@OzyWho The Statman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy8kmNEo1i8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUpP5EyCyZA
so no more.
Solid D., why are you so bloodthirsty / eager to draw and place votes?
You were on both the Efe and Light fast trains, one of them with a "let's spice this up." Also iirc during one of those trains, you replied to someone who was asking what was going on that "someone is getting lynched" or something to that effect. That assertion also presents a bit of a contradiction with your most recent quote that Efe needs to be pressured for information rather than an actual lynch:
Speaking more broadly to other players, I am still perplexed by these town gut-reads being thrown Solid D.'s way. If you can't offer any type of reasoning, however general, or a quoted post to describe your gut feeling, then that's not even gut - it's just optimism and buddying or something. If I've missed this being offered, then by all means just tell me and I'll go look for it
If it's only because he's been sheeping other people's "statistics," then lol
Death, yet the Town.
~The Town Code
Solid D., you're also applying no pressure to any of the people who fast-derailed the Efe train from L-1 back to L-4 or L-5
Death, yet the Town.
~The Town Code
I remember that part pretty clearly : PTB's "random questions" only happen when he's scum, and he uses them to scumpaint people by creating contradictions between what they said in their reply to the questions and their behavior in the game. It's not so hard to do when you know exactly where to look, I guess.
This doesn't apply to @OzyWho here; I also would say that he's much farther from PTB's playstyle this game in general.
May I ask... where were you??
I've got a few other reasons to be town reading MM, but I doubt anybody would give a shit about them
Okay, so you have no idea.
Not just the possibility of a scum team (I really doubt scums without a chat would jump at eachother like this right away and never stop the pressure, even disregarding my individual reads on each of Aamirus and Ozy.), but the TvS or TvT possibilities.
I already have my own thoughts on all of this; I'm asking your take on the matter. I don't want you to explain me how to do it, I want you to explain me what Aamirus has been doing, and how it is alignment indicative (or not). I want to be able to read you, and if you don't let me do it, well, you're suspicious to me. @Caustic
[SIZE=3][/SIf everyone could make full read lists by the end of the day so I can colorize my last table, that would be great.IZE]
Okay, so I assume we aren't getting a Huey or Aamirus lynch anytime soon... Efekann is also a good lynch, and he's at L-3 right now.-vote Efekannn02With intent to lynch at EoD.
your fixation with me is fascinating.
i didn't start either lynch trains and nothing came of it and i never pushed it past that point. if i was persistent on the lynchings sure that's scummy as fuck and past that point i've only encouraged voting to gather information. I've already stated that those who take their time with this vote ie: a last minute vote, should be considered sus as all who voted have engaged in conversations that led to efe, at this point, having to either be EoD lynch or majority. if you have the time to quote me then you should have had the time to see all that lead to this because i already addressed my quote about the spice. FIRST OFF
and how you belittle other players opinions baffles me, there cannot be any type of engagement if we cannot look at all angles of the investigation. maybe you missed SB16 calling for a fast vote on me to have some sort of a feel as to where i stand in all of this and from day 1 i have already said who i trust who i dont time and time again. if you have time to quote me then you have time to sort through this thread. stop cherry picking and look at this from a whole. the day ends soon and we need as many facts as we can get! SECOND
FINALLY, I AINNNN'TTTT HAVING THAT SHIIIIITTTT! PICK A BETTER SUBJECT IF YOUR GONNA SCUM HUNT BOI
@Kovath
and on another note half the shit"Kovath" talks about is from a past game about how aami acted and how mm could read it. fuck that noise THIS IS SILENT NIGHT! not some other bullshit, get into the conversation and let's talk.
Even though it is definetly overly cryptic, I am seriously wondering what the hell they would be gaining from being like that as scum. It makes very very little sense.
Plus, I don't really disagree with his reads. Blink is keeping himself motivated and explicites a lot of strategy, that is true.
He says you want to solve the game... I hope you say that is true lol.
Stealth read is on point, I basically have the same read, just with more wordy explainations.
Etc.
Now, the real question is : Why would you want to lynch THIS over your scumreads, over the people who have strongly interacted with others, over the informative lynches? Sure, he's not super towny, but he's not super scummy at all; I even townread him a bit, honestly. His playstyle is... uncommon, but far from deserving a policy lynch. Light literally deserves it more than him for the constant nonsense he has been saying this game, and Efe wins the absolute prize of policy lynch-worthy. So, again, why are you placing your vote there? @Varcron
I also note that a lot of people are attacking Caustic pretty easily. That contributes to my slight townread on him.
Remaining civil doesn't kill, fyi.
I do agree that Kovath's helpful contributions are overall very thin and that the past game talk could be an excuse to talk without much content, but he has just began putting activity in the game. He is a scumread of mine, but I want to wait for D2 before actually putting a solid read on him.
if anything im reading a neaut or town on Caustic
he continues to use the words OBSERVE and CONTINUE TO OBSERVE and doesnt really exhibt any kind of fear of perscution from all his nonsense. example efe started to freak when the votes started to come down and i doubt Caustic will react this way. like he doesn't fear death. like his role can be played beyond the grave is what im thinkin.
I said it earlier, that Kovath's play gives me de ja vu of his Day1 from Whizzbang.
That is the sole reason why I won't consider a lynch on him now.
But if it wasn't for that, then I would definitely scumread him.
But I wait for Day2 before making an opinion about his alignment.
btw a Huey Lynch would tell us efe is 99% town if Huey is scum
This is a mess.
It's not about whether you started the trains, it's about your eagerness to vote on them (ex. immediately sheeping Stealthbomber's Light "tell"). Yes, other players did do some of this as well, but I'm addressing your own action in the context of your own body of work.
I don't see how I've "belittled other players opinions"; nor does your point about SB16's proposed turbo really address the fact that there are standing gut-town reads on you (that turbo never really got off the ground either, for what that's worth) that I want to understand. In a similar vein, nothing that I said really related to whether you've stated your own reads, i.e. that part is irrelevant to my posts unless you think it implicitly bolsters your town case as an indirect defense.
If we need as many facts as we can get, I don't see how understanding what is going on around your slot is counter-productive. Efe is still the primary lynch target both in actual votes and in stated intentions by other players. Am I just supposed to take for granted that you are town? Is there something in particular which is counter-productive about pushing your slot?
We are still multiple hours away from EoD in a plurality lynch world. This is plenty of time to try and make progress on other topics. Meanwhile, I've made like 5 posts recently that address you. How is this a "fixation"?
Death, yet the Town.
~The Town Code
I still don't like the fact that Efe got to l-1 so soon
Lol, good point about Kovath.
As for Aamirus, I just cannot townread what she's doing, sorry. There is a level of intentional (actually, I hope it's intentional, because else she would just be a super manipulative person naturally) manipulation that is systematically applied to all pushes in order to attain an objective of persuasion, not of truth. If you don't want to lynch her, that's fair, but I'm not going to townread her anytime soon.
This is a superficial discredit and shows that you didn't try to understand what I was attempting to address.
Blinkskater made an appeal (or made a connection) to a past game in order to bolster or help explain his townread on aamirus. I sought to understand this appeal as a means of both seeing (a) for myself whether this appeal to aamirus's past meta had any merit and (b) whether I could glean some understanding of Blinkskater from that that evaluation.
What I ended up with was my own analysis of the connection, as well as the interactions that I had with Blinkskater and aamirus during the process.
Honestly almost everything that's been aimed at my slot this game boils down to "I expect Kovath to be a way more active mega-scumhunter!" when I did not exhibit this type of behavior in Whizzbang D1 at all.
Death, yet the Town.
~The Town Code
Death, yet the Town.
~The Town Code
no your right i have no right for you or any else to immediately assume i'm town. as far as gut reading goes i've never like that, you either do or don't and should a reason above all else for reads. suppose your the first to give me the "blink-ammi" approach and im tryin not to get to aggressive or nonchalant about the situation but i guess i fucked that up. i'll need to step back and have better reasons to claim a read or role calling cause that's no good. i need to remember this is a conversation not an argument. As far as your first question goes i believe light pulled the "breifcase office thing" which got debunked i pretty much rode on that iirc