Night 3

[Coffee]

I want every mafia, their roles, their actions on N1, and their COM identities if they provided them.
Furthermore, I want you and your lover to cooperate together and copypaste EVERY SINGLE POST from EVERY THREAD in ALL THREE of your night chats.

I will provide separate threads for them.

After that is done, we'll discuss what to do from there.

Good luck.

[Token]

Hello, your lovers seem absent. I am hoping this isn't a major bluff, else it's a waste. So, I will proceed once lovers had cooperated, if that's okay with you.

[Mr. Hat]

Good evening. I hope you understand why I cannot give you all that you ask for. My lover and I want to survive and keeping information back is one way to ensure our survival. I will, however, tell you what you shall look for, what roles the godfathers took, and the night actions of both mafia. I will keep the names hidden until it is proven that the town can hold up their end of our alliance.

Here is the line-up:
Sharks:
Consorts (2x)(GF is here)
Disguiser
Consigliere (dead)
Kidnapper (Mr. Hat)

Jets:
Ventriloquist (GF)
Lawyer (Kenny)
Drug Dealer (2x) (1 dead)
Consigliere

The night one actions are this:
Sharks actions:
Disguiser - kill Clyde
Consorts - both too lazy to post their night actions (if they had any actions)
Consigliere - investigate McDaniels
Kidnapper - drive Stephan and Kenny

Jets actions:
Drug Dealer1 - Drug Gerald
Drug Dealer2 - abstaining (I have no idea why the GF had this Drug Dealer abstain)
Lawyer - Kill Timmy
Consigliere - Investigate Jimmy
Ventriloquist - Abstaining

These are the actual actions as far as I know, The Jets' original target was Shelley and I almost regret letting her live.

Here is something that can prove that we are who we say we are. Tell me which role you want to see dead and I shall redirect the vigilante kill onto that person. Kenny shall forge a last will for that person with a phrase that you may choose.

I'm sorry that I'm not giving you as much information as you had asked. We do not want to have the mafia floundering about if the town decides to lynch one of us. I hope you understand.

[Coffee]

Okay. I'm going to give you one more chance to comply with me, or I'm going to see you lynched tomorrow.

How does that play into your whole survival strategy?

[Mr. Hat]

And for your request for copy pasting EVERY SINGLE post from the differing chats? The main lover chat thread is 15 pages long with 50 posts per page. That would be a colossal effort on my part to edit out what I want hidden. I will give you the mafia chats. What we have in the Lover chat is a mix of non-game stuff a long with various musings on our part on differing people.

[Mr. Hat]

Okay. I'm going to give you one more chance to comply with me, or I'm going to see you lynched tomorrow.

How does that play into your whole survival strategy?

You will see that role killed in the night by a vigilante. If I am who I claim I am, I can make that happen, regardless of what role you choose for me to bump off. Don't suggest killing a GF, though. Kenny and I don't want to merge

[Mr. Hat]

And I forgot to mention that we actually don't know who the smurf is. We have a good idea of who it is but the Jets GF has been mistrusting his teammates enough to use WIFOM on them.

[Coffee]

And for your request for copy pasting EVERY SINGLE post from the differing chats? The main lover chat thread is 15 pages long with 50 posts per page. That would be a colossal effort on my part to edit out what I want hidden. I will give you the mafia chats. What we have in the Lover chat is a mix of non-game stuff a long with various musings on our part on differing people.

Yes. That is what I'm asking. And if you want me to take your claim seriously, you're going to do just that. Let's start with the mafia chats, though. Progress is good.

[Mr. Hat]

I will work on it. I'm sorry but my family is forcing me to play scrabble. I will get the chats to you asap.

[Coffee]

Furthermore, I would definitely recommend you rethink your stance. You'll never know if the town is keeping their word because you will never be attacked. And if you are and you aren't protected, you lose period. Mafia dead before the merge do not win with the mafia. As long as you cooperate, I can find you some protection personally. But I'm not going to be able to do that if I have to constantly micromanage you in my night chat, savvy?

[Token]

This does not prove your cooperation, at all. Lovers aren't necessarily anti-mafia and you could be aiding them right now. Hell you could be godfathers coached by cooperative lovers. You could get blocked while driving, by your own consorts

No.

Give us something that proves your disloyalty to mafia. Something that, at least if not condemns them, at least puts them in a disadvantage.
At the moment missing consort actions look suspicious and aren't helping you prove you're legit.

I'm gonna die tonight so I will make this count. If our cooperation ends at this I suggest Coffee pursues a lynch on the lovers tomorrow. You niggas look shady as shit son.

[Token]

Make sure to let us know what information Consigs brought back

[Mr. Hat]

Just got back. Timmy died before giving any info. The Jets consigliere target, Jimmy, was given the message of amnesiac/student/ghost.

[Coffee]

I'd also like to remind you it is because of the town that your lover Kenny will even survive the night. If we hadn't broken the witch, she would be pretty much dead.

[Token]

start posting up chats, then.

A neutral not aligned with town won't claim to us, either. Not good enough in my book.
Since we ended up sharing a chat with a person we can't completely trust, I will hold off sharing my thought process until they cut their ties with mafia. Lovers winning with mafia is perfectly fine and asking us to decide a night target for a swap is yet another letdown. Obviously you shall swap it with your mafia, or you have officially lied and are spying on our shit.

[Mr. Hat]

I am asking you so that you will have no doubt that I can do what I promise.

[Token]

I am sorry for doubting you if your motives are true - however I find that you contradict yourself a bit and a gambit involving lovers coaching, say godfathers (or at least one), would really pay off for a mafia-lover alliance.
I need to cover all bases. I will however do my absolute best to help you win up to the extent of compromising my own win condition, of course. You will have my verbal support, and my vote will never go against you as long as I live - if only you can prove you are siding with town on this.
If you lied, the gambit is worth it - you probably directed a bunch of power role actions where you want them, and killing you might not at all be punishing to mafia - say one godfather and a puppet or disguiser and a puppet are doing the job.

[Mr. Hat]

Let me get the jets night 1 chats, then I will work on the day 1 chats

[Mr. Hat]

Oh, Token, where have I or Kenny contradicted ourselves? I am merely curious. I will not defend anything that you say at all. If I do you may call scum on me and have me lynched.

[Token]

contradiction 1:
not afraid of consort
contradiction 2:
our mafia wants to kill us - so we side with town to eliminate mafia while not sharing any info that condemns said mafia.

pretty much that.

Although I agree you should keep some of the info to yourselves - in case town would lynch you tomorrow for benefits such as lesser KPN

[Mr. Hat]

OK.
*nods*

[Coffee]

Pretty interesting stuff. It's more than a little odd that the most obvious tells are the people who are already dead, though. It kinda feels like you've done more than edit out names.

I'll reserve my judgment until I see it all, but I still think it would be wise to give me three mafia tonight. Two for a double lynch and another for the vigi shot the next night.

If you really don't trust me to save you from a lynch, that is.

[Token]

feel free to address the Consort question, btw.
They should be able to block you

[Mr. Hat]

Oh the consorts? Mafia are not allowed to target other mafia with those sort of effects.

Coffee, I want to absolutely have the town's support before I do something like that. There are people who I know are town but are asking for our deaths. The moment all our information is given to the town, we are useless to them (basically).

[Mr. Hat]

And yes, there are things I edited out that would condemn certain people if those things were known.

[Coffee]

I really don't think you understand. If you give me nothing, they're going to take the convenient lynch(you). Not only that, but you're giving the mafias another day to kill. Who knows, they might hit the jailor, or the person protecting you. Time is kind of not on our side here. I can take out 5 of the remaining 6 mafia in one cycle, with the last mafia left for the next day. I can end this entire game on Day 5. Just fucking cooperate with me, please.

[Coffee]

And by Day 5 I mean Day 4

[Mr. Hat]

I'm giving you quite a lot, actually. You may want to read up on the day 1 chats again. Just do not have the town lynch either GF until last. I'm trying to find a workaround to something that's been bothering me for a (RL) day or two now.

[Mr. Hat]

I need to get some sleep tonight. I hope that you realize what I am saying and take action. G'night.

[Coffee]

Dust, seriously. Fucking lay off with the "dude i'm totally being helpful" routine. You are asking for my help. Not the other way around. If I have to, I will win this game without you. It is in your best interest to give me all of the information you have so that I can draw up plans in order to not only keep you alive but also eliminate the rest of the mafia as quickly as humanly possible.

Two vigi kills tonight, two lynches tomorrow, another two vigi kills tomorrow night on the last two remaining mafia. You expose yourself to two nights of attacks, both under my careful guidance. You can only be attacked from one mafia. There are plenty of targets to go for. The less time you expose yourself to being attacked the less chance of you losing.

Please talk it over with Sumikoko, I know you think you're making the right decision but the rest of the town isn't quite as caring as I am.

[Coffee]

P.S. Note in this plan that the only day you're exposed to being lynched by the town is tomorrow, which I can pardon you from.

[Mr. Hat]

I am not allowed to tell you the names of the mafia. FT will neither confirm nor deny this. You may believe me or disbelieve me. I am under the threat of modkill if one mention of the mafia's names appears in these chats. I am telling you the absolute truth.

[Mr. Hat]

I have been alerted by Kenny that the Jets GF indeed has made contact with one of the Sharks. They have given each others names and have this plan.

You were right when you said I'd made contact with the Sharks. I have, and given the knowledge that you need to kill me before I wipe out the town's protective roles, I know where your attention is.

You see you've created this inevitable situation for yourselves where you need to be switched with somebody, Kenny, or else the vigilante will shoot you dead tonight. However, if you swap yourself with a townie and that townie dies, then the town will lynch you for the betrayal. In the end, you know you have to switch yourself with one of the mafias.

But this pushes us into a corner you see, and I refuse to allow us to be picked off one by one. I am waiting for the Shark's reply, but the truth is they have no choice but to comply.

I have created this game of roulette.

I will kill one of the Sharks tonight, and the Sharks will kill one of us in return. Kill targets are based on the following stats, whereby names will literally be dropped in a hat and drawn out.

They are as follows:
[Jets GF]. 50%
[Jets 1]. 25%.
[Jets 2]. 25%

The Shark's stats are slightly different and are divided equally between the three of them, given the likelihood of [Sharks 2] dying in the coming days, anyhow. Hence, theirs are 33%, 33% and 33%.

Eg. There will be 9 cards in my hat. 3 of each name. I will withdraw one and if say it says [Sharks GF], then I will kill [Sharks GF]. If you happen to have been swapped with [Sharks GF], then...

Badluck, you and Mr. Hat die.

I don't want to die anymore than you, but I will not lay down and be shot.

Enjoy my game.

[Mr. Hat]

I will now work on copy pasting the night chats

[Coffee]

You are absolutely FORBIDDEN to explicitly reveal your mafia in day chat.

Do you think I am dumb?

[Coffee]

Look mate, you're gonna have to tell me who your mafia are now. I need to know who I'm dealing with and I need to know who the targets will be before I advise you on what to do.

[Mr. Hat]

Do you think I am dumb?

No. FT wants this to be a good game so he forbid us to give out the names of the mafia once we claimed. We had a long discussion. He was dissuading us but we had done what we had done so we are going through with it even if we cannot tell the names.

[Token]

if mafia will be eliminating each other, its not very smart. you have 33% to get shot am i right? if they aren't bluffing. They can also take themselves out if they are telling the truth.
We could decide for a non-mafia to swap with, and have Al back you up, if we decide upon said person. Or just not swap Kenny.
I'd need to know better if they really will shoot, though. I have a feeling they are bluffing.
if they are we can use it against them, anyway. do not despair

[Mr. Hat]

And we're not allowed to say the names in a last will that Kenny would forge.

[Mr. Hat]

The vigilante is planning on shooting Kenny, though. I think that switching her with Jimmy would be best as he is a neutral.

[Coffee]

No. FT wants this to be a good game so he forbid us to give out the names of the mafia once we claimed. We had a long discussion. He was dissuading us but we had done what we had done so we are going through with it even if we cannot tell the names.

Oh so it's more of his unstated rules. How wonderful. Well, I have half a mind to tell him to shove off and to tell me anyway and that I will deal with the fallout but god knows if he'd actually listen to me. I'll talk to him when he gets up.

[Token]

oh and, I'm advising a non-swap only because we dont have a 100% certainty on vig. If i were vig i would have contacted al already.

[Mr. Hat]

Token, I am not on the list of names for them to attack

[Mr. Hat]

I will not leave our lives in the hands of a vigilante who is probably not the sharpest tool in the shed

[Mr. Hat]

I have warned Jimmy for him to not choose mafia if he is a student or an amnesiac. I have also asked him to say a code phrase (kindly) in one of his posts if he is a ghost so that I can make sure that the mafia kill him. He didn't say it.

[Mr. Hat]

I warned him during the day

[Token]

alrighty
False created a very mathematically plausible situation for mafia.
Even if we lynch every day scum too powerful son.

[Coffee]

As far as I can tell, Butters is a jets drug dealer.

If this is true, don't respond to this post.

I also have an inkling that the disguiser may be Tweek though the pieces don't quite fit. Need to read more.

[Mr. Hat]

alrighty
False created a very mathematically plausible situation for mafia.
Even if we lynch every day scum too powerful son.

Unless you can figure out who they are by the chats and relay that information to the town.

[Coffee]

Why did you discourage a double lynch?