S-FM 181 Flash Point Revisited

[Frozen Angel]

yeah that cyborg - batman kill kind of destroyed the town that early

and flash was watching me :P

[Toadette]

So the game is over.

Sup guys. I'm really sad over that I were forced to replace out because of computer issues.



I also realize that I ruined a lot by using my action lol. I targeted Ika to roleblock him / defend him simultaneously, didn't read the chat because it's obnoxious as fuck on mobile.

God that was so funny I'm glad you did it

[Firebringer]

Are you rerolling, Firebringer?
I have a queued game that was starting in some days, but I don't mind delaying its start if your re-roll starts right away.

I will ask Orpz if I can do a reroll since many of you requested it, but I doubt he will grant it given the circumstances.
I would also have to substitute out at least Suntax and possibly other players. Not to mention the MFM is going on which means some people wont want to play.

[Toadette]

On second thought, you're right, we've rerolled too many setups and there's setups like Sen's that I would rather play, so count me out of a reroll

[Firebringer]

Game Over

Toadette decided to give up on life:

Toadette was a Amazonian Spy

Spoiler : Last Will :

Removed as requested.

Player List	Role List	Comic Book Dead
1. Toadette 2. Ika 3. Silverwolf 4. Sen 5. Gamefreak 6. Frozen Angel 7. SuperJack 8. secondpassing 9. Aristophanes 10. Mikecall 11. Calix 12. Suntax 13. Bahkieh	Cyborg- [Unique Role] Flash- [Unique Role] Batman-[Unique Role] Justice League-(Town Selected) Justice League-(Town Selected) Justice League-(Town Selected) Justice League- (Town Selected) Justice League- (Town Selected) Aqua man-[Unique Role] Atlantean-[Atlantis Selected] Wonder Women-[Unique Role] Amazonian-[Amazon Selected] Professor ZOOM-Neutral Evil [Unique Role]	Mikecall-Cyborg SuperJack-Batman Suntax-Professor Zoom Ika-Booster Gold Gamefreak-Flash Secondpassing-Kid Flash

The Game has Tied between Amazonians and Atlanteans!

Frozen Angel was Wonder Woman!
Toadette was Amazonian Spy

Calix was Aqua Man
Bahkieh was Atlantean Scout

Sen, Citizen Cold
Silverwolf, Citizen Cold
Aristophanes, Citizen Cold

[ika]

Ok several things:

First: citizens should win ties
Second: I asked nicely to stop it last game. It I'll say it here, it's one thing to dicredit a person, it's another when you bring personal shit in a game to try to discredit when we have made it clear there are things that are tiggering, scum or not it's unaceptable.
Finally: toad, silver and I have asked you to quit it, when ut continued it showed you didn't care. It doesn't matter if you said sorry. It doesn't matter if your scum. Don't do it. And lightly copying my last will shows that you have a problem with me and silver

I mean cus of you silver and me as well as others I was going to invite will now not be coming over.

Don't even respond here if you want to dicuss this you can take it to pms. I have no further comments on this

[Toadette]

lol

[Firebringer]

Ok several things:

First: citizens should win ties

I thought about this over this morning when I was deciding how to call the game.
My first thought is that yes, Citizen could win this for the game for town. Problem was, scum probably wouldn't allow it.

Imagine this. Both scum teams know each other, so they kill town tonight. Say they kill two of you, that leaves 1 town. Now they go for the followers first because the leaders can hide behind their own followers. goes 1v1v1. The scum agree to lynch the town and it ends in a draw.

Alternatively they could each go for a kill on each team, but this will result in each of them losing. Because scum kills each other its 1v1v3. Town will win. So they won't do this.

Its in scums best interest to not kill each other especially since they are known. I couldn't imagine possibility of town actually winning given the amount of scum left alive. Theoretically possible but unlikely.

[Sen]

Hey, guys, I'm going to keep dragging this idiotic drama in public, but if you want to reply, then do it via pm. k, thx.

Now, onto things that matter; I'll be waiting a day so you can talk to Orpz and see if you are re-rolling, and then I'll either start sending out the invitations or put the start in hold until the reroll is done.

[Calix]

I thought about this over this morning when I was deciding how to call the game.
My first thought is that yes, Citizen could win this for the game for town. Problem was, scum probably wouldn't allow it.

Imagine this. Both scum teams know each other, so they kill town tonight. Say they kill two of you, that leaves 1 town. Now they go for the followers first because the leaders can hide behind their own followers. goes 1v1v1. The scum agree to lynch the town and it ends in a draw.

Alternatively they could each go for a kill on each team, but this will result in each of them losing. Because scum kills each other its 1v1v3. Town will win. So they won't do this.

Its in scums best interest to not kill each other especially since they are known. I couldn't imagine possibility of town actually winning given the amount of scum left alive. Theoretically possible but unlikely.

If town get to the point where they 1v1, they should lose.

[Sen]

If town get to the point where they 1v1, they should lose.

I agree. All TPRs got rekt from the very start, and there wasn't a single scum lynch or kill during the night, yet my plan could've still given the Town a win. That's kind of balanced in Town's favour.

[Sen]

I agree. All TPRs got rekt from the very start, and there wasn't a single scum lynch or kill during the night, yet my plan could've still given the Town a win. That's kind of balanced in Town's favour.

I meant unbalanced.

[Firebringer]

Yes, if the tie mechanic for Citizen Cold wasn't in the game I would have kept the game going. But since it only creates an incentive for the players to do a draw. Its a mechanic that is popular in sc2mafia mod games, that really doesn't translate well to forum games unfortunately.

Should have been strucken out to be honest.

[Sen]

Still, the setup is pretty fun, and I'd love to see it running again after a few minor tweaks. Kind of a shame that Zoom's ability was never used.

Thanks for hosting. (:

[Firebringer]

I agree. All TPRs got rekt from the very start, and there wasn't a single scum lynch or kill during the night, yet my plan could've still given the Town a win. That's kind of balanced in Town's favour.

The town had some alot of power, but so did scum I believe. I think I should have removed the Beguiler part of the scum and gave them either 1 shot unstopable kills or 1 unstopable and 1 undetectable kill or something. The town had some pretty intense power in the night that they unfortunately got screwed over by night actions but it oculd have been an easy town stomp.

[Calix]

The town had some alot of power, but so did scum I believe. I think I should have removed the Beguiler part of the scum and gave them either 1 shot unstopable kills or 1 unstopable and 1 undetectable kill or something. The town had some pretty intense power in the night that they unfortunately got screwed over by night actions but it oculd have been an easy town stomp.

I think that's the problem. Game is too reliant on how the night actions go.

[Firebringer]

I think that's the problem. Game is too reliant on how the night actions go.

Okay, Ill make it all day actions bae. :P

[Calix]

Okay, Ill make it all day actions bae. :P

That would actually be an interesting twist.

But in all seriousness, I'd make Professor Zoom more central as a special mechanic (as opposed to having that and anything else) and maybe merge the scum/ town roles together (so that a role doesn't indicate alignment). I can help you with setup changes if you want

[secondpassing]

I blame Calix for my loss lol. D:

[secondpassing]

I am also rather sad I did not get the time to clear Gamefreak.

[Calix]

I blame Calix for my loss lol. D:

You can shower me with compliments now. It's post-game, lol

[secondpassing]

Calix, you're a great player. I've seen a lot of improvement in emotion control in posts as well. I'd there a way to post this without sarcasm? Maybe people just aren't used to compliments.

Sen is the handsome guy

[secondpassing]

I also really like Toadette's play. Its very intimidating,at some point I'll be confident enough to mount a lynch worthy argument against her as scum.

I have a feeling it's going to take something special.

[secondpassing]

@Firebringer I can probably act as a reserve again, and I will consider signing if ... well special circumstances occur.

[Toadette]

I also really like Toadette's play. Its very intimidating,at some point I'll be confident enough to mount a lynch worthy argument against her as scum.

I have a feeling it's going to take something special.

Now you've made me blush

[Aristophanes]

Well, I sucked ass this game.

Really sorry everyone, timelines were not cooperating, and I am obviously still adjusting to the site. I promise I'll do a lot better next time I sign up for something here!

Also, that quickhammer really surprised me. I apologize for setting it up.

[GameFreak]

The next person to lynch me on my drunkthursday night is no longer my friend.
Nah jk i thought it was hilarious and in disbelief all STPR died so early.
Outmeta'd me hard there.

[SuperJack]

Wtf Happened? 0-o

[SuperJack]

Also. I Successfully looked like Calix in the Jailor chat.
>)O.0)> russia likes!

[Mikecall]

Wtf Happened? 0-o

Turned into a unbelievable draw between the factions of evil. xD.

[Slaol]

I love you too Toadette.

[Toadette]

Too late. I went off into the darkness <\3

[Slaol]

Spoilers: I've been in the darkness this whole time

[Toadette]

The darkness expands for eternity. And there is no light there. Chances of running into you are one in ten trillion - pretty much written off as zero. Sorry <\3

[Slaol]

The darkness expands for eternity. And there is no light there. Chances of running into you are one in ten trillion - pretty much written off as zero. Sorry <\3

Good thing I brought a Fire.

[Toadette]

Good thing I brought a Fire.

Ew he's not coming

[Firebringer]

Ew he's not coming

Don't worry I am just here to record.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm watching FB for you. you guys have fun in darkness

[Toadette]

I'm watching FB for you. you guys have fun in darkness

Naw, FB watch slaol and me and you run off together

[Firebringer]

I'm watching FB for you. you guys have fun in darkness

I need you to watch me so I don't do something naughty.

You are responsible for me!

[Frozen Angel]

Naw, FB watch slaol and me and you run off together

[Frozen Angel]

I need you to watch me so I don't do something naughty.

You are responsible for me!

I will try my best

[Slaol]

Fun story, i was asked to be watched the other day