S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

[Light_Yagami]

Frinckles is playing his scum meta to a T by not pushing people, trying to coast by, and by offering weak suggestions to other players. Plus, he’s reallt careful this game.

Yes But He Hasnt Begged To Be Thunder Domed Yet.. So Thats A Little Off Of His Scum Meta From My Perspective Granted Metas Can Change And Its Been Some Time Since Ive Played Forums With Any Regularity.

[Light_Yagami]

I voted Ganelon because Frinckles did.

Does That Make You Scum As Well ViA Association If Ganelon Is Correct In His Thoughts.

[SuperJack]

This Is What Makes Me Believe He Is Jester King.

I missed that picture.

-vote Sen

[BananaCucho]

Bruh you owe me for last game you killed me

Bruh I wanted to kill Vaccuum

[BananaCucho]

What is the Jester King? If we lynch him do we win or lose

[SuperJack]

What is the Jester King? If we lynch him do we win or lose

Lynch the Jester king we just get terrible night feedback. We still play, just Jester King isnt alive to convert people to Jesters.

[Light_Yagami]

What is the Jester King? If we lynch him do we win or lose

Spoiler : Jester King From Set Up :

Jester King
-Unique Role-
At night you may target someone to jesterfy them. Turning them into a Jester.
If you attempt to target yourself, a random player will receive feedback that someone visited them.
You may only turn 2 people into a jester.
You cannot convert other sinister.
You are informed of successful conversion of a player.
Upon being lynched, all Insane may receive randomized feedback, instead of their normal feedback.
25% chance of receiving 2 separate pieces of random feedback, instead of any feedback they might receive.
25% chance of receiving feedback from their true role instead their assumed role.
25% chance of having feedback swapped with another player, if no other player has their feedback swap then default to another.
25% chance of receiving normal feedback.

[Sen]

Just woke up and caught up reading, although my brain will still take a while to make sense of anything.

I see that 431 was never answered by MM.

[Renegade]

Spoiler : Jester King From Set Up :

Jester King
-Unique Role-
At night you may target someone to jesterfy them. Turning them into a Jester.
If you attempt to target yourself, a random player will receive feedback that someone visited them.
You may only turn 2 people into a jester.
You cannot convert other sinister.
You are informed of successful conversion of a player.
Upon being lynched, all Insane may receive randomized feedback, instead of their normal feedback.
25% chance of receiving 2 separate pieces of random feedback, instead of any feedback they might receive.
25% chance of receiving feedback from their true role instead their assumed role.
25% chance of having feedback swapped with another player, if no other player has their feedback swap then default to another.
25% chance of receiving normal feedback.

The terrible feedback would still outweigh the ousting of a neut + non recruitment of jesters IMO. But again I don't think a jester king is present, even with Sen's picture.

[Light_Yagami]

The terrible feedback would still outweigh the ousting of a neut + non recruitment of jesters IMO. But again I don't think a jester king is present, even with Sen's picture.

The Issue Is You Never Really Know And You Can Only Go Off Of What PPL Have Posted..

[SuperJack]

The terrible feedback would still outweigh the ousting of a neut + non recruitment of jesters IMO. But again I don't think a jester king is present, even with Sen's picture.

reason?

[Ganelon]

How's it scummy

He’s not commuting to a read

[Light_Yagami]

Like Me Ive Posted A Bunch Of Information Already.. Simply Through Memes & Gifs.

[Renegade]

reason?

??

[SuperJack]

??

How have you managed to workout the setup? How have you figured out what roles are in and what roles are out?

[BananaCucho]

He’s not commuting to a read

I think he was poking fun in that post, not making a read

[Frinckles]

Frinckles is playing his scum meta to a T by not pushing people, trying to coast by, and by offering weak suggestions to other players. Plus, he’s reallt careful this game.

Frinckles is playing his scum meta to a T by not pushing people, trying to coast by, and by offering weak suggestions to other players.

Frinckles is playing his scum meta to a T by not pushing people, trying to coast by

Frinckles is playing his scum meta to a T

huh?

[Frinckles]

He devoices his obstruents and goes full-blown New Zealander as scum, with some vague Texan undertones to remind you who he really is.

What a profound misrepresentation of my scum meta from person who understands it so well.

My vote is a good place.

[Varcron]

Wrt to the merits of a no-lynch
we have literally
no info. Lynching is 50/50. The person you may lynch may not be scum, or town. However, as indicated by the game Gyrlander linked, it is highly likely that if you receive a Town rolecard, you are Town. It’s not so clear cut if you’re scum. Hence it makes absolutely no sense to lynch someone today and we should not lynch. That is not to say we should skip however.

on the flip side: I have no idea why MM thinks light is scum. At worst what he has done is NAi. Lights lay makes a lot of sense if you take into account his last game. He actually said he needs to learn to communicate better, and believe it or not, I actually value his reads bc I think he’s capable of reading people fairly well, in spite of what I said about him last game, for that I apologize.

i agree with Varcron that Light can be a valuable asset to town as long as he doesn’t out his role every game at the start of d1.

aecondly, very obviously we cannot use host meta this game. This means that we cannot assume that the world we live in is a reasonable one. So we have to prepare for the worst. Obviously deathworlds would never put 6 serial killers in the setup as that’s insane and absurd, but anything between that and 1 extra scum
is reasonable.

thwrefore, I also think the statiscal argument has some merit to it. However I think Sen is a tryhard town who doesn’t know what he’s doing and he’s probably gonna try to lynch me for this lost. Rn im
ina cunty mood and don’t feel like being an appeaser.
as it seems to me:
we should watch out for frinkles, even though rn I think he’s tiwn
we should no lynch. Lynching only gives info to the cult... lastly we should watch very closely for every hint of a rolecpaim. What does everyone think of a mass claim d1? The only one who really needs to be afraid of a massclaoming is he director, and he can just lie and claim to be a citizen. We can figure this out mechanically. If y’all agree to that I’ll start.
btw I don’t trust Varcron :P I’m pretty sure he was trying to pocket me.
lastly, SJ has never explained why he voted me; would appreciate it if he did.

I'm not surprised you don't trust me

Pocketing you wasn't even on my mind sadly

[Frinckles]

Perhaps this is why meta is so shitty. Because if you use it the wrong way, you trip over your own feet.

[Varcron]

Bruh I wanted to kill Vaccuum

I'm hurt

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!

[BananaCucho]

Perhaps this is why meta is so shitty. Because if you use it the wrong way, you trip over your own feet.

Most of the people I see play the exact same way every game. Agreed that meta arguments suck

I move that we throw all meta arguments out

[Varcron]

Perhaps this is why meta is so shitty. Because if you use it the wrong way, you trip over your own feet.

Your meta is ass to read for the first two days

I find it easier to read later on for reasons I won't disclose to the general populace

[BananaCucho]

I'm hurt

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!

You poisoned the others against me!!

[Light_Yagami]

I'm hurt

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!

Theres A Gif/Meme For That... Just Saiyan Would Have Made Ur Response More Interesting.

[Varcron]

Most of the people I see play the exact same way every game. Agreed that meta arguments suck

I move that we throw all meta arguments out

We should, but we should keep our known meta of players in the back of our heads to double check later down the road.

[BananaCucho]

We should, but we should keep our known meta of players in the back of our heads to double check later down the road.

I have meta, can you meta me?

[Ganelon]

What a profound misrepresentation of my scum meta from person who understands it so well.

My vote is a good place.

Bruh that’s a shitpost

[Light_Yagami]

Bruh that’s a shitpost

What Is A Shit Post? Please May I Have That In A Definition..

[Renegade]

How have you managed to workout the setup? How have you figured out what roles are in and what roles are out?

I'm saying that I do not think Jester King is likely. I have said this several times above if you read my posts, even Yigama responded to them. If there was a jester king (that knew his role and wasn't a lunatic) I see no reason why they wouldn't have revealed when you beckoned to get their win.

Granted, there could still be one that is hidden and even they don't know. I'm not talking about that.

I have not said anything else about what roles I do and do not believe are in the setup. Others discussed the possibility of cult but not me.

So I am not sure where you are getting that I have determined anything about the setup outside of Jester King not being likely -that's a mighty small banana peel for such a large slip for an esteemed vet, no?

[Ganelon]

Most of the people I see play the exact same way every game. Agreed that meta arguments suck

I move that we throw all meta arguments out

No. I disagree.
As someone who used to bash meta quite often, meta arguments are incredibly useful if you know the person. It’s how I scumread MM. it’s shallow meta that’s bad.

[BananaCucho]

No. I disagree.
As someone who used to bash meta quite often, meta arguments are incredibly useful if you know the person. It’s how I scumread MM. it’s shallow meta that’s bad.

OBJECTION

[Light_Yagami]

OBJECTION

On What Grounds?

[Varcron]

I don't like the amount of shitposting today. It's cluttering the page

[SuperJack]

I'm saying that I do not think Jester King is likely. I have said this several times above if you read my posts, even Yigama responded to them. If there was a jester king (that knew his role and wasn't a lunatic) I see no reason why they wouldn't have revealed when you beckoned to get their win.

Granted, there could still be one that is hidden and even they don't know. I'm not talking about that.

I have not said anything else about what roles I do and do not believe are in the setup. Others discussed the possibility of cult but not me.

So I am not sure where you are getting that I have determined anything about the setup outside of Jester King not being likely -that's a mighty small banana peel for such a large slip for an esteemed vet, no?

Quite simple, an Intelligent Jester King would question their role card, wouldn't it be worth converting some roles or getting their rolecard confirmed before they go get themselves lynched? This has been pointed out by Gyrlander.

[SuperJack]

I don't like the amount of shitposting today. It's cluttering the page

Stop doing it then.

[Renegade]

I don't like the amount of shitposting today. It's cluttering the page

I get voted by secondpassing for a single shitpost in the first 5 pages yet they are completely silent about everyone else's shitposts. Hmmmm

[Renegade]

Quite simple, an Intelligent Jester King would question their role card, wouldn't it be worth converting some roles or getting their rolecard confirmed before they go get themselves lynched? This has been pointed out by Gyrlander.

So if that is your reasoning for antagonizing me for believing there isn't a jester king, then why did you ask for one to claim in the first place? You do recall that you polled the crowd for jester king claims, right?

Hmmm

[Ganelon]

I’m killing someone tonight

[Light_Yagami]

I’m killing someone tonight

Red Flag

[Ganelon]

So if that is your reasoning for antagonizing me for believing there isn't a jester king, then why did you ask for one to claim in the first place? You do recall that you polled the crowd for jester king claims, right?

Hmmm

I think he’s saying jk wouldn’t reveal bc what if he isn’t a jester king (and doesn’t want to get lynched)
besides, who wants to reveal and get lynched d1? That’s like the lamest win ever

[BananaCucho]

On What Grounds?

Meta arguments are shit

[Renegade]

I think he’s saying jk wouldn’t reveal bc what if he isn’t a jester king (and doesn’t want to get lynched)
besides, who wants to reveal and get lynched d1? That’s like the lamest win ever

Yes I understand that is what he is saying, so why was he asking for Jester King to reveal in the first place then?

[BananaCucho]

I get voted by secondpassing for a single shitpost in the first 5 pages yet they are completely silent about everyone else's shitposts. Hmmmm

Its not all about you, Renae

[Ganelon]

Meta arguments are shit

Depends on the meta. I used meta to scumread MM last game.

[Ganelon]

Yes I understand that is what he is saying, so why was he asking for Jester King to reveal in the first place then?

That I cannot answer

[BananaCucho]

Yes I understand that is what he is saying, so why was he asking for Jester King to reveal in the first place then?

I think he's saying jk wouldn’t reveal bc what if he isn’t a jester king (and doesn’t want to get lynched)
besides, who wants to reveal and get lynched d1? That’s like the lamest win ever

[Renegade]

Its not all about you, Renae

Agreed - shouldn't be about me at all.

[BananaCucho]

Depends on the meta. I used meta to scumread MM last game.

That man was unlynchable. Even as confirmed scum

[SuperJack]

So if that is your reasoning for antagonizing me for believing there isn't a jester king, then why did you ask for one to claim in the first place? You do recall that you polled the crowd for jester king claims, right?

Hmmm

You are assuming everyone is intelligent.