I understand that converted SC2 players lose if Hybrid is lynched, but do the main clan leaders (efe, Distorted, SCV) lose as well?
I understand that converted SC2 players lose if Hybrid is lynched, but do the main clan leaders (efe, Distorted, SCV) lose as well?
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
So, unlike a town vs mafia traditional setup, there is no scum team here on D1 that we can try to identify based on them aligning with each other/defending each other. So basically it's just a random lynch.... I guess we could do that, but I am thinking we could also just skip? If we randomly lynch we could end up lynching Hybrid, whereas if we skip we really don't lose anything...…………….
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
skwirl is the weakest clan at converting while efe and scv can kill townies.
I don't think skipping is a good decision for anyone other than efe and scv.
I guess Hybrid is literally the only player who is hurt by skipping the lynch, since he could get killed at night. The clan leaders are NI, the StarCraft players still win even if they die, Dunna and Staff are immune, and MafiaZ can still easily win even if he's dead. Yea I vote to not lynch anybody.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
mafiaZ and scv aren't night immune
From my reading of the setup, there seems to be 2 main factions - those who want hybrid lynched and those who do not. Then of those who do not want him lynched, there are the 3 main cult leaders who each want to win for themselves but don't give a shit about anybody else. I don't really see a reason for starcraft players to align with or against Efe, Skwirl, or Scv. You can guess which one will end up the most powerful but that doesn't really matter - as normal SC2 Player you win with any of them. If you're converted then you want your clan to win. I don't see a reason to choose a side unless you're converted or you somehow know which one of them will convert you.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
I said MafiaZ can easily win if he's dead. His win conditions don't even involve himself at all. You are right about SCV but there is only actually 1 player who can kill him. So then as someone who is strongly against this I guess you are claiming to be either MafiaZ or SCV.
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I am not claiming any roles
that bias comes from me siding with distorted, who I see as confirmed mayor right now.
you on the other hand being strongly for skipping and letting efe kill someone makes me think that you actually are either efe or, in your case more likely, dunna.
Why do you see distorted as confirmed mayor? How does that make any sense? This setup is nowhere close to a mod 933...………. Distorted is not a member of the town and if he loses then every SC2 player he converted loses with him whilst the other unconverted SC2 players win. I cannot see any reason to prefer Distorted over Efe or Scv as an unconverted SC2 player.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
every skwirl member can be converted to any other clan in case he dies and noone of them is going to lose from that.
but for now he is revealed and unlynchable and has the ability to check up on two players every night
if someone gets converted to efeM or choo there's a good chance on dying and having no way of winning anymore on the other hand
remember efeM get killed from being visited by either scv or skwirl and scv dies from visiting the actual efekannn
or mafiaz, yes
that's why I would want scv dead as first thing
If one gets converted to Efe, what incentive do they have for supporting the clan, or just doing anything other than trying to sabotage their leader?
The same applies to the other two clans when Efe dies.
I'm down for lynching mag @aamirus
I guess I see what you're saying, but personally I'd rather wait and see what happens/if I get converted before committing to a single side. If we killed off SCV today the thing is that Skwirl/MafiaZ doesn't really have much of any ability to fight EfeM - EfeM players cannot be converted back to SC2 players and the whole dying 2 days after being visited by Distorted thing without a reconversion doesn't seem like it would ever happen. Hence why SCV is really kind of the balance in the force here. Sure Distorted can convert more often in theory than Efe can, but there is only a pool of 5 players that any of the cults can convert from so I don't think the Skwirl/MafiaZ would realistically be able to achieve a voting majority, especially since their converts can be stolen by Efe but Efe's converts can never go back to being SC2 Players.
Well, that and we don't have any realistic way of figuring out (FOR TODAY) who is Scv/Efe/Dunna/MafiaZ/Hybrid/SC2Player and it's just a random lynch today.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
when an efe member gets visited by either scv or distorted he dies and then loses once efe loses
I think that's a pretty good reason to support efe when your his clan member
mafiaZ cannot get converted to efeM
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
From what I gathered, only the clan leaders win if their clans win... correct me if I'm wrong?
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
One thing that is concerning is that the clan leaders can choose to screw over their clanmates and lynch Hybrid. I could see this happening since near the end of the game, if MafiaZ, Staff Member, and Hybrid are all still alive they could be a huge swing vote block and they could demand for hybrid to be lynched similar to the way Jesters often demand to be lynched at the end of a close Mod mafia game.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?