S-FM The Immortals

[Demaris]

The biggest thing to understand with FM is do NOT take anything personally. If you are getting pushed, dont worry since a lot of the time people push for information, not always from you either. a lot of the times i will vote and push at people just to see how others (sometimes specifically 1 person) reacts.

If you are town: try to think from the mentality of a scum. what would u do if u were trying to hide from town and mislynch towns. what things stick out as seeming like someone has "more information". example of that would be someone KNOWING someone is town. seeming too confident in that it is a mislynch, then trying to play the "told u so" card the next day to gain town credit.

If you are scum: try to fake scumhunting. or just look for neutrals and toss neutral/mafia when trying to find lynches. try to help town, but not reveal enough to help them too much. you want to try to balance how much info u give.

if ur neutral, just have fun, explore the game and try to target a mafia practice scumhunting, try to genuinly FIND the scums. it will be like a good practice run for u.

Its a slow process of analyzing info and progressing in how you view the other people. but once again, don't take anything personally. even if u get voted up or mislynched or accidently scumslip or something and out urself. tensions run high as well as frustration (real frustration is a good town tell btw, fake emotions are a good scumhunting thing to look for), so dont feel horrible if someone starts saying some mean stuff, it's somewhat common in FM and non of it is because of who we are personally, it just gets very, very frusrtating trying to figure things out - especially when its like D2+ and people are still trolling =P

Thank you so much See i was told asking for help is scummy but ya know. id rather look scummy then look like a dumbass. Ill definatly put this to practice

[Pestilence]

That wasn’t an accident I genuinely don’t think you’d claim TPR as scum

LOL i wont put my vote here yet, but this is the lynch today.

no way efe just cracked and claimed TPR as a town. you never justify ur play as town u just keep trolling. i read this as you just felt pressure

Gonna agree with other head here. From what (admittedly little) I know of few I (sorry to say this but) don’t think he’d be good enough a player to pull off a play as convoluted as claiming TPR as anything but a townie; and i also like that he specifically asked not to be made invincible

[Efekannn02]

@Demaris do not get discouraged when people question you. pressure is a lot heavier in FM than in arcade style games =P we have gone at each other heavily before in these games, but we are still good friends in the end =P its just the nature of the game Nothing is personal.

Excuse Me!?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

That wasn’t an accident I genuinely don’t think you’d claim TPR as scum

You do not know Efekannn02, then.

[Efekannn02]

1st: are you scum?
2nd: are you neutral?
3rd: why did you revoke Efe's DJ role?

AGAIN!?!!?

[Distorted]

@Demaris btw, when @Mike was new he played like a complete idiot. literally had no idea what he was doing, voted random people kept fking up and apologizing. people literally just started to ignore him since he was obviously town and just...bad at the game. We tried to help him a bit and it did help, he started to grasp it better. then he sat back comfortably, watched the town lynch itself and stepped in at the end to take the win.... #wegotplayed.

so yes, noob play for new pro players is a real meta lol

[Efekannn02]

Nothing is personal. It’s all just a game. Don’t take anything we are saying personally.

Everything Is Personal For Me

[Distorted]

@Demaris btw, when @Mike was new he played like a complete idiot. literally had no idea what he was doing, voted random people kept fking up and apologizing. people literally just started to ignore him since he was obviously town and just...bad at the game. We tried to help him a bit and it did help, he started to grasp it better. then he sat back comfortably, watched the town lynch itself and stepped in at the end to take the win.... #wegotplayed.

so yes, noob play for new pro players is a real meta lol

Mike was a solo neutral evil role btw, forgot to mention it. town lost...mafia lost....mike won. lol

[Pestilence]

You do not know Efekannn02, then.

Efe is spamming 3 word phrases in CJO and I refuse to believe the same person who does that would claim TPR as scum with no pressure 16 hours into D1.

[Efekannn02]

@Demaris btw, when @Mike was new he played like a complete idiot. literally had no idea what he was doing, voted random people kept fking up and apologizing. people literally just started to ignore him since he was obviously town and just...bad at the game. We tried to help him a bit and it did help, he started to grasp it better. then he sat back comfortably, watched the town lynch itself and stepped in at the end to take the win.... #wegotplayed.

so yes, noob play for new pro players is a real meta lol

I use a similiar Tactic

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Spoiler : HERESY :

ok, i want to sum this up just so its clear because i know a lot of people wont study this setup since it's so wordy. Hell, even I have to keep going back to refresh myself on it lol

MAFIA:
(share a night chat)

GF/invest:

- Night Immune
- Can find Power roles.

Mafioso/vigi:

- has 2 charges, strongman

Disguiser?/actress:

- Changes roles depending on who they visited.

Traitor/Mafioso:

- Night Immune


TOWN:

Gunsmith:

- Night Immune
- Gives out 1 shot guns

2x permadoctor

- Night Immune
- Has 2 uses to make targets night immune

Night Immune Killing Vigi:... lol

-Night Immune
- Can kill 2 night immune people
- if misses twice becomes citizen

(1 of the below roles are not in the game)

Lookout/Detect-ish:

- tracks feedback

Bus Driver:

- switches 2 targets at night

Night action invest:

- Checks to see who has night actions


NEUTRALS:
(share a night chat)

Ability Thief

- Wincon changes to town if visits a Mafia

Ability thief doctor/assistant

- Can protect the ability thief once.

HOW DARE YOU >=O

[Efekannn02]

Efe is spamming 3 word phrases in CJO and I refuse to believe the same person who does that would claim TPR as scum with no pressure 16 hours into D1.

I WAS PRESSURED!!! BY YOU or mm cant remember

[Pestilence]

Efe is spamming 3 word phrases in CJO and I refuse to believe the same person who does that would claim TPR as scum with no pressure 16 hours into D1.

I see him being the neutral healer but I don’t see him being mafia and I don’t see him being traitor.

[Efekannn02]

LOL i wont put my vote here yet, but this is the lynch today.

no way efe just cracked and claimed TPR as a town. you never justify ur play as town u just keep trolling. i read this as you just felt pressure

I havent Justified anything yet oh boy wait and see mr scum

[Pestilence]

Just randomly saw that post while scrolling... THIS DOESN'T SIT RIGHT. It's a "serious troll". That's not like Town Efe, that's like Scum Efe trying to fake Town Efe. FoS on Efekannn02.

Definetly? I wouldn't go that far he's a nice candidate IMO, since he's not really useful usually, and right now he's scummy. This looks like the "Efe strats to survive as scum" right here.

Also, can I just state how lucky you are to strategize and discuss the game with someone IRL lol...

Imma be honest I’m not rly coordinating anything with other head I’m just posting shit and I’ll probably end up getting him mislynched lmfao he’s sitting right next to me but we’re both just on our phones

[Pestilence]

I use a similiar Tactic

Are you just trying to look like mafia at this point?

[Pestilence]

I love the image of two heads of a big ass hydrra both just chilling on their phones while the third one is just doing fuck knows what

[Pestilence]

@Demaris btw, when @Mike was new he played like a complete idiot. literally had no idea what he was doing, voted random people kept fking up and apologizing. people literally just started to ignore him since he was obviously town and just...bad at the game. We tried to help him a bit and it did help, he started to grasp it better. then he sat back comfortably, watched the town lynch itself and stepped in at the end to take the win.... #wegotplayed.

so yes, noob play for new pro players is a real meta lol

Won my first game played of mindnight the other day because of this so I’m super wary of it, I don’t wanna tunnel him tho so make sure you stop me if you catch that <3

[Distorted]

Thank you so much See i was told asking for help is scummy but ya know. id rather look scummy then look like a dumbass. Ill definatly put this to practice

There is no 1 thing that is scummy or towny. its all about context. you asking for help right now has nothing to do with trying to save urself or anything. and the motive behind it sounds genuine.

now, if u asked this after playing for 3 days and people started voting u before, then yeah that would raise suspicion of why u didnt ask earlier. ans the motive at that point would be clear that you were trying to justify whatever u did that was getting u voted as "noob play".

I just cant stress this enough, do not take things personally, do not feel bad (even if u do a bad play...i know we still do, but do not let it discourage you). this is a tough game, high tensions, and a decent time investment - so it generates real frusrtation =P

[Efekannn02]

Just randomly saw that post while scrolling... THIS DOESN'T SIT RIGHT. It's a "serious troll". That's not like Town Efe, that's like Scum Efe trying to fake Town Efe. FoS on Efekannn02.

Definetly? I wouldn't go that far he's a nice candidate IMO, since he's not really useful usually, and right now he's scummy. This looks like the "Efe strats to survive as scum" right here.

Also, can I just state how lucky you are to strategize and discuss the game with someone IRL lol...

Actually im Town Efe trying to be TPR for the very first time

My plan for today is to get Magoroth and Distorted shot aswell as troll the shit out of Pestilence

all grudges that tell me youre scum

[Demaris]

alright so..a read is like..giving my oppinion on people? like..reading through the posts theres a lot of finger pointing and accusing but maybe thats casting shade..i think is the term im supposed to use..so..maybe..Pestillence is trying to cast a bit of shade on me to see if anyone jumps on it the ones most likely to jump are scum right? so..Pestilence i think is town. MM is trying to sort out and analyise so..im casting Null for now. and the others well i have no idea..I think also that Light is also null or town..since his first post was a softclaim.

[Efekannn02]

Are you just trying to look like mafia at this point?

Not yet but already happened (by accident)

[Distorted]

Excuse Me!?

except with efekannn....it is all personal, always. he will hold a grudge until the end of time....... but he still loves us, so its okay

[Pestilence]

alright so..a read is like..giving my oppinion on people? like..reading through the posts theres a lot of finger pointing and accusing but maybe thats casting shade..i think is the term im supposed to use..so..maybe..Pestillence is trying to cast a bit of shade on me to see if anyone jumps on it the ones most likely to jump are scum right? so..Pestilence i think is town. MM is trying to sort out and analyise so..im casting Null for now. and the others well i have no idea..I think also that Light is also null or town..since his first post was a softclaim.

Good start! These kinds of reads are really 90% of the game. I think by d2 you’ll start really getting into it. I’m looking forward to it.

[Efekannn02]

Everything is personal with me

do not push for a efe lynch at all times especially if he is ballsy enough to fake his (unexisting) "scum" meta

[Pestilence]

Actually im Town Efe trying to be TPR for the very first time

My plan for today is to get Magoroth and Distorted shot aswell as troll the shit out of Pestilence

all grudges that tell me youre scum

I hate you efe sksksk what’s wrong with distorted tho? I honestly quite like him rn. I don’t suppose you’d have a why?

[Distorted]

alright so..a read is like..giving my oppinion on people? like..reading through the posts theres a lot of finger pointing and accusing but maybe thats casting shade..i think is the term im supposed to use..so..maybe..Pestillence is trying to cast a bit of shade on me to see if anyone jumps on it the ones most likely to jump are scum right? so..Pestilence i think is town. MM is trying to sort out and analyise so..im casting Null for now. and the others well i have no idea..I think also that Light is also null or town..since his first post was a softclaim.

@Demaris what is your experience with mafia? and town of salem?

- have u played sc2mafia on the arcade?
- have you played forum mafia anywhere else?
- how many games (approx ofc) do u think uve played of town of salem?
- any other mafia or mafia-style games you have played?
- chicken or steak?

[Efekannn02]

I hate you efe sksksk what’s wrong with distorted tho? I honestly quite like him rn. I don’t suppose you’d have a why?

Its a long story that started with jealousy

[Efekannn02]

except with efekannn....it is all personal, always. he will hold a grudge until the end of time....... but he still loves us, so its okay

I put my duty as player above it at late game otherwise im fully personal

[Pestilence]

Its a long story that started with jealousy

Oh I thought u meant you were scumreading him =_=

[Efekannn02]

HOW DARE YOU >=O

Blood for the Blood God
Skulls for the Skull Throne

[Efekannn02]

Oh I thought u meant you were scumreading him =_=

he is still a scumread

[Pestilence]

alright so..a read is like..giving my oppinion on people? like..reading through the posts theres a lot of finger pointing and accusing but maybe thats casting shade..i think is the term im supposed to use..so..maybe..Pestillence is trying to cast a bit of shade on me to see if anyone jumps on it the ones most likely to jump are scum right? so..Pestilence i think is town. MM is trying to sort out and analyise so..im casting Null for now. and the others well i have no idea..I think also that Light is also null or town..since his first post was a softclaim.

Thanks so much for your input! I look forward to hearing more from you once you’re more comfortable with this whole thing <3 I’ll wait for you to answer distorteds questions do you don’t get overrun but definitely do expect me to ask you what you think of some other players at some point probably a bit later into the game

[Wiisp]

btw pestilence is still scummy, we can humor efe as scum, but we should continue to scum hunt today

Hybrid and MM are still in the PoE
give or take the possibility that some Mafia are in the inactives, but at minimum there is one scum in that PoE I listed, probably :P

[Light_Yagami]

alright so..a read is like..giving my oppinion on people? like..reading through the posts theres a lot of finger pointing and accusing but maybe thats casting shade..i think is the term im supposed to use..so..maybe..Pestillence is trying to cast a bit of shade on me to see if anyone jumps on it the ones most likely to jump are scum right? so..Pestilence i think is town. MM is trying to sort out and analyise so..im casting Null for now. and the others well i have no idea..I think also that Light is also null or town..since his first post was a softclaim.

Here Let Me Clarify It For Ya There Is A Party..

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I see him being the neutral healer but I don’t see him being mafia and I don’t see him being traitor.

You don't know him as well as I do lol. He's very scummy right now, because he's trying to survive (in the Efe fashion).

Actually im Town Efe trying to be TPR for the very first time

My plan for today is to get Magoroth and Distorted shot aswell as troll the shit out of Pestilence

all grudges that tell me youre scum

Lol "I'M TRYIGN A NEW META!!"

-vote Efekannn02

That slot is scum lol
@Mike FoS on you, I just find Efe scummier now.

@Demaris Yea I'm trying to sort of and analyze (Totally not a bonus credit to myself xD), and that's what town should do! Try to sort things out, basically.


Looking at the post:

..so..maybe..Pestillence is trying to cast a bit of shade on me to see if anyone jumps on it the ones most likely to jump are scum right?

I want people's opinions on that. It's interesting that a new player considers people pushing them as towny, and that they consider this very legit strategy (reaction hunting)... I have a hard time seeing the alignment this indicates, though.

[Pestilence]

btw pestilence is still scummy, we can humor efe as scum, but we should continue to scum hunt today

Hybrid and MM are still in the PoE
give or take the possibility that some Mafia are in the inactives, but at minimum there is one scum in that PoE I listed, probably :P

Okay mr. “god at the game” I’ll iso you eventually

[Marshmallow Marshall]

btw pestilence is still scummy, we can humor efe as scum, but we should continue to scum hunt today

Hybrid and MM are still in the PoE
give or take the possibility that some Mafia are in the inactives, but at minimum there is one scum in that PoE I listed, probably :P

Love you too!

What do you think of Distorted and Light_Yagami right now?

[Wiisp]

u find Efe scummier, because of Meta? yikes

[Efekannn02]

idk why im happy af

finally I will get lynched by pieces of garbage as tpr on day 1

if you guys are town I will laugh at the faces you make ahahajahahahajhajaahah Lynch Me Now I think its time to have some fun

[Wiisp]

Love you too!

What do you think of Distorted and Light_Yagami right now?

I already explained my read on distorted, but it boils down to that I feel like he is actually trying to game solve atm
Light is just null, but im pretty sure ill figure him out down the line

-vote Pestilence

@Pestilence we can test my skill with a lynch on you that will flip scum

[Efekannn02]

I never had a meta

[Marshmallow Marshall]

u find Efe scummier, because of Meta? yikes

I see, you're one of these unbelievers who think meta is not good to use.... THIS IS HERESY!!!!

But nah seriously, meta is probably the only way to read Light and Efe correctly. Else they'd be permascum

[Wiisp]

idk why im happy af

finally I will get lynched by pieces of garbage as tpr on day 1

if you guys are town I will laugh at the faces you make ahahajahahahajhajaahah Lynch Me Now I think its time to have some fun

this was a really bad post... do you even know what the 3p is in this game? who is your 3p buddy then?

[Wiisp]

I see, you're one of these unbelievers who think meta is not good to use.... THIS IS HERESY!!!!

But nah seriously, meta is probably the only way to read Light and Efe correctly. Else they'd be permascum

ok i take my scum read on you, you have a decent amount of energy showing...
like i said, ill /barn the efe meta read, and i think i can find lights alignment at some point like i stated

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I already explained my read on distorted, but it boils down to that I feel like he is actually trying to game solve atm
Light is just null, but im pretty sure ill figure him out down the line

-vote Pestilence

@Pestilence we can test my skill with a lynch on you that will flip scum

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...ng-Familiarity (I just found that site and it's lovely lol)

You see, in real life, it's often a simple overconfidence. But in Mafia, it's the TMI scumtell.... How are you so sure of that? This is strange, Wisp.

[Pestilence]

I already explained my read on distorted, but it boils down to that I feel like he is actually trying to game solve atm
Light is just null, but im pretty sure ill figure him out down the line

-vote Pestilence

@Pestilence we can test my skill with a lynch on you that will flip scum

Okay buddy! I don’t see you as scum, just a town with a bit of an ego ^~^ if I’m lynched by you, and you’re town, once I flip I fully expect you to say “sorry great archon-sama I was wrong”

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Okay buddy! I don’t see you as scum, just a town with a bit of an ego ^~^ if I’m lynched by you, and you’re town, once I flip I fully expect you to say “sorry great archon-sama I was wrong”

Hmm, I like you so far, and I like Stealth too (Yes, I can see through the walls of thy Archon)... so hop into the townreads, Chogall.

[Demaris]

@Demaris what is your experience with mafia? and town of salem?

- have u played sc2mafia on the arcade?
- have you played forum mafia anywhere else?
- how many games (approx ofc) do u think uve played of town of salem?
- any other mafia or mafia-style games you have played?
- chicken or steak?

i...THINK so..like the one with the judge? and nobody wants to be the judge? my exp with tos is that..its full of AIDS lol ive played a lot of TOS a little bit of thrown of lies..but its pretty much the same right? and no this is my first forum base game. and i cant really give an approx number for that..id say like..maybe 40 or so? and mafia styled games..would Pheonix wright count? JK i know thats a no..the only ones i can think of is TOS and TOL *throne of lies* also i think yes ive played starcraft mafia the arcade thing..and also. Steak..Rare.

[Distorted]

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...ng-Familiarity (I just found that site and it's lovely lol)

You see, in real life, it's often a simple overconfidence. But in Mafia, it's the TMI scumtell.... How are you so sure of that? This is strange, Wisp.

This is why ur so easy to find as scum, u dont do ANY of this when u are scum. this is town MM lol