S-FM 352: ★ Silent Night 2 ★

[Stellaria]

i can hear deb screaming at me from the great depths of the abyss for that joke

[Stellaria]

i guess i should go to bed too, it's already 3:44 am and I feel not great from yesterday


PS the fettucine alfredo at olive garden was mid

[Wiisp]

Nice well here is me not voting

[Wiisp]

this is why votes should be lock in lylo, what a meme

[Wiisp]

anyways that was a pretty uninformed progression from Stellar, and DK tmi'd me as town somewhere in those string of posts
so nothing has changed for me

[Wiisp]

ill do more once i get home from work, i dont particularly like doing mafia stuff in the morning

[Wiisp]

Back reading, it's a bit disingenuous of me to say they tmi'd me, I misread their post

The whole votes not being locked in definitely changes the dynamic of lylo, but I'm still holding my vote once I vote because I think that's the way lylo should be played

[Wiisp]

If I had woken up at anytime during the night I could have basically town locked myself

[Wiisp]

There is a post somewhere that Stellar had mine that I thought was really pure I need to find it

[Stellaria]

hi i just woke up

[Stellaria]

the gang's all here it seems

[Stellaria]

ikarus give me your best sales pitch as to why it is wisp

[Wiisp]

I'm not here, but it looks like I am always because of mobile, I'm at work for 3 more hours ish

[ikarusdk]

Well sorry stellaria I still think it is you.

But I did go over your ISO, and found nothing.

I'm on the phone atm so I don't really wanna go into details.
I still think MM death over me point you being the last wolf. You are right that w.wiisp could've intentionally did that to trap you instead.

But then there js this feeling that your progression last night till your vote on me felt very sudden, akin to DMs reaction to my pressure, except you were more or less reacting to wiisp doubling down on me because perhaps you realised it would be easier to convince wiisp to vote me instead. I don't think town stellaria would've found me more wolfy than wiisp even if you were covering all angles. I simply don't think town stellaria would change their mind that easily.

Also the bit I'm responding to.... give you the best sale pitch. I don't k on man haha as much as I hate not voting wiisp, I think he is the last town .

[Stellaria]

I want your best pitch anyway, give it to me even if you don't believe in it

[Stellaria]

sigh

[Stellaria]

I wanted to see if Ikarus was capable of actually considering Wisp today instead of just saying he was on him on paper and just turning on me because it's the easiest thing to do

If he was already questioning you Wisp then he'd have had a pitch readily available against you. The fact he isn't giving any (and that he's now gone) is telling

[Stellaria]

It seems he's sticking with the thunderdome. If we are both town then we've already lost anyway, but I'm fairly certain we've got our last wolf now

-vote ikarusdk

[Stellaria]

please dont be wisp please dont be wisp

[Wiisp]

I'm not voting

[Stellaria]

that's a good sign

[Stellaria]

I'm gonna leave my vote, Im feeling safe now

[ikarusdk]

I wanted to see if Ikarus was capable of actually considering Wisp today instead of just saying he was on him on paper and just turning on me because it's the easiest thing to do

If he was already questioning you Wisp then he'd have had a pitch readily available against you. The fact he isn't giving any (and that he's now gone) is telling

Sorry buddy, I'm just doing some work atm I'll be on to check the posts but I just can't compile everything against wiisp.

Also its not that it's the easy thing to do or lazy thing to turn on you.

I simply think nk and today's post history by you can only be explained by w stellaria.

[ikarusdk]

My scunread on wiisp was strong, but not as strong as my suspicion of day 6

[ikarusdk]

I'm not voting

Hmm don't think this is a trick so I'm feeling more confident.

-vote Stellaria

[ikarusdk]

Wiisp, I suggest you read my day 6 agaisnt stellaria again please before you make the decision

[Stellaria]

My scunread on wiisp was strong, but not as strong as my suspicion of day 6

I asked you to provide a case on Wisp, and you couldn't. Just how strong was your scumread on Wisp anyway? Because it seems fake.

[Wiisp]

I don't slow roll, that's gross, especially for this long, plus given that yall already unvoted once I would never take that chance just to meme on yall

[ikarusdk]

I asked you to provide a case on Wisp, and you couldn't. Just how strong was your scumread on Wisp anyway? Because it seems fake.

pretty strong. But that doesn't mean my views cannot change given evidence.

[ikarusdk]

well should i say suggested/revealing/supporting evidence

[Stellaria]

You can keep on saying that it's a strong scumread Ikarus. But your actions are continuously not backing that up. All you've been doing today is shading me. That's right, shading. You aren't even meaningfully interacting with me in terms of the game. You haven't cased me, and you continuously just say that you agree with everything I've said except for the parts that indicate that you're the last scum.

Like, fmpov it seems like you just looked at the entire page of me looking at the game and just said "yeah I aint reading all of that, it's all right except for the part where you're wrong". This is why I think it's lazy. For a supposed townie, you don't seem to be that agitated about me voting you, and honestly it doesn't seem like you care if Wisp votes you either. Just a "yeah I guess I don't mind it if town loses because you're a good wolf" doesn't make you seem townie.

[Stellaria]

You should not be asking me to case Wisp for you. You should be doing that yourself. And you should be casing me, too. That's called due dilligence, and every townie should be doing this in f3.

[ikarusdk]

You should not be asking me to case Wisp for you. You should be doing that yourself. And you should be casing me, too. That's called due dilligence, and every townie should be doing this in f3.

uhh i never asked you to case Wiisp.

And I've already cased on you several times. It's upto Wiisp to read them, and decide if he wants to stick with you or me.

I've done my due diligence fmpov. I've read all your iso, concluded that you just played your town game really well to a point I stick by my townread of you all game. But I simply cannot ignore the solve that I arrived today - what MM's death entails about Wiisp and you. On top of that, I am becoming more confident in my decision as the day progress because of several things. You wanted to appear that by asking me to case Wiisp - therefore appearing to be internally conflicted (as a town would in a difficult f3 situation), yet you voted me, risking a snipe from W!Wiisp. I just don't think that is what a town would do. Had your 'arrival to conclusion' that I was wolf, much more conviction than it appeared to have, I would be more inclined to think that you actually really think I am wolf as town. You keep asking me to case Wiisp and questioning my read on Wiisp. I feel this is an effort to further antagonize me from Wiisp.

As to why I am willing to change my pov about Wiisp - I'm simply admitting the fact that I could've been wrong about Wiisp, just the way people were right/wrong about people that had died.

[ikarusdk]

You can keep on saying that it's a strong scumread Ikarus. But your actions are continuously not backing that up. All you've been doing today is shading me. That's right, shading. You aren't even meaningfully interacting with me in terms of the game. You haven't cased me, and you continuously just say that you agree with everything I've said except for the parts that indicate that you're the last scum.

Like, fmpov it seems like you just looked at the entire page of me looking at the game and just said "yeah I aint reading all of that, it's all right except for the part where you're wrong". This is why I think it's lazy. For a supposed townie, you don't seem to be that agitated about me voting you, and honestly it doesn't seem like you care if Wisp votes you either. Just a "yeah I guess I don't mind it if town loses because you're a good wolf" doesn't make you seem townie.

You could read that as shade. But i hope that t!wiisp reads my thought progress early in the day when I was still unsure about between you and Wiisp - that is an honest development from town ika's pov, and why I kept insisting you could've been wolf, even if i didn't exactly know why.

Also, the key thing to take here for Wiisp.

If I was indeed wolf - I would've been fine just pushing Wiisp with Stellaria when Stellaria said it's probably Wiisp at SoD, and wouldn't have been that difficult for me to convince Stellaria to hammer Wiisp because we have been more or less pretty in synch all game.

However,

Why would I make it difficult for me to push Stellaria instead of Wiisp who was already having doubts about me? And this is all before (if i remember correctly), Wiisp said he still believes it is me. If that was the case, I would've just cased Wiisp and convinced Stellaria that I am indeed town (because stellaria kept poking me for reasons to change their vote).

I think all of these are pretty revealing evidence that I am town for Wiisp.

[Stellaria]

You could read that as shade. But i hope that t!wiisp reads my thought progress early in the day when I was still unsure about between you and Wiisp - that is an honest development from town ika's pov, and why I kept insisting you could've been wolf, even if i didn't exactly know why.

Also, the key thing to take here for Wiisp.

If I was indeed wolf - I would've been fine just pushing Wiisp with Stellaria when Stellaria said it's probably Wiisp at SoD, and wouldn't have been that difficult for me to convince Stellaria to hammer Wiisp because we have been more or less pretty in synch all game.

However,

Why would I make it difficult for me to push Stellaria instead of Wiisp who was already having doubts about me? And this is all before (if i remember correctly), Wiisp said he still believes it is me. If that was the case, I would've just cased Wiisp and convinced Stellaria that I am indeed town (because stellaria kept poking me for reasons to change their vote).

I think all of these are pretty revealing evidence that I am town for Wiisp.

It's a two-way street Ika. Why would I make it difficult for myself by pushing you instead of Wisp, who before today we were pretty much in agreement on being the last scum?

[ikarusdk]

I think i should ask. do you want me to referr you as he or she? Stellaria.

You can never be too careful these days.

[Stellaria]

I ask that you call me whichever pronouns you feel more comfortable calling me

if that makes sense, I know that sounds backwards

[ikarusdk]

I ask that you call me whichever pronouns you feel more comfortable calling me

if that makes sense, I know that sounds backwards

Okay, I am prettttttty traditional, but I didn't want to insult anyone by just assuming genders (because you know...ive been flakked before by calling an obvious 20 something yo woman, her before IRL.

[Stellaria]

(don't worry about offending me with pronouns)

[Stellaria]

:/

[ikarusdk]

It's a two-way street Ika. Why would I make it difficult for myself by pushing you instead of Wisp, who before today we were pretty much in agreement on being the last scum?

I know it is a two way street - that is why I won't blame Wiisp if he votes me because I can see how he would think why you arrived to that conclusion (well suspicion). It is up to him to decide now. I don't think I will change my view that you are the last wolf that was hiding very well.

I just hope that the things I pointed out WHY i believe Stellaria is the last wolf, makes sense to him, more than your reasons.

[Stellaria]

At this point I don't really think there's anything more of value that could come of this. I guess 'may the most handsome win'.

[Stellaria]

I want to just see this end tbh, but I respect that Wisp is taking their time with it

[Stellaria]

are you also listening to music rn?

[Stellaria]

I'm listening to a compilation of the resident evil save room themes

[ikarusdk]

are you also listening to music rn?

ah im cooking at the moment, i have a side business that sells fliipino street food online (my wife is a filipina)

[ikarusdk]

perhaps i should listen to some music while I am at it.

[ikarusdk]

ah im cooking at the moment, i have a side business that sells fliipino street food online (my wife is a filipina)

specifically turons - filipino banana wrapped in springroll pastry coated in caramelized sugar, with different fillings!

[Stellaria]

oh that's nice

I'm planning on baking some cinnamon rolls later. Not the same thing of course but cooking/baking is relaxing

[ikarusdk]

how...many.....times...have i refreshed this page