S-FM 220: Empire

[Sino]

It's weird cuz we've talked a substantial amount in the past and she's very familiar with my retard mode...

That's why i'm trusting her reads

[yzb25]

Really bad reasonings for given town-reads, and other strange things. I'm lazy atm so...

Feel free to take a look on Calix' reads and posts.

I'm pretty sure Calix had crappy points on SP. She's terrible at reading him. On the other hand, this attitude from you is fucking top notch shit if you're scum.

Ehh, other than Ika, it's either you or SP for last scumslot as far as I'm concerned.

And my SP gutread is still just a gutread.

So I'm like 20 misclicks away from joining this train lol.

[Gyrlander]

Opening post has been updated with Day 2 shortcut.

@RLVG

[yzb25]

That's why i'm trusting her reads

Yeah, clearly she doesn't know me as well as I thought. I felt like she could tell what was going on but was just pushing me to try and motivate me.

w/e. Hopefully my presence now can help to show I wasn't deliberately lurking like some puppetmaster.

[yzb25]

Neutral, you should claim. You have literally no reason not to. It's in your interests. Claim bitch.

[Sino]

Yeah, clearly she doesn't know me as well as I thought. I felt like she could tell what was going on but was just pushing me to try and motivate me.

w/e. Hopefully my presence now can help to show I wasn't deliberately lurking like some puppetmaster.

We'll see with sp's flip and whether ika claim to be the assassin or not.

[Sino]

Neutral, you should claim. You have literally no reason not to. It's in your interests. Claim bitch.

We still have time, you know 23 hours.

[secondpassing]

We'll see with sp's flip and whether ika claim to be the assassin or not.

You kill me and town loses.

[secondpassing]

Really bad reasonings for given town-reads, and other strange things. I'm lazy atm so...

Feel free to take a look on Calix' reads and posts.

Also, that's a misrep of Calix's posts. I'm the last on that list.

[secondpassing]

-unvote

imagine my vote is on ika

[ika]

so i jsut got home and seeing how guard is dead

i am the neutral

i have to use bathroom first so ill be back in a bit (number 2 is not agreeing with me right now)

i should have my phone so i can skimp up

[Sino]

You kill me and town loses.

How ? as long as scum doesn't have the nk, i'd say town is in a pretty good spot.

[yzb25]

We still have time, you know 23 hours.

Juuust making sure.

Speaking of time, it's time for me to sleep. My schedule is actually free tomorrow, and I should be on for the last 6/7 hours of EOD without any 30-page fortresses to infiltrate this time.

In short, dw I'll definitely be around to place my vote. Nighty night

[Sino]

so i jsut got home and seeing how guard is dead

i am the neutral

i have to use bathroom first so ill be back in a bit (number 2 is not agreeing with me right now)

i should have my phone so i can skimp up

Alright, we just make sure ika survives, who are you killing now ika ?

[SilverWolf]

I think it is secondpassing/yzb scumteam. ika-please kill yzb tonight. I'm going with the town block on this as well. We can't lose.

-vote secondpassing

[ika]

Alright, we just make sure ika survives, who are you killing now ika ?

yzb or secondpassing if we dont lynch him today

-vote secondpassing

but he is lynched so yzb is dead tonight

[The Godfather]

secondpassing has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


ika (1 [L-3]): yzb25
secondpassing (4 [L-0]): Sino, RLVG, SilverWolf, ika

[Gyrlander]

Night Two

Secondpassing was lynched! He was a Citizen!

Spoiler : Calix LW :

Being blackmailed for the entire game?

Fuck that, I'd rather die. Given brilliant comments such as "I thought Calix was the Neutral" and "an obviously BMed Calix is scum" it would be wonderful if you'd stop insulting me and read what I have to say here.

I put a fair amount of effort into writing this since I had to attend to important RL stuff today, so please actually read this.

1. You guys lynched SJ. Good job...hopefully!

If he's mafia, MZ is confirmed non-mafia. His case is insanely good (MZ can still go fuck himself though )

2. To whoever the Neutral is, please kill ika and remove yourself from the game.

#1798 is actually a good contribution from SP! (especially points 1, 3, 6 and 7)

This is coming from me here, the person who thinks SP is a shit-tier player. (reasoning in spoiler, read it for the love of God)

Spoiler : IMPORTANT POINTS :

I'm assuming that SJ isn't the Emperor here to be on the safe side (but this is possible since scum!SJ is being bussed). I'm also assuming that yzb is the obvious Guard because MattZed hasn't died yet.

If you can believe me here, then you should conclude that ika is the most likely candidate for the Emperor NOT SECONDPASSING.

- He's the most 'active' scum but what is he doing with this activity? NOTHING. 200 posts and there's hardly a fucking thing in them - I would have figured he had 50 posts. Actually analyse what he's trying to do and you'll find nothing. He posts for the sake of posting.

- He has NO initiative. Name a single original point he's made. Oh wait, you can't because all he does is pick on the safe targets, brings up the Neutral all the fucking time (scum want to find and kill the Neutral by judging how players respond to his neut-posts) and lashes out at people who scum-read him.

- His posts on SJ gave me bussing vibes.

What do I mean with the last point? He's too 'clean' with his reads. He just focuses on SJ/ yzb/ SP and throws shade on MZ. He doesn't give a fuck about anyone else.

Compare this with SP with that obviously-incriminating town-read on SJ.

Think about which one is more likely to come from scum. Hint: IT'S IKA.

"Wow wtf Calix, SP is obviously like, defending his scum buddy and shit and ika is a good little townie with his perfect reads because townies never ever make mistakes with their reads."

Scum love to buss and distance themselves from their buddies when they're under pressure because scum KNOW their allies are guilty and have a hard time defending them as a result!

Please just think about why the scum!SP, who already looks like total shit, would...make himself look even more like total shit by HAVING AN UNEXPLAINED TOWN-READ ON HIS SCUM BUDDY.

What am I trying to say here? SP's posts don't look like he gives a shit about getting town cred from the lynch. ika's do. That's what matters.

SP just made a mistake with his reads. He's not trying to make excuses. He's 'open' about his god-awful behaviour. Meanwhile ika is trying to hide his scummy behaviour with his reams of forgettable posts. He's blending into the chat.

Conclusion: He is clearly being set up as the scum's end-game potential. SP is being set up as a mislynch potential.

TL;DR: Do not fall into the trap of picking on the openly scummy player (SP) over the person in the background! (ika)

We cannot afford for you, the Neutral, to risk being Blackmailed and mod-killed on D3. BOTH OF US LOSE IF THIS HAPPENS.

3. Lynch yzb25

4. Do NOT lynch outside of this or do anything other than sheep Calix. That includes you, RLVG.

5. I have even linked to my town-reads because I'm just that nice and I know nobody read it the first time.

Sino: Confirmed town. Not even a question.

SilverWolf: This one is also extremely obvious, not even going to bother here. She'll likely be dead tomorrow if the scum get their Blackmail across (which is why IKA should die tonight because kills go before blackmails!).

Mesk514: Also town, just useless. This is NOT an excuse to mislynch her, however. Town does not have the wiggle room to fuck around with policy lynches. She has a very townie tone and scum do not claim like Mesk (not using the truth tell before anyone tries to throw shade here).

Mesk never claimed first thing when scum in any of her scum games. Anyone claiming this is full of shit. Hell, I was scum with Mesk in BFN and Mesk isn't playing like that at all.

It's insanely annoying for morons to scum-read someone who isn't acting in a scum-motivated manner AT ALL. Just stop.

RLVG: Town. He's exceptionally stupid though with using shitty WIFOM reasons, TRYING TO GET ME MODKILLED (wtf) and being a dummy with SP vs ika (like ANYONE ELSE IS GETTING LYNCHED TODAY).

Sadly he's town for how he responded to the town reads. Nothing else to be discussed there, end of story.

Don't listen to him, however - he's on the wrong track entirely. He thinks everyone uses five levels of WIFOM when they post and lacks any sense. Even the NEUTRAL is more townie than he is being.


secondpassing: This is largely based on my firm belief that SP is being 'openly' scummy compared to ika's 'covertly' scummy theory (which is strong enough to town-read SP by itself - his actions look bad on the surface but when you ACTUALLY look for scum motivation, it DOESN'T ADD UP INTO A COHERENT NARRATIVE. He's only scummy when you first look at him, if that makes sense).

I have other minor tells for SP, but I don't think anything I say in SP's 'defense' is going to be stronger than the fact that ika vs SP is SvT and I really think that ika is the scum.

6. If you have any questions, refer to Points 1-5

7. Merry fucking Christmas!

Living Players	Dead Players	Roles
@Sino @Mesk514 @RLVG @yzb25 @SilverWolf @ika	Deathworlds -Escort Unknown - Detective (Original Town Leader) SuperJack - Emperor's Royal Guard MattZed - Citizen Calix - Doctor Secondpassing - Citizen	Emperor Empress Random Pleb -LEADER- Random Pleb Random Pleb Corrupted Royal Assasin

Day 3 starts in 24 hours.

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[Gyrlander]

Day 3

Ika was killed last night! He was the Emperor. After achieving her win condition, SilverWolf left the Empire.

Living Players	Dead Players	Roles
@Sino @Mesk514 @RLVG @yzb25	Deathworlds -Escort Unknown - Detective (Original Town Leader) SuperJack - Emperor's Royal Guard MattZed - Citizen Calix - Doctor Secondpassing - Citizen ika - Emperor Silverwolf - Corrupted Royal Assasin	Empress Random Pleb -LEADER- Random Pleb Random Pleb

Night 3 starts in 24 hours.

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3 votes to hammer.
Started the day sooner because I'm not going to be online for the start of the day.

[Mesk514]

hue hue

so RLVGs still here, so i guess if it's not me
and calix said it's not him

bye sino

err

maybe yzb

[Sino]

Lol, wtf ?

I knew ika could have lied about the claim, but i expected yzb to be the assassin in that case.

So, yzb or RLVG now ? We only have one shot at this.

[RLVG]

Sino, jail Mesk.

-vote YZB25

[Sino]

Given how accurate Calix's reads are shown to be, (sp town and ika scum) i'm leaning towards yzb atm.

[Sino]

Sino, jail Mesk.

-vote YZB25

That wouldn't change anything if we lynch anyways.

We could just yolo quick hammer now.

[Sino]

@Mesk514 If you're willing to vote yzb now, we can end the game, i know it's not a townie thing to do, but nothing much is gonna happen today anyways.

[RLVG]

That wouldn't change anything if we lynch anyways.

We could just yolo quick hammer now.

Looking at the setup, scum can kill using the Factional Night Action.

So it's really a shot in the dark here. If YZB is scum, we win. If he isn't, we lose.

Honestly, I'm willing to just lynch YZB regardlessly.

[Mesk514]

@Mesk514 If you're willing to vote yzb now, we can end the game, i know it's not a townie thing to do, but nothing much is gonna happen today anyways.

YOUVE GIVEN ME SO MUCH CRAP ABOUT FAST LYNCHING

[Mesk514]

IMMA PULL A SINO AND NOT VOTE TIL IM %100 SURE.

YOU ALL MUST WAIT 24 HOURS

[Sino]

Looking at the setup, scum can kill using the Factional Night Action.

So it's really a shot in the dark here. If YZB is scum, we win. If he isn't, we lose.

Honestly, I'm willing to just lynch YZB regardlessly.

Tbh, you've made yourself quite scummy in my eyes recently.

Going for the sp lynch over the yzb one, now just going for a quick hammer, when we actually could have me jail someone and see what happens.

But on the other hand, i also don't want to drag this game on for too long, so i'm going with the yzb lynch today.

[Sino]

IMMA PULL A SINO AND NOT VOTE TIL IM %100 SURE.

YOU ALL MUST WAIT 24 HOURS

Alright,

-vote yzb25

[Mesk514]

i all of the sudden have this extremely important thing to do. i don't know what. but i do.

bye

[RLVG]

Going for the sp lynch over the yzb one

That depends on how you read the players. I openly read SP as someone who's somewhat "important" in any aspect, may it be PR, Leader, or even scum.
With all these TPR dead and the Leader dead, and them not actually doing anything that a TPR would do, I viewed them as a scum.

Of course, Citizen.

My reads have been plain shit this game.

[RLVG]

i all of the sudden have this extremely important thing to do. i don't know what. but i do.

bye

[RLVG]

This is bias, but this pretty much proves Mesk.

If Mesk were scum, they'd just hammer now and kill me since Sino is the claimed jailer and any gambit on me being a doctor (I'm not) is bypassed.

[Sino]

That depends on how you read the players. I openly read SP as someone who's somewhat "important" in any aspect, may it be PR, Leader, or even scum.
With all these TPR dead and the Leader dead, and them not actually doing anything that a TPR would do, I viewed them as a scum.

Of course, Citizen.

My reads have been plain shit this game.

Yeah, that's what Calix said about you, so yet another reason to just sheep her and go with yzb.

You've had some fun posts, your reaction to Unknown's death was hilarious xD

[Sino]

To sum up this game :

[RLVG]

Can we force the host to end early with ultimatum by refusing to vote anyone other than YZB, causing a stalemate, with the Jailor to execute YZB?

[Mesk514]

IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THIS MOMENT

A wild Mesk has been abandoned by her peers, all those that argued she was just a shit town are now dead (ironic eh?).
What does she do?

Will she quick hammer YZB who's clearly in the bathroom wanking it at the urinals?
Will she be a huge cunt and delay the trials?
Will she start tunnelling Sino for being a moron?
Will she start tunnelling RLVG for voting her say one?
Or perhaps she will just never show up to hammer cause the game to go into the night phase.

The Answer:
She will follow Calix for believing in her when no one else would

-vote YZB25

Mesk makes it to the end game once again
WEOOOO WEOOOO

[The Godfather]

yzb25 has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


yzb25 (3 [L-0]): RLVG, Sino, Mesk514

[Gyrlander]

The Corrupted Royal Assasin and the Plebeians have won!

Congratulations Silverwolf, Sino, Unknown1234, Deathworlds, Mesk514, MattZed, RLVG, Calix and secondpassing.

Role List:

Sino - Jailor
Unknown - Detective
Deathworlds - Escort
Mesk514 - Citizen
Superjack - Emperor's Royal Guard
MattZed - Citizen
RLVG - Citizen
yzb25 - Empress
SilverWolf - Corrupted Royal Assasin
ika - Emperor
Calix - Doctor
secondpassing - Citizen

After the Emperor's Palace reign ended everything was a chaos. Every single citizen regretted their decision to try to make the situation better. At the end, everyone died from a plague.

Or:

After almost everyone died in the progress of ending the Emperor's reign, the last 3 Citizens decided that it was time to repopulate Earth.

999 votes to hammer.

[Sino]

So the game was over by day 2, thanks Calix !

[Calix]

Gyrlander, when can we expect to see that host analysis?

[Mesk514]

Let's keep it real, Mesk is a good manipulator and can feign that vibe very well.
@Mesk514
If you're reading the game, please give some thoughts on Sino, Calix and/or Mattzed, because you're basically unreadable for me right now, and you'll probably live until LYLO.

[Sino]

Gyrlander, when can we expect to see that host analysis?

Btw, before you decide to leave the site, hosts can fight against your problem, either by making you scum or by making you some kind of bulletproof role.

[Unknown1234]

Gg everyone. SilverWolf is my MVP vote for this game.

That being said, I died because Gyrlander forgot to kill me.

[Mesk514]

@SilverWolf , is definitely the MVP of this game. Town could not have won with out her.

[Gyrlander]

Gyrlander, when can we expect to see that host analysis?

Tomorrow. If I don't die tonight ZZZZ

PS: You know that I'm not reviving this thread just to explain all my errors.

[Unknown1234]

Thoughts on the game:

-blackmailer was too strong for the scum. Calix was nearly impossible to understand without constant blackmailing of her. I'm sure the scum would have continued to blackmail her if she had lived.

-Yzb, you made a really weak post that drew attention to you, but you were fairly inactive and so it was hard for people to believe you at all.

-SuperJack, I think your downfall was when you suddenly peaked in activity and made a really forceful push on DW that really came out of nowhere.

-Silver Wolf: not much to say about your play, except that you accurately killed your targets and was Town-read by everyone.

[Unknown1234]

Sorry, I forgot to mention IKA.

IKA- I felt like the most scummy aspect of your play was that you waited for people to prompt you instead of taking the initiative to do it for yourself.

[Sino]

Thoughts on the game:

-blackmailer was too strong for the scum. Calix was nearly impossible to understand without constant blackmailing of her. I'm sure the scum would have continued to blackmail her if she had lived.

The "You can't blackmail the same target two nights in a row" rule should be something to consider here.