S-FM 51: Civil War

[Espozito]

Alright, wanna make my own list too

Town:

Lookout - MintBerry Crunch (as killed by red town)
Veteran - AppleyNO (he claimed bus-driven vet and there were 2 kills by green town, so that seems legit)
Vigilante - creedkingsx
? - Espozito
Bus Driver - Thedark...
? - ? (RLVG/SuperJack)
? - ? (RLVG/SuperJack)


Town:

? - Bunny
? - Fajer (mr "I don't know what to say") or SuperJack or RLVG
Bus Driver - Fatalis


I am sorry, but here are my reasons about suspecting these people:

1. Bunny is participating much, but her sudden accusion of Thedarkestlight confuses me

whats your role?
Out of sudden she starts pressuring Thedarkestlight and forces the whole town to lynch him as fast as possible as there is the "Last Chance" to succeed in it. I smell the myslynch.
Also, Bunny, you want people to reveal their roles as

holding this information back is hurting town.
What about you then? You don't eager to reveal yourself either, so I should ask for your role too. Eye for an eye.

I suspect Fajer to be mafia (or red town, nvm, can't keep coloring the same word in red and green) because he seldom appears in game (ok, I'm worse but I participate) and claims that he has "nothing to say". At least he could participate.
I don't see anyone supporting Bunny's possible mislynch. That can be explained either that most of the players are afk right now OR her mafia members/member is afk, wich leaves SuperJack and RLVG as possible mafia member.

Now let's analyse the next version of Fatalis being red and Thedark being green BD:

Bunny - bussed
Fatalis (BD) - killed by green n red
creed (Vig) - killed by green

creed wants to shoot AppleyNO suspecting him being mafia, Appley goes on alert and creed dies by green - clear
Fatalis switches Appley with Bunny as he wants to protect mafia buddy PLUS Appley was on creed's FoS earlier and swapping Appley with maf Bunny would frame Appley in case some Inv (if there is one) checks Appley, but gets killed by green, Bunny is not switched - clear

[Espozito]

Bunny

Stated upper

[Bunny]

Alright, wanna make my own list too

Town:

Lookout - MintBerry Crunch (as killed by red town)
Veteran - AppleyNO (he claimed bus-driven vet and there were 2 kills by green town, so that seems legit)
Vigilante - creedkingsx
? - Espozito
Bus Driver - Thedark...
? - ? (RLVG/SuperJack)
? - ? (RLVG/SuperJack)


Town:

? - Bunny
? - Fajer (mr "I don't know what to say") or SuperJack or RLVG
Bus Driver - Fatalis


I am sorry, but here are my reasons about suspecting these people:

1. Bunny is participating much, but her sudden accusion of Thedarkestlight confuses me

Out of sudden she starts pressuring Thedarkestlight and forces the whole town to lynch him as fast as possible as there is the "Last Chance" to succeed in it. I smell the myslynch.
Also, Bunny, you want people to reveal their roles as

What about you then? You don't eager to reveal yourself either, so I should ask for your role too. Eye for an eye.

I suspect Fajer to be mafia (or red town, nvm, can't keep coloring the same word in red and green) because he seldom appears in game (ok, I'm worse but I participate) and claims that he has "nothing to say". At least he could participate.
I don't see anyone supporting Bunny's possible mislynch. That can be explained either that most of the players are afk right now OR her mafia members/member is afk, wich leaves SuperJack and RLVG as possible mafia member.

Now let's analyse the next version of Fatalis being red and Thedark being green BD:

Bunny - bussed
Fatalis (BD) - killed by green n red
creed (Vig) - killed by green

creed wants to shoot AppleyNO suspecting him being mafia, Appley goes on alert and creed dies by green - clear
Fatalis switches Appley with Bunny as he wants to protect mafia buddy PLUS Appley was on creed's FoS earlier and swapping Appley with maf Bunny would frame Appley in case some Inv (if there is one) checks Appley, but gets killed by green, Bunny is not switched - clear

I never said my role because no one asked me. I am investigator, I was curious about Thedarkestlight because he came up as bus driver and a bus driver died. He claimed his role so there was no need for me to say mine.

What is your role Espozito???

TO the rest of town, I really think we need to lynch Thedarkestlight or Espozito today.

[Espozito]

I never said my role because no one asked me. I am investigator, I was curious about Thedarkestlight because he came up as bus driver and a bus driver died. He claimed his role so there was no need for me to say mine.

What is your role Espozito???

TO the rest of town, I really think we need to lynch Thedarkestlight or Espozito today.

Hm, alright, I claim my role then too. As promised, "Eye for an eye".
Citizen. Simple. And I mean the real Setup-stated green Citizen. (well, I can't know if I'm the stated one or the Hidden, but the only thing I'm sure is I'm Green). Also that is not the part when I claim Citizen and mean some PR that is important for Town. I mean the Citizen for real. Green Citizen.
I can have my hand cut off to prove it (just a phrase).

I just don't know why would GREEN Fatalis swap somebody with Appley - accused-by-green-creed person. If Appley was green and Fatalis was green, he would see that there is something fishy about Appley and there is no point to swap the accused guy as that would only be worse for green town.
Swapping the known-by-red green Appley with known-by-red red would be much more effective for mafia to frame green Appley.
That's from my point of view.
For example, can YOU explain why on earth would "green" Fatalis swap Appley?

[RLVG]

creed wants to shoot AppleyNO suspecting him being mafia, Appley goes on alert and creed dies by green - clear
Fatalis switches Appley with Bunny as he wants to protect mafia buddy PLUS Appley was on creed's FoS earlier and swapping Appley with maf Bunny would frame Appley in case some Inv (if there is one) checks Appley, but gets killed by green, Bunny is not switched - clear

This actually makes sence, although there's a possibility of this being wrong. I'll go with the theory, for now.




I never said my role because no one asked me. I am investigator, I was curious about Thedarkestlight because he came up as bus driver and a bus driver died. He claimed his role so there was no need for me to say mine.

What is your role Espozito???

TO the rest of town, I really think we need to lynch Thedarkestlight or Espozito today.

An investigator with just one clue? I believe there has been two nights, unless I'm mistaken.

[Bunny]

This actually makes sence, although there's a possibility of this being wrong. I'll go with the theory, for now.



An investigator with just one clue? I believe there has been two nights, unless I'm mistaken.


yes, i checked creed, which is a tad irrelevant now.

[RLVG]

yes, i checked creed, which is a tad irrelevant now.

You've revealed investigator, checked Creed at what night?

[Bunny]

You've revealed investigator, checked Creed at what night?

the night before. then last night i checked thedarkestlight.

[RLVG]

For example, can YOU explain why on earth would "green" Fatalis swap Appley?

The only theory I can bring, would be switching Creed & Appley as either of them are capable of killing the other.




the night before. then last night i checked thedarkestlight.

Curious, why creed over appley?

[Espozito]

yes, i checked creed, which is a tad irrelevant now.

Hm... Investigator who has checked only revealed guys... I'll keep my vote on this one.

[Bunny]

The only theory I can bring, would be switching Creed & Appley as either of them are capable of killing the other.



Curious, why creed over appley?

because i forgot appely was even in the game when i made my choice.

[Bunny]

Hm... Investigator who has checked only revealed guys... I'll keep my vote on this one.

duurrr.. why do you think i was pushing the vote on Thedarkestlight...

[RLVG]

because i forgot appely was even in the game when i made my choice.

Creed were just as scummy as Appley becausse they argued with eachothers for the same reason.

You're telling me that you randomly invested Creed, oblivious to the certain fact of war?
While staying on the fact that you've only picked targets that are dead?



Which is why Appley didn't kill me.


Which is why creed didn't kill me.

Come on creed, your argument is false because it can just be flipped back onto you.


Bunny

[Espozito]

The only theory I can bring, would be switching Creed & Appley as either of them are capable of killing the other.


Well, let's try to find the point in that. creed was acting like a real Town Leader and he accused Appley.
Yeah, I think that makes sense. But these clues from Bunny are just pointless for her defence as both her targets revealed / have been revealed


Curious, why creed over appley?

Yeah. Again, creed worked as Town Leader and checking him is rather mafia move, to know with whom they are dealing.
...
WAIT!
What if on n1 red inv Bunny checked creed and found he is Vigilante.
The next night they know that creed was against Appley and they predicted that creed could have targeted Appley. Without knowing who Appley is, Mafia decides to make a double kill: they (Fatalis) swap Appley with creed to make creed shoot himself and attack the other player to make double kill!
And, of course, mafia didn't expect Appley to be vet, so Vigi gets shot by himself, swapped with Appley, and Fatalis is killed by vet!

[Bunny]

Creed were just as scummy as Appley becausse they argued with eachothers for the same reason.

You're telling me that you randomly invested Creed, oblivious to the certain fact of war?
While staying on the fact that you've only picked targets that are dead?







Bunny


i checked creed before they were arguing...

[RLVG]

i checked creed before they were arguing...

What I'm trying to say is, why TheDarkestLight instead of AppleyNo?

[RLVG]

And yeah, I made a small mistake about the timestamp of the arguement, so I've moved over to questioning why TDL instead of AN. :p

Even for the mistake, you have given attention to it - with Creed already invested, it's only funny why not check Appley too for confirming each of them.

[Espozito]

i checked creed before they were arguing...

But the plan to make creed shoot himself swapping him with Appley could be after, on night 2.

My thoughts for now are:

Bunny - red inv,
Fatalis - red BD
Fajer - red townie. For this one I have another theory: third red town is a red Citizen who picked this role, firstly, to have defence, secondly, to have an opportunity to perform a night kill (Citizen has no night actions so he loses nothing).

I won't be surprised if Fajer or SuperJack claims Citizen.

[Espozito]

And yeah, I made a small mistake about the timestamp of the arguement, so I've moved over to questioning why TDL instead of AN. :p

Even for the mistake, you have given attention to it - with Creed already invested, it's only funny why not check Appley too for confirming each of them.

Good point! If creed has shown up as Vigilante then the other arguer should have been checked to get their pointless discussing about who of them is red, over.

For now I can only say that I trust Appley, as all the thories make him appear as green veteran.

[Espozito]

EDIT: theories

[Bunny]

And yeah, I made a small mistake about the timestamp of the arguement, so I've moved over to questioning why TDL instead of AN. :p

Even for the mistake, you have given attention to it - with Creed already invested, it's only funny why not check Appley too for confirming each of them.

oh ok lol
because i though creed's argument was stupid and wanted to check someone i haven't seen play before. I generally have a good intuition. Anywho, my thoughts are still pointing to espozito, thedarkestlight and also you rlvg. I'm guessing you 3 are all scum and espozitos long plan he explained is likely what you 3 were trying to do all along.. I also think its very scummy and try and lynch an investigator instead of a duplicate BD.

Thedarkestlight: red bd
Espotzito: ???
RLVG: ???

Bunny: Green Investigator
Appely: Green Vet
Creed: Vig
Fatalis: Green BD
Fajer: cit/coroner
Jack: cit/coroner

[Espozito]

oh ok lol
because i though creed's argument was stupid and wanted to check someone i haven't seen play before. I generally have a good intuition. Anywho, my thoughts are still pointing to espozito, thedarkestlight and also you rlvg. I'm guessing you 3 are all scum and espozitos long plan he explained is likely what you 3 were trying to do all along.. I also think its very scummy and try and lynch an investigator instead of a duplicate BD.

Thedarkestlight: red bd
Espotzito: ???
RLVG: ???

Bunny: Green Investigator
Appely: Green Vet
Creed: Vig
Fatalis: Green BD
Fajer: cit/coroner
Jack: cit/coroner

And you trying to lynch active player instead of lurking Fajer is not scummy at all, huh.

[RLVG]

I also think its very scummy and try and lynch an investigator instead of a duplicate BD.

An investigator who could've been a consigliere, seeing that you've only checked Creed N1 to die N2 and that you've invested someone who did not provoke to be invested other then meta.

Since Vigi can't be picked by red town, it's kind of anti-town not to pick sides in the arguement that occured.

[Bunny]

And you trying to lynch active player instead of lurking Fajer is not scummy at all, huh.

you wouldnt be surprised if someone else claimed citizen because you know there is another citizen. Your guys' logic is failing, you're making scum slips.

lurker DOES NOT equal scum to me. you, rlvg and thedarkestlight does equal scum to me. One of you must be lynched today

[Bunny]

An investigator who could've been a consigliere, seeing that you've only checked Creed N1 to die N2 and that you've invested someone who did not provoke to be invested other then meta.

Since Vigi can't be picked by red town, it's kind of anti-town not to pick sides in the arguement that occured.

since there is an opportunity in the game for vets, i was very careful who i checked.

[Bunny]

whats your roel RLVG?

[RLVG]

since there is an opportunity in the game for vets, i was very careful who i checked.

You knew Appley were a veteran already?

[Bunny]

You knew Appley were a veteran already?

no but i thought it was a possibility and din't wanna chance it. Also since i knew creed was vig, if he was serious about Appely i assumed he would shoot him.
Creed was vigi and killed by green town, if i was red town he would have been killed n2 by red town

[RLVG]

if i was red town he would have been killed n2 by red town

Instead of using a red bus.

[Bunny]

Instead of using a red bus.

i think red town would have just out right shot a confirmed vigi. but they didn't know because i'm a green invest.

[Bunny]

also rlvg, you're avoiding saying a role

[Espozito]

no but i thought it was a possibility and din't wanna chance it. Also since i knew creed was vig, if he was serious about Appely i assumed he would shoot him.
Creed was vigi and killed by green town, if i was red town he would have been killed n2 by red town

Excellent idea to use a red BD to make that possible.

[Espozito]

also rlvg, you're avoiding saying a role

Well, the only reasonable thing. RLVG, if you please, reveal too.

[Fajer]

1: i try to participate but im new to the sc2mafia(the sait games) so i dont know what to say to be unsuspicous as i don't have any information.
2: my role is citizen and nothing has ever happened to me in this game yet
3: i think bunny is a town as he is to active deciding roles.
-vote bunny

[RLVG]

Well, the only reasonable thing. RLVG, if you please, reveal too.

May I have permission to reveal tommorrow included all my clues?
I'll gurantee that I will reveal, so Bunny may investigate another instead of investigating me when I'm going to reveal anyway.


-vote bunny

You don't "-Vote X" with color, you use {Vote]X{/vote] - { being a [.

Interesting to claim Citizen, I might lean to that being true.

[RLVG]

so Bunny may investigate another instead of investigating me

That is, if we decide to lynch another.

[Bunny]

1: i try to participate but im new to the sc2mafia(the sait games) so i dont know what to say to be unsuspicous as i don't have any information.
2: my role is citizen and nothing has ever happened to me in this game yet
3: i think bunny is a town as he is to active deciding roles.
-vote bunny

im a SHE but thanks.

[Bunny]

1: i try to participate but im new to the sc2mafia(the sait games) so i dont know what to say to be unsuspicous as i don't have any information.
2: my role is citizen and nothing has ever happened to me in this game yet
3: i think bunny is a town as he is to active deciding roles.
-vote bunny

Also you are aware that the others who have voted me are both red town and If their third red town member comes on and votes me yu may as well have lost it for town. You're being fooled by them.

[RLVG]

Also you are aware that the others who have voted me are both red town and If their third red town member comes on and votes me yu may as well have lost it for town. You're being fooled by them.

Arren't you manipulative?
How are you certain that both are red, instead of "at least 1"? That's what I would've worded instead of.

[Bunny]

Arren't you manipulative?
How are you certain that both are red, instead of "at least 1"? That's what I would've worded instead of.

Because I can see you two workin off each other. I'm not stupid. And I would say you and Espozito are being a lot more manipulative than I am..

[Fajer]

sorry bunny i tend to do many mistakes :)
i think she is red town as she is so certain of what's what.
{Vote]bunny{/vote]

[RLVG]

{Vote]bunny{/vote]

Dude, I explained { = [. :p

[Bunny]

sorry bunny i tend to do many mistakes :)
i think she is red town as she is so certain of what's what.
{Vote]bunny{/vote]

It's unfortunate that your inexperience is causing the wool to pulled over your eyes.

[Fajer]

shit i did it again -.-

and bunny we know you are not srupid but do not expect us to be.
the only thing that you do is defending yourself and looking for faults in other player that already is a bit "framed"

I am a newbie why isnt my vote working??:$

[Fajer]

oh didnt see :D
bunny

[Bunny]

shit i did it again -.-

and bunny we know you are not srupid but do not expect us to be.
the only thing that you do is defending yourself and looking for faults in other player that already is a bit "framed"

I am a newbie why isnt my vote working??:$

My thoughts:

Red Town:
Thedarkestlight - bus driver
Espozito: unknown
RLVG: unknown

Green Town:
Bunny: Investigator
AppelyNO: veteran
Superjack: Coroner
Fajer: Citizen

If i get lynched, red town basically wins, they wont target appely as they know he is vet, they dont have to worry about being bus driven as the green bus driver, Fatalis is already dead. I'm guessing they would try and kill Superjack. If instead we don't lynch anyone or lynch the duplicate bus driver we have more of a chance of confirming what Espozito or RLVG are.

[Cryptonic]

Current Vote Tally:

Bunny {3} - Espozito, RLVG, Fajer
TheDarkestLight {1} - Bunny

Four {4} votes are needed to lynch!
Bunny is L-1!

[Fajer]

is it possible that we dont lynch today?!
I just went way back in posts and i'm getting more and more confused.
this is what i think:

RLVG says he has clues and knows stuff but needs proof and therefore doesent want to reveal his role. if he really is invest i want his information now as it will be harder to convince all town next day. IF he is town he is only saving time to gain advantige and town will probally loose. (notice that he voted bunny which means either bunny or RLVG is town)

Bunny claims also invest and has a target which is thedarkestlight and claims he is the bus driver fortown. it seems legit but can be wrong. if i am to trust her i would ask of who you targeted else than thedarkestlight and what info you have.

personally im standing in the middle between theese two and if RLVG is town then i think(not sure) espozito and thedarkestlight is alsotown.

[Fajer]

unvote

i will wait untill i have answers

[RLVG]

Fine, I'll claim so you don't think of me as an investigator but I'm almost guranteed to be killed now.

I'm a doctor.

N1 I healed Espo, N2 I healed Super.
Now that I've claimed, it's pointless to investigate me unless you really want to confirm my role.

1. Doctor
2. Coroner
3. Lookout
4. Investigator
5. Bus Driver


Doctor to prevent kills
Coroner to find out who are who, who they targeted
Lookout is more powerfull then detective, able to get clues on everyone that visited target.
Investigator will most likely be on #1 for everyone so I'll put it low but still in the list
Bus driver to redirect kills of the mafia to themselves

Escort could prevent the town from working, Bodyguard will still sacrifice himself so by late game it's more destructive then early on, Mafia will have a veteran so having a 2nd veteran is too destructive. detective can only gain a clue one at a time.

[Bunny]

Fine, I'll claim so you don't think of me as an investigator but I'm almost guranteed to be killed now.

I'm a doctor.

N1 I healed Espo, N2 I healed Super.
Now that I've claimed, it's pointless to investigate me unless you really want to confirm my role.

1. Doctor
2. Coroner
3. Lookout
4. Investigator
5. Bus Driver


Doctor to prevent kills
Coroner to find out who are who, who they targeted
Lookout is more powerfull then detective, able to get clues on everyone that visited target.
Investigator will most likely be on #1 for everyone so I'll put it low but still in the list
Bus driver to redirect kills of the mafia to themselves

Escort could prevent the town from working, Bodyguard will still sacrifice himself so by late game it's more destructive then early on, Mafia will have a veteran so having a 2nd veteran is too destructive. detective can only gain a clue one at a time.

ok so you say that everyone put investigator high on their list (which is obvious) but you accuse me of being red town without an investigator counter claiming? remove your vote off me or you are 100% confirmed scum for contradicting yourself and trying to lynch town

[Bunny]

and with appley and creed's list, they said they didn't put doctor on their lists at all.
i highly doubt there is a doctor on green town.

RLVG is just full of scum slips today

[RLVG]

ok so you say that everyone put investigator high on their list (which is obvious) but you accuse me of being red town without an investigator counter claiming? remove your vote off me or you are 100% confirmed scum for contradicting yourself and trying to lynch town

Oh the average SC2Maf excuse. "Guilty voters are ze mafia".


RLVG is just full of scum slips today

All "scum slips" are related to you, lol.

[Bunny]

wow you don't even read my post. you are contradicting yourself really badly.

you say that most town members put investigator high on their lists, and they most likely did. therefore, green town has to have an investigator. nobody else is claiming investigator, so that proves that i'm green town investigator. do you not see how your logic sucks?

now remove your vote


you guys aren't thinking right
it's either 4v3 or 5v2
if we lynch TheDarkestLight it will be 3v2 tomorrow no matter if he's red or green. this is the BEST situation we can be in. if you don't vote for TDL (or even question him for that matter....) then you just confirm that BOTH of you are scum.

but look, i'm trying to convince red town. superjack, appley and fajer need to come on and vote for thedarkestlight, because you guys obviously won't.

you three being buddy-buddy is super obvious and i am surprised that green town isn't seeing it.

[RLVG]

you say that most town members put investigator high on their lists, and they most likely did. therefore, green town has to have an investigator. nobody else is claiming investigator, so that proves that i'm green town investigator. do you not see how your logic sucks?

You didn't pay attention : You invested a vigilante and he dies the next day.[/QUOTE]


now remove your vote

I would say that as well if I was mass voted, anyone would.


if we lynch TheDarkestLight it will be 3v2 tomorrow no matter if he's red or green. this is the BEST situation we can be in.

We got a veteran. "Best" doesn't sound reasonable.


if you don't vote for TDL (or even question him for that matter....) then you just confirm that BOTH of you are scum.

What if everyone questions you instead?

[Bunny]

I am the Town Bus Driver. I bussed you and Fatalis last night. Which means that Fatalis was the Town Bus Driver, and I caused the Maf to hit him instead of you.

argue with this you dolt.
tdl said he bussed me with fatalis and fatalis died from red town
that means red town attacked me? meaning i'm not red town....

now stop being morons

[Bunny]

lol i invested a vigilante and he shot himself the next day, i must be red town

you guys are so scummy and contradict eachother and yourselves it's pathetic

[Bunny]

can red town attack their own members?

[Cryptonic]

can red town attack their own members?

No, red town can only target green town.

[RLVG]

argue with this you dolt.
tdl said he bussed me with fatalis and fatalis died from red town
that means red town attacked me? meaning i'm not red town....

now stop being morons

Hmm. It doesn't specify that.

creedkingsx was found dead this morning. He was killed by the Green Town.
His role was Vigilante.
Fatalis was found dead this morning. He was killed by the Green Town, and then attacked again by the Red Town.
His role was Bus Driver

Creed tried to shoot Appley who claimed Veteran, they were bantering / arguing eachothers the whole day.
The bus driver got killed by the veteran, and the mafia.

There's two bus drivers.

Fatal/Bunny switched, Fatal dies to Veteran so he wouldn't switch if I understand bus mechanics correctly.



We don't know if the bus driver that's dead is in fact Town or Town.
The only thing it confirms, is that Appley is a Town Veteran.




lol i invested a vigilante and he shot himself the next day, i must be red town

you guys are so scummy and contradict eachother and yourselves it's pathetic

Night chat, and he didn't shoot himself.

[Bunny]

i was swapped with fatalis and fatalis died to red town
that makes me green town
how do you not get this?

appley said he was bussed, so i think bussing works on alerting veterans

can veterans on alert be bussed?

[Cryptonic]

can veterans on alert be bussed?


Yes, it follows the same mechanics used in SC2Mafia.
The Bus Driver will swap the Veteran and then be attacked by the Veteran.

[Bunny]

so that proves that creed shot himself.
you keeping your vote on me regardless just proves you are scum.

[Bunny]

also, fatalis isn't the one that bussed me, so it doesn't matter if his bus went through or not.

by your logic, if i am red town then TheDarkestLight HAS to be red town with me and is lying to cover this fact. why don't you vote for TDL?

[Bunny]

RLVG , why are you so certain that I am scum when all signs say I am green town, but refuse to even suspect tdl of being red town?
red town is so obvious, and green town is so dumb.

seriously lynching thedarkestlight is the best bet for green town. it makes it 3v2 tomorrow regardless.
if we misslynch somebody else, we lose. not voting for tdl make you confirmed scum.
so everyone vote for him.

[RLVG]

Yes, it follows the same mechanics used in SC2Mafia.
The Bus Driver will swap the Veteran and then be attacked by the Veteran.

Bus Drivers are fucking confusing, and I can never learn about them properly. :p

If a Veteran is switched with an idle player, will the alert consume the one who are idle?
Will the one switched be killed by the veteran regardless of who the victim targets?
Example : Vigilante and Veteran are switched, Vigilante doesn't shoot anyone and get killed by the Veteran.

This is probably the last bus driver question you'll receive.


seriously lynching thedarkestlight is the best bet for green town. it makes it 3v2 tomorrow regardless.

And if the "enemy faction" has a Veteran?

[Cryptonic]

If a Veteran is switched with an idle player, will the alert consume the one who are idle?

Will the one switched be killed by the veteran regardless of who the victim targets?



No, the alert will kill the bus driver. In addition, anyone who targeted the other Bus Driven target will instead target the Veteran, dying. The other bus driven target will not die from the Veteran.

[Bunny]

And if the "enemy faction" has a Veteran?

Then we don't use night actions tonight? almost everyone has claimed a role, and i think you and me are the only 2 people that can target other people, if you are a doctor. so this isn't a problem, no one would die from veteran tonight.

[Bunny]

so vote thedarkestlight
this is the best situation for green town.
keeping your vote on me just makes you a target to be lynched.... i am proven green town.

[RLVG]

RLVG , why are you so certain that I am scum when all signs say I am green town, but refuse to even suspect tdl of being red town?

Actually, it's because of how fucked up bus driver mechanics are.
I'm rather stubborn unless I learn of every fact including loopholes.

I'm convinced you're town.
unvote


No, the alert will kill the bus driver. In addition, anyone who targeted the other Bus Driven target will instead target the Veteran, dying. The other bus driven target will not die from the Veteran.

Creed did shoot someone 100%, may it be the veteran (shot self) or the BD (killed by shooting veteran)


Then we don't use night actions tonight? almost everyone has claimed a role, and i think you and me are the only 2 people that can target other people, if you are a doctor. so this isn't a problem, no one would die from veteran tonight.

Is that a subliminal message that you wish to be healed?

[Bunny]

sure, heal me. tdl can't swap me with a veteran without killing himself.
but if we don't lynch a red town today this game could be over.

i hoping people see why lynching tdl is the best bet for green town before the day ends :[

[RLVG]

17 Hours Ago
"Day Three ends in approximately 21.5 hours."

Do the math how much left we got.

[Bunny]

mm if scum managed to get a second citizen in, then superjack might also be a citizen?
i think all citizens should vest tonight if they still have them.


and i think it's in 3 and a half hours, because it's usually 6-6:30 my time.

[Bunny]

loool i think crypt screwed up

[Fajer]

lol nice.
i feel pretty good about myself now.
ill vote TDL and if he is town we know who to trust.
i hope you belive me as a citizen and i know i seem a bit scummy bit it'll be clear when next day comes i belive.
thedarkestlight

[TheDarkestLight]

Ok then, here is my list.

Town
1. TheDarkestLight Bus Driver
2. Appley Veteran
3. Bunny Investigator
4. RLVG Doctor
5. Espozito/Superjack Citizen?

Mafia
1: Fatalis (Dead)
2: Fajer: Citizen
3: Espozito/ Superjack Veteran/Citizen

Bunny is a confirmed town whether she is wrong or not. Fajer seemed to push the arguement between Appley and creed, and this might not seem obvious, yet when you think it is. He said Mafia is a mind game, which it is. And he sought to insult creed saying his "experiance" clearly wasn't as much as he said in an attempt to anger him. When people are angry they tend to push harder on what they are doing, like lynching or Vigilante shooting, and hoped the Town would sheep behind an experianced player.

[TheDarkestLight]

Actually scratch the Citizen unless he has been investigated. He's most likely just claiming a fake role.

[AppleyNO]

Ok then, here is my list.

Town
1. TheDarkestLight Bus Driver
2. Appley Veteran
3. Bunny Investigator
4. RLVG Doctor
5. Espozito/Superjack Citizen?

Mafia
1: Fatalis (Dead)
2: Fajer: Citizen
3: Espozito/ Superjack Veteran/Citizen

Bunny is a confirmed town whether she is wrong or not. Fajer seemed to push the arguement between Appley and creed, and this might not seem obvious, yet when you think it is. He said Mafia is a mind game, which it is. And he sought to insult creed saying his "experiance" clearly wasn't as much as he said in an attempt to anger him. When people are angry they tend to push harder on what they are doing, like lynching or Vigilante shooting, and hoped the Town would sheep behind an experianced player.
Why would the mafia handicap themselves with a citizen, or two?

TheDarkestLight

That is L-1 according to the vote counter. Hammer soon plox. Bunny put this together.

[TheDarkestLight]

Why would the mafia handicap themselves with a citizen, or two?

TheDarkestLight

That is L-1 according to the vote counter. Hammer soon plox. Bunny put this together.


Actually scratch the Citizen unless he has been investigated. He's most likely just claiming a fake role.

This sir.

[Cryptonic]

Current Vote Tally:

TheDarkestLight {3} - Bunny, Fajer, AppleyNO
Bunny {1} - Espozito

Four {4} votes are needed to lynch!
TheDarkestLight is L-1!

[Fajer]

Maybe i should make a random role list two!
Because thats apparently what makes you safe.

What is your defence against bunnys arguement

And second tell us who u drove the last night, it could be interesting.

[TheDarkestLight]

Alright then, Bunny can still Invest people even with a Vet. if RLVG rly is a Doctor he can heal her and save her from the Vet, and then Bunny learns who that Vet is and thats a Red Town down the hole. RLVG just needs to make sure not to heal anyone else or he risks the Vet.

[RLVG]

Maybe i should make a random role list two!
Because thats apparently what makes you safe.

Facepalm.gif

[Bunny]

if we lynch thedarkestlight and i die tonight that proves rlvg is red town as he said he'll heal me.

[TheDarkestLight]

Maybe i should make a random role list two!
Because thats apparently what makes you safe.

What is your defence against bunnys arguement

And second tell us who u drove the last night, it could be interesting.

I bussed Fatalis with Bunny, and Fatalis was the Red Town Bus Driver, and they tried to attack Bunny, yet instead they hit Fatalis because of the bussing. Making it currently 5v3.

[TheDarkestLight]

If Fajer still has his vest he should use it tonight. That leaves only Superjack to be killed since the Red Town won't risk a Veteran.

[TheDarkestLight]

Oh and RLVG.

[TheDarkestLight]

I would find it susp if the Maf wouldn't attack an uncced Doctor.

[Bunny]

I bussed Fatalis with Bunny, and Fatalis was the Red Town Bus Driver, and they tried to attack Bunny, yet instead they hit Fatalis because of the bussing. Making it currently 5v3.

making it 5v3? scum slip?

[TheDarkestLight]

making it 5v3? scum slip?

A typo, 5v3 isn't even possible. 2 is right next to 3 you see...

[RLVG]

if we lynch thedarkestlight and i die tonight that proves rlvg is red town as he said he'll heal me.

Don't be a hypocrit, you can still be double-killed by veteran + killer. :p


I would find it susp if the Maf wouldn't attack an uncced Doctor.

It could be a way to frame me by attacking someone else since I've told I would heal Bunny.

[Bunny]

Don't be a hypocrit, you can still be double-killed by veteran + killer. :p

nah i probably won't do a night action if there is a red veteran.

[TheDarkestLight]

Jack is afk...

[Cryptonic]

Night Three

Day Three has ended!
Nobody was lynched!

TheDarkestLight {3} - Bunny, Fajer, AppleyNO
Bunny {1} - Espozito


Players List
RLVG
Bunny
AppleyNO
Fajer
TheDarkestLight
Espozito
SuperJack

Night ends in 24 hours, at 5:30 PM PST, January 10.
Night chats are now open.

[Cryptonic]

FINISH


Bunny was found dead this morning. She was killed by the Red Town.
Her role was Investigator.


The Red Town has won the game!
Congratulations TheDarkestLight, RLVG, and Espozito!


Role & Player List
Fatalis Bus Driver
1.Bus driver
2.Veteran
3.Lookout
4.Coroner
5.Detective

RLVG Doctor
1. Citizen
2. Lookout
3. Bus Driver
4. Coroner
5. Veteran

Bunny Investigator
1. Bus Driver
2. Investigator
3. Doctor
4. Bodyguard
5. Coroner

creedkingsx Vigilante
1. Coroner
2. Investigator
3. Lookout
4. Bodyguard
5. Escort

AppleyNO Veteran
1. Coroner
2. Investigator
3. Lookout
4. Bodyguard
5. Escort

MintBerry Crunch Lookout
1. Veteran
2. Bodyguard
3. Bus Driver
4. Lookout
5. Investigator

Fajer Citizen
1. Bus Driver
2. Coroner
3. Investigator
4. Doctor
5. Bodyguard

TheDarkestLight Bus Driver
1. Citizen
2. Investigator
3. Lookout
4. Escort
5. Veteran

Espozito Veteran
1. Citizen
2. Coroner
3. Detective
4. Veteran
5. Bodyguard

SuperJack Coroner
1. Veteran
2. Bus Driver
3. Lookout
4. Investigator
5. Doctor


Final Role Points
Bodyguard 12
Bus Driver 26
Citizen 15
Coroner 27
Detective 6
Doctor 6
Escort 2
Investigator 18
Lookout 18
Veteran 20

Thank you all for playing!


Host choice MVP: Bunny. I feel that she was the only one to really take day chat seriously and took her time to read posts. She had good arguments and a good defense when she was pressured by the Red Town, even making one of them remove his vote.


You may now vote for Player's Choice MVP.

[RLVG]

I agree on Bunny.
Everyone else were acting AFK'ish and the victory did not feel satisfying for that reason.

[Cryptonic]

Fun Fact: Night One, both the Bus Drivers bussed the same 2 targets, which canceled eachother out.

[Espozito]

Bunny for MVP, we played really bad as maf))

[Fajer]

bunny because of awsome defence and made me change my vote.

[creedkingsx]

It's a shame our lookout died so early.
I was this close to shooting TDL on the first night, but decided not to because lately I have been making my assumption based on players actually playing with an ounce of intelligence. I decided not to do that and assume him to be scrub like everyone else. Shame.

[Cryptonic]

Lolol creed n1 : I might shoot TDL, ill get back to you.


Also, mint didn't submit a night action. Lol

[creedkingsx]

Lolol creed n1 : I might shoot TDL, ill get back to you.


Also, mint didn't submit a night action. Lol

Sad.

[AppleyNO]

So yea. Glad we all send in the same list.

Bunny's arguement was 100% sound. There was really no excuse why TDL wasn't lynched.


Sorry for killing you creed and Fatalis. :P

[AppleyNO]

Sorry for killing you creed and Fatalis. :P
Come to think about it, my night actions suck.

[TheDarkestLight]

We only won because Superjack was AFK. I honestly don't feel proud of that win. Although I facepalmed when both my allies came rushing to my defense. I was hoping that atleast one would seem to pushing against me and might appear town the next day, I was 100% prepared for sacrifice.

[Cryptonic]

Appley, If town sent in the same lists, there would be a second citizen 100% :P

[TheDarkestLight]

So yea. Glad we all send in the same list.

Bunny's arguement was 100% sound. There was really no excuse why TDL wasn't lynched.


Sorry for killing you creed and Fatalis. :P

The excuse was that Jack was afk.

[creedkingsx]

I shoulda shot you n1 rather than assume you'd play like ecru other newbie that comes through. Rest assured I won't underestimate you again ;)

[TheDarkestLight]

I shoulda shot you n1 rather than assume you'd play like ecru other newbie that comes through. Rest assured I won't underestimate you again ;)

I was honestly hoping my allies wouldn't buddy me last day. As I said I was prepared for a sacrifice, yet they buddied me, and if Jack hadn't been AFK it would have been a loss. Which is why I don't feel good about the win. You should have seen the night chat.

[Jim]

Worst Person: Cryptonic: I listed 1. Veteran 2.Veteran 3.Veteran and was given Lookout, if I got Veteran I would have allerted N1 but nooooooo.

[creedkingsx]

The list wasn't a prefer list and had no bearing on what role you woulda recieved

[TheDarkestLight]

Worst Person: Cryptonic: I listed 1. Veteran 2.Veteran 3.Veteran and was given Lookout, if I got Veteran I would have allerted N1 but nooooooo.

U mad bro?

[Jim]

U mad bro?

Not really, didn't play and lose.

[TheDarkestLight]

Not really, didn't play and lose.

Dat sarcasm.

[AppleyNO]

The list wasn't a prefer list and had no bearing on what role you woulda recieved
But I would have rather a citizen role than a Bus Driver.

[creedkingsx]

But I would have rather a citizen role than a Bus Driver.

He was acting as if his list should have given him Veteran for his role.

[AppleyNO]

He was acting as if his list should have given him Veteran for his role.
Oh. But still.

...

>.>
<.<

Um, the player choice should go to the TDL, tbh. Played well enough not to get lynched. No one else really did much of anything.

I always hurt the town with my night actions. It would have been better if Creed shot me.

[Fatalis]

Didn't realize this game has ended
I switched Creed and Appley hoping Appley(if he was a mafia) would shot Creed
And then it became clear that it was a bad idea....

[creedkingsx]

Didn't realize this game has ended
I switched Creed and Appley hoping Appley(if he was a mafia) would shot Creed
And then it became clear that it was a bad idea....

yeah, I tried to shoot appley.
Which led to me shooting myself... I think?

[Fatalis]

yeah, I tried to shoot appley.
Which led to me shooting myself... I think?

DOUBLE KILL

I was also DOUBLE KILLED by the mafia lol

[TheDarkestLight]

If this is allowed

LVP: SuperJack The Town would have won if he wasn't afk in the end.