Night one

[FM Zaheer]

Yeah, in the end I think prep could be the best, they dont get notified and it bypasses everything, also every important role bypasses detection immunity anyway. I´m going to prep Gerik then, if we take him an oz out the day chat looses at least 2 leaders, espacially Gerik is pressuring for scum reads e.t.c.

[FM Ming-Hua]

Leave oz, he isn't an issue.

[FM Unalaq]

So what sbhould I do?

[FM Zaheer]

So what sbhould I do?

I think you should enact the kill this night, if you roleblock someone random it could harm more as help I think. Our tracker should just track Slaol or someone active, that can give us some information at least.

[FM Zaheer]

I think rumpel would be a good target as factional kill, he did a decent amount of stuff, but I dont think he earned enough trust to get protection from someone.

[FM P'Li]

I think rumpel would be a good target as factional kill, he did a decent amount of stuff, but I dont think he earned enough trust to get protection from someone.

yeah, no.

I'm FM rumpel

I guess I'll be tracking slaol

[FM P'Li]

our blackmailer didn't fulfill 5posts :/

who should go for the factional kill? I think I may be a pretty good choice

[FM Zaheer]

Oh well, thats interesting. XD

Anyway, ncie I can compelte the lsit then:

FM Auckmid - Zaheer - Phoenix King
FM Ganondorf - Ming-Hua - Consiglere
FM GoonSwarm - Unalaq - Consort
FM Northstar -Aiwei - Blackmailer
FM Philie - Ghazan - Crown Princess
FM Rumpel - P'Li - Tracker

[FM Zaheer]

our blackmailer didn't fulfill 5posts :/

who should go for the factional kill? I think I may be a pretty good choice

I think the consort is better, your action helps us more as his at least this night.

[FM P'Li]

I think the consort is better, your action helps us more as his at least this night.

yeah ok, if he forgot or something can phoenix king override his actions?

[FM Zaheer]

yeah ok, if he forgot or something can phoenix king override his actions?

I have no idea to be honest and I will go to sleep in a few minutes. I will just try it, who should he kill?

[FM P'Li]

I have no idea to be honest and I will go to sleep in a few minutes. I will just try it, who should he kill?

i think yayap or jack

you should try prepping gerik, if we can kill him town should be far less active

also I will indicate who slaol visited by the number of words in my first post, each number corresponds to a player based on the player list

[FM Zaheer]

i think yayap or jack

you should try prepping gerik, if we can kill him town should be far less active

also I will indicate who slaol visited by the number of words in my first post, each number corresponds to a player based on the player list

what, if he visted noone?

[FM Ming-Hua]

I was thinking something like this.

I want to reveal the Cabbage Merchant so I came up with a plan. You are to claim Cabbage Merchant, you need to specify your role, but it doesn't really matter to me which one you pick. It won't work if you don't come across completely serious so you have to make it convincing. It will probably help to explain why you decided to claim. You can't back out unless the real Cabbage Merchant claims, in which case you not only can but should. I will do my best to help you if anything goes wrong. I am also leaving you a one time pad in case you need to communicate me, don't use it except in extreme circumstances. Here is information on how to use it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad

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[FM Ming-Hua]

what, if he visted noone?

A post longer than 30 players should work fine.

[FM P'Li]

what, if he visted noone?

more than 30

[FM Zaheer]

A post longer than 30 players should work fine.

That works I guess, also that demand looks more like a request to me and why should we help town and reveal oruselve with it?

[FM Ming-Hua]

That works I guess, also that demand looks more like a request to me and why should we help town and reveal oruselve with it?

We won't, the point is to make it look like a gypsy curse, it shares a feedback with the blackmailer demand. Even though it is worded friendly I'm pretty sure it clearly states what must be done, and what can be done. If you disagree we can make some changes to fix that.

[FM Zaheer]

We won't, the point is to make it look like a gypsy curse, it shares a feedback with the blackmailer demand. Even though it is worded friendly I'm pretty sure it clearly states what must be done, and what can be done. If you disagree we can make some changes to fix that.

Well words like probably give him the option to not do it already, you just need to take out all variablities and make it a must do, so he cant avoid it by any means, that is basically the trick.

On the other hand there are nearly always way to avoid something, if the person is smart enough.

[FM Ming-Hua]

Well words like probably give him the option to not do it already, you just need to take out all variablities and make it a must do, so he cant avoid it by any means, that is basically the trick.

On the other hand there are nearly always way to avoid something, if the person is smart enough.

Well the point is I gave him things he must do and gave him some options intentionally.

The way I wrote it I intended that he MUST:

Claim some version of Cabbage Merchant.
Claim in a serious way that people may believe him.
Only retract his claim if the real Cabbage Merchant claims.

He MAY:

Pick which role he would like to claim.
Create an explanation for why he waited until day 2 to claim.
Retract his claim ONLY IF he gets counterclaimed.
Send us a message if he so desires.

[FM Zaheer]

Well the point is I gave him things he must do and gave him some options intentionally.

The way I wrote it I intended that he MUST:

Claim some version of Cabbage Merchant.
Claim in a serious way that people may believe him.
Only retract his claim if the real Cabbage Merchant claims.

He MAY:

Pick which role he would like to claim.
Create an explanation for why he waited until day 2 to claim.
Retract his claim ONLY IF he gets counterclaimed.
Send us a message if he so desires.

Interesting, lets just go with it and see what happens, Aiwei needs to submit it thought. Anyway I´m going to sleep now, dont forget to submit your actions as Pm from your normal Fm acc and may the odds be in our favour.

[FM Ghazan]

Make sure posting that Wiki Link is allowed.

[FM Ming-Hua]

Links are allowed unless abused, so until notified otherwise I'm protected.

[FM Ming-Hua]

Can everyone compare that blackmail with my intent and make sure it checks out? Also tell me whether you think it might be taken as gypsy or not feel free to suggest changes or alternative uses for the blackmail.

[Forum Mafia GM]

I was thinking something like this.

8- Codes and Encrypted Messages:
All codes must be made within this game. No codes from previous games or from outside discussion are allowed. All codes must be made in such a way that anyone who knows the code may de-code it without the use of any outside programs/websites.

The code isn't allowed since it requires an outside website in order to be solved.

[FM Unalaq]

Yeah I should be the kill. I think Yayap will suffice.

[FM Ming-Hua]

[ QUOTE=Avatar Roku;468131]The code isn't allowed since it requires an outside website in order to be solved.[/QUOTE]

Sorry I misinterpreted that rule, I thought it would be okay be the site was to inform about the code it isn't required to decrypt the code, only the key which I provided.

[FM Ming-Hua]

So anyone know any other good codes?

[FM Ming-Hua]

I wanted it there because I thought it established credibility to the town side I honestly don't expect it to be used.

[FM Unalaq]

Well I sort of have a code but im not sure how good it is :/
2nd Layer-1st Layer-English
O-Y-A
B-P-B
M-L-C
D-T-D
Y-A-E
J-V-F
G-K-G
N-R-H
A-E-I
W-Z-J
K-G-K
S-M-L
C-S-M
R-H-N
I-U-O
P-B-P
Q-X-Q
H-N-R
L-C-S
T-D-T
E-I-U
Z-J-V
V-F-W
X-Q-X
U-O-Y
F-W-Z

[FM Ming-Hua]

I don't get it.

[FM Unalaq]

Lihhu = Cunno = Sorry. Each letter replaces another. Certain letters loop with one another to cause groupings

[FM Unalaq]

Basically the letter groups are like this

A-E-I-U-O-Y-A
B-P-B-P-B
S-M-L-C
D-T-D-T-D
W-Z-J-V-F
G-K-G-K-G
N-R-H
Q-X-Q-X-Q

[FM Ming-Hua]

The middle column seems irrelevant. It appears that code is a complicated version of a substitution cipher defined by the first and last columns. We could use a substitution cipher though since it isn't actually going to be used, and if it is we don't really care if is cracked.

[FM Unalaq]

The middle column was how the cypher originally was. I just added an extra layer

[FM Ming-Hua]

Right, but in doing so you can remove the middle layer and do a direct substitution. The middle layer doesn't add any strength to the code only complexity.

[FM Ming-Hua]

I change parts of the message too, but here is a new version that is hopefully accepted.

Would this be an acceptable blackmail and code?

I want to find the Cabbage Merchant so I came up with a plan. You must claim Cabbage Merchant, you need to specify your role, but it doesn't really matter to me which one you pick. It won't work if you don't come across completely serious so you have to make it convincing. It will probably help to explain why you decided to claim. You must not back out unless the real Cabbage Merchant claims, in which case you not only can but should. I would prefer that nobody knows I forced you to do this, so you must not tell anybody. I will try to help you if I can, but I won't out myself unless absolutely necessary.

If for any reason you need to communicate with me use this cipher to communicate, to encode a message replace each occurrence of the characters on the right with the corresponding character on the left, to decode I'll replace each occurrence of the characters on the left with the corresponding character on the right. Don't use this unless absolutely necessary. If absolutely necessary I may attempt to communicate with you with the same cipher.

O-A
B-D
M-C
D-B
Y-E
J-F
G-K
N-H
A-I
W-J
K-G
S-L
C-M
R-N
I-O
P-Q
Q-P
H-R
L-S
T-X
E-U
Z-V
V-W
X-T
U-Y
F-Z

[FM Ming-Hua]

Oh and my vote is we send it to raiden. It's more plausible coming from him since he made his 5 posts, but didn't do the post for toph.

[FM Ming-Hua]

Adding Todays Night Actions to the List!

I actually added a suggestion of killing Divemaster on my list he wasn't that active but I thought what he did say was useful.

FM Auckmid - Zaheer - Phoenix King - Prep Gerik
FM Ganondorf - Ming-Hua - Consigliere - Investigate Zach
FM GoonSwarm - Unalaq - Consort - Kill Yapyap or Jack or Divemaster?
FM Northstar -Aiwei - Blackmailer - Blackmail Raiden?
FM Philie - Ghazan - Crown Princess - Charge ? ?
FM Rumpel - P'Li - Tracker - Follow Slaol

[Slaol]

I change parts of the message too, but here is a new version that is hopefully accepted.

Would this be an acceptable blackmail and code?

The blackmail is yours to decide if acceptable. The code does not need off site information so is within the rules of the game

[Slaol]

yeah ok, if he forgot or something can phoenix king override his actions?

If a player personally submits action that action will take priority. If someone misses an action the action may be declared by Ozai, Azula, or whomever posts it last. Ozai having priority, then Azula.

[FM Unalaq]

I will kill Yayap.

[FM Ghazan]

I will charge FM Procyon and kill him.

[FM Ghazan]

Change of mind. Charge FM Procyon and FM TheJackofSpades

Just in case of the small chance they visit each other.
If not I can easily murder them both tomorrow.

[FM Zaheer]

Oh lol totally forgot that nights are also 48 hours. Well awesome to know that i can submit actions for others, I like your idea Ghazan, didnt thought of that you could just double charge 2 persons in 2 nights.

[FM Zaheer]

FM Auckmid - Zaheer - Phoenix King - Prep Gerik
FM Ganondorf - Ming-Hua - Consigliere - Investigate Zack
FM GoonSwarm - Unalaq - Consort - Kill Yapyap
FM Northstar -Aiwei - Blackmailer -
FM Philie - Ghazan - Crown Princess - Charge FM Procyon & FM TheJackofSpades
FM Rumpel - P'Li - Tracker - Track Slaol

[FM Zaheer]

If a player personally submits action that action will take priority. If someone misses an action the action may be declared by Ozai, Azula, or whomever posts it last. Ozai having priority, then Azula.

Is it enough to just post the actions in this chat?

[FM Aiwei]

-Blackmail Raiden

I want to find the Cabbage Merchant so I came up with a plan. You must claim Cabbage Merchant, you need to specify your role, but it doesn't really matter to me which one you pick. It won't work if you don't come across completely serious so you have to make it convincing. It will probably help to explain why you decided to claim. You must not back out unless the real Cabbage Merchant claims, in which case you not only can but should. I would prefer that nobody knows I forced you to do this, so you must not tell anybody. I will try to help you if I can, but I won't out myself unless absolutely necessary.

If for any reason you need to communicate with me use this cipher to communicate, to encode a message replace each occurrence of the characters on the right with the corresponding character on the left, to decode I'll replace each occurrence of the characters on the left with the corresponding character on the right. Don't use this unless absolutely necessary. If absolutely necessary I may attempt to communicate with you with the same cipher.

O-A
B-D
M-C
D-B
Y-E
J-F
G-K
N-H
A-I
W-J
K-G
S-L
C-M
R-N
I-O
P-Q
Q-P
H-R
L-S
T-X
E-U
Z-V
V-W
X-T
U-Y
F-Z

[FM Aiwei]

sorry about my inactivity. I recently found a girlfriend and she has been distracting me alot lately.

[FM Zaheer]

sorry about my inactivity. I recently found a girlfriend and she has been distracting me alot lately.

Np, but be sure to fullfill the post requierement next day, we dont want to see you getting modkilled.^^