S-FM 241: Fableblood III - The Return of Haloden

[Unknown1234]

I don't like this post. A safe neutral lynch? You speak as it he was a kind of secured lynch. Who wants secured lynches? Not townies...

Weren’t you the one that voted him for that same logic?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Since I like lists a lot...


The Scvmurderer Train

=» L-2
=» Accusated of nothing clearly by his voters
=» Suspected of wanting to get easy lynches, and to jump on every possible train
=» Lack of explicit reasons to lynch


The Distorted Train

=» L-3
=» Detailed accusations of defensiveness and contradiction; general apathy and no intent to make the game advance, apparently
=» Suspected of being Armadyus Follower
=» Reasons to lynch good enough in the writer's opinion
=»

-vote Distorted

No glow effects added to text please.

[Unknown1234]

So your saying its wrong to vote people and everyone who did is stupid? That a long list of people you don't like.

How can you infer that at all? I never said it made people scummy, I said it’s more scummy to not pressure but I never said voting =stupid. The only thing I said was people not voting immediately doesn’t mean 100% scum and people’s voting immediately doesn’t mean 100% Town. Why are you acting like this?

[Whad]

Hm, I dont actually think Distorted is scummy. While your reasons are correct I find Whad more eager to lynch and he has come back at every1 with an scum accusation. I feel Whad is the better lynch.

-vote Whad

this reeks of OMGUS

Present a better case against me. Ask me questions. Probe my alignment. kthx

[Unknown1234]

I said that I had to get into pages of reading, remember? I didn't know he was off. But

-unvote

, I saw what I wanted to see. I know it's ridiculous to vote and unvote in the next post, but I did it. YAY!

Also, I never said I wasn’t scum reading Distorted anymore, but that I don’t like keeping my vote on big trains when I know I’m going to be away for a period/don’t trust current new people hammering.

[Scvmurderer]

How can you infer that at all? I never said it made people scummy, I said it’s more scummy to not pressure but I never said voting =stupid. The only thing I said was people not voting immediately doesn’t mean 100% scum and people’s voting immediately doesn’t mean 100% Town. Why are you acting like this?

Acting like what? Your the one who implied everyone who voted early was to my opinion town and stupid.

you suggesting that everyone who instantly voted is either stupid or Town

[Unknown1234]

Whad, I feel like you’ve been ignoring my presence but at the same time trying to claim me being Town. Why haven’t you directed anything at me yet?

[Scvmurderer]

this reeks of OMGUS

Present a better case against me. Ask me questions. Probe my alignment. kthx

Your the one who just jumped one a train with a CHOO CHOO

[Unknown1234]

Can someone explain why the SCV train is different from the same accusations that people used on Efe? It seems like an alternative neutral lynch, some which people are also opposed to.

I haven’t been able to analyze SCV much yet.

[Distorted]

Why are you being so friendly? You are offering someone a chance to take off you’re pressure vote. I don’t like how it seems like you don’t want retaliation being one of the top lunches currently.

was trying to get a response. and that post is not a lie, if he could explain to me why he was voting me for "wanting to lynch efekannn" but yet did not ask 1 question to the person who WAS voting him; it looked like to me he was trying to get the attention off of RS and on to someone else. He used the exact reasoning that I was questioning RS about to vote me up lol just made no sense.

He says it was to start a train on himself, and if it was indeed bait, then Whad got baited. Seems odd to me, maybe because its my first time on forum mafia, but just doesnt fit with me logically. You think him voting RS would be better bait? since if he wnated to start a train, he could have sided with my questioning him and started a lynch train that would have made evils feel a lot safer voting into.

[Unknown1234]

Acting like what? Your the one who implied everyone who voted early was to my opinion town and stupid.

I didn’t imply that at all, I literally just explained what I was saying.

You aren’t scum-hunting, you are just picking fights with people and it’s extremely irrational for scum and Town.

[Whad]

Whad, I feel like you’ve been ignoring my presence but at the same time trying to claim me being Town. Why haven’t you directed anything at me yet?

I'm satisfied enough with what you're doing right now so would rather let you do you while I try to interact with people whose alignments I don't have strong feelings about. I'm triaging if you will.

[Unknown1234]

Am I dumb in saying I don’t know who RS is?

[Distorted]

Am I dumb in saying I don’t know who RS is?

oops. RL sorry lol

[Distorted]

RLVG*

[Whad]

Can someone explain why the SCV train is different from the same accusations that people used on Efe? It seems like an alternative neutral lynch, some which people are also opposed to.

I haven’t been able to analyze SCV much yet.

1. Efekann went to sleep and scv is still awake. Better to pressure a guy who isn't pro-town who is also here to try to get him to generate more content.
2. Efekann seems a little more trolly/carefree to me whereas scv seems more calculated/fluff

[Unknown1234]

was trying to get a response. and that post is not a lie, if he could explain to me why he was voting me for "wanting to lynch efekannn" but yet did not ask 1 question to the person who WAS voting him; it looked like to me he was trying to get the attention off of RS and on to someone else. He used the exact reasoning that I was questioning RS about to vote me up lol just made no sense.

He says it was to start a train on himself, and if it was indeed bait, then Whad got baited. Seems odd to me, maybe because its my first time on forum mafia, but just doesnt fit with me logically. You think him voting RS would be better bait? since if he wnated to start a train, he could have sided with my questioning him and started a lynch train that would have made evils feel a lot safer voting into.

There wasn’t much pressure on RLVG, so not sure why he would be trying to divert attention off of him. I also don’t understand why he would start a train on himself, as everything he says would be really hard to give credit and would make him look scummy already. I do think that this train built up fast as soon as SCV arrived, similar to the way Efekannn’s train built up. I haven’t decided yet if it’s justified.

Voting RLVG for baiting doesn’t really have a lot of pro-side to it as RLVG seems to be afk.

[Whad]

Also, I don't see how scv claims that he was trying to bait a train on himself and that I got "caught". I feel like scv is scum and trying to reshape the narrative to suit his purposes. This seems like something a scum player has more incentive to do than a town player who is only supposed to be motivated in sussing out the truth.

[Distorted]

There wasn’t much pressure on RLVG, so not sure why he would be trying to divert attention off of him. I also don’t understand why he would start a train on himself, as everything he says would be really hard to give credit and would make him look scummy already. I do think that this train built up fast as soon as SCV arrived, similar to the way Efekannn’s train built up. I haven’t decided yet if it’s justified.

Voting RLVG for baiting doesn’t really have a lot of pro-side to it as RLVG seems to be afk.

he was not afk at the time. and I guess I feel I was putting pressure on him, asking him why he was voting efekannn so quickly ect.

[Scvmurderer]

1. Efekann went to sleep and scv is still awake. Better to pressure a guy who isn't pro-town who is also here to try to get him to generate more content.
2. Efekann seems a little more trolly/carefree to me whereas scv seems more calculated/fluff

A man can contain himself for MMs sake.

[Unknown1234]

1. Efekann went to sleep and scv is still awake. Better to pressure a guy who isn't pro-town who is also here to try to get him to generate more content.
2. Efekann seems a little more trolly/carefree to me whereas scv seems more calculated/fluff

1.) pressure is different, which isn’t what I’m referring to. Distorted offered his vote off and blinkskater left after voting and made a school Choo post. I’m not really seeing the pressure that is supposed to be building up, and more of an opportunistic jump to a potentially easy lynch.

2.) I’m fairly certain he threatened the people who were lynching him at some point that they would regret lynching him.. after the first little bit he became more defensive about his lynch.

If I misinterpret something I apologize, not in the best position atm.

[blinkskater]

well i'm going to bed soon and i'm not going to leave my vote on the table

-unvote

the only two players i feel are town at the moment are distorted and whad, i think scv and mm are suspkt see yall in the morning

[Whad]

1.) pressure is different, which isn’t what I’m referring to. Distorted offered his vote off and blinkskater left after voting and made a school Choo post. I’m not really seeing the pressure that is supposed to be building up, and more of an opportunistic jump to a potentially easy lynch.

2.) I’m fairly certain he threatened the people who were lynching him at some point that they would regret lynching him.. after the first little bit he became more defensive about his lynch.

If I misinterpret something I apologize, not in the best position atm.

1. My interpretation of the way that things evolved here was that at first there was a lot of suspicion of Distorted and his passiveness. Then over time blinkskater and I talked with him and started understanding where he's coming from and reading him more townish. Then we realized that hey there's this suspicious guy who hasn't really posted much who we'd like to hear from more and so we all started voting him. He's definitely not in risk of being lynched at the moment, but he is also not contributing very much. I LIKED very much seeing that his reaction to being voted quickly was to OMGUS me and continue not to contribute much and spin the narrative to suit his purposes (i.e. saying he laid a trap) which doesn't sound very townlike to me. In RVS trains build and fall but it's how the people hopping onto or off the trains behave, and how the people being trained react that help give you glimmers into alignments.

2. I don't know efkann's meta but I kind of read that part about people would regret lynching him as totally joking in tone. I didn't read him as particularly defensive at all.

[Whad]

1. My interpretation of the way that things evolved here was that at first there was a lot of suspicion of Distorted and his passiveness. Then over time blinkskater and I talked with him and started understanding where he's coming from and reading him more townish. Then we realized that hey there's this suspicious guy who hasn't really posted much who we'd like to hear from more and so we all started voting him. He's definitely not in risk of being lynched at the moment, but he is also not contributing very much. I LIKED very much seeing that his reaction to being voted quickly was to OMGUS me and continue not to contribute much and spin the narrative to suit his purposes (i.e. saying he laid a trap) which doesn't sound very townlike to me. In RVS trains build and fall but it's how the people hopping onto or off the trains behave, and how the people being trained react that help give you glimmers into alignments.

2. I don't know efkann's meta but I kind of read that part about people would regret lynching him as totally joking in tone. I didn't read him as particularly defensive at all.

In case it's not clear the "him" I'm referring to a lot in paragraph 1 is scvmurderer

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Weren’t you the one that voted him for that same logic?

Huh??? No, please quote.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

No glow effects added to text please.

Aww... ok sorry, didn't know

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Your the one who just jumped one a train with a CHOO CHOO

He's a little bit right... But Whad is too. Both give us a case!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Am I dumb in saying I don’t know who RS is?

Yeah, I supposed it was RLVG but lol.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Also, I don't see how scv claims that he was trying to bait a train on himself and that I got "caught". I feel like scv is scum and trying to reshape the narrative to suit his purposes. This seems like something a scum player has more incentive to do than a town player who is only supposed to be motivated in sussing out the truth.

But Scv is Scv. And RLVG and PowersThatBe are gonna hate me for calling meta AGAIN, but still.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

well i'm going to bed soon and i'm not going to leave my vote on the table

-unvote

the only two players i feel are town at the moment are distorted and whad, i think scv and mm are suspkt see yall in the morning

Nice. I'd like to see a list of your reads, and why these reads are as they are.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Hybrid , wake up... You've got reading to do!

[Distorted]

Nice. I'd like to see a list of your reads, and why these reads are as they are.

I would still like to see a list of your reads as well. So far you have accused but have not cited ANY quotes of anything that you are accusing. I gave a long list, Whad did as well. You blatantly ignored that and posted up:

The Scvmurderer Train

=» L-2
=» Accusated of nothing clearly by his voters
=» Suspected of wanting to get easy lynches, and to jump on every possible train (hmm u padded the wording a lot there)
=» Lack of explicit reasons to lynch


The Distorted Train

=» L-3
=» Detailed accusations of defensiveness and contradiction; general apathy and no intent to make the game advance, apparently
=» Suspected of being Armadyus Follower ---(by who?)---
=» Reasons to lynch good enough in the writer's opinion
=»
-vote Distorted


Please cite examples of defensiveness AND contradictions. As well as "no intent to make the game advance". I did not vote within the first 10 minutes of my first forum mafia game. You have played the mod many many times and you know the strategies in both; it seems you are using my "ignorance" of how forum mafia works to justify reasoning of me being suspicious. You have ignored all the evidence presented by 3 people, not even ADDRESSED IT, yet posted up a comparison saying lack of evidence. Once again, please cite some examples of your accusations against people rather then hollow conclusions.

[Distorted]

-vote unvote

[Distorted]

-vote marshmallow marshall

[Scvmurderer]

-vote marshmallow marshall

Interesting turn around. Explainations?

[Scvmurderer]

-vote marshmallow marshall

I will say I dont like MM's defence of me. It almost seems like a Amadyus follower setting up a scape goat Amadyus should he be lynched and revealed.

[Distorted]

Interesting turn around. Explainations?

He has been talking about what has been happening and drawing random conclusions without citing. Would like more detail into where these are coming from and the reasons behind his actions. He is putting on an "illusion" of investigating and helping, yet no real evidence behind any of it.

[Scvmurderer]

I got a feeling your going to be the most active poster distorted, knowing how your on all the time. Nice to have an active poster, it's refreshing change to the lurkers we've recently had.

[Unknown1234]

Hello.

[Scvmurderer]

Hello.

Goodnight

[Unknown1234]

If someone is gonna be around soon I will be here.

[Distorted]

I got a feeling your going to be the most active poster distorted, knowing how your on all the time. Nice to have an active poster, it's refreshing change to the lurkers we've recently had.

being able to work from home has its benefits. Gnight.


You're still suspicious.........

[Unknown1234]

Huh??? No, please quote.

I’m probably wrong that’s why I wasn’t sure if I remembered correctly

[Unknown1234]

He has been talking about what has been happening and drawing random conclusions without citing. Would like more detail into where these are coming from and the reasons behind his actions. He is putting on an "illusion" of investigating and helping, yet no real evidence behind any of it.

Do you have examples of random conclusions that they’ve made? I also don’t really understand when you say that they haven’t had evidence in their arguments.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I will say I dont like MM's defence of me. It almost seems like a Amadyus follower setting up a scape goat Amadyus should he be lynched and revealed.

Are you claiming Armadyus or what??

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I would still like to see a list of your reads as well. So far you have accused but have not cited ANY quotes of anything that you are accusing. I gave a long list, Whad did as well. You blatantly ignored that and posted up:

The Scvmurderer Train

=» L-2
=» Accusated of nothing clearly by his voters
=» Suspected of wanting to get easy lynches, and to jump on every possible train (hmm u padded the wording a lot there)
=» Lack of explicit reasons to lynch


The Distorted Train

=» L-3
=» Detailed accusations of defensiveness and contradiction; general apathy and no intent to make the game advance, apparently
=» Suspected of being Armadyus Follower ---(by who?)---
=» Reasons to lynch good enough in the writer's opinion
=»
-vote Distorted


Please cite examples of defensiveness AND contradictions. As well as "no intent to make the game advance". I did not vote within the first 10 minutes of my first forum mafia game. You have played the mod many many times and you know the strategies in both; it seems you are using my "ignorance" of how forum mafia works to justify reasoning of me being suspicious. You have ignored all the evidence presented by 3 people, not even ADDRESSED IT, yet posted up a comparison saying lack of evidence. Once again, please cite some examples of your accusations against people rather then hollow conclusions.

Ok. I'll make a list of reads, and instead of using glow (which is apparently forbidden), I'll use lighter colors to say it's a slight lean. And it's not "no intent to make the game advance", it's intent to make the game stall. Defensiveness is a general state. Which "evidences" are you talking about? I've told you what the contradiction was. Now I'll make the list of reads.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

RLVG
Unknown1234
Whad

blinkskater
Scvmurderer





Hybrid
Efekannn02

Distorted

[Marshmallow Marshall]

He has been talking about what has been happening and drawing random conclusions without citing. Would like more detail into where these are coming from and the reasons behind his actions. He is putting on an "illusion" of investigating and helping, yet no real evidence behind any of it.

Which "real evidence" you expect in a nightless setup without TPRs?

[Hybrid]

Gonna take a great look at posts when i m home like about 8 hoyr later for now to all those who dont know efe just dont try or else you ll get confused af. I can read efe though so no probs here
2ndlt mm s logic is always ultra bad u may as well ignpre him
3rdly to news please dont sheep nor deflect the obvious please thnx

[Hybrid]

And also i ve alwaaays wondered how unknown is in fmes and irl ^^ hope we can get along =))