S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

[Light_Yagami]

You Know Before I Was Forced To Retire.. I Was A Great Hunter Of Mythical Beasts Such As Vampires, Werewolves, Witches And Such.. The Bastards That Won The Battle Took In Their Eyes Mercy On Me.. And Said My Punishment Was To Never Leave Town.. Oh Had I Known Then What I Know Now..

[Damus_Graves]

You Know Before I Was Forced To Retire.. I Was A Great Hunter Of Mythical Beasts Such As Vampires, Werewolves, Witches And Such.. The Bastards That Won The Battle Took In Their Eyes Mercy On Me.. And Said My Punishment Was To Never Leave Town.. Oh Had I Known Then What I Know Now..

D..sorry... do you think y..you would want to leave town som..ehow? Is.. that possible for you..?

[Light_Yagami]

D..sorry... do you think y..you would want to leave town som..ehow? Is.. that possible for you..?

Unfortunately, I Can Never Leave This Town Now.. Lucky I One Of The Richest PPL Here Because, I Demanded My Payment Up Front.. From My Client 20 Years Ago..

[Eclipse]

Quick feels, will update myself later

This is based on skim, interaction and a bit of sniff

A bit creepy

Damus
Efe

Coolio group:

Kenny
Light

Dunno:

Stealth
Ganelon

[Redacter]:

Lawyer

No feels whatsoever


Bahkieh
Banshis


Bravado:

MM
Yap

Town (for now):

Mike

[Eclipse]

Mike offers strong townie vibes, he's transparent, open and willing to collaborate, cooperate and be used as a tool for town

Nobody so far has had this sort of desire to show themselves as Mikey did

I'm vetoing any votes on him

Rest will be sorted when I look over previous posts again, there's a lot of details to take in, most of players have told their stories, there wasn't anything concrete that would point to a scummy player

Beware those in creepy group and those in bravado, I'm slightly thinking there's at least 1 scumbo in these 2 groups

[Yayap]

Eclipse + Ganelon both buddy Mike noted. Can't wait till one of the mike supporters claims a wonderful night convo with mike tomorrow.

[Damus_Graves]

Eclipse + Ganelon both buddy Mike noted. Can't wait till one of the mike supporters claims a wonderful night convo with mike tomorrow.

i...im not sure..... im not sure that... if mike were actually a scum....that..they woul..they would be so invested.... in this pla...y to put both of them at risk..who...whoever is the person..that says mike...made an network chat...with them ....

Its.. a little early..for that i think..? I ...just think that...this post...has a bad tone...behind it..

[Kenny]

i...im not sure..... im not sure that... if mike were actually a scum....that..they woul..they would be so invested.... in this pla...y to put both of them at risk..who...whoever is the person..that says mike...made an network chat...with them ....

Its.. a little early..for that i think..? I ...just think that...this post...has a bad tone...behind it..

Come on this is getting harder to read than light yagami

[Damus_Graves]

sorry....

[Damus_Graves]

i can do better..

[Light_Yagami]

i...im not sure..... im not sure that... if mike were actually a scum....that..they woul..they would be so invested.... in this pla...y to put both of them at risk..who...whoever is the person..that says mike...made an network chat...with them ....

Its.. a little early..for that i think..? I ...just think that...this post...has a bad tone...behind it..

Its Not That Bad... I Know You Prob Got Your Brains Scrambled By Some Evil Witch.. Or You Are Just Old..

[Stealthbomber16]

Well, I feel like day 1 and day 2 will be very similar information wise. And all will become clear day 3 when the graveyard shows up. I see people claiming PRs left right and center or I should say Past Present and Future with no real reason to claim other than to paint targets for night actions, nothing is credible until later.

Based on the RP, I wonder if a mafia from past can change alliances to become a mafia in present considering they are polar opposites RP wise. I would think not, but I'm not ready to discount that possibility. That being said, any neutrals in the setup can't win with other factions so it limits them to neutral killers and maybe witch (role, not rp). I guess we'll find out in day 2 how many night kills there are.

This caught my eye and I had to think about it for a sec.

What roles are uncommon to be scum? We've come accustom to most roles having a evil counterpart. The few roles that are almost always town are Doctors.
As for scum roles being town - the list is much more extensive for possibilities. Framer, Actor, Janitor, etc..

Efekannn02 claims/strong hint as doc seems to be an odd claim until you consider that doc could be scum in the past reality. Might consider this more as the day progresses. I wonder what other people will have to say about it. Efe, you are my information bait for 20 years ago, have fun.

I can see a Mike/Ganelon team in one of the realities, can't remember which one, think it was present - which ever one ganelon said he lived on mikes property or something like that, whatever, he used his RP to support his own.

By uncommon roles, I'm choosing to think of less traditional roles from the compendium that you normally don't see. Electromaniac comes to mind immediately, but that may have been more common in the past. A quick scan also makes me see Magician, Chairman, Shaman, Toxicologist, or even a mass murderer. These are roles that are considered standard enough to be registered in a database but don't see usage frequently because they're clunky or hard to make work. What better time to make them work than a game that's actually two games? That's half the chance that the game goes wrong!

Aside: I do not like damus and yagami's interactions. My gut is telling me something is wrong. I'll stick on Efe for now but I want to revisit them later. And this time, I might actually do it!

[Yayap]

I'm intentionally not commenting on Damus' play today. I'm curious to see what he'll do if he can't get a read on how I read him.

[Light_Yagami]

I'm intentionally not commenting on Damus' play today. I'm curious to see what he'll do if he can't get a read on how I read him.

Yeah, I Might Have A Lead.. DG Is Prob Witch Id Like To See Some Extra Pressure There..

[Banshis]

Just a greetings post. I'll be able to actually comment tomorrow after class when I actually have the time/energy. Pretty busy atm.
If u wanna ask me anything I'll get to them tomorrow.

[Yayap]

For the one day that I had free, there hasn't been much development - I guess you all want to argue when I'm gone to work in the next rl days.

[Mike]

Eclipse + Ganelon both buddy Mike noted. Can't wait till one of the mike supporters claims a wonderful night convo with mike tomorrow.

I am not taking you into night chat as I am scum reading you.

[Bahkieh]

Whats this, another game where Damus is scum?!? WHAT A TWIST!!

[Yayap]

I am not taking you into night chat as I am scum reading you.

I don't expect nor want to be in a chat with you - I'm waiting to see who backs up your story so I can scum read them also.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Kenny is way too pure this reality

I'm not touching him

Care to elaborate? This looks like buddying without explainations. I have an eye on you, slinky.

What do you think about Damus?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Well, I feel like day 1 and day 2 will be very similar information wise. And all will become clear day 3 when the graveyard shows up. I see people claiming PRs left right and center or I should say Past Present and Future with no real reason to claim other than to paint targets for night actions, nothing is credible until later.

Based on the RP, I wonder if a mafia from past can change alliances to become a mafia in present considering they are polar opposites RP wise. I would think not, but I'm not ready to discount that possibility. That being said, any neutrals in the setup can't win with other factions so it limits them to neutral killers and maybe witch (role, not rp). I guess we'll find out in day 2 how many night kills there are.

This caught my eye and I had to think about it for a sec.

What roles are uncommon to be scum? We've come accustom to most roles having a evil counterpart. The few roles that are almost always town are Doctors.
As for scum roles being town - the list is much more extensive for possibilities. Framer, Actor, Janitor, etc..

Efekannn02 claims/strong hint as doc seems to be an odd claim until you consider that doc could be scum in the past reality. Might consider this more as the day progresses. I wonder what other people will have to say about it. Efe, you are my information bait for 20 years ago, have fun.

I can see a Mike/Ganelon team in one of the realities, can't remember which one, think it was present - which ever one ganelon said he lived on mikes property or something like that, whatever, he used his RP to support his own.

We should try to get the most info we can get before the convergence, though. I'm not a fan of that PR hinting bullshit.....

I was going to say it was specified in the setup that it was wrong, but actually... Only roles that make others change alignments are not there, meaning that's a possiblity?

Architect is one... so I really don't like Mike's claim, especially with his veteran hints, it's more confusing than anything.

Doctor scum lol? that would be pretty useless...

I agree with the Mike/@Ganelon theory btw. Mag, what do you have to say about this?

[Yayap]

Right now, I'm watching everyone slip which reality they prefer, I think it's rather telling how they may vote on day 3. The question I have to resolve is which of the realities will be better for town as a whole. It's quite obvious that some people have already starting playing for a single reality and have discarded the other, some going as far as saying they don't mind being lynched in a certain reality, which is very anti-town thinking.

If a mafia team start losing members early in one reality, I'm betting that that reality team will vote to play the other reality, with a n0 chat, maybe a team of mafia have already decided which reality they want to play and don't care about being exposed in one of them. Will be interesting to see what comes up before eod2

[Efekannn02]

Come on this is getting harder to read than light yagami

Out Of Character Efekannn02: You have triggered me.

MaYbE I aM gOnNa TaLk LiKe ThIs NoW HaHaHa.

[Efekannn02]

I prefer Panther over Distorted sooooo uhm gimme the past please

[Ganelon]

just why would I basically start open wolfing with Mike like that if we were both scum in one reality? I genuinely have no idea what Yayap is talking about. Why would scum give up in one reality just because they're town in the other? People have to vote for the reality that they prefer, and it seems to me that a reality with no scum easily trumps one with scum. if anything, the scum are more pressed than we are to ensure that they survive.

[Ganelon]

also, note that due to the wording of my rolecard I strongly suspect that some sort of weird killing role is present in the game.

[Kenny]

just why would I basically start open wolfing with Mike like that if we were both scum in one reality? I genuinely have no idea what Yayap is talking about. Why would scum give up in one reality just because they're town in the other? People have to vote for the reality that they prefer, and it seems to me that a reality with no scum easily trumps one with scum. if anything, the scum are more pressed than we are to ensure that they survive.

Well then please explain what made you believe the other reality has less scum than this one.
The second part of what I marked is also exactly what YipYap said.

[Kenny]

just why would I basically start open wolfing with Mike like that if we were both scum in one reality? I genuinely have no idea what Yayap is talking about. Why would scum give up in one reality just because they're town in the other? People have to vote for the reality that they prefer, and it seems to me that a reality with no scum easily trumps one with scum. if anything, the scum are more pressed than we are to ensure that they survive.

Well then please explain what made you believe the other reality has less scum than this one.
The second part of what I marked is also exactly what YipYap said.

[Ganelon]

Well then please explain what made you believe the other reality has less scum than this one.
The second part of what I marked is also exactly what YipYap said.

I didn't say there were less scum. I prefer the other reality because of my role.

[Kenny]

I didn't say there were less scum. I prefer the other reality because of my role.

"a reality with no scum easily trumps one with scum" is what you said. What did you mean by that?

[Ganelon]

"a reality with no scum easily trumps one with scum" is what you said. What did you mean by that?

the scum won't give up in one reality just because they are town in the other. living people have two votes, dead people have one (or zero, if they're dead in both realities). if the scum get lynched in one reality people will obviously be voting for it at the Convergence

[Yayap]

the scum won't give up in one reality just because they are town in the other. living people have two votes, dead people have one (or zero, if they're dead in both realities). if the scum get lynched in one reality people will obviously be voting for it at the Convergence

Yes, but town won't know that we lynched scum because hidden graveyard. Keep digging.

[Kenny]

the scum won't give up in one reality just because they are town in the other. living people have two votes, dead people have one (or zero, if they're dead in both realities). if the scum get lynched in one reality people will obviously be voting for it at the Convergence

Roles aren't revealed.

[Ganelon]

oh right... forgot about that mechanic. lol
@Auckmid what happens if the scum get lynched in one reality prior to the convergence?

[Kenny]

oh right... forgot about that mechanic. lol
@Auckmid what happens if the scum get lynched in one reality prior to the convergence?

This is what's written in the info post:
"1. Prior to the convergence, roles and cause of death are omitted for dead players.

2. Post convergence, roles and exact cause of death are revealed for dead players, including for players who had died prior to the convergence."

What difference would you expect to happen in case of a scum lynch?

[Yayap]

There is a minimum of 2 mafia in each reality. I'd assume that at least 1 hidden any is not town in each so game would not end after day 2, if that is what you want to know Gan... Seems like an easy question to answer without having to ask Auckmid, one that I expect you already knew the answer to - so now you look like you are trying to dig yourself out of a hole you dug in your previous posts but are just going deeper.

[Kenny]

There is a minimum of 2 mafia in each reality. I'd assume that at least 1 hidden any is not town in each so game would not end after day 2, if that is what you want to know Gan... Seems like an easy question to answer without having to ask Auckmid, one that I expect you already knew the answer to - so now you look like you are trying to dig yourself out of a hole you dug in your previous posts but are just going deeper.

oh right... forgot about that mechanic. lol
@Auckmid what happens if the scum get lynched in one reality prior to the convergence?

Don't forget, including yourself, we also already had like 3 or 4 tpr claims in that other reality.

[Ganelon]

Don't forget, including yourself, we also already had like 3 or 4 tpr claims in that other reality.

sweet. let the TPR wars begin

[Kenny]

sweet. let the TPR wars begin

-vote Ganelon

The quote is from the other reality, content is clearly about this one however, to clarify. Ganelon claimed to like this reality more because of his role, 3 more people followed, he then tried suggesting we could have a low enough number of scum to end the game early here, and then this response to me noting out the number of tpr claims here.
I believe a town-aligned would not find this situation sweet at all. It's open-wolfing, and it also is what Mag often does as scum.

[Kenny]

-vote Ganelon

The quote is from the other reality, content is clearly about this one however, to clarify. Ganelon claimed to like this reality more because of his role, 3 more people followed, he then tried suggesting we could have a low enough number of scum to end the game early here, and then this response to me noting out the number of tpr claims here.
I believe a town-aligned would not find this situation sweet at all. It's open-wolfing, and it also is what Mag often does as scum.

-vote Efekannn02

I swear I had this posted in the other thread, what the hell

[Damus_Graves]

oh right... forgot about that mechanic. lol
@Auckmid what happens if the scum get lynched in one reality prior to the convergence?

I... I don’t...really know what you are trying to accomplish here...
But it looks like this is faking ignorance ...for town points..

[Damus_Graves]

Yeah, I Might Have A Lead.. DG Is Prob Witch Id Like To See Some Extra Pressure There..

O...oh wow... I don’t really know what I’d do so that much power..

Whats this, another game where Damus is scum?!? WHAT A TWIST!!

I uh... I’m sorry... I don’t see where...

Where have you been this game... bahkieh... you aren’t present at all

[Yayap]

Seems like an easy question to answer without having to ask Auckmid, one that I expect you already knew the answer to - so now you look like you are trying to dig yourself out of a hole you dug in your previous posts but are just going deeper.

I... I don’t...really know what you are trying to accomplish here...
But it looks like this is faking ignorance ...for town points..

<Yayap glares at Damus>

...

[Damus_Graves]

<sorry>

...

[Yayap]

I see that taunt... time to pressure you into revealing that secret.

[Yayap]

-vote Damus_Graves

[Damus_Graves]

It...it says... sorry

[Eclipse]

someone pls tell me how to vote

I forgot

-vote Kenny

[Eclipse]

-unvote

?

[Eclipse]

okay I think that's it

I got this