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[Squishy Squirrel Express]

also can we get an NK on either efe and/or gyr this is literally the exact same gyr as the neutral gyr from the last 1krc

Gyr wasnt neutral at start tho? lol

and it was so amazing in the end

[Stealthbomber16]

Why are we not using anon accounts btw. I feel cheated. Roles like fred don't even work without them.

yeah we really did need anon accounts

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

Yeah, I didn't vote you because yagami is still scummier and I want to push him. I feel like pushing you wouldn't get me anywhere because we are fundamentally disagreeing.
pedit: never mind on the "still scummier" part.



I do fucking hate these double standards though. Quoting 3 shitposts from me and completely ignoring the 4 shitposts from yagami above this post. It really makes me think that you're ignoring him on purpose. I can see a yagami-sse scum team at this point.



Alright, thats fair.

1. I would agree with this sentiment if I had seen it working in the past. Town not appearing towny is not a fundamentally good thing. If you apply your logic here, then shouldnt we be lynching the most towny players because only scum should be worrying about appearing towny? I've also been told I should be learning how to project town. Whatever the fuck that means I should do.

2. My posts placed pressure on SSE and now they are clearly reacting (or at least one of them) in a very sloppy way. To the point where I'm fairly certain I've caught a scum. I see why you believe that, and I totally see eye to eye with you, but at this point, I believe I acted just aggressive enough to get what I wanted. Even if that may not have been aggressive for your tastes, it clearly provoked some kind of reaction.



nah. that is a "if you're going to scumread me at least do it for the right reasons" post.

-vote Squishy Squirrel Express

I feel confident at this point. That vote sold it for me. You're floundering.

You still fed the fire there, though.

Light always shitposts. I don't actually expect to see much more than that from him. However, you are a different case, and I'm pretty sure you understand what I'm saying.
Oh, and in case you're interested: I scumread Light, but for other reasons. He's much more cautious than he is as town, and he also is more serious from the beginning. I think he's a solo scum.

My posts placed pressure on SSE and now they are clearly reacting (or at least one of them) in a very sloppy way.

That is legitimately bullshit, though. You only fed the fire for OTHERS to jump on us, while not voting yourself. Posts of rather passive disagreement aren't pressure, they are just pushing the game towards a state that advantages you without making you look sus.

Voting a scumread for explained reasons after clearing someone for their behavior is not floundering, it's reevaluating, which is pro-town. You are 99% scum. CHOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EAT THE BLUEBERRY

Efe if you want to lynch stealth its time rn

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

yeah we really did need anon accounts

Anon accs don't work with archons, and archons were needed for the game to fill.

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

I liked gyrlanders posts but his vote seems unproductive :/
For now I think I’ll

-vote squishy squirrel express

in case I can’t make it back
In the couple of games I played with a town MM he just seemed... i dunno, more driven. The vibe of his posts is just different, or maybe thats cuz he’s archoning. I’m cool with an SB lynch too and would not mind switching if I manage to get on again \o/

Reee you're reading my archonmates' posts and then saying they don't look like my posts. And then you call us scum xD

I'd ask you to switch to SB, please. He's saying we are floundering because I put our vote off Kenny and on him, with explainations. That's OMGUS, and is a typical example of scummy use of a buzzword.

[Stealthbomber16]

Anon accs don't work with archons, and archons were needed for the game to fill.

Erm, archons do the exact opposite of help fill a game

[Stealthbomber16]

Reee you're reading my archonmates' posts and then saying they don't look like my posts. And then you call us scum xD

I'd ask you to switch to SB, please. He's saying we are floundering because I put our vote off Kenny and on him, with explainations. That's OMGUS, and is a typical example of scummy use of a buzzword.

That’s actually hilarious you linked to an article that could be used to call this exact post scummy

Buzzwords are considered scummy because it is possible to just toss out a couple of them in a stream and have it look bad for whoever is being attacked.
"Oh, you're just Flailing and offering IIoA!"
Boom, insta-lynch!
They tend to allow scum to sound like they're scumhunting without actually working too hard nor putting together an actual and sensible case.

Thor665 has advanced the theory that 'Buzzword' is itself a Buzzword, therefore it is now possible for scum to acheive an easy lynch on someone by indicating that they are using buzzwords and the buzzword of buzzword will get them lynched.

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

Erm, archons do the exact opposite of help fill a game

not when the people archoning wont even consider playing solo....
-blink

[Light_Yagami]

I agree. I think Light is a solo scum this game, he is being over-serious, and he usually throws votes around as town for quite strange reasons

he literally voted me once for highlighting a part of his post, saying i had edited it

I still believe Stealth to be scummier than him, though, but if it's Light, an inactive, or a no lynch, I 100% prefer Light.

So What Your Saiyan Is... Bacause, Im Not Randomly Throwing My Vote Around It Makes Me Scum? Interesting Indeed..

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

@Stealthbomber16 I am assuming that you townread kenny, and scumread me after the interactions I had with kenny?

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

So What Your Saiyan Is... Bacause, Im Not Randomly Throwing My Vote Around It Makes Me Scum? Interesting Indeed..

What was your take on the kenny/SSE interaction from yesterday? Do you think that the heads of the archon should be looked at differently before forming an overall read on the slot?

[Light_Yagami]

What was your take on the kenny/SSE interaction from yesterday? Do you think that the heads of the archon should be looked at differently before forming an overall read on the slot?

No I Look At Both Slots As A Whole. And Am Feeling That SSE/Kenny Is Town V Town. To Be Honest.

[Light_Yagami]

No I Look At Both Slots As A Whole. And Am Feeling That SSE/Kenny Is Town V Town. To Be Honest.

Also Unlike Some PPL Ive Played Enough With The Three Of You That I Dont Need Your Name At The End To Tell The Difference Between Who Is Currently Typing Or Saiyan What.

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

No I Look At Both Slots As A Whole. And Am Feeling That SSE/Kenny Is Town V Town. To Be Honest.

so it doesn't matter to you who's posting then when we sign our names like -blink or -mm?

[Light_Yagami]

so it doesn't matter to you who's posting then when we sign our names like -blink or -mm?

Nope Not In The Least..

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

Also Unlike Some PPL Ive Played Enough With The Three Of You That I Dont Need Your Name At The End To Tell The Difference Between Who Is Currently Typing Or Saiyan What.

I agree that you have played with us enough and can easily figure out which one of us is posting. Why does it matter? Why would your brain even need to churn in the way of thinking about who's posting what is you look at MM and myself as the same player?

[Light_Yagami]

I agree that you have played with us enough and can easily figure out which one of us is posting. Why does it matter? Why would your brain even need to churn in the way of thinking about who's posting what is you look at MM and myself as the same player?

I Look At The Slot As One Player Not 3.. But Based On The Subtle Differences I Can Tell Who Is Who..

[Light_Yagami]

Like Right Now I Believe Aivion Is Talking For The Slot.

[ZergSoupYum]

MM here.

I've taken a step back to read and see what was going on... and I realized that the argument between our archon and Kenny is really looking like TvT. We both go full attack on eachother, and disagree on a theory aspect (3 players or one in the archon), which made us jump even more.
I thought he was the one who resorted to AtE first; apparently, it wasn't the case, after reading the thread... Therefore, I do not want to lynch Kenny anymore, and am even putting him in my townreads.

HOWEVER, this granted me a nice lead. We have Stealthbomber, who has been feeding the fire with these posts:

.... Yet doesn't vote us. He is watching the world burn and lighting up the fires, here.

-vote Stealthbomber16

I'm beginning to agree with this sentiment that Kenny vs SSE seems to lean more TvT. I need to marinate more on this SSE vs Stealth conflict, but in the meantime, both of those players have a scumread on Light that I agree with. His play seems a bit off from when he was town last game.

without pressure most of what is said during the day is fluff and NAI. when you have someone going up to L-1 you then start to get "panic modes" from people which can reveal entire scumteams at times even. voting is strong and our best source of info - hell in my opinion everyone should be having a vote out within their first few posts, even if its fluff. it allows for trains to be sheeped on and to see who people are ok with just having votes stack up on.

Alrighty thanks for the advice Distorted.

I agree. I think Light is a solo scum this game, he is being over-serious, and he usually throws votes around as town for quite strange reasons

he literally voted me once for highlighting a part of his post, saying i had edited it

I still believe Stealth to be scummier than him, though, but if it's Light, an inactive, or a no lynch, I 100% prefer Light.

-vote Light Yagami

[Light_Yagami]

I'm beginning to agree with this sentiment that Kenny vs SSE seems to lean more TvT. I need to marinate more on this SSE vs Stealth conflict, but in the meantime, both of those players have a scumread on Light that I agree with. His play seems a bit off from when he was town last game.



Alrighty thanks for the advice Distorted.

-vote Light Yagami

Im Really A Town Role That You Guys Are Gonna Need Later In The Game.. So There Is That.. Im Not Going To Out Right Give My Role Away. But If Its Town Will To Kill Me Who Am I To Stop Them

[ZergSoupYum]

Im Really A Town Role That You Guys Are Gonna Need Later In The Game.. So There Is That.. Im Not Going To Out Right Give My Role Away. But If Its Town Will To Kill Me Who Am I To Stop Them

All roles can be rerolled anyways regardless of faction.
My vote is here because I most likely won't be back before EoD and felt like I had to put at least something out there.

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

Like Right Now I Believe Aivion Is Talking For The Slot.

ding dong... you're wrong it's blink

[Light_Yagami]

All roles can be rerolled anyways regardless of faction.
My vote is here because I most likely won't be back before EoD and felt like I had to put at least something out there.

Re Rolled How? I Mean I Wouldnt Wanna Re Roll My Role.. Fuck No.. I Have A Sweet Ability..

[Light_Yagami]

ding dong... you're wrong it's blink

lol Welp Happens.. Then Or U Could Be Lying.

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

lol Welp Happens.. Then Or U Could Be Lying.

Not lying, but that's what you get for not looking at us individually and then forming an overall read on the slot, poor play imo.

[Light_Yagami]

Not lying, but that's what you get for not looking at us individually and then forming an overall read on the slot, poor play imo.

The Only Real Way To Read The Slot Is To Not Look At You Each Individually. Just Look At Whats Said.

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

The Only Real Way To Read The Slot Is To Not Look At You Each Individually. Just Look At Whats Said.

then you're just looking at the game on a low IQ level

[Light_Yagami]

We Also Only Have 1Hour And 15 Mins Last I Knew To Come To A Consensus Anyways..

[Light_Yagami]

then you're just looking at the game on a low IQ level

If You Say So Buddy..

[Light_Yagami]

But As I Stated To Me The SSE And Kenny Fiasco Is TvT.

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

I agree with you that we need to focus on Stealth. He's the one that I'm the most worried about so far.
With Kenny and SSE, I still don't really know what to think. At least one of them seems to be a wolf to me, but I'm not entirely sure which one yet. Kenny is playing the same type of arguement that he had with Distorted last game, and the whole archon thing is still a bit confusing for me.
I feel like we really just need to get through Day One, and that we'll gain a lot of information Day Two. And the night actions are gonna be fun

What changed for you? seems like you went from scumreading steath and townreading yagami, to scum reading yagami? I don't recall seeing the progression here, care to elaborate?

[Mesk514]

what gay trains

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

what gay trains

sb16 is a solid train actually.

[Kenny]

Not lying, but that's what you get for not looking at us individually and then forming an overall read on the slot, poor play imo.

then you're just looking at the game on a low IQ level

This is so fucking scummy again. Literally just discrediting every player who tries to make some sense of the situation.
Again, as archon you do not have the fucking right to be read by 3 different metas. All that'd give you is an excuse to just make 3 times the scummy plays, 3 metas that all have scummy sides to them after all. As archon you gotta learn to cooperate with your archonmates and prevent meta-induced mistakes from happening. As town it should be your highest fucking priority to use your 3 heads in order to play well, not in order to excuse poor plays and lash out on others.

[Mesk514]

sb16 is a solid train actually.

i dont know about that. look who's on it.

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

This is so fucking scummy again. Literally just discrediting every player who tries to make some sense of the situation.
Again, as archon you do not have the fucking right to be read by 3 different metas. All that'd give you is an excuse to just make 3 times the scummy plays, 3 metas that all have scummy sides to them after all. As archon you gotta learn to cooperate with your archonmates and prevent meta-induced mistakes from happening. As town it should be your highest fucking priority to use your 3 heads in order to play well, not in order to excuse poor plays and lash out on others.

i don't believe I was talking to you, not looking at all of the evidence, or only looking at certain parts of evidence is scummy/bad play. Light and I can have a civil chat about it but here you come into the thread not caring about anyfucking thing else. what you're spewing is literally your opinion which I countered with my own, you can call me trash for thinking the way I think, but I also have the right to call you trash aswell. I already told you how and why I think it's best to judge each player individually before forming an overall read on the slot. it's looking at the game on a deeper level and exploring more possibilities. In no fucking way is that scummy.

Hey rememeber that game you fucking tunneled me and kept twisiting everything i said?

And that I was 100% scum? REMEMBER WHEN I WASN'T AND I WAS TOWN?

Thats what you're doing now and you've been doing that shit every game it's become literal cancer.

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

i dont know about that. look who's on it.

blink, disto, and yagami?

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

i dont know about that. look who's on it.

This close to EOD, you'd rather a no-lynch then one of the top trains?

[Light_Yagami]

Like I Said At This Point There Are Only 2 Slots I Feel Comfortable With Taking Out SB16 Or DLEM

[Light_Yagami]

Like I Said At This Point There Are Only 2 Slots I Feel Comfortable With Taking Out SB16 Or DLEM

Both Have Said The Most Scummy Things In My Book.

[Otakudweeb69]

i dont know about that. look who's on it.

^ I'd be cool with an SB lynch but I don't like the people on his train so i'm gonna refrain from that for now methinks

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

I'm beginning to agree with this sentiment that Kenny vs SSE seems to lean more TvT. I need to marinate more on this SSE vs Stealth conflict, but in the meantime, both of those players have a scumread on Light that I agree with. His play seems a bit off from when he was town last game.



Alrighty thanks for the advice Distorted.

-vote Light Yagami

This pings me as odd also, so close to EOD, and avoids the trains that would yield solid information and throws a vote on yagami, but it doesn't register because he forgot the _. He claimes Kenny and I are TVT, then when he has a scumread on sb16, instead of trying to solve the train he initially scumread he just voted offtrain which doesn't jve well imo, it also triggers some redflags because Zerg has said before that we need a flip for the information it provides. I could see a potential SB16 + Zerg scumteam.

[Light_Yagami]

^ I'd be cool with an SB lynch but I don't like the people on his train so i'm gonna refrain from that for now methinks

WoW Just WoW.. Supports The Lynch But Wont Vote Only Because Of Whos On It... Seems Suspect

[Otakudweeb69]

Reee you're reading my archonmates' posts and then saying they don't look like my posts. And then you call us scum xD

I'd ask you to switch to SB, please. He's saying we are floundering because I put our vote off Kenny and on him, with explainations. That's OMGUS, and is a typical example of scummy use of a buzzword.

im not reading your archonmates posts and comparing them to yours im reading your posts and comparing them to yours .-. remind me what you think about kenny again, anyways? I could've sworn you had him as scummier than SB at least for a while but that seems to have stopped awfully quickly to save yourself from being the lynch? :/

[Distorted]

^ I'd be cool with an SB lynch but I don't like the people on his train so i'm gonna refrain from that for now methinks

specify which people. that makes it look like mesk just gave u a reason to not vote and u took it =P ur now my highest scumread pending on the reasons.

[Otakudweeb69]

This pings me as odd also, so close to EOD, and avoids the trains that would yield solid information and throws a vote on yagami, but it doesn't register because he forgot the _. He claimes Kenny and I are TVT, then when he has a scumread on sb16, instead of trying to solve the train he initially scumread he just voted offtrain which doesn't jve well imo, it also triggers some redflags because Zerg has said before that we need a flip for the information it provides. I could see a potential SB16 + Zerg scumteam.

is possible :/ I don't like zerg much his votes kinda unproductive rn it doesn't seem very town

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

specify which people. that makes it look like mesk just gave u a reason to not vote and u took it =P ur now my highest scumread pending on the reasons.

Eod's in 4 minutes....

[Otakudweeb69]

specify which people. that makes it look like mesk just gave u a reason to not vote and u took it =P ur now my highest scumread pending on the reasons.

hm? I thought I clarified I scumread SSE and light already, and thought of SB as a neutral and figured SSE should go first

[Otakudweeb69]

WoW Just WoW.. Supports The Lynch But Wont Vote Only Because Of Whos On It... Seems Suspect

yeah, cuz I scumread you epeinspect:

[Squishy Squirrel Express]

^ I'd be cool with an SB lynch but I don't like the people on his train so i'm gonna refrain from that for now methinks

We need the information bro, if you're cool with it why not vote him?