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    Freshprince: 1-S2-1-1457211

    Freshprince 1-S2-1-1457211 Grief and Gamethrow

    Demo 1 - I am Mayor and reveal d2 he even guilty on trial

    He is
    Player 8 - Hotkey CTRL 6 - Role veteran

    Day 4, 4 players left in game, I trial 8 and ask for role he doesnt answer he calls me shitface and idiot and that he already said his role. i check log and confirm he hasnt said role in public or to me.

    Once put on trial he says

    :Fuck you mayor
    uck my balls
    :I already claimed asshole
    :I did already say something
    :check your log

    He never pm me his role - check
    He didnt say role on trial when if guiltied town would lost game - check
    Lied about having said his role in public / chat - check
    Sounds like a gamethrower - Check

    His chat log
    http://prntscr.com/pcn53s
    http://prntscr.com/pcn507

    Okay so only reason i bothered to report is because 10 minutes later in the next game he Griefs by targetting me n1 and killing me

    Demo 2 - Hotkey Everyone role SK, Kills me N1

    Had enough, so gonna see what you guys think, game 1 he tries to throw and almost did it all depending if i lynched him or not and second he starts killing me n1 in the new game after we argued. i called him out saying he played bad town and he just tells me to fuck off. (in between the 2 games in chat after first one ended)
    Last edited by MasterNinja; September 29th, 2019 at 08:05 PM.
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    Re: Freshprince 1-S2-1-1457211 Grief and Gamethrow

    I want to add this new gamethrow / grief

    Freshprince - hotkey CTRL 3 - Player 3 light blue color name - Role BUS Driver

    Crimes: Lynching the only confirmed town and losing the game to town at the most crucial time in the game.

    Day 3: Marshall reveals, he does not vote annyone on guilty so i force him to vote up player 5 right before day ends and player 5 was Triad, this way i confirmed that im atleast not Triad.

    Day4: I tell marshall to use -lynch again because he doesnt play or do anything or doesnt say anything, either completely new or teaming with triad on purpose, Either way im doing what i can to lead the town and get all the roles and lead the town to victory, freshprince as town decides to lynch me up and we lose the game because of him.

    After proving im not triad and trying my best to find out who's evil since marshall isnt doing anything he had no reason to vote me up. total gamethrow at that point and we lost the game cause of it.

    Did i look like an EVIL role here trying to lead town to its doom? Absolutely Not.
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    Last edited by MasterNinja; October 16th, 2019 at 05:23 PM.
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    Re: Freshprince 1-S2-1-1457211 Grief and Gamethrow

    ID Verification
    FreshPrince: Correct. 1-S2-1-1457211

    Players Added to Report
    SoulEaterR: 1-S2-1-5152845 (Replay 4)

    ----------Replay #1----------

    Hotkey
    CTRL + 6

    Summary:
    FreshPrince is given the name Luzio Moretti and is a Veteran in slot #8.
    SoulEaterR chooses the name Bitcoin and is a Mayor in slot #1.

    Day 1: Normal banter.

    Night 1: #8 alerts. #4 (Sheriff) visits #8 and dies.

    Day 2: #4 does not leave a last will, so #8 is unconfirmed. #1 claims to be the Mayor, but does not reveal. #1 is put up for a trial. At first, #1 refuses to reveal as Mayor. Eventually, towards the end of the trial, #1 reveals. #1 is pardoned 9-1, with #8 voting guilty.
    The day continues. #8 says:
    "1's mayor trolling in every game is getting old"
    "thankfully i believe i have the solution"
    #8 does not claim a role, either publicly nor in a PM.
    #5 (Serial Killer) is lynched.

    Night 2: #8 alerts with two intruders.

    Day 3: Neither intruder leaves a last will indicating who the Veteran is.
    Normal gameplay.

    Night 3: #8 alerts with no intruders.

    Day 4: Four players are left. #13 claims Veteran and asks "who s the othet vet". #8 says "me". #1 puts #8 up for a trial. #8 says:
    "fuck you mayor"
    "suck my balls"
    "i already claimed asshole"
    "i did say something"
    "check your log"
    #13 points out that #8 claimed Veteran.
    #8 is pardoned 4-1.
    Eventually, #15 (Godfather) is lynched.

    The game ends on Day 4 with a Town victory.

    Was the game result altered?
    No.

    ----------Replay #2----------

    Hotkey
    E

    Summary:
    FreshPrince -prefers Serial Killer, Mass Murderer, and Arsonist.
    FreshPrince is given the name Serafino Conti and is a Serial Killer in slot #10.
    SoulEaterR chooses the name bitcoin and is a Vanguard in slot #6.

    Day 1: Normal gameplay.

    Night 1: #10 attacks #6. #10 writes a deathnote:
    "go warm up the next lobby faggot"

    The replay ends on Day 2.

    Was the game result altered?
    Unclear.

    ----------Replay #3----------

    Hotkey
    2

    Summary:
    FreshPrince is given the name Giuseppe the Trustworthy and is an Arsonist in slot #13.
    SoulEaterR chooses the name Bitcoin and is an Escort in slot #3.

    Day 1: #3 claims to be the Mayor.

    Night 1: #13 douses #3.

    Day 2: #3 tries to lead the town. At #3's urging, #5 (Spy) is lynched.

    Night 2: #13decides to burn. #3 dies.

    The replay ends on Day 3.

    Was the game result altered?
    Unclear.

    ----------Replay #4----------

    Hotkey
    FreshPrince: 4
    SoulEaterR: 8

    Summary:
    Player (aka PornHack) puts up a Cult save.
    SoulEaterR says:
    "REPICK this"
    "cult shit"
    "player go away"
    "not playing this"
    FreshPrince leaves.
    SoulEaterR leaves next.

    Was the game result altered?
    It's unclear if the game continued past the naming stage.

    ----------Replay #5----------

    Hotkey
    CTRL + 6

    Summary:
    A new player leaves early in the setup phase.
    The host chooses Lawless as the save variant.
    FreshPrince types -repick, and then leaves when the game is about to start.
    A few other players leave, then the replay ends.

    Was the game result altered?
    The game never began.

    ----------Replay #6----------

    Hotkey
    2

    Summary:
    FreshPrince leaves during the setup phase for no clear reason.

    Was the game result altered?
    The game only had 14 players because FreshPrince left early.

    ----------Replay #7----------

    Hotkey
    E

    Summary:
    FreshPrince starts as the host. He passes the host to killy and leaves the game.

    Was the game result altered?
    The game only had 14 players because FreshPrince left early.

    ----------Replay #8----------

    Hotkey
    CTRL + 3

    Summary:
    FreshPrince chooses the name a cockgobbling faggot and is a Bus Driver in slot #3.
    SoulEaterR chooses the name Marshall and is a Sheriff in slot #4.

    Day 1: Normal gameplay.

    Night 1: #3 busses #1 and #9. #3 is bussed, attacked, and healed. #3 doesn't leave a last will.

    Day 2: Nothing notable happens.

    Night 2: #3 busses #9 and #11. #3 doesn't leave a last will.

    Day 3: #12 reveals as Marshall. #3 PMs #12 "bd" without a last will.

    Night 3: #3 busses #9 and #4.

    Day 4: #12 reveals as Marshall again. #3 mostly doesn't talk, and just follows vote patterns. A few players vote for #4, and #3 joins in and votes for #4 as well. #4 is lynched.

    Night 4: #3 busses #12 and #7.

    The replay ends on Day 5.

    Was the game result altered?
    Unclear.

    ---------------------------------

    Player Offenses
    FreshPrince: Griefing, Leave Train
    SoulEaterR: Leave Train

    Previous Offenses
    FreshPrince:
    Leave Train (Watchlist x4) (October 2019)
    Griefing (Watchlist x2) (January 2019)
    Griefing (Watchlist x2) (January 2019)
    Reactionary Gamethrowing (Watchlist x2) (April 2017)
    Rolequitting (On Hold) (April 2016)

    SoulEaterR:
    Intentional Gamethrowing (Approved for Watchlist x2) (September 2019)
    Griefing (On Hold) (February 2019)

    Recommended Action
    FreshPrince: Watchlist x4
    SoulEaterR: Watchlist +2

    Additional Notes
    Replay 1: FreshPrince played poorly, but in my opinion he did not gamethrow. It would have been responsible to clearly and publicly claim Veteran early in the game once he killed people. He certainly should have claimed a role to the Government. But he did eventually claim, and the Town won the game. Overall, I don't think his behavior in this game is against the rules.
    Replay 2: As a Serial Killer, FreshPrince had the right to target any player he wished. However, his deathnote shows that he specifically targeted SoulEaterR because of a grudge. This is minor griefing.
    Replay 3: FreshPrince had a good reason to kill SoulEaterR as soon as possible: SoulEaterR had claimed to be the Mayor. FreshPrince probably wanted to get rid of the Mayor as soon as possible. This is legitimate play.
    Replay 4: It's true that FreshPrince was the first player to leave the game. However, SoulEaterR was the one who tried to influence other players to leave. In this case, SoulEaterR broke the leavetrain rule, not FreshPrince.
    Replay 5: I don't recommend punishment for any player in this game. First, a new player left for no reason. Then the host chooses the (very unpopular) Lawless variant. I think leaving was a legitimate choice, especially since FreshPrince did not influence other players to leave.
    Replay 6: FreshPrince leaves early for no apparent reason.
    Replay 7: FreshPrince leaves early again, less than ten minutes after replay 6. This is clearly a pattern. Along with the evidence in this report, it's clear that FreshPrince has a habit of leaving early.
    Replay 8: FreshPrince mostly played well enough in this game. He followed most of the Marshall's votes. And he bought into the other players' lies about SoulEaterR. I don't believe that FreshPrince broke the rules in this game.

    A note for the reporter: If you use a bright green name and claim to be the Government, don't be surprised if evil players attack you. You're asking to be targeted.

    Thank you for your effort to keep the game clean!
    Last edited by Omegasaur; October 18th, 2019 at 09:47 PM.
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    Re: Freshprince 1-S2-1-1457211 Grief and Gamethrow

    Replay 4 i had tons of reasons to leave, Didnt want cult save, asked for repick, made clear im not playing cult save this time, Someone else left the game.


    and i cant open this? isn't it approved? http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...1-S2-1-5152845 Intentional Gamethrowing (Approved for Watchlist x2) (September 2019)


    edit: gonna add this to your statement that as SK he can kill whoever he wants, yes he can kill whoever he wants, but if he picks me just to grief as we can tell by previous replays that he chooses me specifically to ruin for me and make my sc2mafia games garbage, thats not allowed and thats griefing so thats a valid replay for Griefing regardless of his role.

    He is coming after me 9/10 of the games i play with him, he is trying to ruin my games on purpose, i dont try to ruin for him or target him any time i just play normaly as town as i always do.
    Last edited by MasterNinja; October 22nd, 2019 at 01:38 PM.
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    Re: Freshprince: 1-S2-1-1457211, SoulEaterR: 1-S2-1-5152845

    I appeal this.

    Witnessing 4 +1 (4 mine, 1 other) replays of freshprince leaving before game starts as first player to leave with No reasoning at all, he was audited here. http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...nce-Leavetrain

    Based on leaving 5 times, or more when the game begun and questioned to find out it seems intentional just to ruin for the players in the game, he got 2X WL for his constant early leaves.

    On my early leave the chat log confirms i had good reasons to leave, i also left because another player left before me so that ruined things even more going hand in hand with not wanting Cult save.

    In no wild fantasy land is 5 replays + of freshprince leaving as first person on purpose to ruin for others in any world comparable to me leaving Once with very good reasons to leave.

    So thats my appeal, if this is a valid report i will make sure to report every second player that leaves a game early for "leave train" cause on every single leavetrain on earth there is always 2 people who leaves and the second player seems to be up for a WL then, fair is fair im not gonna have it where i can be given a WL on unfair biased reports but other people cant, i actually had good reasons to leave, when freshprince started doing it without good reason he was first kindly asked on forums about it and why he did it, and when it comes to me with good reasons? 2x wl instantly without asking anything in my own report. yep then im gonna get the others who did the same thing as me since thats not allowed. you leave early even with good reasons? and only once only one replay? thats not allowed. and thats exacly what i got a WL for here.
    Last edited by MasterNinja; October 29th, 2019 at 02:14 AM.
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    Re: Freshprince: 1-S2-1-1457211, SoulEaterR: 1-S2-1-5152845

    You are not being punished for being the second player to quit, or for quitting at all. The review makes it clear:
    “However, SoulEaterR was the one who tried to influence other players to leave. In this case, SoulEaterR broke the leavetrain rule, not FreshPrince.”

    The leavetraining offense is for trying to convince others to quit the game. Not for simply quitting the game on your own.
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    Re: Freshprince: 1-S2-1-1457211, SoulEaterR: 1-S2-1-5152845

    ----------Replay #4----------

    Hotkey
    FreshPrince: 4
    SoulEaterR: 8

    Summary:
    Player (aka PornHack) puts up a Cult save.
    SoulEaterR says:
    "REPICK this"
    "cult shit"
    "player go away"
    "not playing this"
    FreshPrince leaves.
    SoulEaterR leaves next.

    Where am i trying to make leave train??????????????????? Can you guys just be fair with everyone. I made a stement im leaving if cult save and so i left. there isnt rules against leaving early. Freshprince was audited and confirmed he did it to gamethrow/ruin games for others. thats why he got a tiny 2X WL for doing it 4 Times+ and i have never done that or anything close.
    Last edited by MasterNinja; October 31st, 2019 at 02:15 AM.
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    Re: Freshprince: 1-S2-1-1457211, SoulEaterR: 1-S2-1-5152845

    FreshPrince here. So just to be clear, do you have to play a save you don’t find appealing but is still reasonable, say for example a cult save? Or can you leave, provided you did not attempt to incite others to go with you and you did not leave before the save was locked in (and before you are assigned your role obviously, as that would be role quitting).

    In these replays yea I was leaving too early.

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    Re: Freshprince: 1-S2-1-1457211, SoulEaterR: 1-S2-1-5152845

    Yes, I don't like cult saves. But at the end of the day they are not troll saves with 5 jesters, 5 veterans, etc.

    We don't specifically punish people because they once left at the start of game. But when it becomes a reoccurrence, we determine that it reached the point of intentional greifing, where the person constantly make it harder to enjoy a full lobby. It's basically encouraging leave trains without the magic phrase. Adding in your case, the early leave without attempting to salvage with a repick.
    I have no use for these bloodless minnows. Bring me a prey that will sate my bloodlust. I hunger.

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    Re: Freshprince: 1-S2-1-1457211, SoulEaterR: 1-S2-1-5152845

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMostache View Post
    Yes, I don't like cult saves. But at the end of the day they are not troll saves with 5 jesters, 5 veterans, etc.

    We don't specifically punish people because they once left at the start of game. But when it becomes a reoccurrence, we determine that it reached the point of intentional greifing, where the person constantly make it harder to enjoy a full lobby. It's basically encouraging leave trains without the magic phrase. Adding in your case, the early leave without attempting to salvage with a repick.
    Then why do i have a WL from thin air where i ask for repick and 1 person leaves ahead of me ruining the lobby on purpose as thats why i reported this guy? Do i really need to request an appeal for this on a replay that is 5 seconds long and takes 5 seconds to resolve and has simple and good reasons to leave?

    Well i thought this was pretty quick to solve just right now without having to ask for appeal (just saving you all some time since these appeals looks like alot of time when this is simple) cause i obviously havent incited any leavetrain atleast not according to that chatlog.
    Last edited by MasterNinja; November 2nd, 2019 at 09:43 PM.
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  14. #14

    Re: Freshprince: 1-S2-1-1457211, SoulEaterR: 1-S2-1-5152845

    I appeal this.

    Main reason: The keeper who issued the 2X WL has said he believes it was a mistake to give me LW here and said he wanted to remove it http://prntscr.com/pre8bl

    Game starts: I ask for repick and i say I am going to leave if you pick cult save because i dont want cult save, and then a player leaves ahead of me, so i left early game before the game started, not against the rules and i had good reasons to do it.

    And the keeper who gave me the WL already said he wants to remove the WL.

    I dont think i have done anything wrong here and i have not incited any leavetrains.
    Last edited by MasterNinja; November 2nd, 2019 at 10:03 PM.
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    Re: Freshprince: 1-S2-1-1457211, SoulEaterR: 1-S2-1-5152845

    Okay so for me personally I feel like what you did should fall into attempted leave train, however attempted leave train punishments in the past have been the result of obvious things (choo choo style)

    Why do I think what you did should result in an attempted leave train infraction? Words and actions have power behind them, which brings my attention to your message "not playing this" along with you trashing of the setup, then quitting. Ideally we want every game to go through with a full lobby or at least near full so people can enjoy a decent game of Mafia. I'm not saying you are to be held against your will and play every game you get into, but you owe it to the rest of the players to let the game try and progress in the least destructive manner. Kicking up a stink then quitting can entice others to quit which we do not want happening.

    Since the game was already compromised before you left due to freshprince leaving, and not knowing if the game did progress or not I think this should just be forgotten about this time but I do hope you take my thoughts on this into consideration. I'm going to discuss this further internally in regards to our leave train rule but as far as you should be concerned, try to be more chill in the setup yeah? Don't rock the boat.

    @Arrow please remove 2 weeks off his current watchlist.

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