Courtroom bomber is a survivor that can blow up trials. He/She doesn't need to.
Amnesiac is a survivor that can town/scum side, but if they do that, it's revealed.
Insane Defense attorney could benefit from working with town to just get a trial off and achieve the win
Insane Prosecuting attorney:. Really depends on playstyle. This is based on whether he/she thinks they can get them lynched without the town's help.
i don't see where scum blends in. if scum claim the neutral spots, and then on day 3 a real neutral ccs them, we'd just not believe them, and the neutral would lose.
@AIVION
, what happens when someone is voted guilty. It doesn't say. I know this is a dumb question, but just being clear here
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wouldn't it make sense to put a townread on trial first, before we're able to actually decide on a proper lynch?
because inno voting 2x makes the mafia win
Guiltying a townread also fucks us over all we gotta do is to NEVER innocent someone twice. Remember that the Corrupt Attorney's ability doesn't count towards the two mislynches in a row; that means that if he uses it we're good to go
Also notice that there could be a Courtroom Bomber, and that the Corrupt Juror could use his double vote on a town. Let's not get into weird voting shenanigans: you vote your scumreads, that's it. Any objections?
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
I mean there's 2 peaple arguing about one townread with the mayor and everyone gets to watch, right.
I think that's useful for the town with watching those scumpaintings and all
And everyone gets to watch AND VOTE, yes, because those people are the jury lol
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
Courtroom bomber is a survivor that can blow up trials. He/She doesn't need to.
Amnesiac is a survivor that can town/scum side, but if they do that, it's revealed.
Insane Defense attorney could benefit from working with town to just get a trial off and achieve the win
Insane Prosecuting attorney:. Really depends on playstyle. This is based on whether he/she thinks they can get them lynched without the town's help.
i don't see where scum blends in. if scum claim the neutral spots, and then on day 3 a real neutral ccs them, we'd just not believe them, and the neutral would lose.
@AIVION, what happens when someone is voted guilty. It doesn't say. I know this is a dumb question, but just being clear here
scum could claim defense attorney and secure an inno on the defendant.
so no, we're not gonna help a defense attorney.
MM now feels scum When MM was town he would not put an easy vote from something so low on information.
I am going to going to call what I suspect as scum team of at lest 2 MM and Damas. they seem to alike. MM knows I am normally not fare off on reads so scum will want me gone fast. I was on Yzb25 and PTB first game day 1 and they where scum I was on Mag second game day 1 and they where scum. MM knows this. I dont see him trying to vote me this hard unless he sees me as a threat. So yes I read MM as hard scum. Remember in the setup scum has a privet scum chat. (if i read that corectly) They have scum painted me from the start.
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MM now feels scum When MM was town he would not put an easy vote from something so low on information.
I am going to going to call what I suspect as scum team of at lest 2 MM and Damas. they seem to alike. MM knows I am normally not fare off on reads so scum will want me gone fast. I was on Yzb25 and PTB first game day 1 and they where scum I was on Mag second game day 1 and they where scum. MM knows this. I dont see him trying to vote me this hard unless he sees me as a threat. So yes I read MM as hard scum. Remember in the setup scum has a privet scum chat. (if i read that corectly) They have scum painted me from the start.
i don't think damus and mm would allow themselves to be so alike if they were mafia
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Courtroom bomber is a survivor that can blow up trials. He/She doesn't need to.
Amnesiac is a survivor that can town/scum side, but if they do that, it's revealed.
Insane Defense attorney could benefit from working with town to just get a trial off and achieve the win
Insane Prosecuting attorney:. Really depends on playstyle. This is based on whether he/she thinks they can get them lynched without the town's help.
i don't see where scum blends in. if scum claim the neutral spots, and then on day 3 a real neutral ccs them, we'd just not believe them, and the neutral would lose.
@AIVION
, what happens when someone is voted guilty. It doesn't say. I know this is a dumb question, but just being clear here
Scum would claim defense atorney to get the guilty defendant inno'd... Prosecuting attorney can't have the guilty defendant as a target so I'm not sure. Courtroom bomber needs to die for us to win so KINDA NOT lol. Amnesiac is a maybe.
I don't see the benefits here. If I was neutral of any kind I'd just claim Attorney (more like shut up unless I'm asked to claim though lol) and do w/e I need to do.
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
MM now feels scum When MM was town he would not put an easy vote from something so low on information.
I am going to going to call what I suspect as scum team of at lest 2 MM and Damas. they seem to alike. MM knows I am normally not fare off on reads so scum will want me gone fast. I was on Yzb25 and PTB first game day 1 and they where scum I was on Mag second game day 1 and they where scum. MM knows this. I dont see him trying to vote me this hard unless he sees me as a threat. So yes I read MM as hard scum. Remember in the setup scum has a privet scum chat. (if i read that corectly) They have scum painted me from the start.
That Is Entirely Possible.. Because You Dont Know What Secret Plans They Have Going On Behind Blocked Doors..
Of course it's AI. As town you should never allow someone else to live before you.
You are the most important and sole confirmed town person in your eyes.
@Deamus, how do you think you're being objective by seeing MM as townier than you? I see you as townier than him. Why would you do that...? It doesn't make sense.
Objectively, the difference between you and MM is not very large. So you guys cannot rank one other. I don't see you voting MM under those circumstances.
They are scum team is why. I will bet money they are.
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MM now feels scum When MM was town he would not put an easy vote from something so low on information.
I am going to going to call what I suspect as scum team of at lest 2 MM and Damas. they seem to alike. MM knows I am normally not fare off on reads so scum will want me gone fast. I was on Yzb25 and PTB first game day 1 and they where scum I was on Mag second game day 1 and they where scum. MM knows this. I dont see him trying to vote me this hard unless he sees me as a threat. So yes I read MM as hard scum. Remember in the setup scum has a privet scum chat. (if i read that corectly) They have scum painted me from the start.
Scum would claim defense atorney to get the guilty defendant inno'd... Prosecuting attorney can't have the guilty defendant as a target so I'm not sure. Courtroom bomber needs to die for us to win so KINDA NOT lol. Amnesiac is a maybe.
I don't see the benefits here. If I was neutral of any kind I'd just claim Attorney (more like shut up unless I'm asked to claim though lol) and do w/e I need to do.
We won't lose if scum claiming IDA says to inno trial the Defendant once. It'd have to be twice.
Okay so courtroom bomber is actually evil, not benign. Ugh these hosts and their inconsistent colors.
Everyone has to think of the HARMS of creating a space to let our benign neutrals claim. I don't see harm to the town or the benign neutrals in co-existing together/winning together.
MM now feels scum When MM was town he would not put an easy vote from something so low on information.
I am going to going to call what I suspect as scum team of at lest 2 MM and Damas. they seem to alike. MM knows I am normally not fare off on reads so scum will want me gone fast. I was on Yzb25 and PTB first game day 1 and they where scum I was on Mag second game day 1 and they where scum. MM knows this. I dont see him trying to vote me this hard unless he sees me as a threat. So yes I read MM as hard scum. Remember in the setup scum has a privet scum chat. (if i read that corectly) They have scum painted me from the start.
Uh no, I'm pretty sure I pressure voted people I found slightly scummy when I was town, which is exactly what I did. And I'm town. Also if you seriously think that both of us would be so fucking obvious if we were a scum team, you need to check how experienced he is, seriously. And I don't think I'm that trash at scum play either xD
I will be honest: if I was scum, I would not see you as a threat, compared to other people in this game. Like not at all. I would be much more scared of Damus, and of the old people who didn't post yet because I don't know what they can do, and they have a way of thinking I am probably not used to. You aren't bad at the game, don't get mistaken; but you are not the biggest threat for scums.
Didn't you think about the fact that you could be scumread, too? Also, it was the first suspicion of the entire game; those are nearly always super weak, just a "reason" to get the game going. People will often vote someone who hasn't said anything in their very first post, just to get the game started: it is called RVS (Random Voting Stage). Your entrance was slightly scummy, so you were the best place to start with.
However, the fact that you didn't even think that you could be scumread makes me townread you unless I'm making a shitty mistake here, I don't think you're experienced enough to fake such a genuine disappointment & scumread for being scumread behavior. I am therefore adjusting my vote:
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
We won't lose if scum claiming IDA says to inno trial the Defendant once. It'd have to be twice.
Okay so courtroom bomber is actually evil, not benign. Ugh these hosts and their inconsistent colors.
Everyone has to think of the HARMS of creating a space to let our benign neutrals claim. I don't see harm to the town or the benign neutrals in co-existing together/winning together.
So now you saying me and Mag are Team? Wow. You scum rating went form 75 to 90%
Nope I didn't say that, I was more criticizing what I wondered if was an incoherence in Magoroth's reasoning. That's a form of scum hunting.
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
i don't think damus and mm would allow themselves to be so alike if they were mafia
I am honored that you don't think we would be that trash. lol
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
we'd have to do that twice though, to lose. so i don't see that scenario happening. any other downsides?
But we still wouldn't lynch him in that case...
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
you are literally trying to create a space of letting benign neutrals claim, but you just said everyone has to think of the harms of that.
???
my bad. I'd like someone to point out what are the harms in letting a benign neutral claim so they can shut Voss's stupid ideas up. If there aren't any, then let's allow them to do it without auto lynching them.
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I see you on here Mike, what are your thoughts? I'd like to hear you about Damus, Magoroth, and the blink - myself thing (the reads you get out of it).
I read you and Damas as scum team at this point to be honest. I read Mag as town, Blink He is always a hard read. I need more to read him maybe Nuet again not getting a townie read.
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wouldn't it make sense to put a townread on trial first, before we're able to actually decide on a proper lynch?
because inno voting 2x makes the mafia win
I dont see how this makes any sense.
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Guiltying a townread also fucks us over all we gotta do is to NEVER innocent someone twice. Remember that the Corrupt Attorney's ability doesn't count towards the two mislynches in a row; that means that if he uses it we're good to go
Also notice that there could be a Courtroom Bomber, and that the Corrupt Juror could use his double vote on a town. Let's not get into weird voting shenanigans: you vote your scumreads, that's it. Any objections?
Now this feels Like the Town MM.
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I read you and Damas as scum team at this point to be honest. I read Mag as town, Blink He is always a hard read. I need more to read him maybe Nuet again not getting a townie read.
Can you read my post about my read on you? I'm not gonna comment until you do because you don't seem to understand what happened.
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
I strongly disagree with neutrals claiming, voss you are just opening doors for scum to possibly claim, and let the neutrald cackle in delight. Its a scumsided terrible idea. The neutrals wont want to CC. Theres way to much at stake for them. You are going lower on my lost now.
Uh no, I'm pretty sure I pressure voted people I found slightly scummy when I was town, which is exactly what I did. And I'm town. Also if you seriously think that both of us would be so fucking obvious if we were a scum team, you need to check how experienced he is, seriously. And I don't think I'm that trash at scum play either xD
I will be honest: if I was scum, I would not see you as a threat, compared to other people in this game. Like not at all. I would be much more scared of Damus, and of the old people who didn't post yet because I don't know what they can do, and they have a way of thinking I am probably not used to. You aren't bad at the game, don't get mistaken; but you are not the biggest threat for scums.
Didn't you think about the fact that you could be scumread, too? Also, it was the first suspicion of the entire game; those are nearly always super weak, just a "reason" to get the game going. People will often vote someone who hasn't said anything in their very first post, just to get the game started: it is called RVS (Random Voting Stage). Your entrance was slightly scummy, so you were the best place to start with.
However, the fact that you didn't even think that you could be scumread makes me townread you unless I'm making a shitty mistake here, I don't think you're experienced enough to fake such a genuine disappointment & scumread for being scumread behavior. I am therefore adjusting my vote:
I strongly disagree with neutrals claiming, voss you are just opening doors for scum to possibly claim, and let the neutrald cackle in delight. Its a scumsided terrible idea. The neutrals wont want to CC. Theres way to much at stake for them. You are going lower on my lost now.
^^^^^^ exactly. And yea I don't think it's in the neutral's interest to CC anyway.
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
Can you read my post about my read on you? I'm not gonna comment until you do because you don't seem to understand what happened.
sorry i was catching up i was posting in the order of reply now I see why you guys think is am so all over the place. When I read posts they are not in line with the ones i have read until I catch up to current. I post in replay as I read them in order. Sorry everyone if that is confusing.
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I strongly disagree with neutrals claiming, voss you are just opening doors for scum to possibly claim, and let the neutrald cackle in delight. Its a scumsided terrible idea. The neutrals wont want to CC. Theres way to much at stake for them. You are going lower on my lost now.
Why not let nuet claim if there is a bomber dont we want to lych them before they can bomb makes sense to me.
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sorry i was catching up i was posting in the order of reply now I see why you guys think is am so all over the place. When I read posts they are not in line with the ones i have read until I catch up to current. I post in replay as I read them in order. Sorry everyone if that is confusing.
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
^^^^^^ exactly. And yea I don't think it's in the neutral's interest to CC anyway.
Yeah because town would be so fucking invested in KILL THE NEUTRALS HAVE THEIR HEADS... But town... What about the red guys? RABBLE RABBLE KILL THE NEUTRALS
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it's not loading.... again.... it will get back later though, it worked earlier.
Originally Posted by The Lawyer
Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
Originally Posted by oliverz144
it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
I strongly disagree with neutrals claiming, voss you are just opening doors for scum to possibly claim, and let the neutrald cackle in delight. Its a scumsided terrible idea. The neutrals wont want to CC. Theres way to much at stake for them. You are going lower on my lost now.
i mean if you're looking for excuses to move me up on your list without really putting brain power into it, thennnnn you're welcome!
If I was a benign neutral, I'd claim. If no one ccs me Day1, I'd expect people to believe my claim. If someone ccs me Day 3, I'd expect town to believe me and lynch the other claim (this closes doors for scum claiming neutral down the line). If they were actually neutral, town would just be able to move on and get me the next day. It's not like there's a mafia kill.
But please, everyone, scum read me for thinking outside the box.
or actually try to establish a dialogue with me and explain where my thinking is going wrong. I DO NOT SEE WHERE I'M GIVING NEUTRALS AN AREA TO CACKLE IN THE DARK.
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