S-FM 226: Which Witch is Which

[Lady Gauss]

if you say hes town im going to ask why

Your opening made it look like you were trying to lock in the lynches early and had a clear agenda.

man i was hoping to be witch but i got town

anyways just on skimming scums are now in

ccantman/Lady Gauss/Stereo

lets lynch and move on

It's very natural for people to get triggered by that sort of thing and puke up crazy conspiracies like "Ika's proposed these people for reason X" or "Ika's trying to lock in the lynch early for reason Y".

By the time you did explain your reasoning, you and GET were already getting into the argument.

FMPOV, the progression looks pretty natural.

That said, when you reread this in retrospect I'd be surprised if you weren't able to see the town!perspective in eachother's posts. You are familiar with eachother's personalities right?

PTB tends to unveil hypotheticals / rough thoughts if he doesn't rigorously lay out his reads first. That's no doubt why he's trying to avoid giving "in the moment reads".

You tend to be apathetic about explaining the intricacies of your thought process as town.

exc.

This looks like TvT to me, and hopefully you guys can reconcile from this outburst. I also don't think it was ever PTB's intention to insult you.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

Ika wrongly assumes we did not read the set up. But get's mad for personal "insults" literally calling someone dumb for saying and having dumb ideas is not insulting them.

However, IKA's point makes no sense because this is a two misylnch game. And say for instance. LG, Whad, and ika are all town, or one of them are scum, and they all just throw votes on ccantman (who in this hypothesis is town), then someone sees a train forming and jumps on, and scum hammers, or scum jumps on and an unsuspecting town member hammers him. That's mislynch #1. Then if i'm scum I take out the biggest opposition to that train, then day two game is practically over.

So ika, me warning people to not just casually throw votes on someone b/c it's easy, and especially since you're pushing hard for an early lynch in a 2 lynch game. No thanks.

[yzb25]

if you say hes town im going to ask why

Your opening made it look like you were trying to lock in the lynches early and had a clear agenda.

man i was hoping to be witch but i got town

anyways just on skimming scums are now in

ccantman/Lady Gauss/Stereo

lets lynch and move on

It's very natural for people to get triggered by that sort of thing and puke up crazy conspiracies like "Ika's proposed these people for reason X" or "Ika's trying to lock in the lynch early for reason Y".

By the time you did explain your reasoning, you and GET were already getting into the argument.

FMPOV, the progression looks pretty natural.

That said, when you reread this in retrospect I'd be surprised if you weren't able to see the town!perspective in eachother's posts. You are familiar with eachother's personalities right?

PTB tends to unveil hypotheticals / rough thoughts if he doesn't rigorously lay out his reads first. That's no doubt why he's trying to avoid giving "in the moment reads".

You tend to be apathetic about explaining the intricacies of your thought process as town.

exc.

This looks like TvT to me, and hopefully you guys can reconcile from this outburst. I also don't think it was ever PTB's intention to insult you.

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[God Emperor Trudeau]

sorry I should be more clear. that night scum would kill biggest opposition. then the next day, all scum would have to do is lynch the hammer (if town) or put the heat on one of the earlier voters ilike ika or whad or whatever, and boom 2nd mislynch and witches win.


Given there is no doc and jailor cant jail/execute.

I'm literally just saying be careful because I'm a citizen and IDK what power roles are out.

[ccantman]

sorry I should be more clear. that night scum would kill biggest opposition. then the next day, all scum would have to do is lynch the hammer (if town) or put the heat on one of the earlier voters ilike ika or whad or whatever, and boom 2nd mislynch and witches win.


Given there is no doc and jailor cant jail/execute.

I'm literally just saying be careful because I'm a citizen and IDK what power roles are out.

What do you mean no doc? How do you know we don't have a Field Surgeon?

At best IF you are a power role, there is still one other

[God Emperor Trudeau]

OK so this is what is going on so far.

Whad = town (mesk)
LG = town (for now :P)
Ika = town (according to whad and yzb)
Get = town (duh, ptb always adds himself in reads)
Stereo = town (scum vibe)

(these are not reads, a summation of what others have said)

CCANTman (town/null/scum?)

Trine = AFK
Sinon = AFK

[yzb25]

How I would have answered isn't the point here. The point is that YOU are acting suspicious and I'm not going to let you deflect it back onto me.

Excluding yourself from the entity!!? This still makes it seem like you are not part of the townsfolk.

Gut vibe is that it's Lady Gauss/Stereo. I would expect yzb to pick up on Stereo's scumminess but it seems like he is trying to help brush it under the rug.

ika/GET is TvT. Get over it guys.

Did my reasons for not scumreading Stereo seem insincere? Do they miss some critical point that you'd expect me to pick up on if I were town?

Stereo asked that question because he was curious what you would interpret to be a town response. I am also curious about what you would interpret to be a town response.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

What do you mean no doc? How do you know we don't have a Field Surgeon?

At best IF you are a power role, there is still one other

Oy Vey, we got another ika. Ok READ "given" there is no doc/jailor blah.

It was a hypothetical situation. So I'not saying there is no doc, I'm saying in that situation if there is no doc we lose very quickly if we leave votes on you.

Wait, are you questioning someone who is telling people not to just leave votes on you? LOL

[Lady Gauss]

Can I post with this now?

[Lady Gauss]

Can I post with this now?

Looks like it :3 Sorry for infecting the game with my trash account lol

[Lady Gauss]

Your opening made it look like you were trying to lock in the lynches early and had a clear agenda.



It's very natural for people to get triggered by that sort of thing and puke up crazy conspiracies like "Ika's proposed these people for reason X" or "Ika's trying to lock in the lynch early for reason Y".

By the time you did explain your reasoning, you and GET were already getting into the argument.

FMPOV, the progression looks pretty natural.

That said, when you reread this in retrospect I'd be surprised if you weren't able to see the town!perspective in eachother's posts. You are familiar with eachother's personalities right?

PTB tends to unveil hypotheticals / rough thoughts if he doesn't rigorously lay out his reads first. That's no doubt why he's trying to avoid giving "in the moment reads".

You tend to be apathetic about explaining the intricacies of your thought process as town.

exc.

This looks like TvT to me, and hopefully you guys can reconcile from this outburst. I also don't think it was ever PTB's intention to insult you.

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^^post 101

Did my reasons for not scumreading Stereo seem insincere? Do they miss some critical point that you'd expect me to pick up on if I were town?

Stereo asked that question because he was curious what you would interpret to be a town response. I am also curious about what you would interpret to be a town response.

^^post 105

For ISOs.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

We should lynch LG

*this is a joke*

[ccantman]

Oy Vey, we got another ika. Ok READ "given" there is no doc/jailor blah.

It was a hypothetical situation. So I'not saying there is no doc, I'm saying in that situation if there is no doc we lose very quickly if we leave votes on you.

Wait, are you questioning someone who is telling people not to just leave votes on you? LOL

See the problem is you used the word "given"
I interpreted that as , "see as we don't have" instead of "under the assumption that"

[Lady Gauss]

We should lynch LG

*this is a joke*

I agree.

*this is also a joke*

[ccantman]

Oy Vey, we got another ika. Ok READ "given" there is no doc/jailor blah.

It was a hypothetical situation. So I'not saying there is no doc, I'm saying in that situation if there is no doc we lose very quickly if we leave votes on you.

Wait, are you questioning someone who is telling people not to just leave votes on you? LOL

and under that assumption that I thought you were making a statement not a hypotheticall, I was wondering if you had inside information or a read that we lacked a doctor, more so then questioning it

[Lady Gauss]

and under that assumption that I thought you were making a statement not a hypotheticall, I was wondering if you had inside information or a read that we lacked a doctor, more so then questioning it

You have to at least try to put your gutreads into words man. Try to remember which parts of Ika's post gave you that feeling, try to recall the exact feelings you got, and try to find associations between those feelings and adjectives.

Also, surely the Ika isn't the only person you're starting to develop an instinct about.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

I'm going to work, Mesk will be taking over for the next 10 to 12 hours. I MIGHT pop in.

[Stealthbomber16]

@Stealthbomber16

If we lynch and have a jailor, it says the jailor cannot execute, is he still able to act as a escort?

Is there max one killing role for witches?

The jailor can still jail but not execute.

Yes

As for the timer deal I'll figure that all out when I get home.

[Sinon]

Thoughts:

Whad seemed oddly eager to jump in to set the tone for the round and to start attacking, like the best defense is a good offense, and then gives Mesk a town pass for seemingly no reason. And a question like "2. Any thoughts on ccantman for mentioning a jester (obviously not in game) and then disappearing?" is the type of question designed to gin up confusion and muddy the conversation in order to deflect from oneself by suggestively teeing someone up to judge another player on specious evidence at best. I worry they are trying to give Mesk a town pass without any question and then distract so we just subconsciously accept it without realizing we never actually scrutinized it, and that they're more broadly trying to control the narrative. Then, I'm slightly suspicious of Trudeau after getting panicked over deleting a comment or two...what could they have possibly said that was so alarming? You don't accidentally type out something and send it. Though, subsequent comments lead me to believe Trudeau may just naturally be that frenetic.

As for me, I'm a townsperson, and based on how, uh, passionate ika and Trudeau are, I don't think either of them are a witch (my slight reservation about Trudeau notwithstanding): everyone else I'm still figuring out.

[ccantman]

Hello everybody!

-vote ccantman

He was banned recently, presumably for some justifiable reason, and therefore must be bad.

Throw out vote to start discussion

Actually not enough fans to 1000000% convince me, but I'm at like 99%

On the Instant joins Mesk on her callout

-vote God Emperor Trudeau

FOR PREZ PLZ

Another throw out vote

Hey Stereo, I have a few questions for you.

1. What do you think about this setup?
2. Any thoughts on ccantman for mentioning a jester (obviously not in game) and then disappearing?

Calls me out for making opening game remarks and time zone

1: There's a lot of possible roles but only a small possibility for each of them to spawn, so I'm expecting it to take a hot minute for townsfolk to get on their feet and really start rolling unless someone scumslips pretty hardcore. The worst thing that can happen is one of our witch hunters gets pwned before they can give any meaningful information/leads.

2: I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I'll chalk it up to being a village idiot moment, but I plan on keeping an eye on ccantman. It seems more like a meaningless remark than anything that needs to be examined under a microscope.

See what my comments are for what they are

1. I think that even in a more traditional setup like this where there is likely to be a town investigative role, it's important to not fall into the mindset of "expecting it to take a hot minute for the townsfolk to get on their feet and really start rolling".

I find it highly suspicious that you are describing the townsfolk as an entity that seems separate from yourself when you say the "townsfolk to get on THEIR feet" instead of OUR feet.

I also think that your sentence about "the worst thing that can happen is one of our witch hunters gets pwned" seems a bit fake and artificial since DUH of course we don't want the witches to kill our power roles. Also, there are last wills in this setup so at least the town investigative(s?) can still give us their leads.

2. Have you played with ccantman before? Is this joking playstyle typical of ccantman?

--
Because of the weird vibe I'm getting from Stereo about describing the townsfolk as an entity separate from himself, I'm gonna throw my vote here instead.

-vote Stereo

Switches to Stero, which based on what has been said does not seem logical

WHAD IS TOWN BTW, ONLY TOWN WHAD OPENS WITH A 2 POINT BULLET SPEECH

And yet GET defends this

man i was hoping to be witch but i got town

anyways just on skimming scums are now in

ccantman/Lady Gauss/Stereo

lets lynch and move on

Is not pointing out GET or Whad

Also there's only one page still get to the right ppp scrub

-vote ccantman

Votes for me, with no reasoning

These lead me to
GET/Wald for scum From page 1
But then the vote from ika makes me want to think him as scum
And then GET's aregument with Ika make me question that.

so the only one left is Wald who then

The OMGUS here pings me the wrong way. Ika suspects you and votes you and then you turn it back around on him but:
a) don't vote him, and
b) "dont have a solid base to say" and avoid posting any reasoning whatsoever.

Keep pressuing me

How I would have answered isn't the point here. The point is that YOU are acting suspicious and I'm not going to let you deflect it back onto me.

Excluding yourself from the entity!!? This still makes it seem like you are not part of the townsfolk.

Gut vibe is that it's Lady Gauss/Stereo. I would expect yzb to pick up on Stereo's scumminess but it seems like he is trying to help brush it under the rug.

ika/GET is TvT. Get over it guys.

Is protecting ika/GET: which I think one of them is scum, just not sure which

What do you think about Stereo and how he describes the townsfolk as a separate entity from himself?

I just now see this, and can say Stero threw out a feeler, though nothing stood out from his post so far.
And is trying to push on stero.

So I'm thinking

-vote Whad

[ccantman]

You have to at least try to put your gutreads into words man. Try to remember which parts of Ika's post gave you that feeling, try to recall the exact feelings you got, and try to find associations between those feelings and adjectives.

Also, surely the Ika isn't the only person you're starting to develop an instinct about.

In my attempt to find words, I came up with Wald instead :/

[Sinon]

What do you think about Stereo and how he describes the townsfolk as a separate entity from himself?

I don't think much of it, it's just a manner of speaking. Some people speak as though they are part of the group that they're talking about when they're not (e.g. sports teams), some people speak as though they are not in the entity even if they actually are, especially when referring to the entity more generally as opposed to their specific place in it (e.g. congresspeople talking about Congress unable to pass something (or anything..) as if they aren't a part of it). It's like hearing someone say "one should be careful what one says" vs. "you should be careful what you say" and trying to draw a conclusion based off of that.

[Lady Gauss]

In my attempt to find words, I came up with Wald instead :/

Lol, that's fair enough. It's natural for people's view to shift upon a reread XD.

Ika did give reasoning regarding you... somewhere... Basically his scumread on you was regarding the lack of thoughts/contribution you were giving. But obviously we're getting a better look into your brain now so that doesn't apply. Ika's initial reads weren't meant to be unchangable final thoughts.

-unvote

Anyway, I also find Whad's play to be off. I'm glad someone's picked up on this. Mesk is the type who is reluctant to communicate reasons behind her reads, unfortunately. So it'll be hard to find out Mesk's reasons for townreading Whad. (Mesk is the one in GET who townread Whad)

[Sinon]

Also I'm just realizing my previous post didn't go up, my bad, but I said more or less that Whad starting the game off with a specious accusation comes off to me as someone trying to control the narrative out of the gate, perhaps thinking that the best defense is a good offense. And a question like "2. Any thoughts on ccantman for mentioning a jester (obviously not in game) and then disappearing?" is the sort of question designed to gin up confusion and get people fighting by teeing someone up to go after another player in response to a loaded question. Also, I had thought Trudeau's getting panicked over wanting their comments deleted was somewhat suspicious, but that is no more odd really than anything else they've said since.

As for myself, I am a citizen, and I think that based on the level of, uh, passion wrt ika and Trudeau, that they are citizens too. Other than that, I'm still figuring everyone else out, with a particular suspicion toward Whad.

[ika]

do witches have daychat?

It's not said in setup

[Stealthbomber16]

do witches have daychat?

It's not said in setup

Negative

[ika]

This looks like TvT to me, and hopefully you guys can reconcile from this outburst. I also don't think it was ever PTB's intention to insult you.

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i can quote where he admits that he is doing so intentionaly if you like.

[ika]

-unvote

sinon is added to town pile with yzb right now

will read more in a bit

[ika]

ccant: did you ever figure out what made you scum read me?

[ika]

Also I'm just realizing my previous post didn't go up, my bad, but I said more or less that Whad starting the game off with a specious accusation comes off to me as someone trying to control the narrative out of the gate, perhaps thinking that the best defense is a good offense. And a question like "2. Any thoughts on ccantman for mentioning a jester (obviously not in game) and then disappearing?" is the sort of question designed to gin up confusion and get people fighting by teeing someone up to go after another player in response to a loaded question. Also, I had thought Trudeau's getting panicked over wanting their comments deleted was somewhat suspicious, but that is no more odd really than anything else they've said since.

As for myself, I am a citizen, and I think that based on the level of, uh, passion wrt ika and Trudeau, that they are citizens too. Other than that, I'm still figuring everyone else out, with a particular suspicion toward Whad.

fyi outing peoples roles is anti-town, while i do say "dont rely on prs and fuck the narroing of the pool" publicly stipulating what they are is not helpful either

have you ever played mafia before and if so where

[ccantman]

ccant: did you ever figure out what made you scum read me?

man i was hoping to be witch but i got town

anyways just on skimming scums are now in

ccantman/Lady Gauss/Stereo

lets lynch and move on

Also there's only one page still get to the right ppp scrub

-vote ccantman

I could ask the same question to you.

You skim me as scum and then vote me without much backing.

If your read on me is scum because I gave no information on my feeling, Then how is this any different than what you did?

[Sinon]

Thanks for the advice; I've never played forum mafia before. I can't imagine laying down my thoughts and observations, in constructive furtherance of the conversation, could be less helpful than personally attacking players over petty, trivial things, but I'll try to better hew to your imperious vision of how the game should be played. Keep in mind, however, that who was assigned what role is independent of a player's chosen strategy.

[Lady Gauss]

Thanks for the advice; I've never played forum mafia before. I can't imagine laying down my thoughts and observations, in constructive furtherance of the conversation, could be less helpful than personally attacking players over petty, trivial things, but I'll try to better hew to your imperious vision of how the game should be played. Keep in mind, however, that who was assigned what role is independent of a player's chosen strategy.

Holy crap man, some of those words I've never heard outside of an academic paper o.o

What do you do for a living?

[ika]

I could ask the same question to you.

You skim me as scum and then vote me without much backing.

If your read on me is scum because I gave no information on my feeling, Then how is this any different than what you did?

becasue my vote was based on the backing of POE and i can quote it if you like. yours is based on unexplained guts.

while you quoted me with what looks like empty reaosns its a sefl implied that i would have reasons or readss most people here know i work on a poe stance.

TLDR: my vote was based on poe and not feelings

[ccantman]

fyi outing peoples roles is anti-town, while i do say "dont rely on prs and fuck the narroing of the pool" publicly stipulating what they are is not helpful either

have you ever played mafia before and if so where

Is outing the roles anti-town?

Hypthetically you are jailed, is it to the towns benefit to say or not say you were jailed (revealing there is a jailor). Likewise other roles with indications (such as artificier [though that could still be scum])

also, do know know what POE stands for

[ika]

Thanks for the advice; I've never played forum mafia before. I can't imagine laying down my thoughts and observations, in constructive furtherance of the conversation, could be less helpful than personally attacking players over petty, trivial things, but I'll try to better hew to your imperious vision of how the game should be played. Keep in mind, however, that who was assigned what role is independent of a player's chosen strategy.

i second gauss, what do you do for a living.

also, i dont claim to be an authority on how every game of mafia should be played i just speak in what is objectively mafia. mafia is about scum hunting and lynching scum.

in essence all prs are glorifed cits/mafia members and in a core mafia format, towns should not have to rely on prs to solve the game for them. the site has been notorious for doing that and basically putting town on blind faith instead of using their true power: the lynch

if a game is dependent on its prs it must be one of sevral things:
A) role madness
B) swing games where town can not win by lynch alone
C) people who want to be lazy and dont know what scum hunting is.

yes C is very blunt but thats how i feel, if a game can be broken by its own pr night actions where scums have no outs then the game was broken to begin with.

[ika]

Is outing the roles anti-town?

Hypthetically you are jailed, is it to the towns benefit to say or not say you were jailed (revealing there is a jailor). Likewise other roles with indications (such as artificier [though that could still be scum])

also, do know know what POE stands for

thats diffrent context entirely. if someone jsut comes out and goes "i think X and Y is/are prs and A and B are cits" or the "hey im cit" thats anti town play becasue you narrow the pool of PRs to begin with. becasue now scums:

know whos a cit and whos not
narrows the pool of cit possiblities
allows them to use any scum role not on the cit claimer

if smoene got jailed and they come out to say "hey i was jailed" it says a diffrent story entirely:

we know we have a jailor
it does not disclose if the jailed perosn is PR or not
it means the jailor trusted their claim/reasons

its about the context of what is said overall. feedback is not the same as claiming

[ika]

and yes i do know what poe stand for its process of elimination.

[ika]

ccant do you have a point to the semantic debate?

[ccantman]

I meant to say, I don't know what POE stand for

[ika]

I meant to say, I don't know what POE stand for

ah ok that makes more sense.

i actualy want to see more from @Sinon about his reads and stuff. apoun reread of it, it was a lot of words for a lot of what looks like nothing and emptyness

[ccantman]

becasue my vote was based on the backing of POE and i can quote it if you like. yours is based on unexplained guts.

while you quoted me with what looks like empty reaosns its a sefl implied that i would have reasons or readss most people here know i work on a poe stance.

TLDR: my vote was based on poe and not feelings

You say you voted on POE, but your Pow doesn't make sense

yzb there right? they are weak reasonins based on what i have seen.

the non-posters are null
whad is town for jumping in and playing right away
stero is null scum for what whad pointed out
ccant is just trolling the thread with the stealth vote and does nothing to push the game foward
your actualy posting so im gonna say town
GET has done nothing town at all and is only antagonizing me right now and not only contradicted themselfs already, but are making it a very weak attempt to scum read me

GET does nothing town
Stero is null scum
I'm trolling.

"I've done nothing to push the game forward" and "done nothing town" are different how?
Are you saying random voting someone would of helped more? because that seems like it would of accomplished the same thing.
And if not pushing the game foward is scum, how is the vote for me when stero in your eye is the null scum?
I'm scum for trolling? and yet the null scum isn't scum?

Contradictions like thise left an uneasy feel. this is why I think I feel like you are scummy if I reflect on things

[Lady Gauss]

ah ok that makes more sense.

i actualy want to see more from @Sinon about his reads and stuff. apoun reread of it, it was a lot of words for a lot of what looks like nothing and emptyness

His exploration of Whad was pretty solid and he reduced the Stereo argument to a smoldering pile of ash. But yeah I'd like to hear his thoughts on others more.

Anyway, yeah that post addressing you has gotta be the most intellectual roasting I've ever read.

[ika]

You say you voted on POE, but your Pow doesn't make sense



GET does nothing town
Stero is null scum
I'm trolling.

"I've done nothing to push the game forward" and "done nothing town" are different how?
get has been pushing for reads and fighting at least, you have been doing nothing that is scum hunting
Are you saying random voting someone would of helped more? because that seems like it would of accomplished the same thing.
voting the host/non players is not the same as voting a player.
And if not pushing the game foward is scum, how is the vote for me when stero in your eye is the null scum?
if you read the post i scum read him for a seprate reason of yours. stero has not been trollign and instead answered questions
I'm scum for trolling? and yet the null scum isn't scum?
null scum menas leanign scum but not a full on scum read. your trolling did nothing to progress the gamestate as i pointed out and insteads keeps us in RVS.


Contradictions like thise left an uneasy feel. this is why I think I feel like you are scummy if I reflect on things

contracictions =/= scum this has been proven over and over again

if you think im scummy for contradictions then you can vote me for flawed reasoning

[ika]

His exploration of Whad was pretty solid and he reduced the Stereo argument to a smoldering pile of ash. But yeah I'd like to hear his thoughts on others more.

Anyway, yeah that post addressing you has gotta be the most intellectual roasting I've ever read.

it does not really, ive seen both towns and scum use the "town outside of town" type thing that whad pointed out.

you should also read my post where i have responded to it and how he puts everything i have said way out of proportion and my post on what he did was showing how in objective formats that what he did was bad.

but plz continue to side with PTB and continue to endorse personal insults. its makes the site soooooo much better to have stuff like personal insults

[ika]

How I would have answered isn't the point here. The point is that YOU are acting suspicious and I'm not going to let you deflect it back onto me.

Excluding yourself from the entity!!? This still makes it seem like you are not part of the townsfolk.

Gut vibe is that it's Lady Gauss/Stereo. I would expect yzb to pick up on Stereo's scumminess but it seems like he is trying to help brush it under the rug.

ika/GET is TvT. Get over it guys.

@Whad you should answer him becasue he answered your question and if anythign it looks like you are deflecting it now

[ccantman]

contracictions =/= scum this has been proven over and over again

if you think im scummy for contradictions then you can vote me for flawed reasoning

Timeline:
Game starts
Whad makes vote on me for 'reason"
I troll and go to sleep ( so in retrospect random voting someone is beter)
GET adds random standard Mesk opening
Whad is onbaord with mesk being town
Stero votes GET for "reason"
Whad an stero discuss my random voting
MESK is doing Mesk things
Lady gives some random insight.
I then wake up, to this above parapraph.

Maybe for someone more experienced they can get a read on the above, but given the above I get no read. so I have no vote on anyone

At this time I also have no questions directed at me
You then vote me

So while Stero has not been troling, I also had no questions asked of me to answer seriously.

So was I trolling yes? Did any thing of note happen between the time I trolled (which is clear trolling based on my votes) and I was voted?

Also I am not good with with these acrynmys? RVS?

I didn't progress the game state, but had I said
"Damn your name is spelt wrong -vote GET"
And then go to sleep, how much further along would the game state really have been?

[Lady Gauss]

it does not really, ive seen both towns and scum use the "town outside of town" type thing that whad pointed out.

you should also read my post where i have responded to it and how he puts everything i have said way out of proportion and my post on what he did was showing how in objective formats that what he did was bad.

but plz continue to side with PTB and continue to endorse personal insults. its makes the site soooooo much better to have stuff like personal insults

I never thought I'd endorse personal insults. However, if someone called me "imperious" then, after quickly referring to the dictionary to learn why I should be offended, I'd feel kinda happy such high-class language was required to explain why I'm an asshole.

If everyone here insulted eachother like that, my life would be fucking amazing.

It's the internet after all. Nothing should be taken to heart here.

[Lady Gauss]

I never thought I'd endorse personal insults. However, if someone called me "imperious" then, after quickly referring to the dictionary to learn why I should be offended, I'd feel kinda happy such high-class language was required to explain why I'm an asshole.

If everyone here insulted eachother like that, my life would be fucking amazing.

It's the internet after all. Nothing should be taken to heart here.

Like, I don't want anyone to think I'd ever endorse an insult, but this one time I'm gonna endorse an insult.

[ika]

I never thought I'd endorse personal insults. However, if someone called me "imperious" then, after quickly referring to the dictionary to learn why I should be offended, I'd feel kinda happy such high-class language was required to explain why I'm an asshole.

If everyone here insulted eachother like that, my life would be fucking amazing.

It's the internet after all. Nothing should be taken to heart here.

the internet does not make it vaild to do such things, we are all still people at the end of the day. i already explained why its not an act of authroity at all and instead a simple "this is what mafia is"

i didnt take it as an insult but you bascily tried to make the context of it that it was one. thats what i was getting at. if you saw, i addressed the post in a manner that i told him that he was using words in my mouth when what i say is more of laymans of what mafia is.

if you want to continue the smatic we can talk post game cus im not boiling to down to this in games

Timeline:
Game starts
Whad makes vote on me for 'reason"
I troll and go to sleep ( so in retrospect random voting someone is beter)
GET adds random standard Mesk opening
Whad is onbaord with mesk being town
Stero votes GET for "reason"
his reason was RVS (random voting stage)
Whad an stero discuss my random voting
MESK is doing Mesk things
Lady gives some random insight.
I then wake up, to this above parapraph.

Maybe for someone more experienced they can get a read on the above, but given the above I get no read. so I have no vote on anyone
ok, this is more or less my point, you have no reads your not making waves your not doing anytrhing by you own self admission. how about you quesiton someone or push someone or sipulate about scum roles or anything

At this time I also have no questions directed at me
You then vote me
again, you playing on reacitons. dont wait for someone do it yourself, take charge and psuh the game foward yourself. i explained the vot eon you

So while Stero has not been troling, I also had no questions asked of me to answer seriously.
again, not the point. stero had questions and had them answered you are sitting here waiting for something to come to you. if you are town you should not be doing that, you should be pushing

So was I trolling yes? Did any thing of note happen between the time I trolled (which is clear trolling based on my votes) and I was voted?
that is open to player interpitation, FMPOV a lot did, FYPOV i take it you think nothing happened

Also I am not good with with these acrynmys? RVS?
random voting stage

I didn't progress the game state, but had I said
"Damn your name is spelt wrong -vote GET"
And then go to sleep, how much further along would the game state really have been?

it would of been better then what you did by voting mod becasue then GET has 2 votes and if there were a 3rd or 4th on there then we could go "hey look at these votes is it scum or town"

by voting outside of the game and trolling you have done nothing to push it foward. voting in the game pushes it foward becasue then someone could quote you and vote you off another what would be trolling reason or read your post as scum for it