I honestly can't even debate when you make posts like this. Your play was anything but strong this game and everyone realizes it but you. You a significant chunk of the Town to start the game (Kenshin, yourself, Mesk), you made yourself come off insanely scummy with your THREE role claims. You used threatened game-throwing as a tactic.
This is exactly Charmander all over again. The Town won DESPITE your play, not because of it. We never defended any of G4, Voss, or POD -- not sure what you're talking about there either.
Not to mention that MZ's hosting left much to be desired.
It does not take much effort to actually tell players that "your concerns will be taken into account after the game if there is an issue" or "friendly reminder that game-throwing is against the rules" or making any efforts at policing the game when a problematic element came up.
Instead he chose to ignore the issues, didn't make any attempts to reassure players or make it clear that he was acknowledging their concerns at all and only cares about the high post count of the game. This shows that he has little interest in making a game for other players to enjoy.
Instead of acknowledging that maybe his detractors have some valid gripes to be taken into consideration, he delays posting the post-game for several hours and dismisses everyone as being salty...despite the fact that almost everyone who has taken issue with the game ended up winning.
Longest game on this site still a consideration? Surely longest game with the shortest day?
I understand MattZed's philosophy on in-game issues, but it let to a significant amount of dissent among the playerbase, which was evident by Calix and I leaving the game, Paladin's dead post, and many other people being upset about the threatened gamethrows and POD's spamming (among others, Voss, Quick, etc.). It was not great PR and I hope MZ learns from this in the future. People don't have confidence when you don't let them know what's going on whatsoever and it looks like bad behavior is being sanctioned. Making announcements doesn't compromise the integrity of the game -- in fact, it keeps the game going and avoids players becoming disenchanted by in-game issues.
Agreed that 3 Drug Dealers meant that the FBI had a snowball's chance in hell of a conversion. That combined with only 2 groupscum helped contribute to the Town streamroll. I'm fine with a Tailor honestly -- it was how paralyzed certain Town members became with it that was the issue, which is more of a playstyle issue than a hosting issue.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
GG everyone! Thanks to Mattzed for hosting the game!
I believe that most* showed effort and commitment to the game, IMO most played well too. The real reason why we won here is because of scum's night actions though.
*minus shifty
-vote SexyDucK
Right because you scum reading me and Logically Insane for seeing your shit gambit as shit = stellar play
Lynching shifty = awesome play
Me having to convince you NOT to lynch Sino or Fatalis - both STRONG TOWN for you, over gaslight who was confirmed scum - spectacular!
Either way, you're dead to me after you tried to combine in game and out of game, rage removing me from Skype mid game for not being impressed with your gambit, and for spitting on our friendship when I have gone to bat for you and defended you so many times. Eat a dick, asshole.
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
RK was anything but confirmed Town -- his behavior was EXTREMELY scummy this game, even perhaps by his own admission. He was planning out lynches days in advance and scumreading a number of Town players including Kovath, us, and Shifty.
You hammered Unknown, irrationally read Sino as strong Town because he never questioned much of what you did (he was Town, but not strong Town), Fatalis wasn't particularly active this game, and you were ready to string up Kovath based on Shifty's lynch.
Midgame, you tunneled the fuck out of us and went on a tantrum with your threatened GTs, which caused two of us to leave the game. All over lynching the Town Tailor as well. The Town won IN SPITE of your play not because of it. This is Charmander all over again with your hero ball failing, but the Town winning because of the setup dynamics.
I scum read LI for trying to quick hammer me when I claimed consig/continuing to think of reasons to lynch us after confirmed. I also scum read him initially. I scum read you for inconsistent and suboptimal play.
I am content with the lynch on shifty, it was good.
You didnt convince me to not lynch sino or fatalis, they were my top 2 town and were never going to by lynched by me. Gyrlander told me g4slight was mafia on day 1, i had him null.
I never said my mafia circle was good, it was 3/6 by day2. My town circle was 5/5 and it was a good circle. The difference between our play was I was willing to reevaluate on players. It is okay to have wrong reads, but try to reevaluate...
Rk was confirmed town if you were thinking from a scum perspective
I hammered unknown as a joke since your slot claimed the hammer, he was dead either way. My posts clearly showed I had him as town. Sino's line of questioning was very good and deeper than say that of calix's. Fatalis was reading people and their intention and he was trying to look at logic from their point of view even when he didn't agree with it.
I was not ready to string up kovath based on shifty's lynch. My last will I posted specifically said "kovath will probably be the lynch today, my reads strongly go against this though"
Town won because of voss, I have never stated otherwise.
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
So how come we have 4 games going on at once before this game
But when its MZ's turn to host we only have 1, and halfway through only 2? Coincidence or naw?
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
-vote SuperJack
For not being one of the following people:
PLZLEAVEDICKK
MattZed
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
Also I think it would be nice if we made some sort of indicator that the host and/or mod has read up to a certain point to help players feel that host does care and is taking proper action. Like some sort of indicator by vote count or something. This Way Host doesn't ever have to confirm or deny the accusations.
Also I was Heth Ledger Joker
Some Scum Want To Lynch Their Respective Chats and anon Chat?
Here's Dead Chat
www.quicktopic.com/52/H/2r4Py9X79Mvq