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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Starting an hour early cause FUCK IT

    Day 2


    Kevin has perished in flames. He was a Citizen


    Spoiler : Story :


    Spoiler : Kevin's Last Will :



    Role List:

    Arsonist
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Douse checker


    Players:

    Mallow
    Stealth "day 2 lynch" Bomber
    Pringles
    Mushroom Man
    Vacuum
    Costco

    Graveyard:

    Kevin - Citizen


    Day 2 will end at 5 PM MDT on 3/27/2020 (25 hours)

    With 6 players alive it takes 4 votes to hammer.

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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Sure, let's start as to why Kovath was #1 doused & #2 ignited immediately.
    Well, I'm not too sure I have the answer to that.
    The only thing I can think of is that if the Douse Checker had checked him, it would have cleared him and immediately put him in confirmed town along with the douse checker and that allows the town pool to be narrowed.

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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Well, I'm not too sure I have the answer to that.
    The only thing I can think of is that if the Douse Checker had checked him, it would have cleared him and immediately put him in confirmed town along with the douse checker and that allows the town pool to be narrowed.
    That was literally my proposed plan. That you opposed. :/
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    That was literally my proposed plan. That you opposed. :/
    And I am still opposed to it. Again, if by chance the Douse Checker cleared Kovath, that means to them they're able to clear two people (themselves and Kovath). 'Breadcrumbing' as the Marshall put it is the better way to go here I think

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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad
    Desperately is definitely an overstatement. But okay, as you wish.
    This is a fairly big hint that you are the scummy and not Frinkles, I thought about this for awhile and it just does not sit well with me as to why you would say this as a response.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad
    In my opinion, town benefits the most from a lynch. Ideally there would have been more conversation today but you have to remember that the Arsonist had the first move last night.
    So you ignited to prove your point, I don't think you were planning on this but wanted to hammer it home to all of us, a nice bread crumb trail. You could tell at the EOD1 that you were disappointed with no lynch (in all likelihood you wanted a lynch so you had less dousing to do while eliminating a prime townie)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kovath
    I don't really like Toad from my skim of D1 but given how little was said (my fault), I doubt that's much to go on
    Quote Originally Posted by Toad
    Why? What don't you like?
    Immidiately concerned about what Kovath noticed in your patterns, that in itself is a red flag with how you reacted in such an alarmed manner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad
    So the arsonist decided to kill instead of douse someone else. Interesting.
    This proves your point in the last statement; you wanted a lynch to further your cause at EOD1, so since you didn't get it you made a example of a prime townie (Kovath). It is in my opinion that any other doused town member at the time would have had the same fate as Kovath, just to prove that Toad's theory was correct.

    With all that being said
    -vote Toad


    Hopefully someone else follows this train of thought.

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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    This is a fairly big hint that you are the scummy and not Frinkles, I thought about this for awhile and it just does not sit well with me as to why you would say this as a response.



    So you ignited to prove your point, I don't think you were planning on this but wanted to hammer it home to all of us, a nice bread crumb trail. You could tell at the EOD1 that you were disappointed with no lynch (in all likelihood you wanted a lynch so you had less dousing to do while eliminating a prime townie)

    This is arguably the stupidest explanation I have ever seen in my life. How much more can you pull out of your ass? Seems you have a lot of storage room up there.

    1. You had said I was desperately pushing for a lynch. Desperately was definitely not the case. Which is why I would make a statement as such. It was to correct you.
    2. To say that this would make me more scummy that Frinckles implies that the only options you are considering right now is Frinckles and I.

    - So sorry you didn't like being corrected, but unfortunately there are as well more than Frinckles and I in the game.

    3. Ignited to prove my point? I had just previously stated why I believed the Arsonist ignited. This is what I said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Well, I'm not too sure I have the answer to that.
    The only thing I can think of is that if the Douse Checker had checked him, it would have cleared him and immediately put him in confirmed town along with the douse checker and that allows the town pool to be narrowed.
    This was a strategy suggest by Frinckles that I opposed, so if I had a point to prove from what I was suggesting I would have doused.

    - Another thing you inaccurately represent


    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    Immidiately concerned about what Kovath noticed in your patterns, that in itself is a red flag with how you reacted in such an alarmed manner.



    This proves your point in the last statement; you wanted a lynch to further your cause at EOD1, so since you didn't get it you made a example of a prime townie (Kovath). It is in my opinion that any other doused town member at the time would have had the same fate as Kovath, just to prove that Toad's theory was correct.

    With all that being said
    -vote Toad


    Hopefully someone else follows this train of thought.
    LOL, I don't even believe this warrants a long explanation. You're grasping at loose strings.

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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    This is arguably the stupidest explanation I have ever seen in my life. How much more can you pull out of your ass? Seems you have a lot of storage room up there.

    1. You had said I was desperately pushing for a lynch. Desperately was definitely not the case. Which is why I would make a statement as such. It was to correct you.
    2. To say that this would make me more scummy that Frinckles implies that the only options you are considering right now is Frinckles and I.

    - So sorry you didn't like being corrected, but unfortunately there are as well more than Frinckles and I in the game.

    3. Ignited to prove my point? I had just previously stated why I believed the Arsonist ignited. This is what I said:


    This was a strategy suggest by Frinckles that I opposed, so if I had a point to prove from what I was suggesting I would have doused.

    - Another thing you inaccurately represent




    LOL, I don't even believe this warrants a long explanation. You're grasping at loose strings.
    I dont see an issue with Varcrons logic overall. You did perfectly lay out the goals that my plan sought to achieve as a reaction to me asking a question. It's only particularly weird because you gave a much more direct response to it as opposed to yesterday when it was brought up.

    Still, I dont understand why you would ignite a doused target that you voted for. As Arsonist I'd assume youd aim a mislynch outside of your douse.
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad
    This was a strategy suggest by Frinckles that I opposed, so if I had a point to prove from what I was suggesting I would have doused.

    - Another thing you inaccurately represent
    I wasn't even using this, but okay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad
    1. You had said I was desperately pushing for a lynch. Desperately was definitely not the case. Which is why I would make a statement as such. It was to correct you.
    2. To say that this would make me more scummy that Frinckles implies that the only options you are considering right now is Frinckles and I.

    - So sorry you didn't like being corrected, but unfortunately there are as well more than Frinckles and I in the game.

    3. Ignited to prove my point? I had just previously stated why I believed the Arsonist ignited.
    You're right, you weren't desperate, but you *pushed* for it, you wanted one anyways to push your own agenda. On your next point, I was comparing you and Frinkles to see which one fell out of line, and in this current position it seems to be you and not him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad
    This is arguably the stupidest explanation I have ever seen in my life. How much more can you pull out of your ass? Seems you have a lot of storage room up there.
    This entire line is irrelevant other than to gaslight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Are you self admitting to planning something or being framed here? I'm not sure I understand that.
    I'm implying that I am someone who likes to use logic. If I was the Arsonist I would try to win, not try and have Kovath dead because apparently I have a hard-on for him. Which is what Varcron's theory mostly suggests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I dont see an issue with Varcrons logic overall. You did perfectly lay out the goals that my plan sought to achieve as a reaction to me asking a question. It's only particularly weird because you gave a much more direct response to it as opposed to yesterday when it was brought up.

    Still, I dont understand why you would ignite a doused target that you voted for. As Arsonist I'd assume youd aim a mislynch outside of your douse.
    I could understand why, it would make town more urgent assuming that arso had doused two people, going on three.

    Basically what I'm saying is that as a whole we would be much more urgent to catch arso two or three dousees than with just one.

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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    I'm implying that I am someone who likes to use logic. If I was the Arsonist I would try to win, not try and have Kovath dead because apparently I have a hard-on for him. Which is what Varcron's theory mostly suggests.
    No, my theory suggests that you want to act like the good guy and lynch a douse target so you don't instill panic. As a whole the town will be; as I said before, a lot less worried with only one doused target compared to two, three, four, or five doused targets.

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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    I'm implying that I am someone who likes to use logic. If I was the Arsonist I would try to win, not try and have Kovath dead because apparently I have a hard-on for him. Which is what Varcron's theory mostly suggests.
    I don't see any correlation between you and Kovath from Varcrons POV outside of your vote on him. I think what he's getting at is the rhetoric you used in that quote seems like an openly wolf thing to say, which it could be.
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    Re: S-FM 296 Simple Arsonist II

    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    No, my theory suggests that you want to act like the good guy and lynch a douse target so you don't instill panic. As a whole the town will be; as I said before, a lot less worried with only one doused target compared to two, three, four, or five doused targets.
    It should always be an urgency to catch the Arsonist. Regardless of how many douses they are in. lol

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