S-FM 220: Empire

[secondpassing]

@secondpassing , straight up, are you the Emperor who just has balls because he knows he can't be lynched?

Be honest.

HAHAHAHA! Who would claim that?
By the way, there are so many flaws with yours and Calix's petition to the neutral.

[ika]

VOTE COUNT

• Calix (1 [L-6]):
  Sino
  

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  Sino (4 [L-3]):
  SuperJack, MattZed, SilverWolf, secondpassing
  

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  SilverWolf (1 [L-6]):
  ika
  

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  secondpassing (2 [L-5]):
  deathworlds, Unknown1234

are you gonna use this for once or jsut post it for posting sake?

[SuperJack]

I was gonna say that no one would be annoying enough to hammer. But both Mesk and Ika would do such a thing.

Yet I'm not going to remove my vote on Sino unless I find someone more worthy for it, after I've looked again and have read the setup again.

[deathworlds]

are you gonna use this for once or jsut post it for posting sake?

I enjoy these, shhhh

[Unknown1234]

Well, it's Day 1 near freaking Christmas. Give a bit slack.
Shouldn't really be an excuse though, but at least make laziness a bit more open.



Me too and it's growing even bigger since this post, like holy shit.

RLVG, did u just use a holiday that is 10 days away as another excuse while saying you shouldn't be making excuses?

[MattZed]

Where have i shown said ignorance, please quote that.

I am actually looking back and realizing I misread you; thought you suggested the guard, not the Assasin, could kill the Emperor. I'll unvote while I reconsider what I thought was a record of misunderstanding.

-unvote

[Sino]

Calix, please tell me how both my posts don't add up, your way of thinking is handing the assassin his win by sacrificing the Pleb leader, mine just involves the guard killing the assassin.

[Calix]

HAHAHAHA! Who would claim that?
By the way, there are so many flaws with yours and Calix's petition to the neutral.

"Your plans suck!" he says, giving no alternatives.

are you gonna use this for once or jsut post it for posting sake?

I just posted it because the votes went from 0 to 60 so fucking quickly that I just wanted to note it and have the vote links for future reference.

However I suck at VCA so I probably won't end up using it

[secondpassing]

are you gonna use this for once or jsut post it for posting sake?

I don't actually care if she uses them or not. They are extremely helpful (in general), but less so when I am at a computer and can compile these for myself.
Missed days of vote counts means missed use of VCA.

[MattZed]

HAHAHAHA! Who would claim that?
By the way, there are so many flaws with yours and Calix's petition to the neutral.

Holy shit that wasn't a denial of being scum.

[Sino]

Calix, please tell me how both my posts don't add up, your way of thinking is handing the assassin his win by sacrificing the Pleb leader, mine just involves the guard killing the assassin.

@Calix

You're not gonna avoid this.

[Calix]

Calix, please tell me how both my posts don't add up, your way of thinking is handing the assassin his win by sacrificing the Pleb leader, mine just involves the guard killing the assassin.

There may be a slight possibility that I misread your posts and assumed you were talking about the same role for both of them, lol. If that's the case then the bulk of my case against you is void and I wouldn't vote you again even if you didn't have as many votes as you did.

[RLVG]

RLVG, did u just use a holiday that is 10 days away as another excuse while saying you shouldn't be making excuses?

I wasn't making an excuse for myself, but saying that laziness should be more open for players on 1st day of the game - since they're busy with christmas shit before christmas.

[SilverWolf]

Oh look! A train.

-vote Sino

I will sacrifice this person.

Gross. Join the scumpile. Have you done anything in this game yet?

[Sino]

There may be a slight possibility that I misread your posts and assumed you were talking about the same role for both of them, lol. If that's the case then the bulk of my case against you is void and I wouldn't vote you again even if you didn't have as many votes as you did.

Alright, what do you make of SJ's vote on me ? secondpassing's one has already been adressed.

[secondpassing]

I'm going to stop posting until I catch up.

And Calix, I don't have a counter plan, I'm just pointing out the flaw right now. Since we don't have to focus on that plan yet, we could be discussing something else. What that something else is, I do not know yet.
Probably finding a lynch target or something.

And MattZed, your expectations are weird.

[Sino]

Alright, what do you make of SJ's vote on me ? secondpassing's one has already been adressed.

-unvote

[Unknown1234]

You log off while the votes stack on you. Convenient.

[MattZed]

Can we please talk about the fact that secondpassing didn't deny being scum when asked? (and moreover laughed at the idea of being the unlynchable scum being bold in day chat)

[ika]

I was gonna say that no one would be annoying enough to hammer. But both Mesk and Ika would do such a thing.

Yet I'm not going to remove my vote on Sino unless I find someone more worthy for it, after I've looked again and have read the setup again.

I only do it when im pissed mostly now. also if i did it in here silverwolf would be mad cus she might be posting and if i cut her off she would give me hell post game for it.

(ftr im downstairs and shes upstaris :P)

"Your plans suck!" he says, giving no alternatives.



I just posted it because the votes went from 0 to 60 so fucking quickly that I just wanted to note it and have the vote links for future reference.

However I suck at VCA so I probably won't end up using it

VCA is shit anyways, all scums need to do is vote bloc and it goes to trash

I don't actually care if she uses them or not. They are extremely helpful (in general), but less so when I am at a computer and can compile these for myself.
Missed days of vote counts means missed use of VCA.

name anyone who used VCA cus ive never seen anyone do it

[Calix]

Alright, what do you make of SJ's vote on me ? secondpassing's one has already been adressed.

It's NAI. I can see how someone would think "Sino's upset that Neut can town-side -> Sino might be scum who wants town to dislike the Neut" but it's not an amazing point that scum would have a hard time fabricating either.

[MattZed]

I'm going to stop posting until I catch up.

And Calix, I don't have a counter plan, I'm just pointing out the flaw right now. Since we don't have to focus on that plan yet, we could be discussing something else. What that something else is, I do not know yet.
Probably finding a lynch target or something.

And MattZed, your expectations are weird.

You have claimed a flaw exists. You haven't said what it is, yet.

I'm waiting.

[SilverWolf]

HAHAHAHA! Who would claim that?
By the way, there are so many flaws with yours and Calix's petition to the neutral.

Explain them. I'd like to see something useful from you. That seems a bit of an overexaggeration to a question about being scum. Nervous or something?

[Sino]

You seem pretty upset that there is even a chance the SK could side with town.

-vote Sino

For the record, what kind of case is this ?

[RLVG]

Can we please talk about the fact that secondpassing didn't deny being scum when asked? (and moreover laughed at the idea of being the unlynchable scum being bold in day chat)

Do you expect everyone to say they're not scum?

It's like the urban legend "ARE YOU AN UNDERCOVER COP?!" and expect a forced yes.

[ika]

Can we please talk about the fact that secondpassing didn't deny being scum when asked? (and moreover laughed at the idea of being the unlynchable scum being bold in day chat)

i was just gonna ignore him for the rest of the game and anyone who responds to him i was gonna point it out.

i was gonna keep quiet for associative but now you went and runined that

[MattZed]

VCA is shit anyways, all scums need to do is vote bloc and it goes to trash

Don't you play on MS, the home of reading too much into VCA?

[Calix]

Can we please talk about the fact that secondpassing didn't deny being scum when asked? (and moreover laughed at the idea of being the unlynchable scum being bold in day chat)

Does it matter? If he can't be lynched then hey, free scum kill on Night 1 and we don't sacrifice a single townie in the process.

If he can be lynched and he's scum then it's still a win.

If he's not scum then he'd better start bleeding town out of his anus given how fucking woeful he's being right now.

[SuperJack]

Lol The Scum team consists of a:

Do any town role.
Blackmailer
AND A Day Vigi.

[Unknown1234]

This is probably the weirdest game I've seen because people are so in sync.

[ika]

Don't you play on MS, the home of reading too much into VCA?

we dont talk about ms.....

they are a shit fucking site

[SuperJack]

Alright, what do you make of SJ's vote on me ? secondpassing's one has already been adressed.

Why don't you make of my vote yourself first instead of directing it to others.

[Sino]

Also @Silwerwolf, can you please point out how i was "overly defensive" please ?

[secondpassing]

Explain them. I'd like to see something useful from you. That seems a bit of an overexaggeration to a question about being scum. Nervous or something?

Is that what you perceived? I've been here like 30 minutes and I'm not done reading. I saw an opportunity to make something happen so I did.
Just because you cannot see the use of what I have done so far, doesn't mean it wasn't useful.

I'm listening to rock music right now. It's pretty hard to make me nervous when I'm listening to them.
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Feel free to discuss me whilst I read the ever growing number of pages. I'll probably catch up by night fall.

[RLVG]

This is probably the weirdest game I've seen because people are so in sync.

Unlike a recent short game!

[MattZed]

Do you expect everyone to say they're not scum?

It's like the urban legend "ARE YOU AN UNDERCOVER COP?!" and expect a forced yes.

It's still a tell, even if I wouldn't build an entire case on it.

Let's just get to the point:

-vote secondpassing

I have trouble seeing why town would adopt such a playful tone in responding to an accusation of being scum, even allowing the innuendo that I might be right. Leaving open the possibility that oneself is scum is plain anti-town for town, and I'd like to assume SP wouldn't open up his play with anti-town jokes.

[Unknown1234]

-vote RLVG

Secondpassing has left, so I am going to shift over to RLVG by suggesting a possible no-lync and using the neutral to kill, as well as constant excuses and the fact he seems to be way too disengaged.

[Calix]

This is probably the weirdest game I've seen because people are so in sync.

I see that you've been noting down townie attributes of players. Can you collate that into a single post since you seem to be more focused on town-hunting rather than scum-hunting and I'd like to see your results there?

I'm a bit iffy on you. I agree with the points that you make on town-leans, which makes me want to town-lean you, but I'm also aware that you do that a lot as scum since you're informed.

[Sino]

Why don't you make of my vote yourself first instead of directing it to others.

The only thing i have to say is "lol he seems upset the neutral might side with town" is just weak.

[MattZed]

This is probably the weirdest game I've seen because people are so in sync.

That is a solid sign that someone is being pocketed, tbf.

[Unknown1234]

Sino you keep attacking arguments against you that are extremely blatant. Although, I give you points because you directly attacked me in the FM as well.

[SuperJack]

Can we please talk about the fact that secondpassing didn't deny being scum when asked? (and moreover laughed at the idea of being the unlynchable scum being bold in day chat)

Is this how you scum hunt? Ask people. And if they don't deny it, they're scum?
Rarther a lazy way to scum hunt isn't it>?

[SilverWolf]

Is that what you perceived? I've been here like 30 minutes and I'm not done reading. I saw an opportunity to make something happen so I did.
Just because you cannot see the use of what I have done so far, doesn't mean it wasn't useful.

I'm listening to rock music right now. It's pretty hard to make me nervous when I'm listening to them.
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Feel free to discuss me whilst I read the ever growing number of pages. I'll probably catch up by night fall.

The games not that long. Instead of complaining about the length of the game, how about you tell me the flaws in the plan brought up and why you felt the need to point out how wrong it was. I need to see something from you because I don't really like your posts so far.

[Sino]

That is a solid sign that someone is being pocketed, tbf.

What do you mean here ?

[Calix]

That is a solid sign that someone is being pocketed, tbf.

Making insinuations without elaborating on them is poor play, dearie. Please elaborate ;)

[MattZed]

Is this how you scum hunt? Ask people. And if they don't deny it, they're scum?
Rarther a lazy way to scum hunt isn't it>?

It's one tool among many. Scumhunting is about evaluating responses and a person's play in general. Right now, SP's play sure doesn't smell like town.

[RLVG]

I'm listening to rock music right now.

While a pointless detail, I'm intrigued of what you're listening in.

Secondpassing has left, so I am going to shift over to RLVG by suggesting a possible no-lync and using the neutral to kill, as well as constant excuses and the fact he seems to be way too disengaged.

What excuses? I'm saying that players can be lazy for the first day because of the christmas shopping, cleaning, all that bullshit, in preperation of christmas.

And well, about the no-lynch, I didn't read the part that Town had to kill the neutral. All I read on the win conditions was that the neutral had to kill the emperor and the town leader, so I figured that if they left the town alone - an united win could be achieved.

[secondpassing]

The games not that long. Instead of complaining about the length of the game, how about you tell me the flaws in the plan brought up and why you felt the need to point out how wrong it was. I need to see something from you because I don't really like your posts so far.

I'm not complaining about the length of the game. I enjoy reading long games. I do not enjoy people saying that I haven't done anything useful and calling me useless when they didn't consider the position I am in. You can at least give me another hour to catch up or something.

[SuperJack]

It's one tool among many. Scumhunting is about evaluating responses and a person's play in general. Right now, SP's play sure doesn't smell like town.

Are you sCum MZ?

[MattZed]

Making insinuations without elaborating on them is poor play, dearie. Please elaborate ;)

lol I don't actually have an idea of who might be pocketing whom because I haven't been following associations too closely yet, but my instinct is definitely that there's too much agreement.