S-FM 220: Empire

[Sino]

Well Mesk isn't getting lynched today so anyone voting Mesk should place their votes elsewhere.

I would like more pressure on DW, since there seem to be quite a few un-easy feelings around him from multiple people. Garning pressure on him to kick him into action for when he turns up.

Who would you like to see lynched today ? Could you also sort your lynches in the following order : the ones you're most willing to lynch first and the ones you're less willing to lynch last, as well as explaining us the order ?

[yzb25]

@ika

Update your thoughts on SW. A conversation between us on SW makes a lot of sense right now. If you're town, I can probably get lots of useful intel on SW because I don't know her scumplay or much about her generally. If you're scum, there's a chance you'll fuck up trying to make a sincere read on your wife and your wife will pick up on it, assuming she isn't scum too lol.

[Calix]

@secondpassing

I wanna know how you feel about this train on you. Do you care if you're lynched? Do you care about this game? You're acting kinda detached this game, in a way you're not usually.

If you're town, this attitude is really fucking us over man, and you're gonna cause a d1 mislynch.

Also shit like this makes me feel like yzb is informed. It's like he knows things and is looking down on players.

It's kinda how I felt about Unknown in Spirits where he would make these weird TMI-ish comments about town players like Mesk.

This is mostly a tone thing so I wouldn't lynch based on this. yzb hasn't said anything egregiously bad, but he's not blown me away either. He's still in the same place as RLVG.

[SilverWolf]

Well, yzb that read on me is complete garbage. I already told you why I don't like you pinging me on the SP post. Your explanation is no better. But to say you think my reads are null because I can fake reads as scum, then later saying they are townie, then saying you'd lynch me anyway, then later saying you don't know my play, is all over the map.

For one thing, reading someone off reads is super important if you are town. That's one of the best ways I use to read a person. Completely discounting them because you seem to think I can fabricate them is complete bullshit. You also say you don't know me so how the hell do you know that? It looks like spreading paranoia.

In other words, this scumread is garbage and has no basis considering everything I've done this game.

[yzb25]

I don't have to. I can link to town games where I was a raving hypocrite. It's NAI. If anything, it's actually a town tell for me because I give more fucks about how I look as scum. But this is WIFOM because I'm self-aware...thus making it NAI ;)



Eww coaching the scumfuck DW.



Your SW scum-read is shit. You're only focused on her because "I think you could fabricate your reads" AKA you're fear-reading her as scum because of perceived competency.

Your post is shit. You tell people "oh you two need to interact more" and what have you BUT YOU DO NOTHING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

I also have no further insight into your reads other than "Calix is a hypocrite" and "SW is still scum guise but maybe not"

1)Even if you're self-aware of how you can fuck-up, that doesn't mean you won't fuck-up again.

"If anything, it's actually a town tell for me because I give more fucks about how I look as scum."

That argument can be applied to all things that look scummy. Stop with the retarded copouts

Alternatively, you can just explain what made you hypocrite-d.

2) Do scums actually do that in daychat? They have a nightchat, you know.

3) No. I scumread her for my original post. The post you yourself read and replied to. I repeated this in the section you're responding to.

4) Working on it.

5) Rude.

Can you pls just respond to my criticisms without firing low-blows for no reason? You don't seem to actually scumread me, so I dunno why you're responding like this.

[secondpassing]

@secondpassing

I wanna know how you feel about this train on you. Do you care if you're lynched? Do you care about this game? You're acting kinda detached this game, in a way you're not usually.

If you're town, this attitude is really fucking us over man, and you're gonna cause a d1 mislynch.

My train? There is currently two people on me.

MattZed- who has been busy with life or something has yet to come back. His read upon my answer to him is bad. I don't think he think it does though, which is something I probably can't persuade him about. Before he left, he made a few posts that basically told me he was considering me as town in some areas. I think he'll come around.

deathworlds- He made some uncharacteristically abrasive posts. I don't really know why he made them, and I can only conclude he does not truly feel that way. When I asked him about it, his answer seems to suggest he was genuine. Not quite sure on what he actually thinks. His vote is simplistic but differs from SilverWolf's.

(SilverWolf, not on my train currently)- made some probing posts elsewhere that I really liked. She's kinda of a basic scum hunter. I don't think she looks too deep into things.
________________

I've been told at times that my town game is better sometimes. This happens when I'm detached. Unfortunately, it's also very boring.
There's snow outside my house, its warm in here. I just drank some soup and life is good. I'm also working on a document, maybe that explains it?

[secondpassing]

Also we're coming up to 24 hours left. Can we decide who exactly we are lynching today instead of just lurking?

Ahem, SJ, Unknown, SP and all invisible people

I'm not willing to lynch Sino, but it seems like many people (Mesk, Calix, Unknown, SilverWolf, me) would not mind/prefer to have deathworlds' head being hung.

[SilverWolf]

@ika

Update your thoughts on SW. A conversation between us on SW makes a lot of sense right now. If you're town, I can probably get lots of useful intel on SW because I don't know her scumplay or much about her generally. If you're scum, there's a chance you'll fuck up trying to make a sincere read on your wife and your wife will pick up on it, assuming she isn't scum too lol.

Don't expect anything on this front for at least another hour and a half. He's working plus we are in the middle of a snowstorm.

[Calix]

1)Even if you're self-aware of how you can fuck-up, that doesn't mean you won't fuck-up again.

"If anything, it's actually a town tell for me because I give more fucks about how I look as scum."

That argument can be applied to all things that look scummy. Stop with the retarded copouts

Alternatively, you can just explain what made you hypocrite-d.

2) Do scums actually do that in daychat? They have a nightchat, you know.

3) No. I scumread her for my original post. The post you yourself read and replied to. I repeated this in the section you're responding to.

4) Working on it.

5) Rude.

Can you pls just respond to my criticisms without firing low-blows for no reason? You don't seem to actually scumread me, so I dunno why you're responding like this.

Yes, I literally said that my argument was NAI...because my argument was that my hypocrisy is NAI. Please read.

Uh, where did you get the impression that scum have daychat from? That's not in the setup...

What criticisms? Your posts are worded in such a way that I can't remember a single thing that you say and have to keep scrolling back up.

I don't town-read you and it's annoying me. I was hoping that you'd be obvious town for POE purposes but you're being weird and shady which makes me think that you rolled non-town for once.

[Calix]

Yes, I literally said that my argument was NAI...because my argument was that my hypocrisy is NAI. Please read.

Uh, where did you get the impression that scum have daychat from? That's not in the setup...

What criticisms? Your posts are worded in such a way that I can't remember a single thing that you say and have to keep scrolling back up.

I don't town-read you and it's annoying me. I was hoping that you'd be obvious town for POE purposes but you're being weird and shady which makes me think that you rolled non-town for once.

I just reread your wallpost and realised why it was so boring. You just tell people to do shit but you're not doing anything yourself.

Take this one. Regardless of your alignment, this post is such contrived bullshit:

Update your thoughts on SW. A conversation between us on SW makes a lot of sense right now. If you're town, I can probably get lots of useful intel on SW because I don't know her scumplay or much about her generally. If you're scum, there's a chance you'll fuck up trying to make a sincere read on your wife and your wife will pick up on it, assuming she isn't scum too lol.

So many words, so little said.

[yzb25]

Also shit like this makes me feel like yzb is informed. It's like he knows things and is looking down on players.

It's kinda how I felt about Unknown in Spirits where he would make these weird TMI-ish comments about town players like Mesk.

This is mostly a tone thing so I wouldn't lynch based on this. yzb hasn't said anything egregiously bad, but he's not blown me away either. He's still in the same place as RLVG.

If you feel so sure SP is scum that you think the chances SP flips town are "once in a blue moon", then how can I have prior knowledge that he is town? You either scumread SP, or you townread him and think I'm white-knighting him. Which is it? Why are you throwing all this shade on me for giving my opinion on you?

Honestly, this implies you have knowledge that SP will flip town and are projecting onto me LOL.

Well, yzb that read on me is complete garbage. I already told you why I don't like you pinging me on the SP post. Your explanation is no better. But to say you think my reads are null because I can fake reads as scum, then later saying they are townie, then saying you'd lynch me anyway, then later saying you don't know my play, is all over the map.

For one thing, reading someone off reads is super important if you are town. That's one of the best ways I use to read a person. Completely discounting them because you seem to think I can fabricate them is complete bullshit. You also say you don't know me so how the hell do you know that? It looks like spreading paranoia.

In other words, this scumread is garbage and has no basis considering everything I've done this game.

Yeah, my read on you is unrelated to your reads. That doesn't invalidate it at all. I also often use reads to read people, that doesn't make them necessary.

I don't know much about you, but I've still gotta try and read you. It wasn't that strong of a read at first. It's just being exacerbated by the fact you don't seem to be responding to the actual point I'm making. That read on SP looked like circle-jerking. Going "gross, join the scumpile", looks like an edgy show to me.

I'm not spreading paranoia for having a scumread on you. Seriously, I'm not some puppetmaster toying with people's emotions. That's crazy.

Someone throw me a bone, I swear SW and Calix are responding badly or something lol.

[yzb25]

Don't expect anything on this front for at least another hour and a half. He's working plus we are in the middle of a snowstorm.

Thanks for the info.

[yzb25]

Thanks for the info.

That's really inconvenient actually, because I'll probably be asleep by then. I'll respond to him in the morning I guess.

[Calix]

If you feel so sure SP is scum that you think the chances SP flips town are "once in a blue moon", then how can I have prior knowledge that he is town? You either scumread SP, or you townread him and think I'm white-knighting him. Which is it? Why are you throwing all this shade on me for giving my opinion on you?

Honestly, this implies you have knowledge that SP will flip town and are projecting onto me LOL.



Yeah, my read on you is unrelated to your reads. That doesn't invalidate it at all. I also often use reads to read people, that doesn't make them necessary.

I don't know much about you, but I've still gotta try and read you. It wasn't that strong of a read at first. It's just being exacerbated by the fact you don't seem to be responding to the actual point I'm making. That read on SP looked like circle-jerking. Going "gross, join the scumpile", looks like an edgy show to me.

I'm not spreading paranoia for having a scumread on you. Seriously, I'm not some puppetmaster toying with people's emotions. That's crazy.

Someone throw me a bone, I swear SW and Calix are responding badly or something lol.

I love how your response is "no u"

If you actually read the chat then you would have seen that my SP scum-read was weakened due to SW making a good point about SP/ Unknown. Your point is also trying to criticise me for considering other possibilities. Obviously you being scum would imply that SP isn't on your team but I never said that you two were on a team in the first place.

No, yzb. You're just spewing bullshit out of your arse. lol

[secondpassing]

So, yzb. deathworlds yay/nay?

[secondpassing]

-vote deathworlds

CHOO CHOO

[Calix]

Instead of responding to 'defend' yourself or whatever, maybe give reads? I still don't know your opinion on half the shit in the game.

If you're town then that's way more productive than bickering with us.

If you think I'm the Big Bad Calix trying to defuse someone scum-reading me, summarise your points and then give reads.

Either way, you're doing it

[yzb25]

Yes, I literally said that my argument was NAI...because my argument was that my hypocrisy is NAI. Please read.

Uh, where did you get the impression that scum have daychat from? That's not in the setup...

What criticisms? Your posts are worded in such a way that I can't remember a single thing that you say and have to keep scrolling back up.

I don't town-read you and it's annoying me. I was hoping that you'd be obvious town for POE purposes but you're being weird and shady which makes me think that you rolled non-town for once.

Fine, I won't get an explanation, fuck it. I guess your hypocrisy is NAI because of the Calix-meta-read you've forbidden the rest of us to use.

You misread me.

Eh, thanks for letting me know. I guess I'll have to rewrite if it's fucking unreadable.

Could you be more specific?

[yzb25]

Instead of responding to 'defend' yourself or whatever, maybe give reads? I still don't know your opinion on half the shit in the game.

If you're town then that's way more productive than bickering with us.

If you think I'm the Big Bad Calix trying to defuse someone scum-reading me, summarise your points and then give reads.

Either way, you're doing it

Oh yes, the readwall, lol. I got distracted.

[SilverWolf]

I was saying those reads are null because I believe you could fabricate them.

Update your thoughts on SW. A conversation between us on SW makes a lot of sense right now. If you're town, I can probably get lots of useful intel on SW because I don't know her scumplay or much about her generally. If you're scum, there's a chance you'll fuck up trying to make a sincere read on your wife and your wife will pick up on it, assuming she isn't scum too lol.

This is the contradiction I don't like. You say I can fabricate reads as scum so you are gonna discount them.

Then say you don't know my scumplay or much about me generally.

Regarding you thinking I was putting on a show, that was one post out of many and there is no reason to pick out that one out of all the people hating SP's vote and ignoring my reads or anything else I'm saying to call me scum.

You may think this is a bad response but I'm thinking your scumread on me is scummy in and of itself.

I'll await your reads.

[Mesk514]

Well Mesk isn't getting lynched today so anyone voting Mesk should place their votes elsewhere.

I would like more pressure on DW, since there seem to be quite a few un-easy feelings around him from multiple people. Garning pressure on him to kick him into action for when he turns up.

-vote Deathworlds

[SilverWolf]

So, yzb. deathworlds yay/nay?

Yay, gotta go for a bit but it's gonna end up being one of these two for me at this point.

[Calix]

I'd prefer Sino since he's a stronger scum-read but since both are scumfucks and people are actually defending Sino (???) I'll go with DWs too.

[secondpassing]

I'll ask RLVG in a bit to vote with us, but I'll let him be lazy for a bit more.

[Calix]

I'll ask RLVG in a bit to vote with us, but I'll let him be lazy for a bit more.

Why not just ask everyone?

Did your mother drop you on the floor again? lol

[secondpassing]

Why not just ask everyone?

Did your mother drop you on the floor again? lol

Because I read his earlier posts? He seems to be someone I can convince to vote deathworlds/already would like to vote deathworlds but hasn't made it explicitly clear.

[Calix]

Because I read his earlier posts? He seems to be someone I can convince to vote deathworlds/already would like to vote deathworlds but hasn't made it explicitly clear.

Okay.

While you're in the thread, can you detail how your reads have progressed* since your last wall-post?

*Does not require you to make a wall-post to answer

[SuperJack]

Who would you like to see lynched today ? Could you also sort your lynches in the following order : the ones you're most willing to lynch first and the ones you're less willing to lynch last, as well as explaining us the order ?

Deathworlds - If I was forced to choose someone lynched right now. It would be him. I feel so far his play feels just like his d2 scum play from earlier. And I've come to trust my thoughts more after the past few games being quite accurate.
MattZed - Our confrontation from earlier has yet to come to a Conclusion, and I am in Need of a re-read of his posts. But I will stick with my guns for now.
Sino - From our previous interactions, I fell he had commented on thins such as my votes, but not bothered to explain why. I have a feeling I'm going to be his attempt of a scapegoat. I've kept out of pressuring him as other have done a fine jobs, and I am understanding of their reason-sings.

These two players are currently active, and I will not consider lynching them until after the discussion have held.
SilverWolf -
yzb25 -

These two players I need to re-read and they need to post more before I make my decision.
RLVG -
ika -


Unknown1234 - Starting to move closer away from the Nulls, Unknown has not said anything that has raised any flags
secondpassing - I felt that the L2 vote was over-dramatised, no one could of quick hammered especially early in the day & with active voters around. They are also playing like they don give much fucks about being lynched. Which to me is more of a Town tell than a Scum tell.
Calix - Even if she is scum, the amount of discussion being generated by her is pro-town and a lynch on her will result in much less day activity.
Mesk514 - Voting this slot would just be a PL, too easy to vote up and will give little information from it.



Yoour Turn Sino =)

[SuperJack]

Also, I'm gonna be gone for an hour or two, and will return before I sleep. Because I want to spend my time elsewhere.

@MattZed please call me scum whilst I'm gone again, you need to make it a third time.

[SuperJack]

Mention me if you want my attention.

[ika]

Just got off work. Silver is driving me home then I will be on computer to catch up.

Give me like an Hr to get home and settled and eat and crap then I'll post

[Calix]

I really hate it when everyone is drunk and they start screaming randomly for no reason at all.

I see that you're going out so I can wait for you to return before responding to the following:

Which reasons about Sino do you agree with?

Can you expand a bit on the Unknown read?

Can you give an actual read on Mesk and I? If it's null then I'd like it explicitly stated.

[ika]

ok now that i am home. does anyone have anything immitate that is needed?

im gonna get me some dinner and then come downstairs again an read up on what i have missed. ill have my phone to pop in and out to check

[SilverWolf]

Yes ika, I need you to explain your readslist and expand on your reads and also tell me who you would vote for/lynch today.

[Sino]

Deathworlds - If I was forced to choose someone lynched right now. It would be him. I feel so far his play feels just like his d2 scum play from earlier. And I've come to trust my thoughts more after the past few games being quite accurate.
MattZed - Our confrontation from earlier has yet to come to a Conclusion, and I am in Need of a re-read of his posts. But I will stick with my guns for now.
Sino - From our previous interactions, I fell he had commented on thins such as my votes, but not bothered to explain why. I have a feeling I'm going to be his attempt of a scapegoat. I've kept out of pressuring him as other have done a fine jobs, and I am understanding of their reason-sings.

These two players are currently active, and I will not consider lynching them until after the discussion have held.
SilverWolf -
yzb25 -

These two players I need to re-read and they need to post more before I make my decision.
RLVG -
ika -


Unknown1234 - Starting to move closer away from the Nulls, Unknown has not said anything that has raised any flags
secondpassing - I felt that the L2 vote was over-dramatised, no one could of quick hammered especially early in the day & with active voters around. They are also playing like they don give much fucks about being lynched. Which to me is more of a Town tell than a Scum tell.
Calix - Even if she is scum, the amount of discussion being generated by her is pro-town and a lynch on her will result in much less day activity.
Mesk514 - Voting this slot would just be a PL, too easy to vote up and will give little information from it.



Yoour Turn Sino =)

Here are the players i'm fine with being lynched :

-Calix : She did suggest for the neutral to do something he'd never do, plus the fact she's not asking Mesk to participate, i know she generates a lot of discussion, but the town's goal is to lynch scum.
-RLVG : In his few posts, he didn't really give his opinion about anything that has happened in this game, his posts do nothing for town.
-Mesk : Yeah, she claimed citizen, so what ? That's mostly personal, but why would she given a free pass for her "plays" every game ?

Here are the players i'm not sure about and need to re-read :

-SilverWolf : She made some good points in her interaction with yzb earlier, not sure how i read her.
-ika : I'll wait for him to post his opinions before making a decision.
-SuperJack : I'm currently second-guessing what i said earlier.
-secondpassing : Except for his "reaction test" nothing strikes me as scummy in this slot, i admit that's mostly meta, comparing his play now with his WoM play.
-deathworlds : Mostly a null to me, his play here reminds me of his Fringe play.
-yzb25 : His interaction with SW seemed careless, asking someone to update their reads like he did isn't something scum would do when he's been absent for half the day.

Here are the players i'm not willing to lynch :

-Unknown : Same vibe as in Fringe.
-MattZed : His early interaction with Calix feels genuine, going with her at first to suddenly calling her neutral

[ika]

Yes ika, I need you to explain your readslist and expand on your reads and also tell me who you would vote for/lynch today.

let me read up scicne we are waiting on the oven for pizza i doubt my reads will be the same

[ika]

@ika

Update your thoughts on SW. A conversation between us on SW makes a lot of sense right now. If you're town, I can probably get lots of useful intel on SW because I don't know her scumplay or much about her generally. If you're scum, there's a chance you'll fuck up trying to make a sincere read on your wife and your wife will pick up on it, assuming she isn't scum too lol.

how about you explain to me why we need to interact more when we have had quite a bit and quite a few people have commented on it already

also explain your scum read don silver cus it looks like a bunch of bullshit and a weak reason to try to get a lynch off her

-vote yzb25

this is my top scum read right now (yes im skimming a bunch)

calix seems like her town self (in b4 i get called out for meta) but when she was scum she seems more agreeable and more passsive almost form what i recall. her basicly being argo to everyone and everything is similar to masqurade

gonna read some more bb ina bit with more reads and stuff

[ika]

By the way... pretty sure last time I rolled scum I didn't even claim citizen. Every time I claimed citizen I was a citizen or a tpr

remind me to says oemthing about this post game if it is true

[Calix]

Here are the players i'm fine with being lynched :

-Calix : She did suggest for the neutral to do something he'd never do, plus the fact she's not asking Mesk to participate, i know she generates a lot of discussion, but the town's goal is to lynch scum.
-RLVG : In his few posts, he didn't really give his opinion about anything that has happened in this game, his posts do nothing for town.
-Mesk : Yeah, she claimed citizen, so what ? That's mostly personal, but why would she given a free pass for her "plays" every game ?

Here are the players i'm not sure about and need to re-read :

-SilverWolf : She made some good points in her interaction with yzb earlier, not sure how i read her.
-ika : I'll wait for him to post his opinions before making a decision.
-SuperJack : I'm currently second-guessing what i said earlier.
-secondpassing : Except for his "reaction test" nothing strikes me as scummy in this slot, i admit that's mostly meta, comparing his play now with his WoM play.
-deathworlds : Mostly a null to me, his play here reminds me of his Fringe play.
-yzb25 : His interaction with SW seemed careless, asking someone to update their reads like he did isn't something scum would do when he's been absent for half the day.

Here are the players i'm not willing to lynch :

-Unknown : Same vibe as in Fringe.
-MattZed : His early interaction with Calix feels genuine, going with her at first to suddenly calling her neutral

Fucking hell, mate.

1. You only have TWO players who you're not willing to lynch...and neither of them are being discussed for the lynch anyway. Keeping your options open, I see.

2. You call that a scum-read? Your reasons are "I didn't like her setup spec" and "she doesn't thread-police Mesk and doesn't share my creepy obsession with her" and "she generates discussion which apparently doesn't help with scum-hunting"

Bitch what. You have got to be fucking kidding me. I'm getting a series of terminal illnesses from this post already and I'm only on the second line.

3. You are so ridiculously biased towards Mesk. It's not even AI. I'm just calling you out on this. Get the fuck over yourself. She's just some random teenager drifting through life, having no impact on anything. Who cares?

4. I don't know what your earlier SJ read was.

5. Why wouldn't scum!yzb do that?

6. Do you actually have any fucking scum-reads? lol. Your reasons for me suck, RLVG can be summed up as anti-town and you have a vendetta against Mesk.

And 2/3 of those are inactive fuckers. The third one only cropped up again after I voted for you.

Try again.

[Calix]

ika, when did I play with you as scum? Until Masquerade Madness, I don't recall playing with you in ages.

[ika]

Well Mesk isn't getting lynched today so anyone voting Mesk should place their votes elsewhere.

I would like more pressure on DW, since there seem to be quite a few un-easy feelings around him from multiple people. Garning pressure on him to kick him into action for when he turns up.

why isnt mesk being lynched?

What about DW do you feel uneasy about?

what are your reads in a nutshell i dont care fopr reasons.

[deathworlds]

Couple of post I picked out while I was catching up, I have a few thoughts about em.

Let make things very simplified for everybody.
I am a citizen! Every scum read on me is a forced attempt to justify a shit lynch (let's prove a point) & obviously there's ones that are just pushing because it will benefit them in the long run.

Point is, I haven't thrown my vote everywhere & I'm pretty sure the only person to defend me is unknown so unless you're all Implying I'm scum with him then that's fine.

Also I would like to take this time to say that I really feel like sino wants to stick his dick in me. Every other word is Mesk... talk albout fixation.

BTW if it comes down to a policy lynch, I promise to be x10 more autistic next time... so much for proving a point eh

This entire post is pretty incriminating in my opinion.

First, we start off with a classic discredit, while reinforcing previous claim. Mesk should realize that if she makes the "I am Citizen" claim every game, then it is truly irrelevant. She also completely disregards every scum read on her, without actually interacting with the players that make these scum reads on her. At best, it's lazy anti-town play; at worse, it's an attempt to draw attention away from herself, and on the people who scum read her.

She uses the phrase "Point is" yet hasn't said anything relating to her voting, and as basically a side-note she adds "btw its fine if you think I'm scumbuddys with unknown". Strange, wanted to point it out.

Another discredit on Sino, in a very informal fashion. Not sure how I feel about this.

Basically blackmailing the town into not lynching her, it's probably the most anti-town part of this post. Promises to act worse if she's lynched, discourages votes upon her from others, but without actually providing reasoning why those votes would be invalid.

Let's keep it real, Mesk is a good manipulator and can feign that vibe very well.

@Mesk514

If you're reading the game, please give some thoughts on Sino, Calix and/or Mattzed, because you're basically unreadable for me right now, and you'll probably live until LYLO.

If you have already given some meaningful posts after page 15, you can ignore this.

In other news, RLVG's doing his completely unreadable down-the-line play this game. We should get the guy to give more opinions when he's on.

not sure how to feel about this post, but I thought I should bring it up again.

[deathworlds]

-vote Mesk

[Calix]

Did the scum all realise that they're incompetent at mislynching players and decide to gang up on Mesk this game? lol

[deathworlds]

Did the scum all realise that they're incompetent at mislynching players and decide to gang up on Mesk this game? lol

Lol i'm not scum

[deathworlds]

-vote Mesk

bloody hell

-vote Mesk514

[SilverWolf]

ika-I need to know your read on me because you voted me earlier and said you were paranoid of me but you are also defending me so I need this clarified.

[Calix]

Lol i'm not scum

I'm not convinced. You decided to analyse THAT post of all the things?

Why? Nothing you said warrants that level of analysis.

[ika]

ika, when did I play with you as scum? Until Masquerade Madness, I don't recall playing with you in ages.

i think it was the one game where it was multiball who has porfesser zoom. it had sen and the two scum teams ro seomthing. i know me and silverwolf had a dicssuion about your scum meta after the game and how you appreared more agreeable.

yes i know the game is super outdated and it could be old meta but if you have a more recent scum game that would tell me otherwise feel free to point it out. i know you do play elsewhere, but i dont have time right now to go find another scum game of yorus to see if its relevant.

the big thing i see overall with you as well is this:

if your scum you will be lynched for living too long/killed by neutral
if your town you could easily be shot by the neutral or scum if the neutral gets their wincon
if your neutral you would either get wincon or be lynched for never dying

in a nutshell, if your scum, your going to be outed by surviving too long, as neutral same thing but you could also get wincon. as town you would prob eat a nk at one point or anohter.

[Mesk514]

Did the scum all realise that they're incompetent at mislynching players and decide to gang up on Mesk this game? lol

This is normally how it goes... don't you worry, I am taking notes...