S-FM 247 Black Flag Nightless ll

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Yeah, almost only 30 hours.

What? Isn't it 5h 20 minutes left??

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Yeah, almost only 30 hours.

Oh god, facepalm to me... XD

[Arsonist]

Never said you were buddying with efeblink. The one pressure was myself lol, he's just shitposting and voting me because I have most votes. Also if you guys didn't know, EoD is near and if you all keep your votes there I die ^^

I left a summary - why i voted for you.
If you ignore serious messages, then shut up.

[Ratatoskr]

OzyWho
Marluxion
Marshmallow Marshall
Arsonist
Soviet_Love
Blinkykann07
Magoroth
Distorted
Scvmurderer

[Arsonist]

full of lies logical fallacies and EDITS. But this post gives a reason to lynch you ^^ to do that actually gives info now. I'm in for the lynch train! CHOO CHOO! Btw Scv has a day to redeem for his sins of being a scummy inactive guy.

I edited it once, reason was "scimpoints"
Also, click the links after "Originally posted by ###".

No lies, no logical fallacies, just info.
True info.

[Distorted]

full of lies logical fallacies and EDITS. But this post gives a reason to lynch you ^^ to do that actually gives info now. I'm in for the lynch train! CHOO CHOO! Btw Scv has a day to redeem for his sins of being a scummy inactive guy.

What info does lynching arsonist give if he flips town btw?

[Ratatoskr]

I edited it once, reason was "scimpoints"
Also, click the links after "Originally posted by ###".

No lies, no logical fallacies, just info.
True info.

Editing is illegal, I believe you were given a Final Warning earlier today. You may just want to live with your typos.

[Distorted]

Not yet. If he hasn't contributed significantly at EoD2 I will personally push his lynch. He can't read all that shit in 2 hours lol.

2 hours? day ends in 1 day and 5 hours

[Ratatoskr]

2 hours? day ends in 1 day and 5 hours

We got it bruh. Let's get back to the topic at hand. Which is (or should be) why am I still the only vote on Scv?

[Distorted]

We got it bruh. Let's get back to the topic at hand. Which is (or should be) why am I still the only vote on Scv?

because SCV is always like this - I don't really see him being so aggressive to just random lynch immediately as a scum; he is still scumread but dunno yet. I am trying to explore this MM soviet idea or maybe MM arsonist. When Arsonist came, him and MM started going at it pretty quickly, so makes me think maybe it is staged? curious to find out if arsonist is pushing MM with intent to lynch.

[Ratatoskr]

because SCV is always like this - I don't really see him being so aggressive to just random lynch immediately as a scum; he is still scumread but dunno yet. I am trying to explore this MM soviet idea or maybe MM arsonist. When Arsonist came, him and MM started going at it pretty quickly, so makes me think maybe it is staged? curious to find out if arsonist is pushing MM with intent to lynch.

Can you give a list of reads similar to how MM and myself did? I'm curious how you stand on things now.

[Distorted]

OzyWho
Marluxion
Marshmallow Marshall
Arsonist
Soviet_Love
Blinkykann07
Magoroth
Distorted
Scvmurderer

Also noticing that Ozy is strongly townread by most of the players, and it feels like that has almost caused him to start posting less? maybe does not want to destroy that image?

[Ganelon]

We got it bruh. Let's get back to the topic at hand. Which is (or should be) why am I still the only vote on Scv?

Because Scv is the NAI here. On one hand, no evil player would ever put themselves in the spotlight by stating stuff like 'If someone goes on L1 I will drop the hammer on them' - the evils have no factional kill, they would need to cause someone to mislynch, and by dropping the hammer on somebody they would be outing themselves nearly immediately. Then again, maybe Scv put that statement out there just so someone would come about and say that it would be too obvious a slip for an evil to make - remember, there are no investigative roles either.

[Ratatoskr]

Because Scv is the NAI here. On one hand, no evil player would ever put themselves in the spotlight by stating stuff like 'If someone goes on L1 I will drop the hammer on them' - the evils have no factional kill, they would need to cause someone to mislynch, and by dropping the hammer on somebody they would be outing themselves nearly immediately. Then again, maybe Scv put that statement out there just so someone would come about and say that it would be too obvious a slip for an evil to make - remember, there are no investigative roles either.

*cough* WIFOM *cough*

[Ganelon]

Exactly. I am going to ask Scvmurderer not to be throwing lynches at random - especially at his town reads. Speaking of which, could you give us your reads, Lynch Train? @Scvmurderer

[Ganelon]

especially not at**

[Distorted]

Exactly. I am going to ask Scvmurderer not to be throwing lynches at random - especially at his town reads. Speaking of which, could you give us your reads, Lynch Train? @Scvmurderer

hell let people throw votes anywhre, best info we can get =P

[Ganelon]

I was referring to hammering, not to pressure voting.

[Ratatoskr]

I want EVERYONE to post their lists of people from least suspicious to most suspicious...

GOGOGO!

[Soviet_Love]

Voting patterns, slips, buddyings, things like that. The fun in this kind of setup is that you can't use roles to find scums, you gotta read people!

Oh wow my whole meta is fucked LOL

[Ratatoskr]

Also noticing that Ozy is strongly townread by most of the players, and it feels like that has almost caused him to start posting less? maybe does not want to destroy that image?

Doesn't Ozy sleep during the day?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

2 hours? day ends in 1 day and 5 hours

I just believed ozy the liar XD

[Ganelon]

Least Suspicious:
Distorted
Blinkskater/Efekannn
Marshmallow
Scvmurderer (?) - Neutrals
Ratatoskr
OzyWho

Soviet_Love and Arsonist haven't yet posted enough shit for me to able to ID them.

[Soviet_Love]

There is way too much spam posting in this thread. UGh I don't want to read 30 pages of shitposts

[Soviet_Love]

I hardclaim sheriff. I invested Mag n1, he's clean folks

[Soviet_Love]

Jk I'm jailor. Let jailor jail! Fight against the mandatory lynch!

[Ganelon]

I'm Vigilante, shooting n1

[Ganelon]

BTW guys - there's 3 guests currently browsing this thread. Why is that?

[Soviet_Love]

Can someone give me a rundown of who is speaking on whose behalf, what teams there seems to be etc?

[Ratatoskr]

> Complains about spam
> Proceeds to spam

[Marshmallow Marshall]

What info does lynching arsonist give if he flips town btw?

Well, it makes the voters suspicious, we'll have to pressure Ozy more if Arsonist flips town. We'll trust more blinkykann, probably. Plus all the stuff that will happen in the vote patterns. Best lynch imo.

[Distorted]

Oh wow my whole meta is fucked LOL

yeah, these games are great practice for being able to read =P since literally nothing else can be done other than that

[Marshmallow Marshall]

> Complains about spam
> Proceeds to spam

True dat. Distorted: SEE THEY AGREE THEY'RE SCUM! :P

going back to hots

[Arsonist]

Least Suspicious:
Distorted
Blinkskater/Efekannn
Marshmallow
Scvmurderer (?) - Neutrals
Ratatoskr
OzyWho

Soviet_Love and Arsonist haven't yet posted enough shit for me to able to ID them.

I posted

[Arsonist]

There is way too much spam posting in this thread. UGh I don't want to read 30 pages of shitposts

This setup is a battle of scumbags and citixens, gain leads by looking what players say.

[Soviet_Love]

actually - that is a good catch.

this is garbage meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta

[Distorted]

Can someone give me a rundown of who is speaking on whose behalf, what teams there seems to be etc?

Rata suspects a possible me and efeblink team.
I suspect a possible MM and either Soviet or Arson team
Rata I have a neutral read on - he seems to be playing very aggressively, but also actively so im having a slight town lean
SCV is posting as usual, but very arrogantly, which im giving a town lean on.
efeblink - still neutal read, slight town though.

You are my #1 choice for a lynch unless you start pressuring people. I want to see people heavy pressure.

[Ganelon]

This setup is a battle of scumbags and citixens, gain leads by looking what players say.

Shitposted

[Distorted]

This setup is a battle of scumbags and citixens, gain leads by looking what players say.

Wrong, this setup is a battle of pirates and mutinees >=O how dare you devalue our ship into such simplistic roles!

[Ganelon]

Wrong, this setup is a battle of pirates and mutinees >=O how dare you devalue our ship into such simplistic roles!

Arr, fellow sailors! I come t'ye todae in hopes of a parlay: mayest thou pray prattle in Sea Speech? Methinks it will add RP value and be meer interesting' this wae.

[Blinkykannn07]

Fucking shitposters

[Soviet_Love]

Btw I see a few guys have stopped being online and didn't read all the stuff we wrote. They're gonna have a hard time getting back on reading... especially Soviet, who doesn't even know the game has started =(

FUCK!

[Soviet_Love]

I'm on like page 13. This thread has way too many pages.

Also, eventually people are going to say things like "DONT YOU EVEN READ" or "I POSTED THAT, NOT ____". There's waay too many posts to keep track of already. Starting out behind sucks

[Ganelon]

I'm on like page 13. This thread has way too many pages.

Also, eventually people are going to say things like "DONT YOU EVEN READ" or "I POSTED THAT, NOT ____". There's waay too many posts to keep track of already. Starting out behind sucks

Half of those aren't even worth reading.

[Blinkykannn07]

My main scumreads atm are MM and Mag

[Soviet_Love]

I am in favor of lynching someone who has posted a fair amount and gotten into disagreements. I think that town needs information. If we lynch people who are inactive (like me up until now) it doesn't really tell us anything. If we were to lynch like distorted, and he turns up town, and gives us info and we can think about who is trying to kill him. Same thing if we lynch rata or MM or one of the other poeple with high-post counts.

For this reason, I recommend that we lynch someone with a lot of posts.

[OzyWho]

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Also noticing that Ozy is strongly townread by most of the players, and it feels like that has almost caused him to start posting less? maybe does not want to destroy that image?

Tbh, I never posted a lot to begin with. Last night - almost nothing. Today - only a few posts when none was here. And then later replied to some messages LIVE.
I feel like I have posted like nothing tbh. Still better than having tons of posts with nothing real concrete in them.

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I want EVERYONE to post their lists of people from least suspicious to most suspicious...

GOGOGO!

Townies:
Distorted, Ratatoskr, Marluxion

Unsure of:
MM, Blink

Scummy:
Arsonist, SCV, Soviet_Love, Magoroth

Most of this is based on feelings. I have even forgotten who said what.

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There is way too much spam posting in this thread. UGh I don't want to read 30 pages of shitposts

I feel you. Worst of all - there is a period of like 100-150 posts with basically nothing.

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[Distorted]

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
Btw I see a few guys have stopped being online and didn't read all the stuff we wrote. They're gonna have a hard time getting back on reading... especially Soviet, who doesn't even know the game has started =(

FUCK!

waiiit. I may be reading too far into this, but is this a slip? "especially soviet?" why him specifically, and how would you KNOW he didnt know the game started yet? I mean it was listed up with a countdown timer so im sure he knew. But, you did not address Arsonist at all about not know....just soviet. I think you were making an excuse for soviet. followed by pushing back on not wanting to lynch an AFK, now AFTER soviet starts talking you seem OK with the idea of lynching shitposters/AFKs, and target Arsonist, whom started talking BEFORE soviet.

[Ganelon]

I am in favor of lynching someone who has posted a fair amount and gotten into disagreements. I think that town needs information. If we lynch people who are inactive (like me up until now) it doesn't really tell us anything. If we were to lynch like distorted, and he turns up town, and gives us info and we can think about who is trying to kill him. Same thing if we lynch rata or MM or one of the other poeple with high-post counts.

For this reason, I recommend that we lynch someone with a lot of posts.

Hold on a minute. Let's run the possibilities:

D1: 7C, 3G
D2: 6C, 3G/7C, 2G
D3: 5C, 3G/6C, 2G/7C 1G (WIN)
D4: 4C, 3G (LYLO)/ 5C, 2G/ 6C 1G (WIN)
D5: 3C, 3G(LOSS)/4C, 2G(ONE STEP FROM WIN/MYLO)/5C, 1G (WIN)

[Soviet_Love]

I was afk and now im not. thats the whole discussion lol. I don't think ive done anything other than shitpost and complaint about shitposting. Also I think we should lynch someone with high post counts. Like if town does lynch me, or Arsonist (idk if he's posted yet, but so far where im reading in the thread he hasn't) it doesn't give info.

Imagine you lynch me, and I turn up scum. What info does that reveal?
Imagien you lynch me, and I turn up town. What info does that reveal?

We need to lynch every single turn. The best strategy for town is to lynch someone whose death will actually give us some information. Wherever the heart of the tension among players seems to lie, we want to go there and strike to reveal roles. It's our main method of role-collecting and determining what strategy to follow.

So... unrelated... but.. does anyone know how to search for postcounts?