Gerik's run down on the topic of your policy lynch (Post #549) and your subsequent replies to it seem like a weak brush off attempt. Gerik brings up good points. Also reflecting on your MM interactions, it kinda feels like a push between 2 Mafia players. Not to mention I hate that your role can be Mafia and I'd gladly policy lynch you for peace of mind
You @ gerik, suggest im just ignoring him which i really didnt considering i pointed out his own contradiction, including his incredibly weak opening case (which preceded his reasonings). you then say i pushed MM which is untrue. Ive yet to vote in any case, even on Gerik. You then return to what im now calling... omBus Driver
??? Are you calling on a scummate to vote you lol?
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
<yayap watches people give town points and scum points to posts for invalid reasoning>
Yup my earlier statement that the player base still can't scum hunt in a vanilla game still holds.
Like I said, this is a "if, then, else" game... And yet no one has commented at all about that. Do I have to spell out everything of what the results PRs get tonight should happen?
Break time over....
This post is worthless.
If you're going to contribute something useful, do it already. Enough with this announcement of an announcement bullshit. I've had enough of you and Slaol's ego masturbation. Come back to us once you've cleaned up.
Originally Posted by Slaol
It will be along those lines of course, but the depth you wont be ready for. Also.... i thought you said there was nothing to it? Even if my play was that shallow do i have intent or not? Make up your mind chief.
Knowing what you're going to say is not the same as believing it's valid. My mind is made up until I see sufficient evidence to convince me otherwise.
If you're going to contribute something useful, do it already. Enough with this announcement of an announcement bullshit. I've had enough of you and Slaol's ego masturbation. Come back to us once you've cleaned up.
Knowing what you're going to say is not the same as believing it's valid. My mind is made up until I see sufficient evidence to convince me otherwise.
Since you made up your mind at this current state of the game. I want to ask for you thoughts about MM vs Blink.
Do you read it TvS?
Thats fine. I want your vote proudly on my death. Id hate people to forget you started it.
this statement reminds me of Me when I was the Nuet Killer in Chicago. Remember I was not night immune yet I said sure shoot me at night I am NI i dont care. and Lych me I will die for the town win. I also did it again in Turnabout I was NK there also. I kept saying Lych me I will die for town. You Slaol said no lyching you will only hurt town because you believed me to be town for it is townie to want to die for town to win. I am also wanting to know what you have to say now you said one more vote here it is.
-vote Slaol
So stop stalling and spill the beans
Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
Spoiler : :
WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!
I forgot about Banshis. Only read they have is on Mike who honestly is probably the least effective person to state your read on, game progression wise.
Also
@Slaol
I don't remember but have you made a read on Blinkskater?
I forgot about Banshis. Only read they have is on Mike who honestly is probably the least effective person to state your read on, game progression wise.
Also
@Slaol
I don't remember but have you made a read on Blinkskater?
blink is scum.
Btw I got my additional vote so i'll start my explanation now. hold your applause until all awards have been given out
I had SB, Blink and Naz in my execute pool. SB is someone you wanted policy executed because he is AFK and cannot be investigated, but I had Blink in my execute pool as well. Why would you want me to policy "execute" SB over executing a scum read?
I had SB, Blink and Naz in my execute pool. SB is someone you wanted policy executed because he is AFK and cannot be investigated, but I had Blink in my execute pool as well. Why would you want me to policy "execute" SB over executing a scum read?
Cause Blinks activity in day chat may lead to information that Stealth non activity wont be able to. Stealth wont give us voting patterns. Reading a scum is highly valuable, reading a lurker is purely garbage.
@Slaol
, you keep calling out Gerik as being here when he's invisible. A power granted to you with your FM Mod status. I'd argue that's not a fair thing to do, tbh.
@Slaol
, you keep calling out Gerik as being here when he's invisible. A power granted to you with your FM Mod status. I'd argue that's not a fair thing to do, tbh.
Ya I forgot I could see invisible when I did it. I have been reprimanded, have apologized, and have cut activity analysis out of all of my reading. It was an honest mistake and I would edit it out of my posts if I could. I genuinely feel bad about that.
Ya I forgot I could see invisible when I did it. I have been reprimanded, have apologized, and have cut activity analysis out of all of my reading. It was an honest mistake and I would edit it out of my posts if I could. I genuinely feel bad about that.
Oh okay, cool. The reprimand and apology should at least be noted publicly, as done with this post, just so I dont look like an asshole and call you out lmfao
Also also also, I am quite drunk and jsut skimmed through that last 82 fucking posts everyone made in the last 5 hours and do plan to do a more thorough read through of the individual posts when I'm, y'know, not drunk. Now to order a fire as fuck pizza.
Oh okay, cool. The reprimand and apology should at least be noted publicly, as done with this post, just so I dont look like an asshole and call you out lmfao
I mean Auckmid chose for it to be private so I was going to keep it such, and also just hope no one thought into it so the posts themselves would have as little of an impact as possible.
@Damus_Graves
is The King(Mayor) Nul/ Scum lean 25% / 75%
@Gerik
is The Queen(Doctor) Nul 50% / 50%
@Marshmallow Marshall
is Zola(Lookout) Nul/ town tiny town lean 60% / 40%
@Stealthbomber16
is Killer Croc(Compulsive Veteran) Scum Strong lean 20% / 80%
@Banshis
is Meerkat Mum(Survivalist) Nul 50% / 50%
@TheDarkestLight
is Frida(Vigilante) Nul 50% / 50%
@Mike
is Don Lu(Grave Digger) Town 100% 100% / 0%
@rumox
is Uncle Jalapeno(Jailor) Town strong lean 75% / 25%
@creedkingsx
is Mags the Mechanic(Escort) Scum slight lean 40% / 60%
@Yayap
is Grandmaster Sensei(Networker) town slight lean 60% / 40%
@Slaol
is The Great Magician(Bus Driver) Scum Lean 25% / 75%
@blinkskater
is The Goddess(Bodyguard) Scum slight lean 40% / 60%
@naz
is The General(Sheriff) Town Strong lean 80% / 20%
This is just how i see it at this time. I have been giving reasons all game. so not doing a big wall post here.
I don't know how you have a strong scum lean on someone with two posts, and also why the Sheriff isn't confirmed town to you no matter what naz is doing. It's a sheriff. I don't care what the setup says. No self respecting host would have a mafia sheriff.
Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny
How dare you send me another box of cereal
Originally Posted by ChannelMiner
Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.
I don't know how you have a strong scum lean on someone with two posts, and also why the Sheriff isn't confirmed town to you no matter what naz is doing. It's a sheriff. I don't care what the setup says. No self respecting host would have a mafia sheriff.
Becuse you have 0 pressure on you and you have been afl for 2 days of the game. That is why. Perfect cover for a vet mafia. And I notice not one person jumped in to lych you. If you where a town vet me on you would be perfect chance for scum to jump on the wagon and blame me if you flipped town. That makes me think you are being defended.
Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
Spoiler : :
WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!
Your performance has been shit and beneath your ability. Youre either scum or should be very upset with yourself. My insulting you doesnt change it, but you will keep talking and further reveal your inability to play this game. Keep talking chief.
Meta is an "out of game" piece of evidence with relevance. Please tell our new wave to ignore meta. I also only havent used the ingame because im loving you just talking yourself into the ground.
It will be along those lines of course, but the depth you wont be ready for. Also.... i thought you said there was nothing to it? Even if my play was that shallow do i have intent or not? Make up your mind chief.
Tip of the day: use names instead of pronouns - first read this with a knee-jerk reaction as it was the first post after mine, took me a sec to realize that you were talking to Gerik.
Originally Posted by Slaol
It would be helpful but id suggest waiting until the Slaol mislynch chapter plays out.
Id hate to give them a way out, if you please
Oh, I know - I'm using you as bait just as you are.
Originally Posted by Damus_Graves
Whoa pumpkin spice. I have given my reasoning for the FOS on you and the response after you gave a defense. Don't attempt to discredit what I've said by lumping me in with what Slaol has done. I havent held a card to my chest all day. I have been open and clear.
I heartily disagree with you calling me the scummiest.
It isn't about what Yayap has openly and clearly stated. Yayap was i have spoken at length about plays and WIFOM surrounding them. Its about what he didn't say.
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Hm. So you think that by his WIFOM he's town, since he has at least given stuff to think about? How can you know it's not scum WIFOM though...
He doesn't...
Originally Posted by Slaol
Thats fine. I want your vote proudly on my death. Id hate people to forget you started it.
Hey hey hey! I voted for you first and painted a small target on your back. Don't give credit to him for that. Doesn't matter that I may be using you as bait - sometimes my bait can be scum. It's funny that really don't know where I stand on this train since I haven't really chimed in about it with what I'm really thinking. -and I will keep it that way for now.
Still waiting for Slaol mic drop post before elaborating on other stuff
Spoiler : Towerpost, consolidated for your convenience into a spoiler. Open if you dare. :
i uh lost about 3 quotes but it was basically saying mike looked kinda scummy and a gut townread on yayap
Originally Posted by rumox
Day 1 is pretty good for town to catch logic slips by scum since they don't have any interactions to work off of. MM seems to be stumbling a lot out of the gate. Saying Mayor is a priority save from a TP makes no sense, and the vote on the Sheriff straight away is double weird. Sure it could be Mafia Sheriff but why is it the first person you'd look at voting? Much more damaging people to look at first. Slaol has already pointed this out, I just agree with a lot of what he is saying in regards to scum reading MM.
-vote Marshmallow Marshall
I am town reading Slaol which I have a hard time doing. I think a Mafia Bus Driver is one of the scariest roles to be up against in this. Another role I think we need to be careful of is the Grave Digger. This mostly depends on the lynch targets as the game progresses with them still alive.
I believe this was rumox's first post of the game and it accurately summed up my feelings at the time, although I do think the bit at the end where he says "I think a Mafia Bus Driver is one of the scariest roles to be up against in this." doesn't add much to the discussion and feels rather fluffy. This post makes me feel uneasy. Chalking it up to a gut read for now but I'll probably reevaluate rumox later (or at least say I'll reevaluate him and then never do it in typical Stealthbomber style)
What would you do if I said I was going to "pew pew" you tonight?
That's a strong ass opening post. Bruno style.
I think it's early to say this but i dunno lets see if it worked lmao
Originally Posted by blinkskater
hmmm, just would like it to be known that I think anyone trying to meta read the host is a donkey. the setup is randomly rolled so assuming there can be no mafia BD or mafia sheriff is sheer stupidity and shouldn't even be discussed. I'm actually going to scumread the players who've done it
I actually straight up don't give two shits. If you have a useless mafia member in a TPR spam like this then you should not keep the setup.
Originally Posted by TheDarkestLight
Speaking of which, what would YOU do if I threatened to "pew pew" you tonight? I got some feelings about you.
This is turning in a direction that I don't really like. Waving around a vig kill like this diminishes the actual pressure you can apply with it. It is way too early to be threatening to night kill and you've done it twice now. I disapprove.
Originally Posted by Damus_Graves
Day 1 shots are statistical nightmares. Its a 7% chance of hitting scum one night 1.
Don't think this is alignment indicative but still bullshit. Statistics of hitting a scum are pretty irrelevant since you're not taking into account the fact that we've had < 72 hours to deliberate.
Originally Posted by blinkskater
if you deal in %'s and numbers, which I don't care to do then you may be right. however I'm a man of action and I trust my own reads, enough to validate any shot i'd make night one.
Oh, look, he said it for me.
Originally Posted by TheDarkestLight
I find it interesting that Marshmallow Marshal didn't respond at all to a potential threat against his life.
Posts like this annoy the shit out of me. I don't believe MM even posted between your threat and now (although if I'm wrong you can ignore this whole bit) and now it just comes off as scumpainting him because he hasn't had a chance to reply.
Also, this is why I always announce when I'm going offline. So shit like this doesn't happen. Regardless of my role.
Originally Posted by blinkskater
Cause mike fucking sucks at defending himself.... or cause TDL is scum? Im going with the former
I actually agree with both of those statements
I agree with blink's thought process.
Originally Posted by TheDarkestLight
Like, wtf. This is such absurd buddying.
(Conspiracy Theory)It's almost getting me the feeling he's buddying you cause of my threat to shoot him and he doesn't wanna die.(Conspiracy Theory)
Your threats don't carry weight. I can't wait for you to try and threaten me.
--------THIS MARKS A COMPLETE SHIFT IN MY THINKING BECAUSE MIKE POSTED A BIG WALL OF BULLSHIT
Originally Posted by Mike
not trying to prove it just dont want town to make a mistake. we need to lych a mafia today. this day 1 is a critical point. 4 mafia out there.
@Damus_Graves
is The King(Mayor)
@Gerik
is The Queen(Doctor)
@Marshmallow Marshall
is Zola(Lookout)
@Stealthbomber16
is Killer Croc(Compulsive Veteran)
@Banshis
is Meerkat Mum(Survivalist)
@TheDarkestLight
is Frida(Vigilante)
@Mike
is Don Lu(Grave Digger)
@rumox
is Uncle Jalapeno(Jailor)
@creedkingsx
is Mags the Mechanic(Escort)
@Yayap
is Grandmaster Sensei(Networker)
@Slaol
is The Great Magician(Bus Driver)
@blinkskater
is The Goddess(Bodyguard)
@naz
is The General(Sheriff)
13 players 4 mafia 9 town.
day 1 lych town 4 mafia 8 town
night 1 mafia killed 4 mafia 8 town
night 1 bg defends agent 1 town big 2 town die
day 2 4 mafia 6 town if mayor is mafia will have mafia 5 votes to town 6 votes. one mislych town lost day 2.
This is why it needs to be said. Mafia knows that they are not stupid.
Mafia knows all role and knows all factions.
Town only knows roles not factions.
Town has to be smart in this save not stupid and keeping quite is not good for town. 9 town player 4 mafia so we have 9 people if they think can see the 4 that have been trying to control the votes. please 9 town read thru and really look at who is scum we need to lych a mafia player today (the 48 hours)
The way mike sets up this scenario gives me scum vibes for two reasons.
1. this is the absolute worst case scenario and it just looks like fearmongering to me. why would you run the numbers on this? there are so many wacky circumstances here.
2. the scenario has the BG protecting from the vig. this actually looks like a genuine slip to me, suggesting a Mike/Blink scumteam. Why would mike run this scenario otherwise? How would he know who the BG targets, etc. It really makes him look bad.
I think this warrants some more focus on mike although i do currently read blink as town so I'm skeptical yet. but as of this point i am really not liking mike
Originally Posted by TheDarkestLight
This assumes me and the BG kill each other, and assumes I target the BG target. Also Mayor has to be scum.
It's a whole lot of assumptions, and a whole lot of nothing.
And my second biggest scumread agrees with me.
There's definitely a scum between one of 'em. Dunno who yet but that's who I'm setting up right now. One of these two. I'm predicting that they're going to never reference their scumreads on each other again after around page 9.
Originally Posted by Mike
wow Slaol this is the most dangerous for town no mater what.
Based on his actions and this info I am voting to lych Sloal
-vote sloal
this will get ride of town screw ups and also will confirmed MM as scum or town.
im sorry what
Originally Posted by Slaol
Nigga ima be upset when you block me lol
This post is completely irrelevant and it's a good light hearted shitpost.
So why did I quote it?
Because the post 2 posts above it is blink's #360.
(this post)
Originally Posted by blinkskater
i'm out this bitch for the night peace hoes.
Why is this relevant?
Because slaol has made it absolutely known that he scumreads people for saying they leave. He's done it for multiple games now and even included it in a shitpost in a non FM thread. So why did he not call this out yet? At this point in time, I see slaol being inconsistent, I see mike being scummy, and I see blink being the link between them. I can absolutely see Slaol bussing mike for the first 24h. If blink makes some scummy posts I'm fairly certain this would be our scum core.
Originally Posted by Mike
I am not sure who is scum who is town.
Jesus christ mike
this is a scum for meta reasons but bruh this is absolutely what he did in chicago and turnabout as evil neut both times.
Originally Posted by Slaol
- Meta and Slaol self-dick-sucking post -
For the record I'm casually scum reading Blink, and in my first game with him - S-FM: Eat your Sarah Hart out - I was the only one scum reading him at one point when he was just accepted.
HEY NO YOU DO NOT GET TO TAKE SOLE CREDIT FOR THAT
Originally Posted by Slaol
Damus, if youre Mafia think of the memes my dude.
think of the memes
Originally Posted by blinkskater
Lol SB16 doesn't like me and has personal biast against me, he eould never say a good word about me.
you're a good player you just get toxic sometimes
we all do but you're a bit too much for my taste
you're actually one of the batch of players from your "generation" that i was really okay with tbh. better you than arsonist or rachyl or some shit
Originally Posted by rumox
Owning up to a mistake means very little to me during a FM. I can't look at it as innocent mistake when it can easily be you realizing you have been too opportunistic and that you have over reached.
In regards to MM thinking he didn't scum slip and nobody really touching on it, I just wanna reiterate what he did in the opening hour of the game. He voted the Sheriff and placed top priority on protecting the Mayor. Given the setup of the game, there is way more spicy roles to throw your vote on day 1 than the Sheriff. Placing priority protection on the Mayor? Why? I read later he said the Mayor's vote becomes more crucial late game and that is true, but are we late game yet? Nope. Like I said there are way more spicy roles to have our attention at this stage of the game and his priorities are way out of touch from a "townie" perspective.
This is going to sound very stupid, but do you really think a scum would be that balls to the wall dumb in their opening impressions of the game? I'm not saying I townread MM, he's actually null for me at the moment but like dude. that's like, claiming godfather levels of dumbassery and I dunno if MM would do that as scum.
Then again I literally did claim cult leader in a game I won as cult leader so i dont fuckin know
You can feel my brain deteriorating
Spoiler : optional :
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
TU QUOQUE, FILI!
shut the fuck up
Originally Posted by Mike
Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi!” (You too, Brutus, my son!) So are you saying MM you are Mafia with them and you where the Sacrifice?
shut the fuck up
Originally Posted by Slaol
I want others to read the slips themselves first. It justifies my read further. Too much preemptive hand holding
also read as "hey i see something scummy anyone else want to point it out"?
This is a loaded point and feels like a setup to either burn a townie or boost a scummate and kind of makes me feel a slaol scumread.
Originally Posted by Yayap
alright... I'm at post 170ish, man you guys talked alot while I was at work. Hope it's worth the read. I'll reply to most stuff in a huge post in a bit.
it isn't
Originally Posted by Mike
Well sb16 has been hiding from us if I was scum vet. I would stay on down low can’t be detected. So don’t get lynched day1.
my zelda gsp is like 12k because i lost 5 games on release night and then a bunch of people got the game and my gsp didnt rise to meet the bloat
Originally Posted by naz
please don't make a tower post, i won't read it. just read the game and give your thoughts you don't need to reply to 500 posts
this post didn't age well
Originally Posted by Mike
Interesting, I dont belive it. it this is true then Why all of a sudden do you show up once I vote you?
You are and have been keeping an eye on the posts. you have been hiding. You just now come back the second I vote you. I do belive SB16 would be number 1 lych for day 1.
1 if sb16 is scum perfect hiding spot. ( I believe this to be the case. )
2 if sb16 is town unless to town since all scum knows he is vet always alert.
Oh my god you're actually just unironically playing bad at this point. Does anyone actually believe this shit? I don't time my entrances with pressure. I don't time my entrances with someone saying I'm scum. I don't time my entrances with MM. I've been mislynched over this before. Nobody learns!
Originally Posted by Mike
This post screams I am town. MAfia would not make this post as they want confusion. and Sloal makes that so. Big town points here.
But meanwhile, you're creating confusion. Reread the post under my thought shift.
Originally Posted by Slaol
high value posts at all times.... followed within the same post by....
policy lynch maybe our best role with literally 0 other support.
the keking is maximum tbh
Fucking
@Gerik
can we just commiserate that we NEVER fucking get to be on the same team? It genuinely pisses me off.
Dude fuck this low quality bait it hasn't worked on anyone stop trying
Originally Posted by Slaol
Hey
@Stealthbomber16
are you scum? I had a dream in which you were scum and that would be really ridiculous
On that note: no.
Originally Posted by Mike
Slaol
1 you are scum trying t look townie
2 you are Town scum hunting
I am not sure if it is 1 or 2.
He's either town or scum. This really narrows it down, Mike. Excellent work. Read your posts over before you post them please.
Originally Posted by Mike
How about this everyone Vote sb16 I will bet money he is scum flip.
All 3 of my posts suggest I'm scum. Fuckin' sweet. This reminds me of that one time someone said "I'll quit the site if Stealthbomber16 is town."
His name was Spruance. He's gone now.
Being bad at the game creates some hilarious moments.
I've reached the point where I'm really just shitposting so I'm going to stop for now.
TL;DR: I read TDL as scum until about page 7 where Mike made a big ass scum slip that made me see him as scum alongside slaol and possibly blink. That is where my reads currently lie, with a Mike/Slaol scum core and blink as a highly possible 3rd member. As such, I'm going to place my (admittedly highly irrelevant) vote on mike for the time being.
-vote Mike
I'd also like to apologize for my inactivity earlier. it was a big mix of me playing smash ultimate too much and just genuinely being busy. If someone reminds me, I'll share a video of what I was doing today postgame. Don't want to do it now as it would probably ride the borderline of the FM rules. I'll definitely be around more tomorrow where I'll read the rest of #612-#Now.
Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny
How dare you send me another box of cereal
Originally Posted by ChannelMiner
Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.
@Slaol
, you keep calling out Gerik as being here when he's invisible. A power granted to you with your FM Mod status. I'd argue that's not a fair thing to do, tbh.
Ah. That's the bit.
Good eye.
Originally Posted by Slaol
Ya I forgot I could see invisible when I did it. I have been reprimanded, have apologized, and have cut activity analysis out of all of my reading. It was an honest mistake and I would edit it out of my posts if I could. I genuinely feel bad about that.
Fair enough.
Well, that was underwhelming. Coolio. Off to bed.
Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny
How dare you send me another box of cereal
Originally Posted by ChannelMiner
Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.
Still waiting Slaol... been almost 3 hours since you said you were preparing the enlightenment. Didn't think I would let you off the hook soo soon did you?
Wtf, is that serious? FOS on stealth lol "I played smash ultimate too much" proceeds to just read something that doesn't help the game for shit and goes off
Stealth goes down into the scumreads
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.