See this is why people get pissed at this game

[Bigtalon]

People need to seriously stop trolling, I helped DH, as witch, Game almost over, SK + 2 trad + me witch left, i tell triad DH I will make SK kill himself and not witch him, to not kill me, What does he do ? Kills me while I give him the win... I'm so sick of people trolling like kids, this should be against the rules because only way I can win is to help Triad / Mafia, and if they kill me on purpose thats bs

[Yukitaka Oni]

People need to seriously stop trolling, I helped DH, as witch, Game almost over, SK + 2 trad + me witch left, i tell triad DH I will make SK kill himself and not witch him, to not kill me, What does he do ? Kills me while I give him the win... I'm so sick of people trolling like kids, this should be against the rules because only way I can win is to help Triad / Mafia, and if they kill me on purpose thats bs

Welcome to the game of mafia.....trust no one, It's your fault for trust the devil 2 face. It's cruel, but it's also not count as a troll too

[Bigtalon]

Welcome to the game of mafia.....trust no one, It's your fault for trust the devil 2 face. It's cruel, but it's also not count as a troll too

there should be some rule against this tho, I helped them win, they knew who Iwas, and we worked together until the end where they killed me, to me that shouldn't be allowed, random sure, but wen they know and we are working together and then they kill me to give me the loss thats gay

[BananaCucho]

Nope. They are not obligated to give you a win.

[Bigtalon]

Nope. They are not obligated to give you a win.

so from now on as a witch, if I find triad / Mafia, I am making them kill themselves every time troll mode 100%

[BananaCucho]

so from now on as a witch, if I find triad / Mafia, I am making them kill themselves every time troll mode 100%

Yep. Go for solo witch win its worth it

[Cryptonic]

Yea, this is how you should play Evil Neutral:

Solo Win > Neutral Win > Mafia/Triad Win

Or as Benign Neutral:

Solo Win > Neutral Win > Underdog

[Yukitaka Oni]

Trust no one !!!!! No one!!!

[Bigtalon]

Trust no one !!!!! No one!!!

I still can't believe I trusted them :P

[Cryptonic]

One game as Witch for me came down to Witch, BG, GF.

I could've Witched the GF onto the BG and won with Mafia, but I instead decided to let the GF decide his own fate and witched the BG onto myself. Witch Win lol

[Orpz]

One game as Witch for me came down to Witch, BG, GF.

I could've Witched the GF onto the BG and won with Mafia, but I instead decided to let the GF decide his own fate and witched the BG onto myself. Witch Win lol

holy shit I would have loved to read the end game chat

[Archangel]

Stop making threads and spamming in general discussion please, Thanks.

[Bigtalon]

Stop making threads and spamming in general discussion please, Thanks.

Aren't the forums for posting and general Discussion ???? I thought so

[Cryptonic]

holy shit I would have loved to read the end game chat

I submitted it for MVP a long ass time ago, so it's still around

[Water]

People need to seriously stop trolling, I helped DH, as witch, Game almost over, SK + 2 trad + me witch left, i tell triad DH I will make SK kill himself and not witch him, to not kill me, What does he do ? Kills me while I give him the win... I'm so sick of people trolling like kids, this should be against the rules because only way I can win is to help Triad / Mafia, and if they kill me on purpose thats bs

I kill witches and friendly neutrals all the time. Several reasons:
1. what if they're lying and the one he's accusing is actually the friend and he the enemy?
2. what if the neutral in fact betrays you? Example, use DH to kill self, while SK kills DH's buddy.
3. It feels unusually satisfying seeing neutral evils die.

[Cryptonic]

I kill witches and friendly neutrals all the time. Several reasons:
1. what if they're lying and the one he's accusing is actually the friend and he the enemy?
2. what if the neutral in fact betrays you? Example, use DH to kill self, while SK kills DH's buddy.
3. It feels unusually satisfying seeing neutral evils die.

Lol @ 1
You're worried that you might be getting tricked into killing a Witch, so you decide to kill the Witch.

[Water]

Lol @ 1
You're worried that you might be getting tricked into killing a Witch, so you decide to kill the Witch.

I actually do that all the time. Claim evil neutral so they don't attack you. In fact I remember a game where I was SK with 1 witch and two triads. I claimed witch and they lynched the actual witch.

[Cryptonic]

I actually do that all the time. Claim evil neutral so they don't attack you. In fact I remember a game where I was SK with 1 witch and two triads. I claimed witch and they lynched the actual witch.

I'm not saying it's not done, but I'm just laughing that you psyche yourself out and cause yourself to do exactly what you were trying not to do.

[SparkNuts]

Man people are assholes I always try to get as many people to win as possible cuz i'm so nice. Triad/mafia almost always 99.566% of the time kill witches on purpose. If anything you should help the sk kill them and win with him.

[Cryptonic]

Man people are assholes I always try to get as many people to win as possible cuz i'm so nice. Triad/mafia almost always 99.566% of the time kill witches on purpose. If anything you should help the sk kill them and win with him.

I was in a game where the Auditor and DH found eachother n1 and started PMing. We didn't kill him the whole game and he always voted with us and even helped get attention off Triad members.

It got down to 3 Triad v Auditor v Detective. Last day DH goes to kill Auditor, even after me and other Triad are freaking out at him the entire night saying he's a dbag and only prolonging the game lol.

[Firebringer]

I was in a game where the Auditor and DH found eachother n1 and started PMing. We didn't kill him the whole game and he always voted with us and even helped get attention off Triad members.

It got down to 3 Triad v Auditor v Detective. Last day DH goes to kill Auditor, even after me and other Triad are freaking out at him the entire night saying he's a dbag and only prolonging the game lol.

I was in this game with you. I was the other triad who wasn't the DH douche.

[Cryptonic]

I was in this game with you. I was the other triad who wasn't the DH douche.

hahaha I was thinking to myself "hopefully not the DH", and then you edited it in. :P

[Bunny]

The more assholey the better imo.

[SparkNuts]

I've seen that a couple times, so rude I almost wish there was some kind of bonus points for winning with more people but I doubt that would really affect behavior.

[DarknessB]

If anything, shouldn't the bonus be the other way around? It's more difficult to win alone than with more people so the game might want to reward risk-takers who succeed.

Agreed that a Witch double-cross sucks for the Mafia, but that's the way Neutrals are supposed to work - you can side with other evils or try to win alone. Personally, I tend to cooperate because the more backstabbing that takes place, the more the Mafia and Neutral Killers will distrust Witches in the future. Also, the shoe will eventually be on the other foot, and you don't want to be the Mafia who loses because of a Witch.

I've seen that a couple times, so rude I almost wish there was some kind of bonus points for winning with more people but I doubt that would really affect behavior.

[SparkNuts]

I meant bonus for winning with more people alive. It is harder for triad/mafia to win with all three people alive(or all three alive plus a neutral evil ally) then with only 1 alive. It is harder for town to win with 9 people still alive then 3 or 4.

[Water]

I've seen that a couple times, so rude I almost wish there was some kind of bonus points for winning with more people but I doubt that would really affect behavior.

I think they should reward bonus points for winning with less people. It makes the game exciting... the backstabbing, the uncertainty, the dubious alliances. This game thrives on upset, vengeful players. It's a game of troll. I don't know why we would want to promote predictability and happiness.

[Mentar]

I think they should reward bonus points for winning with less people. It makes the game exciting...

i don't think so, it'll just promote people killing the neut evil at the end of the game all the time, making neut evil a lot harder to win as. Just leave the reward the same for either case and let the player decide what they want to do.

There's nothing more frustrating than helping a fairly bad sk through the game as judge, essentially being the only reason he made it to the end, then having him stab you in the back when its down to 1 town left.

[Yukitaka Oni]

I still can't believe I trusted them :P

Then get rekt >)o.o)>

[lingsarecute]

How to win as witch:
Step 1: Find town protectives.
Step 2: Make them target you every night.
Step 3: Help town lynch the evils.
Step 4: Lynch remaining townies or use vigilantes to kill them.
Step 5: GG

You can also team up with mafia - but u can never truely trust them.

[yzb25]

One game as Witch for me came down to Witch, BG, GF.

I could've Witched the GF onto the BG and won with Mafia, but I instead decided to let the GF decide his own fate and witched the BG onto myself. Witch Win lol

Sweet, sweet justice.

Still doesn't beat the ultimate backstab fantasy, however, from an ancient time before scumbags:

Forcing an auditor to audit you, dispatching the auditor, then winning the tie over mafia for town.

A fantasy that shall never be fulfilled T_T