S-FM 119 Accursed Ascension

[Poriomania]

Okay put your vote on me, then.

[Orpz]

not until Mateo does

he got me my win
i will sheep him

[Poriomania]

Okay.

I'm out.

[Orpz]

How many guns can I use in one night?

Pls be "unlimited". I can't discharge my guns fast enuff

[Damus_Graves]

Why would you be shooting me? My track record this game speaks for itself.

[Orpz]

wat if i dont like the way u easily accepted CC's Chaotic Evil Mourner claim when u r Chaotic Evil Mourner

u should have called him out on his gay shit right away if u were legit

[Damus_Graves]

wat if i dont like the way u easily accepted CC's Chaotic Evil Mourner claim when u r Chaotic Evil Mourner

u should have called him out on his gay shit right away if u were legit

I have already said I suspected him and I was silenced before. What are you confused about?

[Orpz]

You were fast to pull off CC and vote Ika.
Silencer can target teammates.

[Damus_Graves]

You were fast to pull off CC and vote Ika.
Silencer can target teammates.

Black Abbot is immune to death as long as his teammates are alive.

[Orpz]

You accepted his role claim instead of attempting to subtly hinting that he's a liar.

[Damus_Graves]

You accepted his role claim instead of attempting to subtly hinting that he's a liar.

There was still the chance that he was an actual Mourner. There isn't anything in the setup I saw that said there can only be one type of mourner in the game at once.

[Orpz]

Incorrect. I make it a point to outright lie in every single instance where I am a Citizen. My goals in such cases are to debunk the Blood in the Water that Town smells when someone is caught out in their WIFOM. There aren't enough reasonable thinking in the cases of people getting voted to warrant the amount of attention on them. What you have suggested here is the very basic of lying in games and it is incredibly underused in games to matter. Most who throw themselves under only do so when it most benefits their faction. Not to just nail their aggressors. More often than not it is a Town on Town battle and doing as you suggest here only removes a single town from the two town scenario. Please stop spreading non utility information and begin playing the game. I'm getting annoyed with your monotone "contributions".

I got a sense that you're a risk-taker as a Citizen from this post; yet you accepted those unlikely odds

[Damus_Graves]

I got a sense that you're a risk-taker as a Citizen from this post; yet you accepted those unlikely odds

I change my meta play every game to counter act WIFOM/Meta Hunters. That post explains what I have done in the past and leaves the idea that I could do it again. It doesn't guarantee that I will.
This game I didn't. Besides TheJester claimed that Ika was lying in the first place.

[Damus_Graves]

It was a strong claim to have been made from TheJester in the first place. On that day I had more faith in him than I did ika. Even though TheJester turned out to be a liar.

[TheJester]

Damus_Graves is Chaotic Evil.

-vote CarolinaCrown

[TheJester]

I'm, as been clearly shown all game, a Mourner, Chaotic Evil.

Of course...

[TheJester]

Eh... Ill be right back.

[Mateo]

i am here to save the day

orpz, you didnt receive a gun n2?

confirm my n2 action registered

unless host error, damus is the thief and cc is the black abbot. he stole my gun n2, then after pushing ika to be lynched he faked being silenced. he claims chaotic evil, same alignment as thief.

vote damus_graves

gg

[Mateo]

it is not an actual vote because neither damus or cc can be lynched today. once host confirms i will be voting to skip the day and ask orpz to shoot damus tonite. that is unless scum wants to forfeit

[CarolinaCrown]

i am here to save the day

orpz, you didnt receive a gun n2?

confirm my n2 action registered

unless host error, damus is the thief and cc is the black abbot. he stole my gun n2, then after pushing ika to be lynched he faked being silenced. he claims chaotic evil, same alignment as thief.

vote damus_graves

gg

Thief target is notified if his ability is stolen. If you weren't notified, you weren't robbed.

-vote TheJester

== Evil Moralist, Damus is Abbot.

[Orpz]

I got a gun on night 2, I withheld that just in case you needed to prove your role but it turns out everyone else claimed already

[Mateo]

o ok. nevertheless, thejester is town

black abbot-
vamp- kusco fear conjurer
vamp- slaol silencer
vamp-
town- mateo artificer
town- clem spy
town- rlvg cleric
town- q2 escort
town- ika cit
town- citrus cit
town- porio cit
town-
agent- orpz exe

leaving damus, thejester and cc. if we assume damus is town, then he didnt lie about being silenced n2. so both nights slaol was busy bming, the last maf was busy killing. so no investigations for maf.

[CarolinaCrown]

o ok. nevertheless, thejester is town

black abbot-
vamp- kusco fear conjurer
vamp- slaol silencer
vamp-
town- mateo artificer
town- clem spy
town- rlvg cleric
town- q2 escort
town- ika cit
town- citrus cit
town- porio cit
town-
agent- orpz exe

leaving damus, thejester and cc. if we assume damus is town, then he didnt lie about being silenced n2. so both nights slaol was busy bming, the last maf was busy killing. so no investigations for maf.

Why do you think thejester is town?

[TheJester]

1.Ika - mourner/dead
2.Mateo - chaotic good - possibly artificer
3.TheJester - true neutral/Druid
4.CarolinaCrown - chaotic evil? Abbot? Mourner?
5.Slaol - chaotic good/only one who visited poriomania - silencer
6.Citrus - ???/mourner/dead
7.Orpz - true neutral/amnes/exe
8.Clementine - spy/chaotic evil/dead
9._Q2 - modkilled
10.Poriomania lawful good? Mourner?
11.Damus_Graves - chaotic evil! abbot? Mourner?
12.RLVG - lawful good/cleric/dead
13.Kusco - Lawful Evil/Fear conjurer/dead

6 people still alive,
1 confirmed town
1 confirmed neut
1 PR
3 mourner claimers(2 claimed chaotic evil)

Options A: NL and depend on Orpz
Option B: Lynch the non chaotic evil mourner and depend on Orpz if wrong

Either way, we are depending on Orpz, he can easily just give his win to mafia :/
Fortunately Mateo is sided with the town.

You fail to realize that silencer can silence his own teammates.

[TheJester]

o ok. nevertheless, thejester is town

black abbot-
vamp- kusco fear conjurer
vamp- slaol silencer
vamp-
town- mateo artificer
town- clem spy
town- rlvg cleric
town- q2 escort
town- ika cit
town- citrus cit
town- porio cit
town-
agent- orpz exe

leaving damus, thejester and cc. if we assume damus is town, then he didnt lie about being silenced n2. so both nights slaol was busy bming, the last maf was busy killing. so no investigations for maf.

If you assume Damus is town, then you are basically admitting you are mafia since he is taking your last slot as town.

[Orpz]

It's probably Porio and CC

[CarolinaCrown]

It's probably Porio and CC

The mafia are going to kill Mateo tonight, since he's the only confirmed town. If we lynch a mafia today, I encourage you to shoot me - it'll bring tomorrow to 1v1v1 and I trust you to side with town and make a smart decision on who the abbot is.

If we lynch a town today, shoot someone. Obviously I don't want you to shoot me, but that's not my call to make. You'll need to shoot someone if you're going to keep the mafia from getting a majority.

If there's no lynch today, I would not shoot. If you make the wrong decision, that's game.


Possible Pairs (Keep in mind that there is no communication between the last two mafia):
Damus+Me - Unlikely, two scum probably wouldn't claim the same role and alignment.
Damus+Porio - Damus is unlynchable because TJ is telling the truth
Damus+TJ - TJ covering up for his lack of investigation last night (he killed instead) by giving an alignment he already knows
Me+Porio - Possible
Me+TJ - Possible
Porio+TJ - Possible

Now that I think of it, Porio's play seems like someone unlynchable trying to get lynched to waste a lynch day. But I think porio plays a level above that. I think he's trying to seem unlynchable.

-vote Poriomania

[TheJester]

If you assume Damus is town, then you are basically admitting you are mafia since he is taking your last slot as town.

Nevermind, didnt see who wrote this.

[TheJester]

Also, if we are planning to not lynch, I encourage you to lynch CarolinaCrown instead.
If he is chaotic evil, it will still be no lynch. If he is anything else, then we lynched a mafia.
A town wouldn't lie about his alignment.

[CarolinaCrown]

Also, if we are planning to not lynch, I encourage you to lynch CarolinaCrown instead.
If he is chaotic evil, it will still be no lynch. If he is anything else, then we lynched a mafia.
A town wouldn't lie about his alignment.

Perhaps. I think due to TJ's feedback, Damus is Chaotic Evil in basically any combination of pairs, but my alignment hasn't been confirmed yet. If you try to lynch me today, it'll still be 2v1v2 tomorrow if Orpz doesn't shoot. The only problem is, it only confirms my alignment, not my towniness. So I don't know if that really helps. That suggestion makes me suspicious of TJ again.

-vote TheJester

Can you provide us with a complete list of your feedbacks?

[Orpz]

-vote Poriomania

Shooting CC tonight

[Mateo]

thejester and porio are town orpz. they were teh earliest pressure votes on kusco day1. damus was fence sitting and defending both slaol and kusco until it became obvious kusco was gonna sink, then he went into overdrive bussing and trying to seem town. the irony being, the blood bound mechanic makes it so vamp can directly accuse his black abbot without fear, since it will give town points but the ba is in no danger.

[Orpz]

-unvote

fuck the litanny mechanics

[CarolinaCrown]

thejester and porio are town orpz. they were teh earliest pressure votes on kusco day1. damus was fence sitting and defending both slaol and kusco until it became obvious kusco was gonna sink, then he went into overdrive bussing and trying to seem town. the irony being, the blood bound mechanic makes it so vamp can directly accuse his black abbot without fear, since it will give town points but the ba is in no danger.

Pressure votes that early don't mean a whole lot. How are you so sure of TJ?

[Mateo]

Pressure votes that early don't mean a whole lot. How are you so sure of TJ?

Stuff n Things, Bro

[Orpz]

who r we lyching?
who am i shooting?

discuss. mateo has the final say.

btw 4 citizens is too much for this setup. 3 citizens is max imo, so I think 2 scums r between porio, damus, and cc.
im leaving to go celebrate my friends bday so im leaving my vote

-vote Poriomania

[Mateo]

*warning* incoming walls

[Mateo]

Incorrect. I make it a point to outright lie in every single instance where I am a Citizen. My goals in such cases are to debunk the Blood in the Water that Town smells when someone is caught out in their WIFOM. There aren't enough reasonable thinking in the cases of people getting voted to warrant the amount of attention on them. What you have suggested here is the very basic of lying in games and it is incredibly underused in games to matter. Most who throw themselves under only do so when it most benefits their faction. Not to just nail their aggressors. More often than not it is a Town on Town battle and doing as you suggest here only removes a single town from the two town scenario. Please stop spreading non utility information and begin playing the game. I'm getting annoyed with your monotone "contributions".

starts by setting up his personality for the game by being aloof, wifoming, endorses lying as town, suggests people should throw themselves under *cough*kusco*cough* complains about ppl not taking game seriously. also note that the scenario he talks about here is the same scenario we had the next day with ika and thejester, only that time he supported it.

Why are we focused on lynching the Amnesiac when we can lynch scum and Orpz can convert into a town role?

if porio is mafia he didnt take the easy way to derail kusco pressure by jumping on orpz

How do we know that's a fake claim? If you were that role, you could be trying to communicate to your teammates. Why choose that role to claim?



Sorry I was distracted with a handjob. I can't call it a fuck since it was self-administered. So far I can't really complain at all about people until I get some reads. Right now I think Clem is smoking something shitty or she was slipped something and she thinks she's sober. I can't say for sure so that's why I'm not taking that pressure seriously.



Using your own meta to prove your role is complete bullshit. Stop fucking around and take the game seriously.

half-assed distancing from damus

We are lynching Kusco today.

cc, this is more than just pressure from porio. he was set to lynch kusco even before he defense went to total shit.

There is also a large number of cases where lying has increased the chance of town winning.

Now stop this piddle and take this serious.

@Kusco

thats the closest thing to OMGUS I have seen without a vote,

again advocates town lying, fence sitting on kusco

You don't get to decide that.

fence sitting, soft kusco defense

so you are admitting to being a fuckhead who has to nitpick to defend himself? LOL OK!

-vote Kusco

This moron understood what I said and decided to make an excuse not to respond. What idiot

after this point, damus does a 180 and goes from aloof wifom to "scum hunting", picking apart kuscos defense. by the numbers bussing, the opportunity that kusco referred to. also likes to talk about sfm ladder but keeps throwing suspicion back to clem for her wifom defense of kusco. really, anyone thats played a single game with clem knows she wouldnt be that obvious as scum. stops acting seriously, which he criticized others for doing.

[TheJester]

Perhaps. I think due to TJ's feedback, Damus is Chaotic Evil in basically any combination of pairs, but my alignment hasn't been confirmed yet. If you try to lynch me today, it'll still be 2v1v2 tomorrow if Orpz doesn't shoot. The only problem is, it only confirms my alignment, not my towniness. So I don't know if that really helps. That suggestion makes me suspicious of TJ again.

-vote TheJester

Can you provide us with a complete list of your feedbacks?

Night 1 Slaol - CG
Night 2 Mateo - CG
Night 3 - DG - CE

[Mateo]

jester what do you suggest our plan of action should be

[TheJester]

It is in town's best interest to not lynch today. If we lynch Porio, chances are it is going to be a mislynch.
If we have a ML, then its 2v1v2 and mafia is killing whoever. Orpz have 50% chance to hit Abbot. Abbot is night immune until all mafia buddies are dead.

If we do not lynch, and Orpz hit Abbot, it will still be LyLo and town can still win from there.

Now its up to us to figure out if both CC and DG are scummier than Porio
If so, we should no lynch.

If you guys want to not lynch, vote CarolinaCrown. Its a Win-Nothing Situation. Either CC get lynched for lying, or it will go to NL like we planned.

[TheJester]

Which is more likely to you? Abbot and Thief combo, or Abbot and Consigliere Combo?

[Mateo]

im not sure about the 3rd maf. i have reasons for thinking he is consig, however, the only night he could use his night action would be n2. so he would hide as a cit since he cant use his action to verify himself.

[Mateo]

ok orpz buddy, lets lay out the game plan. we will lynch/ attempt to lynch cc today. if:

cc dies and flips scum, shoot damus tonight or lynch tomorrow
cc dies and flips town, shoot thejester tonight, lynch damus tomorrow
if cc doesnt die to lynch, shoot damus tonight and lynch cc tomorrow

sound good?

[CarolinaCrown]

ok orpz buddy, lets lay out the game plan. we will lynch/ attempt to lynch cc today. if:

cc dies and flips scum, shoot damus tonight or lynch tomorrow
cc dies and flips town, shoot thejester tonight, lynch damus tomorrow
if cc doesnt die to lynch, shoot damus tonight and lynch cc tomorrow

sound good?

No it doesn't sound good

-vote Poriomania

I'm not sure if it's porio and damus or porio and TJ. Probably the first one. Anyone care to hammer?

[Poriomania]

I'm fine with being hammered.

I have been useless this game besides Day 1.

[Mateo]

No it doesn't sound good

-vote Poriomania

I'm not sure if it's porio and damus or porio and TJ. Probably the first one. Anyone care to hammer?

what are you afraid of? if you are really chaotic evil you wont die today, and the plan calls for damus to be shot tonight, the person you think is scum

keep grasping scum

-vote carolinacrown

[Banshis]

Nobody was Lynched

Once Night actions are in I will start day when I can to speed it up.

[Banshis]

Mateo was killed last night. He was an Artificer

The Black Abbot
Brother Salasso
Ebberon Hero
Ebberon Hero
Free Agent

Litany of the Dead
Chaotic Good is Immune Today

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...27th+7%3A00+pm

24 hour day.



3 votes to hammer.

[CarolinaCrown]

Well? Thoughts?