S-FM Turnabout Mafia

[Kenny]

Anyway,

After checking Frog's ISO I have decided to no longer town-read Magoroth.

Gyrlander, what part exactly made you change your mind? Can you provide some quotes? Magoroth is a strong scumread of mine as well and I'd sure love it if I weren't the only one putting pressure on that slot.

[Light_Yagami]

What? O.o

Please read the setup before making 120398210'9381289321 mistakes. Ty.

So, You Gonna Finish Answering My Questions?

[Kenny]

So, You Gonna Finish Answering My Questions?

If you feel like some questions need answering ask them again. Your posts are hard as fuck to read and Gyrlander literally doesn't even know what you want. I personally even have trouble differentiating your roleplay from serious posts.

[Light_Yagami]

If you feel like some questions need answering ask them again. Your posts are hard as fuck to read and Gyrlander literally doesn't even know what you want. I personally even have trouble differentiating your roleplay from serious posts.

And How Do You Know That Gyrlander Doesnt Know What I Want? Does That Mean You And Him Share A Night Chat? And The Way This Game Is Set Up.. Only Jury During Trial Has A Chat And Scum Has A Permanent Chat.... So, That Being Stated.. Does That Mean Because You Know What Gyrlander Wants You Are Chatting In A Secret Chat.. BOOOM

[Kenny]

And How Do You Know That Gyrlander Doesnt Know What I Want? Does That Mean You And Him Share A Night Chat? And The Way This Game Is Set Up.. Only Jury During Trial Has A Chat And Scum Has A Permanent Chat.... So, That Being Stated.. Does That Mean Because You Know What Gyrlander Wants You Are Chatting In A Secret Chat.. BOOOM

BOOOM? Does That Mean You Are Claiming Bomber? Is That Why You Keep Bringing Up That Topic Without Providing Any Explanations Whatsoever On Why Bombing This Trial Would Be Advantageous For Them?

[Light_Yagami]

BOOOM? Does That Mean You Are Claiming Bomber? Is That Why You Keep Bringing Up That Topic Without Providing Any Explanations Whatsoever On Why Bombing This Trial Would Be Advantageous For Them?

No Im Saying You Scum Slipped There Stating You Knew Exactly What Gyrlander Was Thinking.. The Boom Was My Mind Being Blown Because Of That Scum Slip Of Yours

[Slaol]

Honestly what are you trying to achieve with that? Frog is dead and confirmed town. Why are you trying to discredit his reads?

His alignment is not up for debate. The value of his read is.

[Gyrlander]

You guys are funny lmfao.

[Gyrlander]

No Im Saying You Scum Slipped There Stating You Knew Exactly What Gyrlander Was Thinking.. The Boom Was My Mind Being Blown Because Of That Scum Slip Of Yours

Oh God Light. Why does it feel like you are drunk.

[Light_Yagami]

Oh God Light. Why does it feel like you are drunk.

Actually Not Drunk Or High At All.. For The Record Havent Even Smoked Or Drank Today..

[Gyrlander]

How would we Kenny and I even be a fucking scum team. That would be the most random / obvious / shitty thing ever.

I personally don't have MUCH problems knowing what you want as long as you make a question and tag me, but they are super strange questions, making assumptions and regardless of what I respond SOMEHOW I am scummy. It's amazing.

[Gyrlander]

His alignment is not up for debate. The value of his read is.

Same for you babe.

[Light_Yagami]

How would we Kenny and I even be a fucking scum team. That would be the most random / obvious / shitty thing ever.

I personally don't have MUCH problems knowing what you want as long as you make a question and tag me, but they are super strange questions, making assumptions and regardless of what I respond SOMEHOW I am scummy. It's amazing.

Here let Me Quote Where I Get That Again.. Thanks

[Light_Yagami]

If you feel like some questions need answering ask them again. Your posts are hard as fuck to read and Gyrlander literally doesn't even know what you want. I personally even have trouble differentiating your roleplay from serious posts.

And How Do You Know That Gyrlander Doesnt Know What I Want? Does That Mean You And Him Share A Night Chat? And The Way This Game Is Set Up.. Only Jury During Trial Has A Chat And Scum Has A Permanent Chat.... So, That Being Stated.. Does That Mean Because You Know What Gyrlander Wants You Are Chatting In A Secret Chat.. BOOOM

That Was My Response..

@Gyrlander

[Light_Yagami]

Also, @Kenny Im Taking This Very Seriously..

[Slaol]

Same for you babe.

Ive actually been proven to be fairly right with reads so far.

[Slaol]

Ive seen plenty to consider it a guilty frankly. I came in with a willingness to change but Gyrs attitude is so starkly anti contribution and anti communication that im content with this lynch
Wish i could see juror chat

[Gyrlander]

And How Do You Know That Gyrlander Doesnt Know What I Want? Does That Mean You And Him Share A Night Chat? And The Way This Game Is Set Up.. Only Jury During Trial Has A Chat And Scum Has A Permanent Chat.... So, That Being Stated.. Does That Mean Because You Know What Gyrlander Wants You Are Chatting In A Secret Chat.. BOOOM

That Was My Response..

@Gyrlander

Yeah, it's a response worthy of a conspiraid.

[Gyrlander]

Ive seen plenty to consider it a guilty frankly. I came in with a willingness to change but Gyrs attitude is so starkly anti contribution and anti communication that im content with this lynch
Wish i could see juror chat

I have been answering every question, I have told you to ask me whatever you wish, stop making it seems like I am the one who doesn't want to be townread. What I am not going to do is to be a pacifist BITCH because I don't wanna. If you make shitty questions I'm totally going to point it out.

[Gyrlander]

Ive actually been proven to be fairly right with reads so far.

Welp, not for Frog and me. That I can assure you.

[Kenny]

Ive seen plenty to consider it a guilty frankly. I came in with a willingness to change but Gyrs attitude is so starkly anti contribution and anti communication that im content with this lynch
Wish i could see juror chat

Do you consider this a policy lynch? Gyrlander has this attitude in most games, and as town often more pronounced than as scum. This isn't a scumtell for him.

[Light_Yagami]

I have been answering every question, I have told you to ask me whatever you wish, stop making it seems like I am the one who doesn't want to be townread. What I am not going to do is to be a pacifist BITCH because I don't wanna. If you make shitty questions I'm totally going to point it out.

And Yet When Judge Says You Didnt Answer All My Questions.. You Still Proceeded Not To Answer Even After I Asked One Three Times.. For Clarification.. So Hmmmm Lets Consider This.. Unwillingness To Answer All Questions.. Unwillingness To Answer A Question That Was Asked Multiple Times... Hmm Yeah And The Judge Still Isnt On Trial.. Here.. U Are..

[Slaol]

Do you consider this a policy lynch? Gyrlander has this attitude in most games, and as town often more pronounced than as scum. This isn't a scumtell for him.

What are his scum tells. It isnt a policy lynch its a he has been a detriment lynch

Welp, not for Frog and me. That I can assure you.

I read frog as toxic and a town negative. He also read #2 as mafia. And a confirmed judge as scum. Get your head out of the sand.

[Light_Yagami]

Also Your Defense Attorney Hasn't Provided Anything To Even Remotely Try To Clear Your Name... In Fact He Made Not Only Yours But His Situation Worse..

[Gyrlander]

Ah, and which questions haven't I answered? I already asked the Judge, but he hasn't answered me so I'll wait for you.

Which ones am I missing?

And Yet When Judge Says You Didnt Answer All My Questions.. You Still Proceeded Not To Answer Even After I Asked One Three Times.. For Clarification.. So Hmmmm Lets Consider This.. Unwillingness To Answer All Questions.. Unwillingness To Answer A Question That Was Asked Multiple Times... Hmm Yeah And The Judge Still Isnt On Trial.. Here.. U Are..

STOP FUCKING LYING

[Light_Yagami]

STOP FUCKING LYING

Im Not Lying.. And If I Was Judge I Hope Would Call Me Out On It.. Thanks..

[Light_Yagami]

Ill Ask For The Fourth Time.. Why If Town Would You Ask Bomber To Bomb This Trial? Why Would You Reach Out To Bomber? Wouldnt You Find That Scummy If You Were Town?

[Light_Yagami]

Its Also Actually The Burden Of Your Defense Attorney Or Yours To Find Them Questions Again.. And Tell You What Ones You Missed Not Mine Not The Judges.. Remember That..

[Gyrlander]

What are his scum tells. It isnt a policy lynch its a he has been a detriment lynch



I read frog as toxic and a town negative. He also read #2 as mafia. And a confirmed judge as scum. Get your head out of the sand.

Detriment? By being myself? I have expressed my small list of reads. Yes, they are not good, but that's how I am. I am not that analytical. You're just saying shit to not feel bad when I flip Town.

#2 was Neutral, so it's not 100% bad ;) He also read me as Town and his list of reads seems to be quite according to mine now.

[Light_Yagami]

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Im Waiting... For Answers...


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[Gyrlander]

Ill Ask For The Fourth Time.. Why If Town Would You Ask Bomber To Bomb This Trial? Why Would You Reach Out To Bomber? Wouldnt You Find That Scummy If You Were Town?

Really? Is this the question you have been claiming I haven't responded to? When I have like 2 times MINIMUM? ...

[Gyrlander]

There's gotta be a limit between the normal not very logical light and the 99% troll light.

[Kenny]

What are his scum tells. It isnt a policy lynch its a he has been a detriment lynch



I read frog as toxic and a town negative. He also read #2 as mafia. And a confirmed judge as scum. Get your head out of the sand.

He is less defensive and holds less of his own reads as scum, compared to when he is town. I've experienced his scum play in 1k rolecards as neutral and illuminati as mafia.
When he is scum he considers other people's reads much more and tries to go along with them whenever it makes sense for him. He isn't as ignorant as he is as town.
He embraces others more and generally talks of the town as a team, using words like "we".
He doesn't do that as town and didn't do that this game as well.

links to the filtered threads by his posts:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search...archid=1764980
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search...archid=1764990

[Slaol]

Detriment? By being myself? I have expressed my small list of reads. Yes, they are not good, but that's how I am. I am not that analytical. You're just saying shit to not feel bad when I flip Town.

#2 was Neutral, so it's not 100% bad ;) He also read me as Town and his list of reads seems to be quite according to mine now.

So you crafted your reads around a dead town for town points?

[Light_Yagami]

Quite Frankly @Gyrlander Im More Then Happy To Quote Everything You Said Just In This Trial.. So Humor Me.. Like I Said Sarcasm Isnt An Answer..

[Slaol]

He is less defensive and holds less of his own reads as scum, compared to when he is town. I've experienced his scum play in 1k rolecards as neutral and illuminati as mafia.
When he is scum he considers other people's reads much more and tries to go along with them whenever it makes sense for him. He isn't as ignorant as he is as town.
He embraces others more and generally talks of the town as a team, using words like "we".
He doesn't do that as town and didn't do that this game as well.

links to the filtered threads by his posts:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search...archid=1764980
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search...archid=1764990

He holds less of his own reads? Explain?

[Gyrlander]

So you crafted your reads around a dead town for town points?

Nah, my reads have been progressively changing. What are you even saying. I am only taking Frog's read into consideration this trial. I didn't even think about it before.

[Kenny]

He holds less of his own reads? Explain?

In this game Gyrlander started townreading me when I put Distorted as scumread and made some points against him. He was Gyrlander's top scumread at that time as well and almost noone else agreed there.
When Gyrlander is scum he however asks others for their reads first and then follows them afterwards. The other way around compared to how it went here.

[Light_Yagami]

In this game Gyrlander started townreading me when I put Distorted as scumread and made some points against him. He was Gyrlander's top scumread at that time as well and almost noone else agreed there.
When Gyrlander is scum he however asks others for their reads first and then follows them afterwards. The other way around compared to how it went here.

Yet I Put Distorted As My Top Scum Read And I Was Scum Read For It By Gyrlander..

[Light_Yagami]

This Was Gyrlanders Votes Before End Of Day

Gyrlander's Votes
Distorted
LightYagami
Mike
Numbertwo
MarshmallowMarshall
Voss
Magoroth
Kenny
Gyrlander

[Kenny]

Yet I Put Distorted As My Top Scum Read And I Was Scum Read For It By Gyrlander..

Can you prove that? I'm pretty sure he scumread you for your general play and not for your vote. All I could provide for that matter would be the post with his opinions in which he said he doesn't know why he scumreads you though.

[Kenny]

This Was Gyrlanders Votes Before End Of Day

Gyrlander's Votes
Distorted
LightYagami
Mike
Numbertwo
MarshmallowMarshall
Voss
Magoroth
Kenny
Gyrlander

I know what the votes are. But where did Gyrlander say he scumreads you for them?

[Light_Yagami]

So I Ask The Question.. @Gyrlander How Can You Town Read One Person For Scum Reading Distorted And Scum Read Another?

[Kenny]

So I Ask The Question.. @Gyrlander How Can You Town Read One Person For Scum Reading Distorted And Scum Read Another?

Before asking how it happened, prove that it even happened at all in the first place.

[Light_Yagami]

Well Lets Review The Massive Post Again Shall We

[Kenny]

Before asking how it happened, prove that it even happened at all in the first place.

@Light_Yagami this question is directed at you btw. I am not asking Gyrlander here, and I wasn't asking Gyrlander when I wondered about you bringing up the bomber either.

[Light_Yagami]

Makes It So Much Easier When Its In A Notebook.. Wouldnt You Agree Will Still Take Time To Find..

[Light_Yagami]

@Light_Yagami this question is directed at you btw. I am not asking Gyrlander here, and I wasn't asking Gyrlander when I wondered about you bringing up the bomber either.

Yep Im Not The One On Trial So Im Not Obligated To Answer It But Ill Humor You Something Gyrlander Has Yet To Do With My Three Questions..

[Gyrlander]

So I Ask The Question.. @Gyrlander How Can You Town Read One Person For Scum Reading Distorted And Scum Read Another?

I didn't scumread anyone for voting Distorted.

[Light_Yagami]

More like "not telling the truth" it would me that you mention a post I said and distort what I said and then I have to respond to you and tell you NO. It wasn't that idea.

Also, I'm getting the feeling that since pretty much everyone is following Judge this will be like in the mod where you need to rely on night actions cause there's no useful day chat... oops! there's no night actions! damn!

And this is mainly for Mike and Light.

Also, Voss has been kind of MIA. I miss him-

kk

Distorted,Kenny,LightYagami,Mike,Numbertwo,Marshma llowMarshall,Voss,Magoroth,Gyrlander,

There are 2 Mafia, 1 Courtroom Bomber and 1 other Neutral. As Numbertwo claim only makes sense if he is actually Neutral he'll be the random Neutral.

We're left with 3 evils. These are the remaining players: Distorted, Kenny, LightYagami, Mike, Marshmallow Marshall, Voss, Magoroth.

To be honest I can't really remember why I townread Magoroth, I think it was due to some posts that pinged me as Town... hum. He hasn't posted much in this little fight we just had so I can't really reconsider. I'll have to put him back to null.

Marshmallow Marshall, I think he may be Town due to the posts of him "having solved the game". I don't think he makes those posts as scum. That's why he'll be considered Town for now.

Mike, the super random dude that has been trying to be productive but pretty much every post succeeds in giving me a headache. To be honest I can't really tell right now, I'll be leaning Town for now and re-read Chicago if I have time.

LightYagami (?). Random. Idk. Magnificent. Arigato. Sugoi.

Kenny. Now, I wonder why he's all up there. I can't really think why I put him there in that cvote lmao. As he's literally fighting everybody and after I agreed with him about Distorted SUDDENLY everyone decided that I must be lynched and threw all kinds of shit against me.

Distorted. I can't give real arguments that you would like for why I think Distorted is scum. Since the start I've been getting the eww vibe from you, and I still remember his first list of reads that felt strange. Normally you also don't make list of reads that soon (heh, I read this). With my interaction with him he has not been addressing what I actually told him, and I told him in many posts that he wasn't telling the truth. (Surprisingly enough, it's quite similar to what Slaol has been doing. Overall being an asshole to me) Idk, SCUM.

Okey, just realised I skipped Voss. Err... can't really tell. I was kinda Townreading him, that's waht I can remember.

So for now I'll just say that I feel that Distorted, and 2 people between Light,Mike and MM are evil.

After 3 Days You Give A Reads List And It Is Likely Wrong.. What Made You Settle On Me And Distorted @Gyrlander ?