW


Night one - healed Dagaen or whatever (not really!)
night 2 - hah who am I kidding, ya'll know I'm a jester now!!!

Good luck tonight ;)




Graveyard


Sinclair - Jester

[Dagaen]

Ummm...close thread?

[powerofdeath]

Hah! Now this is interesting!

Doctor receives feedback when his target is attacked, right?

Yes


Some other questions.

Can suicide from Jester can be healed? Does it happen at the end of the night or is it insta-death, right after lynch?

Jester grief cannot be healed. Grief happens at end of the night.


Is it, in anyway shape or form, possible for the doctor to not get any feedback when a doctor heals?

You probably have to block me or something xD

[powerofdeath]

Ummm...close thread?

Dont post!!!!

[powerofdeath]

We woke up, went outside and saw three people dead. We found Titus, laying on her bed dead. We found Ika laying facefront on hard cold floor of his kitchen holding a sub. We found Nicole dead on the toilet.

Day end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=july+4+4%3A00+PM+EST&x=0&y=0)

Graveyard


Sinclair - Jester
Titus
Ika
Nicole

[RLVG]

Graveyard

Error?
3 persons with no role.

[Dagaen]

Ok, Janitor and mass cleanings happen. At least Mafia apparently attacked Jester's sucidie.

My ideas:

Nicole - Doctor
Titus - Jester
Ika - some townie. Fuck him for not revealing.

[Banshis]

Ok, Janitor and mass cleanings happen. At least Mafia apparently attacked Jester's sucidie.

My ideas:

Nicole - Doctor
Titus - Jester
Ika - some townie. Fuck him for not revealing.

Actually I think that a mafia died.

Evil jester woudl kill 3 townies. The friendly would die. There should be at the minimum 4 deaths if it was the evil jester.

[NoctiZ]

Well we definitely know that it has to be the Evil Jester we lynched because two people died alongside the Jester and noone has his role revealed so Mafia did not succeed at killing..

[NoctiZ]

Actually I think that a mafia died.

Evil jester woudl kill 3 townies. The friendly would die. There should be at the minimum 4 deaths if it was the evil jester.

So where did the 3rd death come from if we got the friendly Jester, meaning one mafia suicides and the other Jester suicides?

[Dagaen]

Ok, RVLG you said Titus was Sheriff/Framer/BMer/Doctor, Sen said that Titus is Citizen/Mafioso/Jester. One of you will have some explaining to do.

[Banshis]

So where did the 3rd death come from if we got the friendly Jester, meaning one mafia suicides and the other Jester suicides?

And the mafia kill.

[powerofdeath]

Error?
3 persons with no role.

No its not an error, they dont have roles whole game.

[Banshis]

Ok, RVLG you said Titus was Sheriff/Framer/BMer/Doctor, Sen said that Titus is Citizen/Mafioso/Jester. One of you will have some explaining to do.

Sen has to be the true investigator. He didn't die so that means he was actually an invest.

[Banshis]

Dagaen I hope Nicole was actually the doctor. I inspected her last night and she was ns. That proves if she is a doctor that you are ns Dagaen.

[Sen]

RLVG
Came up as escort/consort/lookout/janitor, no place for his obviously fake invest claim.

And since we're out of jesters, we're free to lynch.

[NoctiZ]

And the mafia kill.

Mafia kill should be revealed, unless they have a Janitor of course.

[Banshis]

RLVG
Came up as escort/consort/lookout/janitor, no place for his obviously fake invest claim.

And since we're out of jesters, we're free to lynch.

Yes RLVG had a false claim and since Sen is alive and I am the Sheriff he is ns and our true invest. RLVG lied.

[Banshis]

Ok this is what I think Happened.

Sinclair- Friendly Jester- Deaths for the night. Evil Jester, 1 Mafia, Mafia kill= 3

Sinclair- Evil jester- Friendly jester, Town Death, Town Death, Town Death=4

[RLVG]

Ok, Janitor and mass cleanings happen. At least Mafia apparently attacked Jester's sucidie.

My ideas:

Nicole - Doctor
Titus - Jester
Ika - some townie. Fuck him for not revealing.

I invested Titus and got Doctor, so I think it's this :
- Nicole Jester
- Titus Doctor
- Ika Mafioso

I did check Ika to confirm if he was the Evil Jester. Lookout / Detective can confirm.

[Banshis]

RLVG
Came up as escort/consort/lookout/janitor, no place for his obviously fake invest claim.

And since we're out of jesters, we're free to lynch.

Theres our Janitor.

[Sen]

So... confirmed so far:

Banshis - Sheriff
Noctiz - Escort (can't be consort if there's a janitor)
Sen - Investigator

RLVG - mafia

[Dagaen]

Those deaths are weird idd. It's true, we had 6 townies, that would be 4 deaths (3 town + Jester).

Wtf?

[Banshis]

I invested Titus and got Doctor, so I think it's this :
- Nicole Jester
- Titus Doctor
- Ika Mafioso

I did check Ika to confirm if he was the Evil Jester. Lookout / Detective can confirm.

Sen is ns and not a jester. He has to be an investigator.

Titus- Jester/mafioso
Ika- Jester/mafioso
Nicole- Doctor

[Sen]

Will be AFK for a while, will check back later. We lynch RLVG today, but don't rush it; let's wait for people to come with soem leads and see if we catch the other mafia.

[Banshis]

Those deaths are weird idd. It's true, we had 6 townies, that would be 4 deaths (3 town + Jester).

Wtf?

It means we lynched the friendly jester.

[Dagaen]

Can fail-Jester be healed upon suicide?

[RLVG]

I did check Ika to confirm if he was the Evil Jester. Lookout / Detective can confirm.

Repeating.

[Sen]

Also. You're right, must have been the evil jester. Ignore what I said about a janitor. So RLVG is the last mafia. gg.

[NoctiZ]

Oh guys, if we assume that there was no mafia kill this night then glswadow is likely Mafioso as I roleblocked him. Depends on all the investigative results.

[Sen]

@RLVG: You suck, dude. Invest pairings only show "jester", not "Evil/Friendly jester".
Just give up.

[Dagaen]

It means we lynched the friendly jester.

I AM MORON!:D

[Banshis]

I AM MORON!:D

Doctor rolecard says Does Not Heal Suicides.

[Sen]

// bbl. have a nice day.

[RLVG]

@RLVG: You suck, dude. Invest pairings only show "jester", not "Evil/Friendly jester".
Just give up.

Are you nitpicking?

I were checking Ika to confirm if he was the evil Jester, because obviously the Friendly was lynched due to the color.
However, to my discovery he was aligned Jester / Mafioso / Citizen.

[Banshis]

Ok here it goes.

Titus is the mafia. RLVG wouldn't have lied about Titus' pairing unless he was defending Titus.

Nicole is the doctor. You are the amazing doctor who saved Dagaen.

Ika is the jester. Yea.....

[NoctiZ]

Ok here it goes.

Titus is the mafia. RLVG wouldn't have lied about Titus' pairing unless he was defending Titus.

Nicole is the doctor. You are the amazing doctor who saved Dagaen.

Ika is the jester. Yea.....

Also I roleblocked Titus the night Dagaen was healed so further proof. This works out.

[Dagaen]

Ok, here's what happened:

Nicole
Titus
ika

Titus was cooperating with RLVG yesterday. At the beginning of d2 Titus was voting like everyone - NoctiZ, Sen, Glswadow, accused like everybody BUT RLVG. Actually when RLVG was getting voted Titus defended him. He then asked who RLVG visited, after that he could claim Doctor. Titus was Mafia doing Jester play.

RLVG it is.

[Banshis]

Oh guys, if we assume that there was no mafia kill this night then glswadow is likely Mafioso as I roleblocked him. Depends on all the investigative results.

Even if there wasn't a mafia kill there has to be a minimum of 4 deaths to match the suicides.

[RLVG]

Also I roleblocked Titus the night Dagaen was healed so further proof. This works out.


Titus

No. Mafia 2 did Mass Cleaning, we lynched Friendly Jester. We have 1 death spare = Mafia Kill.
OoO, suicide is before Mass Cleaning.

Use your heads.

[Banshis]

Also I roleblocked Titus the night Dagaen was healed so further proof. This works out.

Since RLVG is the janitor he was sent for the kill. Titus knew that she would be role-blocked so why not send the janitor?

[NoctiZ]

Even if there wasn't a mafia kill there has to be a minimum of 4 deaths to match the suicides.

Yes I noticed that.

[Banshis]

Janitor
Clean a target to prevent the town seeing his role and last will
Have 3 cleanings
OR
Mass clean everyone who will die this night(useful if jester got lynched and half of town will suicide)
Have one cleaning
Cannot do both kind of cleaning
Once you clean a single target, you cannot use mass cleaning
Once you use your mass cleaning, you cannot use single cleaning
Single cleaning is a visit to the dead body
Mass cleaning is not a visit

[RLVG]

Nicole
Titus
ika

[Dagaen]

Does anyone agree with that setup?

Janitor - Titus
Mafioso - RVLG
Sheriff - Banshis
Doctor - Nicole
Lookout - Glswadow
Citizen - Dagaen
Investigator - Sen
Escort - NoctiZ
Friendly Jester - Sinclair
Evil Jester - ika

[Banshis]

Does anyone agree with that setup?

Janitor - Titus
Mafioso - RVLG
Sheriff - Banshis
Doctor - Nicole
Lookout - Glswadow
Citizen - Dagaen
Investigator - Sen
Escort - NoctiZ
Friendly Jester - Sinclair
Evil Jester - ika

Switch Titus and RLVG then I agree.

[RLVG]

Lookout - Glswadow

If you did check ika, please confirm that I visited him. This town is too stupid.

[Dagaen]

Switch Titus and RLVG then I agree.

I was attacked n1 when Titus was Rbed. Titus wasn't Mafioso.

[Banshis]

I was attacked n1 when Titus was Rbed. Titus wasn't Mafioso.

We have a janitor. Titus sent the janitor for the kill so we wouldn't know who the second mafia was.

[RLVG]

We have a janitor. Titus sent the janitor for the kill so we wouldn't know who the second mafia was.

Janitor that Mass Cleans can't visit, so I'm waiting for the Lookout to confirm that I visited ika.

[powerofdeath]

Can fail-Jester be healed upon suicide?

No, think about suicide as this
A guy decided to cut his own throat.
A doctor immediately came and sew that throat closed.
The person realized he was still alive so he grabbed a knife and cut his throat again.
The doctor give up and walk away

[Banshis]

Can the mafioso send the secondary mafia out for a kill?

[Dagaen]

Can he do that? I can't seem to find this in setup.

[Banshis]

Can he do that? I can't seem to find this in setup.

That is why I am checking. If so then that means that Titus is actually the jester. So that would make Ika the mafioso.

[Dagaen]

Janitor that Mass Cleans can't visit, so I'm waiting for the Lookout to confirm that I visited ika.

Lookout was roleblocked tonight, you know that.

[RLVG]

Both Nicole and Titus claimed Doctor, one of them jester and the other doctor.
That you can agree on, yes?

Ika did not claim and is the obvious suicide-griefed mafia.

I checked Titus N1 to confirm Doctor, N2 I checked Ika and confirm that he's Mafioso.

1 maf and 1 jester, 100% confirmed dead.

[Dagaen]

It's Sen or RLVG anyway.

[Banshis]

It's Sen or RLVG anyway.

Sen is NS by me so he can't be mafia.

[RLVG]

Lynch me then, I already gave my clues.

[Dagaen]

And Sen says RVLG is Janitor. That means Janitor can be send to killed.

Waiting for host to confirm this.

[powerofdeath]

Can the mafioso send the secondary mafia out for a kill?

If a mafioso send second mafia to kill, that second mafia cannot do his special ability at night

[powerofdeath]

And Sen says RVLG is Janitor. That means Janitor can be send to killed.

Waiting for host to confirm this.

Janitors can be send to kill, but cannot clean at the same time

[Dagaen]

Well. that ruins my setup idea:D

[Banshis]

If a mafioso send second mafia to kill, that second mafia cannot do his special ability at night

Then that adds up. We know the janitor didn't clean on n1. Titus sent the janitor out for the kill. Nicole was killed by the mafia. They went for the actual doctor.

[Dagaen]

Janitor - RVLG
Mafioso - Titus
Sheriff - Banshis
Doctor - Nicole
Lookout - Glswadow
Citizen - Dagaen
Investigator - Sen
Escort - NoctiZ
Friendly Jester - Sinclair
Evil Jester - ika

Ok, so here it is. In my defence, setup should be more clear about such possibility:P

[RLVG]

Sen says I'm Janitor.
Sheriff supports it by saying he's NS.
NoctiZ roleblocked Glshadow, confirming non-Janitor and Non-Mafia.
Dagaen is the only one who can't confirm himself, but due to the chain of events it won't help anything.



Mafioso - ika
Janitor - RLVG
Sheriff - Banshis
Doctor - Nicole
Lookout - Glswadow
Investigator - Sen
Escort - NoctiZ
Citizen - Dagaen
Friendly Jester - Sinclair
Evil Jester - Titus



I don't want to waste my or other's time. This game has been won by the town, fair and square.
Lynch Sen, confirm role, lynch me for CC investigator.

PoD, end this game, please?

Game in favour of town : Sheriff, Doctor, Investigator, Escort + Friendly lynched. Impossible for Maf to win if a Maf is auto-confirm dead.

[Dagaen]

Damn I was wrong about Titus :P GG

RLVG

[Banshis]

Janitor- N1-Attacked Dagaen, N2- Mass Cleaned
Mafioso-N1-Roleblocked, N2- Attacked Nicole
Sheriff-N1-Sen/NS, N2- Nicole/NS
Doctor- N1- Saved Dagaen
Escort- N1- Blocked Titus, N2- Blocked glswadow
Investigator- N1- Titus/citi,maf,jest
Lookout- N1- glswadow/No Visits, N2- Roleblocked
Citizen- N1- Attacked

Jester- Lynched
Jester- Suicided

[NoctiZ]

RLVG

Pity it ended so fast.

[RLVG]

Damn I was wrong about Titus :P GG

RLVG

Instead of voting, let's just end the game. The town has already won.

In fact, why even bother having the game continue?
Sheriff, Escort, Investigator, Citizen, Lookout = 5 town.
How the hell am I suppose to go 1v1?

[Banshis]

RLVG

[powerofdeath]

Rlvg is l-1
Sorry about vote counter

[NoctiZ]

Instead of voting, let's just end the game. The town has already won.

In fact, why even bother having the game continue?
Sheriff, Escort, Investigator, Citizen, Lookout = 5 town.
How the hell am I suppose to go 1v1?
By voting we will end the game. =P

[Banshis]

Instead of voting, let's just end the game. The town has already won.

In fact, why even bother having the game continue?
Sheriff, Escort, Investigator, Citizen, Lookout = 5 town.
How the hell am I suppose to go 1v1?

Yea there was way too many power roles. Invest or lookout should have been a citizen. Escort I don't think was really needed either.

[Sen]

Well, this was easier than expected. gg.

[powerofdeath]

RLVG

RLVG Is lynched!
Please wait

[Dagaen]

I was sure Titus was Mafia pulling Jester play but he was just playing Jester. One WIFOM level deeper than me, dammit.

[powerofdeath]

Sinclair woke up, said goodbye to his wife and his 16 year old son. He was a varsity starter quarterback. He went around faking being a doctor that "healed" Dagaen. He was hoping the real doctor was going to tell everyone he was lying.

Titus woke up, said goodbye to her husband, and her 2 beautiful kids. One of them was 4 years old boy, and another was just born girl.
She have a plan to save her family. She was going to counterclaim a doctor and try her hardest to get the doctor lynched. "Sinclair is not a doctor!" she yelled. Town decided to agree with her, they all started to vote Sinclair up. However they were one vote short. Titus decided that if she hammered the doctor, she would get lynched for sure. She hammered Sinclair.

Sinclair was grabbed, his neck was tied, and he stood on a box. As the mayor pulled the lever, the box fell down. His last breath was a sigh of relief. His wife and his son was saved.

Titus realized that she started a lynch on her enemy! She hammered her enemy. And now her family was going to get killed.

Ika, a professional mafioso, put a silencer in his gun, walked to Nicole's house and shot her in the bathroom. He walked out with no regret. He know what need to be done. He got a called and he was asked to do a task he didnt want to do. His boss told him he had to. Ika sighed. He walked to titus's house. He walked in and titus's husband was standing behind the door. He have a bat and whacked behind Ika's head. Ika fell down, and rolled over. Ika shot Titus's husband 3 times in his chest. Ika slowly stood up. And walked up to his room. He found a young boy playing with his toys. The boy asked him Hi there mister. Would you like with me pwease?" Ika felt disgust. He had to kill such an innocent boy? He couldnt do it. He just couldnt. He shot himself.

Titus was standing outside of her house and saw blood on the window. She knew her family was dead. She sobbed and shot herself.

RLVG was a local janitor. He clean bodies. He walked around. Went to Nicole and took Nicole's doctor equipments, her last will, and made her death look like an accident. He walked to Titus house. Using his mop, he washed Titus. He walked inside Titus house, cleaned the blood on the window. Walked upstair and he was shocked. He saw his buddy dead. He cleaned him.

He walked outside and saw a crowd. "There he is!" A man shouted! "He killed Nicole!" RLVG realized what just happened. "No no no no I was just cleaning her! That was all!" He was grabbed and forced to the town center. He was hanged.

Sinclair's family was sad about Sinclair's and Titus's deaths
They adopted Titus's kids.

The town finally became a peaceful city. The boss made millions from Sinclair's lynching. He retired to Bahamas. He divorced his rich snobby wife and left her to be a hobo.

[ika]

lolz dagean didnt see i tas the masifo faking a bm.

i knew titus was jester when she never fosed me and threw accuations left and right

[ika]

best feedback ver btw


An annoying girl came over to you, threw eggs at your housed, tp your house and left a note on your door. The message was "I thought it was youuuuu!"

[Sen]

Nice ending post. n_n

Were there actually 5 PRs in town?

If that's the case, I'd suggest going with at least 2 forced cits (3 might be better).
I feel it's more balanced when half the players are claiming cit than when everyone is claiming a PR, then someone dies and then the scum can't keep defending their claims.

Another possibility would be 2 jester + 2 mafia + 2 Town PR +3 Cit + 1 Universal Town Backup (who wouldn't know his role until the first PR dies).

Anyway. gg everyone.

[RLVG]

The spoiler is me ranting on the balance of the game.

Game disbalanced.



Sheriff :
- Confirms players NS.

Investigator :
- Confirms the role groups of players.
- Confirming Sheriff confirms the confirmed non-mafia / mafia.

Doctor :
- Prevents Mafia kills, confirms attacked Non-Mafia.

Escort :
- Roleblocks, can prevent a kill and confirms player non-killer.

Lookout :
- Can detect Mafia, confirms non-killers and killers.

Janitor :
- Cleans the role of a player, confirms that a Janitor exists.
- A player may already have been confirmed before the clean anyway.

Mafioso :
- Killer only.

Friendly Jester :
- AUTO-CONFIRM KILL a mafia, leading to 1 mafia left.

Evil Jester :
- Kill half the town, rounded down.

Day Chat :
- Players will eventually pressure and ask for roles, giving clues.
- This in return, causes a Chain of Clues.
- Can deduce contradictions, can fill out the role list.



=
Lynch a Good Jester for Mafia to Auto-Lose
Don't lynch Jester and Mafia eventually is found.
Lynch an Evil Jester and Mafia is found out if Janitor doesn't mass Clean.
Janitor is found if he uses Mass Clean.
- If Janitor mass-cleans, all cleaned roles are confirmed from daychat anyway.

Only possible scenario for Mafia to win is to Janitor-Clean a Jester with Mafia Kill, or that the town griefed by not giving clues.



The game was technically already won by town before the first lynch.



-MVP Titus, she deserves it.

[powerofdeath]

Nice ending post. n_n

Were there actually 5 PRs in town?

If that's the case, I'd suggest going with at least 2 forced cits (3 might be better).
I feel it's more balanced when half the players are claiming cit than when everyone is claiming a PR, then someone dies and then the scum can't keep defending their claims.

Another possibility would be 2 jester + 2 mafia + 2 Town PR +3 Cit + 1 Universal Town Backup (who wouldn't know his role until the first PR dies).

Anyway. gg everyone.

Ah right allow me to explain my huge error
I had dagaen and banshis as citizens. But i realized i forgot sheriff in this. I asked banshis to be sheriff.

[Damus_Graves]

you dont need a sheriff :)

[powerofdeath]

We were supposed to have 4 town power roles

[Banshis]

Ah right allow me to explain my huge error
I had dagaen and banshis as citizens. But i realized i forgot sheriff in this. I asked banshis to be sheriff.

Yup I was a citizen to start for most of the whole day. Then I got recruited by the police department.

[Dagaen]

Well, good thing Titus wasn't lynched. Was so sure she is Mafia, ech.

Also gg Nicole, awesome Doc is awesome^^

[powerofdeath]

you dont need a sheriff :)

But its one of the confirmed role in game
Its needed

[Damus_Graves]

Hint: Changing roles midgame is a huge no-no

[Sen]

@power: Ah, I see. Maybe changing the role of one of the invest roles might have resulted in something a bit more balanced. But yeah, errors happen. It's ok.


you dont need a sheriff :)

Well, he kind of did, since there was a forced sheriff on the setup. d:

[RLVG]

Analyzing the setup, what would have helped a lot would be a witch as a 11th player, town having 2 citizen and mafia having 2 PR which one of them have to sacrifice ability to kill.

[Titus]

I was actually so exhausted of pretending. My provoking people was probably the biggest hint I was a jester. Considering everyone assumed a jester would no lynch, I figured full steam ahead. I had gone through several attempts to get lynched before settling for CCing doctor. Too bad Sinclair was the real jester, not ika. I had a nice will that would have ended the game anyway, so RLVG had to clean.

ika, I wouldn't have FoS you anyway, but I thought PoD put us as opposing jesters. We'd be punished for always gunning at each other.

Sinclair

[Sen]

Analyzing the setup, what would have helped a lot would be a witch as a 11th player, town having 2 citizen and mafia having 2 PR which one of them have to sacrifice ability to kill.

That would leave the game with no killing roles at all. We could simply -skip everyday and let the invest roles check everyone as many times as they want (to avoid misinformation caused by witch). There would be no way for town to lose in that setup.

[Dagaen]

Investigator should be changed to Sheriff I believe. I assume glswadow was really Lookout, so Town had fair share of investigative roles (Escort could also be considered as such).

Obviously Jesters were suppose to balance this thing so no feedback could be 100% confirmed. They just died too fast:D

[ika]

Ah right allow me to explain my huge error
I had dagaen and banshis as citizens. But i realized i forgot sheriff in this. I asked banshis to be sheriff.

my suggestion, if something like that happens again just to a reset of the game and re-roll the cards. i have to agree with RLVG it was pretty muhc mafi screwed in that. our only way to win would be to have the jester continued help us lynch others and act as a block

[Titus]

I had to play to get lynched fast. I always suppose I am getting hit by investigators early no matter what I do. So, yeah, jesters were dying fast in this setup.

[Banshis]

This setup really didn't need the lookout or the escort. Them being pr's is all that got them confirmed town.

[Banshis]

Well the lookout wasn't really confirmed, but someone claiming lookout when they aren't is almost a death sentence.

[Sen]

This setup really didn't need the lookout or the escort. Them being pr's is all that got them confirmed town.

Actually, I thought Glswadow was a citizen playing a PR. His "Hey, lookout here. I checked myself and have no info" claim was weird, at the very least. d:

[Banshis]

Actually, I thought Glswadow was a citizen playing a PR. His "Hey, lookout here. I checked myself and have no info" claim was weird, at the very least. d:

Yea that is why I made the second post there.

[ika]

I was actually so exhausted of pretending. My provoking people was probably the biggest hint I was a jester. Considering everyone assumed a jester would no lynch, I figured full steam ahead. I had gone through several attempts to get lynched before settling for CCing doctor. Too bad Sinclair was the real jester, not ika. I had a nice will that would have ended the game anyway, so RLVG had to clean.

ika, I wouldn't have FoS you anyway, but I thought PoD put us as opposing jesters. We'd be punished for always gunning at each other.

Sinclair

lolz you should just publish the last will here.

but ya titus did more as a jester sinclair basicly said "hurr der im doc"

titus acctaly tried to get things done. sometime the best jester is the one who reveals themselfs and helps the scums. it makes towns more inclined to lynche jesters becasue they become the mafia day voice

-mvp titus

[Banshis]

If RLVG was the one who suicided, then I think this game would have went on for longer. glswadow might have been killed.

[Banshis]

-mvp Titus

I agree. Titus may have been a jester, but Titus ended up getting us to lynch a friendly jester and Titus really helped lead the town even as a jester.

[Sen]

@Ika: Who was your planned target for n2?

[Titus]

Well that was unexpected.

I was the other jester. Nicole, unexpectedly, was likely the real doctor. I really tried my best to be lynched. Those of you who know me know that I've never called anyone an idiot while playing and I make every effort to answer newbie questions. I couldn't start trolling because it would be too obvious and I plainly am terrible at trolling.

I also thought ika was the other jester. It would have been an evil machination on the host's part. Make it so the one guy who you can't lynch is the guy you always find scummy. ika certainly was cooperating in that regard.

Given the fact both jesters are now dead, RLVG should be lynched or have a damn good explanation for lying. I really hope Sen didn't suicide as Sinclair was right. PR's suiciding is bad for the town. Sen might just suicide by if Sinclair was the wrong jester.

I had many attempts that failed to get myself lynched.

1) Lynch a townie. Duh, obvious here. Sorry NoctiZ. You were kinda picked at random.
2) Be scummy in chat by rolefishing. Well, the rolefishing worked. Yet, no one called me out on rolefishing.
3) Discredit everyone by crying jester.
4) If all else fails, counterclaim sheriff/doctor, whichever is more likely to get me lynched.
5) Get really frustrated and angry for the town for not going along with my mislynches.

Of course, by night three I figured I'd get checked by Banshis due to all the chaos. I'd have to get lynched fast. I figured this is where I would fail. The sheriff would check me and it would be game over.

The last thing I expected was the first claimer to be jester. I was actually expecting to lynch the real doctor.

RLVG - Mafia [He lied about my investigative pairing and their cannot be another jester.
??? - Mafia ( I like Raptorblaze here) {Probably should have put ika here, had my games mixed up}
Jesters - Both dead
NocitZ - likely escort
Sen - Honest Investigator
glwadow - Lookout
Nicole - Doctor (can't imagine a setup without doctor)
D - Citizen

MVP Sinclair, regardless of how this turns out. His death confirms at least one mafia.

I apologize Sen if I made any part of this not fun. Usually, I'm not such a pain in games.

Cheerio!

That was my will that would have been displayed had it not been cleaned.

[Sen]

I apologize Sen if I made any part of this not fun. Usually, I'm not such a pain in games.

Oh, don't apologize; I was having a lot of fun when everyone was believing you. You even made me play the -suicide threat card and make that pseudo compilation which only purpose was to discredit you.

Btw. i'm voting you for MVP. (:

MVP: Titus

[RLVG]

If RLVG was the one who suicided, then I think this game would have went on for longer. glswadow might have been killed.

Janitor is shown as dead, Janitor wouldn't be able to Mass-Clean due to OoO suicide before M-Clean.
glswadow already roleblocked.

Ika faked BM'd. Ika had a "more likely Jester" look on him.
The death of a friendly Jester, it would always lead to this : 1 confirmed Mafia and 1 Confirmed Jester in graveyard.

[ika]

@Ika: Who was your planned target for n2?

n2 rlvg suggested nicole and i was like whatever becasue a jester got lynched

[RLVG]

n2 rlvg suggested nicole and i was like whatever becasue a jester got lynched

Sinclair claimed healing Dagaen after D had claimed healed.
Nicole came and claimed to be the one healing D.
Sinclair lynched, Jester.
Nicole is the real doctor.

Better to kill a confirmed town and clean, so that I can keep true about "Titus' Doctor Claim"

[Dagaen]

Well, with all due respect to Titus, lynching opposing Jester while behaving like mafia/jester isn't my idea of mvp:D Sure, it made town win, but it wasn't on purpose.

Frankly I have no idea who to vote, so maybe:

-mvp Nicole

It gave us another free night so why not? I also liked Sen's play and detailed analysis.

[Banshis]

Sinclair claimed healing Dagaen after D had claimed healed.
Nicole came and claimed to be the one healing D.
Sinclair lynched, Jester.
Nicole is the real doctor.

Better to kill a confirmed town and clean, so that I can keep true about "Titus' Doctor Claim"

You should have tried to kill Sen and cleaned. I would have thought he was the jester that died.

[Titus]

I think the OoO could use some changes too. Lookout sees Jesters, more citizens and Mass Clean occurs after suicides. That way, mass clean only fails to occur if janitor suicides.

@Banshis, in other words I am the world's most honest jester. xD I mean Doctor. I mean whatever.

[Titus]

Well, with all due respect to Titus, lynching opposing Jester while behaving like mafia/jester isn't my idea of mvp:D Sure, it made town win, but it wasn't on purpose.

Frankly I have no idea who to vote, so maybe:

-mvp Nicole

It gave us another free night so why not? I also liked Sen's play and detailed analysis.

I figured Sinclair was the best. No one really suspected he was jester and did the best for his assigned win condition. Not bad at all there.

[RLVG]

You should have tried to kill Sen and cleaned. I would have thought he was the jester that died.

I already claimed Invest, so the Sheriff had to pick either me or him. Was there any point?
The fact that both Titus and Ika died, it could be deduced that both of them is a Maf/Jest anyway.

[ika]

I figured Sinclair was the best. No one really suspected he was jester and did the best for his assigned win condition. Not bad at all there.

i love playing afk jester as well but in fms i think sometimes the best jester is the one what just derails everything and become dubious.

[NoctiZ]

That was pretty close on day 1, nearly got lynched which I found quite amusing to be honest.

I always had the feeling of manipulation from you Titus and well, guess I was kinda right? Atleast I was able to spot one of your posts that made you look like Jester, everything else made you look Mafia in my eyes so if I hadn't known better maybe you would have been lynched a bit later. The direction the game was headed to didn't allow that though.

I will vote you as the MVP because you clearly tried several ways to seem scummy and never slipped up too big, your claims were more or less believable throughout the game.

-MVP Titus

[Sinclair]

BTW I'm not saying I deserve MVP (I dont care either way) but isn't the jester supposed to say hurr durr I'm this role?

I did do my job and get lynched :p

-mvp Titus

[ika]

BTW I'm not saying I deserve MVP (I dont care either way) but isn't the jester supposed to say hurr durr I'm this role?

I did do my job and get lynched :p

-mvp Titus

you did win and play to goal objective its just titus was more active in trying to get lynched and derail. it was more that you just said im doc and left. its a good strat and got you a win for it so its a win there

[Sinclair]

you did win and play to goal objective its just titus was more active in trying to get lynched and derail. it was more that you just said im doc and left. its a good strat and got you a win for it so its a win there

lawl I said I'm doc and left?

Hah.

Did you even read the thread yesterday?!

[ika]

lawl I said I'm doc and left?

Hah.

Did you even read the thread yesterday?!

yesterday? yesterday you were dead and i commited sucide and RLVG killed doc XD

[RLVG]

Since the game was disbalanced, rolechange midgame and was finished so quick, is there a possibility of a remake?

Just asking.

[powerofdeath]

Since the game was disbalanced, rolechange midgame and was finished so quick, is there a possibility of a remake?

Just asking.

We could, but Im in middle of making a new SFM
I hope that i will try do better at hosting next time.
I am sorry for any inconveniences.

[Titus]

Well someone other than Powerofdeath could steal his idea and rehost it.

[Poriomania]

What? This game ended? I can't even get what happened just by reading the last few pages of the game.

I apologize for replacing out.

[powerofdeath]

What? This game ended? I can't even get what happened just by reading the last few pages of the game.

I apologize for replacing out.

Town almost lynched noctiz the escort day 1
No1 died n1
Town lynched friendly jester day 2
Ika suicided because hes mafia
Titus suicided because she failed as jester
Nicole got hit as a doctor
Rlvg massed cleaned
Rlvg got lynched day 3

[Poriomania]

Mmm, thanks.

Wonder what would happen if I didn't replace out...

I quasi-bussed ika Day 1 with my post. Hey, I got Taekyon with it in High School too.

[Titus]

Mmm, thanks.

Wonder what would happen if I didn't replace out...

I quasi-bussed ika Day 1 with my post. Hey, I got Taekyon with it in High School too.

Maybe you would have lynched me. :) Gah, so hard to play jester when it requires such a major deviation from my usual self.

[ika]

Maybe you would have lynched me. :) Gah, so hard to play jester when it requires such a major deviation from my usual self.

nah jester isnt too hard. its all about how you play it. sometimes its better to be a obvious jester who just helps all the scums so the town gets annoyed and wants to lynch you

[Titus]

nah jester isnt too hard. its all about how you play it. sometimes its better to be a obvious jester who just helps all the scums so the town gets annoyed and wants to lynch you

I tried that. LOL No one called me out on the rolefishing at all.

[ika]

I tried that. LOL No one called me out on the rolefishing at all.

i didnt becasue i didnt care as a mafia. what i was talking about is be like "im jester, mafia heres what you should do." or be like you were with nicole when she claimed jester and you said she was lookout things like that makes town annoyed when you help the scums like that. i think rolefishing in this one was not helpful...

[Titus]

i didnt becasue i didnt care as a mafia. what i was talking about is be like "im jester, mafia heres what you should do." or be like you were with nicole when she claimed jester and you said she was lookout things like that makes town annoyed when you help the scums like that. i think rolefishing in this one was not helpful...

Claiming it is an interesting strategy I'll have to keep in mind for next time.

[Nick]

Rolefishing is asking whom they visited?

1) Calling out jester suspects as TPR means that you want them dead with a borrowed knife (Nicole).
2) Calling out TPR claimers as jester means that you are discrediting them (Sen), somewhat less likely to WIFOM protect them (???)

But I think game is too short for 1 and 2 to work.

[Titus]

Rolefishing is asking whom they visited?

1) Calling out jester suspects as TPR means that you want them dead with a borrowed knife (Nicole).
2) Calling out TPR claimers as jester means that you are discrediting them (Sen), somewhat less likely to WIFOM protect them (???)

But I think game is too short for 1 and 2 to work.

Rolefishing is trying to out Town Protective Roles. Asking who people visited naturally leads to claiming. Ex: Why did you visit this person over that one?

[powerofdeath]

With 6 votes Titus is awarded MVP!
Result:
Titus, ika, and RLVG defeat
Porio was replaced
Everyone else win