Originally Posted by
yzb25
Fuck it, I'm sick of reading posts. I want to actually give my thoughts. I apologize if there's something key that has happened post 1140, right now I just want to puke my thoughts.
Naz is a townread for me. However, I don't townread her because "lol this is Naz town meta so confirmed". That's dumb, because she's clearly aware of her own meta, and her personality doesn't exactly seem shy, so she wouldn't have a problem acting aggro as scum.
The reason I townread her is her attempts to move on from the Rumox shenanigans and actually ask others questions / build new reads and shit. In her position, it would have been easy to just tunnel and not talk about anything but Rumox and Unknown because you guys give her free townreads.
Also, she seems to actually think Magoroth is town and has tried to reach out to him and reconcilliate with him, which is probably difficult given how frustrating Mago is acting and the fact she seems rather proud.
The reason why I feel the need to point this out is because, if we conjecture that Naz is town, then clearly the capitalists will know she's probably town and will have to fabricate reasons to townread her (if they choose to townread her).
In particular, MM's townread of Naz seems fake as fuck. In fact, MM's reads in general seem fake as fuck. When he gave his reads on everyone, half of them were pure meta reads. This looks fake as fuck because he himself admitted a few posts later that meta reads are dumb, which means meta is not the actual reason he's reading those people as he says he is. In other words, the reads are fabricated.
The flipflop on Magoroth is also key to note. At the start of the day he claimed to have FoS on Magoroth, then later switched to a townread "cuz Mago proposing shitty theories is Mago's town-meta LOL XD XD XD". It reads like a SvS where MM wanted to distance himself from Mago a little so he didn't seem like he was buddying him later.
The SvS read works so well in my head because I also scumread Mago. Don't get me wrong, he does seem like a genuine scatterbrain. Just read the first couple pages where he goes along with the daystart banter only to suddenly insist that this is "creating a breeding ground for scum" and completely flips his attitude. Obviously, that's just scatterbrainery 101 and NAI.
However, sometimes it seems like he's actively exploiting his own aura of appearing "clumsy" to push an agenda / cause confusion. When Unknown and Naz were having an already heated discussion, he spread chaos / frustrated Naz by literally lying about her posts. Off the top of my head:
-One time he asked the loaded question "why are you still tunneling Rumox Naz" when Naz had lifted the vote for ages and decided the Rumox vote was unproductive.
-This other time he said some super dumb shit "interesting to note that Naz has never said she's town". Not only is that dumb and meaningless but Naz had actually said she's town loads of times.
When Naz pointed this out to him he just kept pushing the Naz train for ages with no self-reflection. If I was a scatterbrain in that position I'd be like "woa wtf I'm clearly wrong about this person I should read their posts again before posting more inane crap" but he didn't do that.
When he literally copy-pasted setup through spoiler tags for "future setup analysis" that seemed fake as shit and looked like he was just trying to give off the impression he was trying to help town. In fact, all the inane setup discussion he indulged in gave off that vibe. When he wrote that post completely misunderstanding the Sleeping Agent that seemed fake as shit, given literally reading the role for 2 seconds would make it very obvious the Sleeping Agent had nothing to do with roleblocking. It seemed like he was setting himself up as the archetypal scatterbrain again when he did that.
*exhale
I also don't like Fielzanks, but he's the kind of person you really need to go back and dig up quotes and analyze the shit out of him to explain why exactly. Various posts he makes have a clear, plausible scum agenda. Aamyrus did a stellar analysis of his strategy post (I didn't really read it that way at first, but it clicks for me now). Going to such detail about the actions scum will "likely *wink wink*" take did not help town at all because he did not propose any strategies to counter the scum's likely night plan for Lenin and Trotsky. However, going into such detail about what actions scum will "likely" take tonight had tangible benefits for coaching scum on how they should play today.