FM XXI: Day 6

[Old FM USA]

You all should seriously consider my Town Council plan, otherwise this sort of chaos will happen again again and again.

tomorrow.

[Old FM Germany]

It took 12 hours to build a train in this town.
Suppose You me and USA vote sweden, the train is still not moving.
Do you think India, Thainland or Switzerland will show up like Boss?


NopeNopeNopeNopeNopeNopeNopeNopeNopeNopeNopeNope

If you, japan, kenya, usa and iran joins the train then we will have 6 players on it.

[Old FM USA]

anyone not on the kenya lynch should try and switch to sweden. i'll be here up to the lynch to switch if my vote is needed.

[Old FM Brazil]

If you, japan, kenya, usa and iran joins the train then we will have 6 players on it.

Lmao, Kenya join YOUR train? are you born under some sort or miracle star? Don't make me laugh to death. I still have doctor duty to perform.
Iran isn't a type of guy as Gullible as I am. I'd say it is hopeless. Unless the major 6 consider otherwise.

In fact, the positive part is that Arabia, originally wants to lynch one between Sweden or Costa Rica, might support the train.
Other positive evidence, I have none.

[Old FM Brazil]

-vote FM Sweden

the train is Not going to happen, I tell ya!

[Old FM Germany]

Lmao, Kenya join YOUR train? are you born under some sort or miracle star? Don't make me laugh to death. I still have doctor duty to perform.
Iran isn't a type of guy as Gullible as I am. I'd say it is hopeless. Unless the major 6 consider otherwise.

In fact, the positive part is that Arabia, originally wants to lynch one between Sweden or Costa Rica, might support the train.
Other positive evidence, I have none.

I have revealed that i am not the bulletproof. Kenya should stop his tunneling on me now.

[Old FM USA]

PEOPLE SHOULD ONLY BE VOTING SWEDEN IF THEY CAN COME BACK IN TIME TO SWITCH TO KENYA

[Old FM Germany]

PEOPLE SHOULD ONLY BE VOTING SWEDEN IF THEY CAN COME BACK IN TIME TO SWITCH TO KENYA

yeah, i was just about to say that.

[Old FM Brazil]

I have revealed that i am not the bulletproof. Kenya should stop his tunneling on me now.

People are not Romney, people don't make a U turn as fast. I like the way you think. But reversing ideology + efforts is literally harder than Divorce.



TO THE PEOPLE WHO COME LATE:
For convenience :

Kenya: CounterClaim Germany Bulletproof
USA: I'm detective, promise Germany isn't doing anything suspicious last night.
Germany: I'm retract BulletProof. Kenya is fine.

Proposition: Lets get back to Sweden.

[Old FM USA]

you're starting to not make sense. especially with the politics.

[Old FM Germany]

i still think it's extremely suspicious that kenya waited so long befeore counterclaiming me. I will switch back to him if the sweden train fails.

[Old FM Mexico]

I don't like Sweeden, so.

-vote FM Sweeden

[Old FM USA]

I don't like Sweeden, so.

-vote FM Sweeden

are you able to switch youre vote back to kenya, in case we don't get enough votes?

[Old FM Kenya]

btw just because Germany retracted his bulletproof claim and didn't visit a dead guy last night doesn't mean he's town. He could still be mafia that just sent someone else for the kill last night. Either way I was right about him not really being bulletproof.

Whatever. Looks like Sweden lynch is the wave of the future, and I never liked Sweden anyway. Let's do this.

-vote FM Sweden

[Old FM Brazil]

you're starting to not make sense. especially with the politics.

well... off topic, but

Kenya used a few days chasing Germany, frustrated and angry.
You think he will just buy Germany's claim as it is?
I know most people would not, would you?

Mitt Rommey is a business man so he changes strategy and claims when he sees fit but people are looking for people of more consistent attitude. I respect him, but not for president. This is how the world work, as well as mafia.

That is politic.

Politic is not about problem solving but a direction people would move and how to achieve best outcome under the incentive restriction. People believe in what they want to believe on the world there is no absolutely right or wrong. However, if things do not work out, the things are wrong.

Town wants to win without claims, literally a belief so beautiful yet so not as practical. Someone, somehow, needs to claim, counter claim, report feedback. MVP always goes to wifom masters but really that is the biggest lie in mafia world.

[Old FM Brazil]

Bravo Kenya. Bravo.

[Old FM Brazil]

USA votes Pl0X.

[Old FM Germany]

I don't like Sweeden, so.

-vote FM Sweeden

That vote didn't count. Please redo it.

[Old FM Kenya]

i still think it's extremely suspicious that kenya waited so long befeore counterclaiming me. I will switch back to him if the sweden train fails.

I thought/hoped I could convince the town not to lynch me without claiming. tbh my claim shouldn't have been necessary, I provided a very logical defense that none of you could refute. Everyone just used confirmation bias to pick out all of my mistakes (ie. defending Greenland and Poland) without making note of any of my successes (being right about SoKo and Egypt). So it's not my fault you guys don't respond to logic. It's one of the things I hate about the meta of this site. It's all so dependent on role claims. Plus, I knew the "but ragnar" argument would surface the moment I claimed. So I was hesitant because there seemed to be no point.

When it became evident that town would not see reason, I decided to lay my cards on the table. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. I think in future FMs I'll just refuse to claim entirely, regardless of my alignment/role.

[Old FM Japan]

not sure if i can switch my vote later on, but I support you for the moment.

-vote FM Sweden

Btw did someoen realsied that greenland appeared to watch this thread with invisible mode off? That could be a hint for his still alive maf players, that they spoke over in night chat, host pls do something about that (I guess it isnt allowed).

[Old FM Brazil]

Suppose USA is town
Suppose Kenya and Germany are both town
Suppose Iran is clueless
Suppose Mafia pushed for a Kenya lynch, at least 2 people
Suppose all inactive fags are citizens

Then Mafia candidate:
Argentina (Group 2)
Sweden (Group 2)
Costa Rica (Group 2)
Spain (Group 3)

If we lynch Sweden today, then what's left are Argentina, Costarica (hopefully not vented by then), and Spain.
I suggest if Sweden flip non-town, we lynch Spain next, if he is not on the Sweden wagon.

[Old FM Brazil]

I noticed Greenland since 48 hours ago. Don't care.

[Old FM Japan]

I noticed Greenland since 48 hours ago. Don't care.

Well he was a code fanatic look at his lw, wouldnt surprise me if he woudl actually do something like this lol.

[Old FM Germany]

I dont think the host would allow him to make that kind of code.

[Old FM Germany]

MEXICO MEXICO MEXICO MEXICO MEXCIO. WE NEED YOUR TACO EXPERTISE!

[Old FM Brazil]

It is weird no one wants to solve my code. It is literally easy.

[Old FM Kenya]

My code for today:

TPDVTNLHWTZTSRVQMSLTVX

[Old FM Ireland]

-vote FM Sweden

I'll join the Sweden train. I will be here before the end.

[Old FM Brazil]

-vote FM Sweden

I'll join the Sweden train. I will be here before the end.

YES. YEs. Major victory of the train so far.

[Old FM Germany]

INDIA WE NEED YOU!

[Old FM Sweden]

OH NO! WHATEVER WILL I DO NOW!!!! COSTA RICA PLEASE! I NEED YOU!!

[Old FM Sweden]

And back to our regularly schedule broadcasting!

-vote FM Kenya

[Old FM Germany]

OH NO! WHATEVER WILL I DO NOW!!!! COSTA RICA PLEASE! I NEED YOU!!

Please put a vote on yourself. You are going to do the town a favour

[Old FM Iran]

Can someone enlighten me and tell what is the case against Sweden?

[Old FM Germany]

Can someone enlighten me and tell what is the case against Sweden?

The case against sweden is that he is not possesed and costa rica claimed sheriff and found him guilty. I think costa rica is possesed.

[Old FM USA]

vent.

japan, if you won't be here in time for day end, go back to kenya.

[Old FM USA]

plus, a guilty read from costa rica.

[Old FM USA]

we could potentially pull this off, if india and cyprus come around.

[Old FM Sweden]

Their jealous because I'm beautiful. But really doe. Jelly.

[Old FM Iran]

The case against sweden is that he is not possesed and costa rica claimed sheriff and found him guilty. I think costa rica is possesed.

I don't believe Costa Rica is Sheriff. He never pushed Poland, even after Egypt died. His targets make no sense. I don't believe we have two Sheriffs and Masons. So many things that are wrong with this.

So you all basically base this lynch on the fact that Sweden fakes being possessed (we had no mention of ventriloquist for the whole game, so unless Mafia is killing them very next night I find it unlikely) - that is hardly alignment-indicative. Scum had no reason to attract attention this way, because being possessed by Ghost doesn't make you a Town.

Compared to Kenya lynch on Sweden is almost random.

[Old FM USA]

they've been posting at the same time today.

[Old FM Germany]

I don't believe Costa Rica is Sheriff. He never pushed Poland, even after Egypt died. His targets make no sense. I don't believe we have two Sheriffs and Masons. So many things that are wrong with this.

So you all basically base this lynch on the fact that Sweden fakes being possessed (we had no mention of ventriloquist for the whole game, so unless Mafia is killing them very next night I find it unlikely) - that is hardly alignment-indicative. Scum had no reason to attract attention this way, because being possessed by Ghost doesn't make you a Town.

Compared to Kenya lynch on Sweden is almost random.

Iran, please. Just put your vote on sweden. Do you really think sweden is possesed?

[Old FM Iran]

they've been posting at the same time today.

Ghost can't post twice.

So you believe we have Ventriloquist.

And yet you don't believe one of them is ghosted and the other one vented?


I like the fact that they post at the same time - sure, it looks fishy. But I don't know why Ventriloquist would try to attract attention that way.

[Old FM USA]

Ghost can't post twice.

So you believe we have Ventriloquist.

And yet you don't believe one of them is ghosted and the other one vented?


I like the fact that they post at the same time - sure, it looks fishy. But I don't know why Ventriloquist would try to attract attention that way.

it's end game and he's trying to cause a mislynch. i believe mafia has been killing the vent targets. IF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE FOLLOWED THE CODE, WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS PROBLEM.

[Old FM USA]

okay sweden lynch has to be put off till tomorrow, votes back on kenya

[Old FM Spain]

No one has claimed vented the entire game. I seriously doubt there is one.

Out of Sweden and Costa Rica, Sweden is most likely lying about being ghosted. It doesn't make sense for the ghost to possess Sweden.

We need a lynch today, and the Kenya lynch isn't going anywhere. Sweden's been mildly scummy all game, and there's no reason for town to fake ghosted. She probably wanted to avoid the spotlight for a day.

-vote FM Sweden

[Old FM USA]

okay sweden lynch has to be put off till tomorrow, votes back on kenya

-vote FM Sweden

[Old FM Spain]

We only have an hour left in the day. We need to make up our minds. I'm find with Kenya or Sweden, since both are good choices.

[Old FM Germany]

Okay, everyone put your vote on sweden now!

[Old FM USA]

sweden is today, scratch what i just said. i will not be posting anymore today. if i'm vented/ghosted, i will not have solved my code on my first post.