To be fair DM is playing the same way as he used to in each of his game.
I don't see his agenda coming from a scum.
Looking at it, he is the only one proposing a solve,
And even if I don't fully agree with this solve, I think there should be a part of truth in what he said.
@MattZed
DM's thought process seemed to be this:
1. Matt and MM share a night chat, and AT LEAST Matt is Illuminati
2. Frinckles and Renegade share a night chat AND Renegade is the one in the Illuminati but Frinckles isn't
3. yzb is town and is thus removed from the picture
That's how I think he built his scenarios. For the scenarios where the above assumptions didn't fill in the entire Illuminati, he figured Mesk was the last Illuminati. But he didn't mention why it had to be Mesk instead of you, the other person he hadn't cleared. (this was not the only part of his logic I couldn't follow)
I'm just burned out at this point.
@Auwt , while you're here, who are your top scumreads? (or, if you're still only reading people as town/null, who are your least-town nullreads?)
We're less than 7 hours to EoD. As far as I see, we only have about 3 options:
1. Yeet SB anyways because his slot was looking incredibly scummy before
2. Random/policy yeet someone
3. No yeet
I'm honestly torn between all three, but I'm leaning toward the first one. I don't think any amount of pressure is going to make someone look as scummy as DM was. There's no point in going after someone for being scummy if we're just going to ignore DM's slot. If Martin's not checking SB, then we're not going to get any information on him and still have this problem to resolve tomorrow.
If there is an Illuminati, we might not be able to afford to misyeet today. (setups E/F could give Illuminati the ability to instahammer D2 by revealing their Mayor) But we *could* afford to no-yeet. It just means, assuming the Mafia NK doesn't hit Illuminati, we're in a 5v3 tomorrow and need to unanimously vote to yeet Illuminati. If we no-yeet today, I would 100% yeet anyone who turns up as Illuminati to Martin.
If there isn't an Illuminati, a misyeet today probably leaves us 4v2v1 tomorrow as opposed to 5v2v1. I'd personally prefer to have two opportunities to yeet Mafia (D1 and D2) as opposed to having to rely on Martin recanting and townsiding.
But then again, my gut answer to "why didn't DM get more votes?" is that he's in an Illuminati and his partners weren't voting him.
No yeet only makes sense if we think there's an Illuminati AND SB isn't in it. I actually find this hard to believe. So it's between yeeting SB and going for a random/policy yeet.
Yeah, I'm going with SB. The only way this can come back to kill us is if there's an Illuminati and SB's not in it.
-vote Stealthbomber16
To repeat the case on DM/SB one last time: DM hasn't made sense, he didn't use his top-poster status to steer town productively, his reads make no sense, everything he says is really just to back up what he said in his third post (that me and MM are scum together), and he's discredited me, MM, and Renegade several times.
If you want more details on any of the above, just look through my posts. I've spelled out each of these in more detail at least once.
If we're in setup A/D, a no-yeet is just throwing away a chance to yeet mafia. If we're in B/C/E/F, we're in trouble only if we yeet non-Illuminati. I know I'm not Illuminati, and I know Martin isn't. Of the 7 of you left, THREE would be Illuminati. There's just no way DM/SB isn't one of them if that's the case.
I guess even if I do vote either of them, the outcome would still be the same.
Isn't the voting system majority only ?
I honestly don't believe we are going to reach a majority whatsoever.
Joining either a Frinckles or Mesk train seems to be the best option imo.
Mesk being lynched seems to be an utopia according to the current votes.
I will leave that here-vote Frinckles
And see how this is gonna play out.
I'm off for now. I will *probably* be back in time for EoD, but if I'm not, I completely stand by yeeting SB. Unless SB has secretly been *mayor* this whole time, I don't think there's anything that could happen in the next 6 hours that could convince me there's a better target.
My brain just isn't working this game tbh
twice now I think I've misread MZ's posts even though I double-check to make sure I understand them
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
@MattZed
What inspired you to make a complete 180 on your stance for lynching me today in the last 12 hours
I'm just generally lost this game if anyone was concerned about my lurkiness.
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I think the four people I have at the bottom of the lynch totem pole are MZ, MM, Auwt and Renegade in no particular order.
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If you wanted an explanation as to why, DM's slot (and SB16's play subsequently) dont seem scummy. Martin is basically doing his thing and I am once again believing Mesk.
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I would in most cases push for a MM/MZ lynch here over Auwt or Ren.
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And uhhh yeah, thats about all I got.
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This is a hard setup
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I'm okay with the following lunch today: Frinckles, Mesk, SB, and maybe Auwt.
Because there's a major difference: Mattzed actually gave a relatable reasoning based on Stealth's actions, invokes gut, partially relies on Martin's check, and most importantly, keeps an healthy doubt.
Meanwhile, Mesk is doing... this.
"If you wanna have a conversation"
Literally no inquiries whatsoever, just "well if he claims citizen he's instantly good". Honestly, I wonder how you even could see both as similar lol.
Tbh, I don't see where Mattzed is scummy. He could be scum trying to take a town leader spot, but he also could be town trying to take a town leader spot. Since he hasn't engaged in scumpainting or similar things and since I can buy his reasonings, I'd say there's no reason to call him scum atm. It's not to exclude, but it's not like being pro-town is scummy per se.
That doesn't erase the fact you gave him a free pass over a literal D1 cit claim and faked the willingness to have a convo with him lol. Also, this post was in response to @Stealthbomber16 saying you did like what Mattzed did when it came to reading him, which is utterly wrong.