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    Repick Train Issue

    Background

    The lowered repick requirement implemented recently has led to an issue of endless repicking, which often leads to players leaving en masse as no consensus can be built.
    See attached replays for example.

    In any given lobby, there is a mix of setup preferences:
    * Those who like Cult saves
    * Those who like Chaos mode
    * Those who like Standard setups (933, 8331)
    * Those who like semi-Standard setups (82221)
    * Those who like certain roles and have those as confirmed slots in the game (e.g. Constable vs DF, Judge vs Crier)
    * Those with setups that were haphazardly put together without any consideration / knowledge of balance or game mechanics (i.e. "shit saves")

    This is not counting individual role settings like exact role Investigator, unlimited execution Jailor, 99% Judge, etc, which cannot be seen from the setup screen.

    Previously, due to higher repick requirement, usually a handful of players in every round will have to compromise.
    E.g. Cult lovers who don't get to play a cult save, or Standard lovers who don't get a standard save

    Now, due to lower repick requirement, even a minority of players have the power to repick the setup.
    E.g. A minority of cult + A minority of non-standard lovers have the ability to repick a 933 save

    This leads to endless repicking, which in turn often leads to a complete lobby meltdown. Leave training ensues.

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    Solution

    In any given group of people, it is rare to achieve 100% consensus on anything.
    While it is important that different voices are heard, at the end of the day, only 1 path of action can be taken.
    And in this case, the outcome is mutually exclusive (e.g. a lobby cannot play BOTH a Cult save AND a standard 933 at the same time).

    Currently I see two possible solutions to this:

    #1: Revert repick requirement back to original
    Majority wins, minorities conform.

    #2: After X number of repicks, lock-in to Standard 933 / 8331 with no further repicks possible
    Everyone has enough decision-making power to influence the setup, but if no consensus is reached, default to standard.


    Does anyone else see the repick-leavetrains as a problem, and/or have any other solutions?
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    Last edited by Exeter350; January 31st, 2022 at 08:57 PM.


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