S-FM President

[Richard Nixon]

He's "on his Phone"

I mean I was on my phone for all of D1 when I played.. all my posts last hour+ have been from computer but yea I usually just play from phone

[Richard Nixon]

Your list is shitty af dude !
Nixon and jefferson are just afk, even if Jefferson just showed up.

nice.... if Jefferson turns up scum, Reagan is scum or vise versa

[Richard Nixon]

Tbh, I would agree on that. @Bill Clinton , I would like you to daykill the President. It doesn't end the day, sooo... go go go?

Why the fuck wouldn't you want to wait til EOD when everyone has had their chance to talk before shooting somebody?

[Richard Nixon]

Dude please don't do that if you value your life.

why do u keep quoting my posts in unrelated stuff?

[Richard Nixon]

It's called pressuring.

this was super obvious, Lincoln your reaction of "OH GOD DO NOT LYNCH TRUMP PLEASE!!!!!" was so stupid and fake I hate it

[Richard Nixon]

If we summarize the game right now :

Nixon disappeared early D2.
Trump is avoiding conflict and not answering.
Bush and Jefferson are just showing up every 8 hours to write a text.
Obama also didn't showed up since a while.
JFK is catching up?
Washington, Lincolm, Clinton and myself are here.
Roosevelt kind of gave up after the fight with Washington?

I was on start of D2 and stayed on until I went to bed. That is not disappearing it's just GOING TO SLEEP AND NOT COMING BACK UNTIL I HAD TIME

[Richard Nixon]

^^ exactly. I believe he's safe to lynch. And if Washington claimed TPR later on, I believe we should simply lynch our scumreads instead of thinking about strategy that may or may not work, and that could fuck us over.

Cool I am safe to lynch because of the very first post I responded to tonight where you claimed I was too confident to be town. Okay cool! Hopefully other people actually read that post and its response rather than continuing to sheep you

[George Bush]

-vote George washington

My town block fell apart =[

[Richard Nixon]

Screw You Scum That Tactic Wont Work On Me I Saw You Were Trying To Pressure Me But I Am The Great Mighty Lord Of The Null Reads I Am Citizen Ahahahahaaha

I am shocked he said this rather than just trolling more. TBH that gives me a scum vibe from him as I would have expected him as town to keep trolling with the goal of identifying the scum by those who tried to push a desperation lynch on him

[Richard Nixon]

... lol I honestly think he's town. I don't see him doing that as town.
Also before any of you characters think about doing some shit just know that
I AM TOWN ASSASSIN

haha I said at start of D1 you would change your roleclaim when u first said something like "we should claim our roles and stick to them" or whatever

[Richard Nixon]

Lol my claim serves as a counter to your fucking autistic speedlynching fest. I am not Town Assassin, now that you mention.

shocker

[Richard Nixon]

If that's your way of pressuring people, do it in a way that doesn't give me a heart attack please.

The whole point of pressuring is that it gives the person being pressured a heart attack u dunce

[Richard Nixon]

Are you sure about this?

FUCKING REKT HAHAHAHAHAHA

but way to avoid contributing again jefferson

[Richard Nixon]

Oh yeah.



I claim TPR, mother fuckers.

Nice irrelevant claim, but thanks for that

[Richard Nixon]

Roosevelt IS "scum". He's Turncoat, I'm convinced of that. And his target, apparently, is Washington. Washington is Town in my opinion. Therefore, Roosevelt is aligned against town, because he needs to see the President's faction (Which is Town, I believe, and I believe Roosevelts thinks that too) lose. BUUUUUUUUT we can't kill Turncoat because else he possesses one of us and fucks us over because he has votes. Hell, he even has the possibility to get President votes. Does that clarify things? @Bill Clinton also notice my claim ;)

Congratulations on being convinced of what he wanted you to believe

[Richard Nixon]

+++++++townpoints. I have the same thoughts going from the same thinking process. We shall NOT lynch Theodore Roosevelt. Never ever. Nor Washington in my opinion, at least not yet. I have my theory on who's scum I will post that after I'm done reading. Bush will be happy, it will be a long post.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ townpoints really? He stated the obvious FFS

[Richard Nixon]

We can actually Lynch Roosevelt if you guys think that is a good idea! I can block him once or twice if the mafia don't have a consort or a bus driver (or if they don't kill me at night)

WTF? You can't block him you can guess his target and block that player. If he is turncoat and we lynched him he could easily choose to possess ANYBODY and you have a very slim chance of stopping him if you're really escort

[Richard Nixon]

Oh, don't you worry, I scum hunted. I just didn't spread out on it because I was asking questions and thinking about it silently. And I had to help town sort out the bullshit with you and Theodore Roosevelt :P

Isn't it what is scummy with Nixon (Partially)?

We can't lynch Roosevelt. That is an absolute.

Obama read is bs lol, this is a logical fallacy. He was town like so he's scum. JA JA JA!

Aah... he promised to contribute. If he doesn't, to the gallows with him.

Agreed on lincoln

Trump could be pulling WIFOM on that, and it's why it's scummy. And the problem with that strategy, as scum, is that you cannot control what your scummates do, aka how they interact with you... ^^ hence my theory coming soon.

Same gut read + some stuff like the big post with all the possibilities with you and Roosevelt

Yeaaaaaah I believe he's town... but I'm unsure. He could be Bruiser.

My read on you is Townish.


This is a short list of reads, ftr.

what is scummy with Nixon in direct response to this post from Washington? What he said about me or what he said about you?

[John Kennedy]

What was your point on Roosevelt. Sorry but this sounds fake AF

Then you did not understand the Roosevelt - Truman convo on D1 AT ALL.

I let them go at eachother's throats to see what was going out of it. Roosevelt had posted something scummy, if I remember correctly, he said Truman was discrediting him but in fact he was the one who was discrediting ^^

I did not want to say it right at the moment of the post because I wanted to see how Truman would get out of it, and how Roosevelt would keep pushing. My conclusion was that Truman was probably Town, which was against most people's opinions at that moment, and that Roosevelt was scum or sponsor/turncoat.

[Richard Nixon]

The Ultimate Reads!

So. Nixon is very probably scum. He is cautious, he is not confused (and this game is one of the most confusing I have ever played), he is scummy by his support to survivor, as Lincoln said, because he did NOT have the same thoughts than the people that wanted to elect Washingtown for Town reasons. That was already explained and all. Plus... see next part.

Now, who could be with Nixon? Well... TRUMP. Nixon never interacted with Trump, he's part of the few who just let him dance around. Even if scums don't know eachother, only a scum would enjoy seeing someone acting stupidly anti-town without saying shit about it.
And then, I'm thinking about Bush, Jefferson or (less likely imo) Obama. Bush is scummy alone, because of his posting style and gut... I mean, it's not hard arguments or anything, but he hasn't even talked to Trump either.


Thoughts?

P.S. I'm caught up now

Cool, stick to me being scum and nobody else after about 16 hours from when I last went offline and you had said I was scum for being confident. Way to avoid responding to what other people said all day and stick to the easy scum read that everyone was spamming all day.


That shit about me not interacting with trump is bullshit too. THE FIRST POST OF MINE THAT YOU SAID I WAS TOO CONFIDENT TO BE TOWN LITERALLY INCLUDED AN ANALYSIS OF HOW TRUMP WAS PLAYING U DIPSHIT. Not to mention how NOBODY "INTERACTED" WITH TRUMP BECAUSE ALL HE SAID WAS FUCK HILLARY CLINTON

[John Kennedy]

what is scummy with Nixon in direct response to this post from Washington? What he said about me or what he said about you?

He "currently does not have any read whatsoever on you", and he's not the only one. Your posts, even if they were quite noticeable, were not scummy by themselves (They are not slipping anything, or looking like scum painting, etc.) but they are not town-like, they do not give a town vibe or anything.

[Richard Nixon]

Haven't caught up. Got to page 33, but I have to say this bc i'm so confused on the direction the town is moving.

wtf we are NOT letting washington live tonight. I don't give a fudge how towny they think they were by doing the gambit they did. It shouldn't be done. And death to Washington.

After that, Lincoln is literally posting so much back and forth. Teddy got it right. He's agreeing with the last 'logical' post said. Lincoln is also 'scum' but at the moment, we should leash him. Direct the block on someone scummy... Like...

Nixon. Nixon is the last person that is skating by.

Also I don't think Regan is as scummy anymore.

Also, Lincoln can have the chance to redeem them self, but at the moment, he's my #2/3 lynch priority.

OKay carrying on reading


also
@Donald Trump
@George Washington
@Thomas Jefferson
@Theodore Roosevelt

Please report who you voted for for the presidency

Being literally offline and skating by are separate concepts. Thanks.

[John Kennedy]

He "currently does not have any read whatsoever on you", and he's not the only one. Your posts, even if they were quite noticeable, were not scummy by themselves (They are not slipping anything, or looking like scum painting, etc.) but they are not town-like, they do not give a town vibe or anything.

Sorry, the pronouns are messed up, this is about Nixon all over the post.

[Richard Nixon]

Trying to find out if they will be shot for doing it. this is a mafia backing down from THE FIRST FREE LYNCH THEY CAN GET. Washington would 100% have hammered here if it was not for the fake vigi claiming to shoot him.

that's another good point. I was strongly sided with Washington at the start of this thing but you've kept making better points throughout since then and I'm less sure about u being mafia now

[Richard Nixon]

double edged sword / trap here. if he came back at L-3 you would have pushed him saying he is coming back to save face. Now he didn't do that and you are saying he is scummy because he is coming back when it's safe. Trump is the easy scapegoat. We see it now in real life and we are seeing it in this game. Trump is town.

Got Washington again jesus

[Richard Nixon]

well i got to page 37. I'm sorry I can only participate as much as I can, but if people are scum reading me for 'posting every 8 hours' (which is categorically false), so be it.

@John Kennedy , I'll be putting my vote on who I think is suspicious, but this 1 vote system is arcane and unexpressive. Nixon is my second choice. I'd be VERY down to vote him, but I also want to see if anyone would vote Lincoln.

Wait, I want Lincoln leashed for now. I just wish they'd stop talking.

okay back to Nixon or Washington. I'd rather Washington be shot than lynched right? Or does it not matter if he's scum.

-vote George Washington

Anyway tagging you bc I very much agree Nixon needs to go.

GTG, but I might be reading while I'm at the gym.

Why do I need to go? From what I've been reading you were not particularly scum-reading me before and now hours later just because I wasn't online I am confirmed scum?

[Richard Nixon]

thoughts are u just named someone who has been scumread by most people, then teamed him with someone who was pushed by most people. You are just crowd pleasing with these reads.

Ayyyy the evilest-looking person is the only one to defend me, I am honored

[Richard Nixon]

Ok real talk if Washington is town, which I don’t believe, you’re going about this presidency in the wrong way. You think you’re confirmed tow. Which you’re not and you’re asking people to do these super ballsy things.

It’s better to have a leashes scum stripper than to kill the TCand have him on that, or whatever you’re saying. Plz stop.

Also I haven’t read past 37. Just giving thoughts bc apparently you don’t like quality over quantity posts. But I’m not skirting by and I hate being sc read for it. And it appears that I need to be active to help town assassin not shoot the wrong person.

You hate being scum read for it but you scum read me for it

[John Kennedy]

Cool, stick to me being scum and nobody else after about 16 hours from when I last went offline and you had said I was scum for being confident. Way to avoid responding to what other people said all day and stick to the easy scum read that everyone was spamming all day.


That shit about me not interacting with trump is bullshit too. THE FIRST POST OF MINE THAT YOU SAID I WAS TOO CONFIDENT TO BE TOWN LITERALLY INCLUDED AN ANALYSIS OF HOW TRUMP WAS PLAYING U DIPSHIT. Not to mention how NOBODY "INTERACTED" WITH TRUMP BECAUSE ALL HE SAID WAS FUCK HILLARY CLINTON

Nope. It's just that the game makes more sense if you're scum, and the other possibilities, like Washington, Roosevelt or Bush are getting less and less scummy, Roosevelt being 99% non-mafia, Washington being town IMO, I pushed at him (proving you are terribly wrong with your assumption of me being tunneled on you), and Bush answering like a town would do.

I started the scum read on you, and it was far from spammed all day long ^^ as I said, the theory that makes the most sense is the one where you're scum, with people that are quite silent, and Trump gets in that.

It's not an interaction, it's a distant read. It's different. And yes, some people interacted with Trump, trying to get him to post and all.

And right now, I don't see that as town anger but as scum getting defensive... Tbh, I wonder if I'm not overthinking that part. @Barack Obama what do you think about it? @Thomas Jefferson same question?

[John Kennedy]

Ayyyy the evilest-looking person is the only one to defend me, I am honored

This person is a fucking turncoat lol.

[Richard Nixon]

we had trump on L-0 with washington active and he could hammer.
i don't think he's scum atm

Why do y'all keep projecting this stupid idea that only scum would hammer ABOUT 24 HOURS BEFORE EOD. NOBODY WOULD HAMMER UNLESS THEY ARE LITERALLY THE DUMBEST PERSON EVER SO THAT IS NAI

[Richard Nixon]

^^ I'm good with getting you off the lynch pool for now. This is a townie's post. Now carry on. And seriously, do not fucking lynch Bush today, ESPECIALLY NOT THAT EARLY.

Then apparently you can't lynch me either because my defense is the same as his but with far more LOGIC behind it and less whiny emotion

[Richard Nixon]

Because I won't follow the guy that was blindly elected, lied about his role, and is pushing at people with "overthreating"? I read you as town, but it's not a reason to blindly follow you. Don't push.

"don't push" okay

[John Kennedy]

Why do y'all keep projecting this stupid idea that only scum would hammer ABOUT 24 HOURS BEFORE EOD. NOBODY WOULD HAMMER UNLESS THEY ARE LITERALLY THE DUMBEST PERSON EVER SO THAT IS NAI

Do you know WIFOM, sir? The little green block over your avatar says so, but I'm getting unsure :P

[John Kennedy]

Then apparently you can't lynch me either because my defense is the same as his but with far more LOGIC behind it and less whiny emotion

...no. 1: you don't have the same defense and 2: you don't have less whiny emotion lol.

[John Kennedy]

"don't push" okay

Bad wording lol, check next post

[Abraham Lincoln]

Trying to find out if they will be shot for doing it. this is a mafia backing down from THE FIRST FREE LYNCH THEY CAN GET. Washington would 100% have hammered here if it was not for the fake vigi claiming to shoot him.

This is 100% FAKE NEWS

[Richard Nixon]

George Bush's Reads List and Commentaries
-You can treat this as a last will


JFK
Solid Town Read, why did you claim TPR for no reason??

Jefferson
I think they're like me, our town reads are lining up for the most part, and is able to recognize that I'm a town playing the best I can.

Bill Clinton
Town pretty much bc of the assassin claim. They either have to shoot a mafia to get some ultimate town cred, or do a very town helpful kill, even if it doesn't give Clinton much information. Otherwise, it goes to a scum slot.

Obama
Is this slot even active? Some people mentioned that he's a cit claimer and almost elected President???

Reagan
Initially thought scummish, but I like other people as scum now. Slotting as a town that doesn't know how to actually be helpful, and I mean no disrespect with it. Just a subjective interpreation

Trump
I'm not good enough at Mafia to read Trump's slot. Hail Mary lynch for later

Lincoln
Going back and forth, feeding hysteria and being OBVIOUSLY opportunistic. Lincoln needs to go. Fuck, I keep saying this, but then I remember a leashed escort is good for town.

Nixon
I forget why I scum read him last, but all I know is that it's valid. And so do others

Washington
I guess I'll lay out the case for you Washington, hopefully you can see it in my eyes. (I'm addressing you as if you're town, since thats productive conversation). You're a policy lynch for what you did yesterday. Your gambit aside, you're not my top scum read, but the move you did cannot be left unpunished. You should have earned the presidency, not wasted town's opportunity. There are cases to be made against policy lynches, but I don't think you're one of them.

What you did goes against the town's best options for winning the game. You sowed so much distrust, and conversation on whether you're good or evil bc of the tactic you pulled. If this happens in every game from now on, people will be more likely to pull selfish plays to try and win, and (I think) that's not the best way for town to continue winning. If this continues to happen, I just won't play with y'all anymore.

I"m not laying out the case as best as I should against you, but above is partly what I'm actually thinking.

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The order I have is pretty valid.

The scum read on me right there sums up about everything I have read for the past few hours

[John Kennedy]

The scum read on me right there sums up about everything I have read for the past few hours

Even if I disagree, I admit that it's funny :P

[Richard Nixon]

I claimed because I felt it was good to know at that moment. Oh, and because a half-braindead assassin threatned me for a reason he never explained. lol.

I agree with your town reads.


@Barack Obama We need you! Come with us! I feel like you got the town read from everyone, and then ran away with it

Reagan is helpful. His post about Roosevelt and Washington was really good.

Trump... Yeah he's confusing.


Lincoln is a confused town IMO. I'm not in for his lynch today, that's an absolute.

lol but he's my scummest scum read soooooo :P

I believe you are right, that this kind of play should not be. But I'm not ready to sacrifice a game for a punitive meta move, especially in an "anon" game. However, yes, that is a bad play from him, and I hope he understands it.


Good list :P

You won't lynch Washington for his apparent bad way of behaving D1, but I'm still the top scum read for being "confident" D1. Okay, good to know.

[John Kennedy]

You won't lynch Washington for his apparent bad way of behaving D1, but I'm still the top scum read for being "confident" D1. Okay, good to know.

Bad plays =/= scum. Just bad plays. I agree it's a bad play, but I do not think he is scum. And I refuse to lynch Washington in the name of punitive meta at this stage of the game. However, if I was really tied, 50/50, about who to lynch, they're both at L-1 and all, I'd pick Washington to make a punitive meta. Just not at the cost of what I believe to be right.

[Abraham Lincoln]

George Bush's Reads List and Commentaries
-You can treat this as a last will


JFK
Solid Town Read, why did you claim TPR for no reason??

Jefferson
I think they're like me, our town reads are lining up for the most part, and is able to recognize that I'm a town playing the best I can.

Bill Clinton
Town pretty much bc of the assassin claim. They either have to shoot a mafia to get some ultimate town cred, or do a very town helpful kill, even if it doesn't give Clinton much information. Otherwise, it goes to a scum slot.

Obama
Is this slot even active? Some people mentioned that he's a cit claimer and almost elected President???

Reagan
Initially thought scummish, but I like other people as scum now. Slotting as a town that doesn't know how to actually be helpful, and I mean no disrespect with it. Just a subjective interpreation

Trump
I'm not good enough at Mafia to read Trump's slot. Hail Mary lynch for later

Lincoln
Going back and forth, feeding hysteria and being OBVIOUSLY opportunistic. Lincoln needs to go. Fuck, I keep saying this, but then I remember a leashed escort is good for town.

Nixon
I forget why I scum read him last, but all I know is that it's valid. And so do others

Washington
I guess I'll lay out the case for you Washington, hopefully you can see it in my eyes. (I'm addressing you as if you're town, since thats productive conversation). You're a policy lynch for what you did yesterday. Your gambit aside, you're not my top scum read, but the move you did cannot be left unpunished. You should have earned the presidency, not wasted town's opportunity. There are cases to be made against policy lynches, but I don't think you're one of them.

What you did goes against the town's best options for winning the game. You sowed so much distrust, and conversation on whether you're good or evil bc of the tactic you pulled. If this happens in every game from now on, people will be more likely to pull selfish plays to try and win, and (I think) that's not the best way for town to continue winning. If this continues to happen, I just won't play with y'all anymore.

I"m not laying out the case as best as I should against you, but above is partly what I'm actually thinking.

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The order I have is pretty valid.

Wtf are you talking about? I don't mind people putting me in their scum reads (although, by this point, I think it should be fairly obvious that I am not scum), but your stating that I am OBVIOUSLY OPPORTUNISTIC is just fucking scummy lol

[Richard Nixon]

Can Jefferson and Clinton talk to me why I shouldn't go for Washington and convince me to go with my alternate scum reads of Nixon and Lincoln?

Clinton, I'd be down to get Reagan only to see a lynch go through. Right now, no one's voting with you, so your train doesn't seem great.

Jefferson, you're not voting anyone.

OKay NOW I GOT TO GO DO REAL LIFE STUFF. BE BACK MAYBE LATER TONIGHT OR TOMORROW WHEN I WAKE UP. HOPE MY PRESENCE WAS ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE.

ffs.

I like how you would lynch me when your scumread on me was like "I forget why he's scum but other people said so, so it's true"

[John Kennedy]

Wtf are you talking about? I don't mind people putting me in their scum reads (although, by this point, I think it should be fairly obvious that I am not scum), but your stating that I am OBVIOUSLY OPPORTUNISTIC is just fucking scummy lol

Man, you're so confusing that I honestly understand the scum reads lol.

[John Kennedy]

I like how you would lynch me when your scumread on me was like "I forget why he's scum but other people said so, so it's true"

Hmm, that's true. If you flip town, I promise to look into that more, because it is indeed scummy.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Doubtful. He's just been Com-hunting all game like a douche and now has the people he knows in his head as their out-of-game names rather than their in-game names

I'm not comhunting... lol for example I don't know your identity nor Bush's nor Reagan's

[John Kennedy]

Oh yeah, could people get votes off our President and put them on a scum read that is NOT him? The discussion was mainly on him before I arrived, and it's not beneficial to town to be that tunneled on someone.

[Richard Nixon]

FOR FUCKS SAKE, @EVERYONE!!! NO ONE'S ACTUALLY READING THESE POSTS. THEY'RE EFFECTIVELY JUST SPAM

sorry to rail on you for that, but this is the best example I can find for stream of conscious posting not helping the town. It's stale. It's spam. It doesn't help town. IT's anti town. Stop making things difficult for town.

okay bye for now!

Fuck yourself. If you don't read my posts and continue to scum-read me and you're town, you're a moron. Your last read on me even indicated absolutely no reason for me to be mafia other than other people saying I was. A scum would come back and just say "oh hey guys I am back what did I miss? Let's lynch X!" I took fucking 4+ hours just now to respond to everything I missed and you're going to ignore it? SERIOUSLY?

[John Kennedy]

I'm not comhunting... lol for example I don't know your identity nor Bush's nor Reagan's

...bang head here? plus if i remembmer correcly that was to Roosevelt :P

[Abraham Lincoln]

again with the meta shit. Gosh I bet you're easy to manipulate. All I have to do is act like one of your friends does in their normal town meta and boom I am a town read right? This is really sad play. That being said I do still think Washington is a bro but your reasoning is shit

Lol nice of you to reply solely to this post, I was actually the one who suggested that we vote for Washington in the first place, and no that wasn't a meta read. Fuck off.