S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

[Marshmallow Marshall]

This is 100% accurate. I offer very little to the actual progression of the game role wise. My major mechanic is supporting and/or coordinating a lynch. @Marshmallow Marshall is playing as if I am confirmed town as well.

No, in end-game you give a lot (+1 vote for town can win the game).... but that's if you're town, which I doubt because of your next post...

Im reading over MMs post at the moment. His post is fishy, he seems to be suggesting that he knows at least one role the mafia has. His post also looks like instructions and its his first post as well. Both fishy instances.
pressure time

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

Ok, let's quote my post:
We know roles. There are three killing roles (Compulsive Veteran, Vigilante, and Jailor), and two of them can actually kill without restriction. So there's a quite big chance the mafia has a killing role in addition to their FK.
Yes, there is a good statistic chance of it being... and saying this doesn't mean I know things, but that it's statistically probable... That is scumpainting.

Yes, my immediate thoughts about the setup to get the game started asap since noone was here, which imply a general plan and obviously directives. Why is that fishy, exactly?

-vote Damus_Graves

[Damus_Graves]

No, in end-game you give a lot (+1 vote for town can win the game).... but that's if you're town, which I doubt because of your next post...


Ok, let's quote my post:
We know roles. There are three killing roles (Compulsive Veteran, Vigilante, and Jailor), and two of them can actually kill without restriction. So there's a quite big chance the mafia has a killing role in addition to their FK.
Yes, there is a good statistic chance of it being... and saying this doesn't mean I know things, but that it's statistically probable... That is scumpainting.

Yes, my immediate thoughts about the setup to get the game started asap since noone was here, which imply a general plan and obviously directives. Why is that fishy, exactly?

-vote Damus_Graves

There is a 23% chance that one the mafia has an extra kill vs not having an extra kill. Those are not good odds.
Literally anything is a statistic probability as long as its value isnt 0.
Nobody else has stated that mafia probably has an extra night kill except you. And that suggests that you know something we dont. Thats fishy and you did it to yourself, I didnt paint shit.

[Mike]

There is a 23% chance that one the mafia has an extra kill vs not having an extra kill. Those are not good odds.
Literally anything is a statistic probability as long as its value isnt 0.
Nobody else has stated that mafia probably has an extra night kill except you. And that suggests that you know something we dont. Thats fishy and you did it to yourself, I didnt paint shit.

I was scum reading Damus but he makes a valid point. Anyone else agree?

[Banshis]

There is a 23% chance that one the mafia has an extra kill vs not having an extra kill. Those are not good odds.
Literally anything is a statistic probability as long as its value isnt 0.
Nobody else has stated that mafia probably has an extra night kill except you. And that suggests that you know something we dont. Thats fishy and you did it to yourself, I didnt paint shit.

Is it really just 23%? Hmm well anyways on those if lynch each day then only the vigilante is an extra kill for them because nobody can force someone into the veteran.

[Damus_Graves]

Is it really just 23%? Hmm well anyways on those if lynch each day then only the vigilante is an extra kill for them because nobody can force someone into the veteran.

No. I missed one mafia. with 4 mafia vs 13 players its approximately 30%

[Mike]

Is it really just 23%? Hmm well anyways on those if lynch each day then only the vigilante is an extra kill for them because nobody can force someone into the veteran.

Sloal can the Bussdriver

[creedkingsx]

Sloal can the Bussdriver

Incorrect

[Banshis]

Sloal can the Bussdriver

Veteran would still alert before the busdriver and Slaol would then die for it.

[naz]

Is it really just 23%? Hmm well anyways on those if lynch each day then only the vigilante is an extra kill for them because nobody can force someone into the veteran.

been skimming posts but just want to say i'm p sure the bus driver can force ppl into the vet

[naz]

been skimming posts but just want to say i'm p sure the bus driver can force ppl into the vet

nvm lmao it was addressed and addressed again

[creedkingsx]

nvm lmao it was addressed and addressed again

Now I look like a fool for addressing it a third time lmao

[naz]

Now I look like a fool for addressing it a third time lmao

lolol gj gj

umm so i have to go back through the thread for my reads, but i think that slaol the bus driver should reveal his swaps tomorrow that way i can tell who i've investigated, thanks <3

[creedkingsx]

been skimming posts but just want to say i'm p sure the bus driver can force ppl into the vet

BD switches who targets 2 specific people. The only way BD could force someone to target Vet is if he target the Vet to try and switch him with someone else. In that case, he would die from the veteran before his targets get switched.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

There is a 23% chance that one the mafia has an extra kill vs not having an extra kill. Those are not good odds.
Literally anything is a statistic probability as long as its value isnt 0.
Nobody else has stated that mafia probably has an extra night kill except you. And that suggests that you know something we dont. Thats fishy and you did it to yourself, I didnt paint shit.

So if somebody else had said that scum having an extra kill is probable, it'd not be the same...? Plus the idea was : we need to not go to the normal LYLO since it could be game costing.

[Banshis]

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We know roles. There are three killing roles (Compulsive Veteran, Vigilante, and Jailor), and two of them can actually kill without restriction. So there's a quite big chance the mafia has a killing role in addition to their FK.

What do you exactly mean kill without restriction? I agree that odds are they could have one, but the veteran being known in the mafia is a godfather. Nobody will visit him knowing that you are guranteed dead unless the doc is on you. Vigilante gets one kill on town before they are a citizen which is still bad if they are mafia, but they don't double night kill each night. Jailor can't even do anything other than be a mafioso if we lynch each day. So I do think they are somewhat restricted.

[creedkingsx]

but the veteran being known in the mafia is a godfather.

Can you clarify out this latter bit? Auckmid said in opening post that there is no Godfather and because of broken English I'm having trouble understanding it.

[Slaol]

Can you clarify out this latter bit? Auckmid said in opening post that there is no Godfather and because of broken English I'm having trouble understanding it.

Creed do you see Mike copying your cheatsheet spoiler?

[Mike]

Creed do you see Mike copying your cheatsheet spoiler?

no trying and failing more like it

[creedkingsx]

Creed do you see Mike copying your cheatsheet spoiler?

??

[Banshis]

Can you clarify out this latter bit? Auckmid said in opening post that there is no Godfather and because of broken English I'm having trouble understanding it.

Yea sorry I typed that really fast.
I'm saying because the only way to get any information on the veteran would be with a doc sheriff combo. The veteran is only killable by ways a godfather is bodyguard/lynch/jailer. Nobody can check on him since they would die.

[creedkingsx]

Can you explain that part, please?

Also, I mean killing without having to see someone visit them. I just re-read the setup and the veteran is compulsive tho so it's sort of meaningless... he doesn't really count as a killer

Yea sorry I typed that really fast.
I'm saying because the only way to get any information on the veteran would be with a doc sheriff combo. The veteran is only killable by ways a godfather is bodyguard/lynch/jailer. Nobody can check on him since they would die.

He did already, you're welcome

[Marshmallow Marshall]

What do you exactly mean kill without restriction? I agree that odds are they could have one, but the veteran being known in the mafia is a godfather. Nobody will visit him knowing that you are guranteed dead unless the doc is on you. Vigilante gets one kill on town before they are a citizen which is still bad if they are mafia, but they don't double night kill each night. Jailor can't even do anything other than be a mafioso if we lynch each day. So I do think they are somewhat restricted.

Can you explain that part, please?

Also, I mean killing without having to see someone visit them. I just re-read the setup and the veteran is compulsive tho so it's sort of meaningless... he doesn't really count as a killer

[Banshis]

Can you explain that part, please?

Also, I mean killing without having to see someone visit them. I just re-read the setup and the veteran is compulsive tho so it's sort of meaningless... he doesn't really count as a killer

I explained it up above. The veteran is essentially immune to everything the godfather is immune to. Can't be roleblocked, killed by vig, detected by sheriff unless there is a collaboration. He is vulnerable to bodyguard kill, jailer kill, lookout, and the lynch which the godfather would be vulnerable to as well.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I explained it up above. The veteran is essentially immune to everything the godfather is immune to. Can't be roleblocked, killed by vig, detected by sheriff unless there is a collaboration. He is vulnerable to bodyguard kill, jailer kill, lookout, and the lynch which the godfather would be vulnerable to as well.

Hm, this is true. I don't see how it advances anything though. Btw I think that was already said but Auck said there was no godfather this game for balance.

[Banshis]

Hm, this is true. I don't see how it advances anything though. Btw I think that was already said but Auck said there was no godfather this game for balance.

This was mainly something I was bringing up to be wary of though. Obviously he isn't here and he only posted once so there isn't much info on him, but I'm making sure everyone knows if he got mafia as his faction then he is a godfather for them even without being an actual godfather. He can go for kills and be protected by alert at the same time.

[creedkingsx]

Can you explain that part, please?

Also, I mean killing without having to see someone visit them. I just re-read the setup and the veteran is compulsive tho so it's sort of meaningless... he doesn't really count as a killer

Also you literally said "Compulsive Veteran" in your first post.

[Mike]

Also you literally said "Compulsive Veteran" in your first post.

Wow NM my last post Good catch Creed

-vote Marshmallow Marshall