S-FM President

[Theodore Roosevelt]

How is the debate over when you literally just replied to his post?

because I am no longer replying about the subject. we are now "arguing" about the debate being over rofl so pointless.

[Richard Nixon]

He means when I gave townpoints to Washington for shaking the tree and not being cautious. It was not a "free townpoint move", however this is a discredit


No. This reads as town to me because it shows he is willing to say something about you, probably your role, but doesn't want to show it. No scum would do that, unless WIFOM. And from my experience, it is rare.

Horseshit. There is not even the slightest town value whatsoever to a “saving this to talk about it later” post. If you want to save a post, write its number down or the page it’s on. How the hell does quoting it and saying “saving this” actually help you save the post for later? Is it somehow more efficient in your eyes to try and scroll back and find your “saving it” post than to simply write the actual post number down?

[Harry Truman]

the purpose behind the post was because if JFK is MM and Truman is blinkskater, that interaction is identical to every single interaction they have every game. MM (JFK) scumreads anything blink (Truman) is doing. the conversation literally looked identical to that lol But I don't want to hunt for "who is who", even though it will be figured out pretty quickly lol.

So that read on JFK "scum reading" Truman - in the context of that being MM scum reading Blink, that would be a town move from JFK. The scenario looked identical lol thus, with the habituality of it making JFK town and truman town.- but You (truman) were using a lot of correct punctuation, so that threw me off.

However, if that turns out to be the case, I am going to laugh so fking hard because even with random names that same damn scenario would have just played out again.

teddy who are these people. it's like i don't even know you anymore

face judgement of the holy God

goodnight, thank you for the sleep allotment JFK

[Richard Nixon]

Remind me to reply to this post later. @Theodore Roosevelt

And there it is

[Richard Nixon]

nah, the "free townpoints move" was the same thing I did the other post on, when he set up to say something later. some town might see it as a reason to keep him alive or trust him, because the ambiguous post might scream "hello I am useful I'm collecting information," but it looks like a minor scum play to me because it looks like he just wants to be like "a-ha" later when he's under pressure.

sorry if I'm unclear. Truman will return when he wakes up un-inebriated and with an actual computer

Agreed. It’s a desperate move for town points and serves no other purpose

[Theodore Roosevelt]

@Theodore Roosevelt Reaction please

your talking about putting hard pressure on some1 on a day where nobody can be lynched. not happening

[Richard Nixon]

Exactly. Being 100% silent is not a scumtell, it's a I'm-not-a-scrub-without-a-real-life tell.

Bullshit. Nobody on here has a life

[Richard Nixon]

Gut says this is EXTREMELY scummy, but I can't see why logically. It's just... something a scum would say. But it's just gut...

So is your post

[Barack Obama]

because I am no longer replying about the subject. we are now "arguing" about the debate being over rofl so pointless.

if you must argue over whether or not a debate is over, it is not over

[Theodore Roosevelt]

Horseshit. There is not even the slightest town value whatsoever to a “saving this to talk about it later” post. If you want to save a post, write its number down or the page it’s on. How the hell does quoting it and saying “saving this” actually help you save the post for later? Is it somehow more efficient in your eyes to try and scroll back and find your “saving it” post than to simply write the actual post number down?

lol it was a post to be talked about after the game. was an early game prediction =P but tbh, from how tunneled u are on this im getting a bad town vibe over a scum vibe. I dont see a scum tunneling this hard this early with a no lynch day.

[Richard Nixon]

Ok. This is the beginning of my suspicions on Roosevelt. Actually, no, the beginning is when I saw he wasn't retracting this. I thought he wanted to put hard pressure on Truman by jumping on a possibility that was obviously false, to see if Truman would panic. He did not, and answered as I would expect a town member to answer.

But to get back to Roosevelt, he twisted the narrative. Then organized a push around it, and when he saw it was dying, stopped posting. I said earlier that to stop posting was not a scum tell in itself; however, to stop posting STRATEGICALLY then re-post something 10 minutes later without getting back on the subject, especially when: , is SUSSSSSSSSSSP.

I believe Roosevelt is a skilled player when it comes to scumpainting. But I cannot be sure if it was good scumpainting or legitimate town though process, because they are very similar. That being said, I am now thinking about where my president vote will go. And I do not trust Roosevelt enough to vote for him.

This is what I was saying about Roosevelt too

[John Kennedy]

Horseshit. There is not even the slightest town value whatsoever to a “saving this to talk about it later” post. If you want to save a post, write its number down or the page it’s on. How the hell does quoting it and saying “saving this” actually help you save the post for later? Is it somehow more efficient in your eyes to try and scroll back and find your “saving it” post than to simply write the actual post number down?

Yes, because it shows you didn't desperatly search for an old post to get you out of a bad situation.

[Barack Obama]

Yes, because it shows you didn't desperatly search for an old post to get you out of a bad situation.

So are you in the habit of desperately searching for old posts to get you out of bad situations?

[John Kennedy]

This is what I was saying about Roosevelt too

Spoiler : open me :

[Theodore Roosevelt]

So is your post

so far I see Nixon and Truman popping in doing lots of discrediting and preventing people from playing anything out (thus preventing reads). if this is how you are scum hunting... not a very good strategy.


Now, on a progressive note:

I am fine for an Abraham Lincoln or JFK presidential vote.

[Barack Obama]

so far I see Nixon and Truman popping in doing lots of discrediting and preventing people from playing anything out (thus preventing reads). if this is how you are scum hunting... not a very good strategy.


Now, on a progressive note:

I am fine for an Abraham Lincoln or JFK presidential vote.

Elaborate on why you are okay with Lincoln.

[Theodore Roosevelt]

Elaborate on why you are okay with Lincoln.

read first few pages. He has a good plan for America.

[Barack Obama]

read first few pages. He has a good plan for America.

Scrolling through they seem to be insignificant for me. Give me an example.

[Richard Nixon]

Yes, because it shows you didn't desperatly search for an old post to get you out of a bad situation.

It serves to try and force a quick lynch later on when you finally do “analyze” it for us (and show us who MUST be the scum). I don’t think it serves very well as a “don’t lynch me I analyzed this post a long time ago”. Even if it did, I can’t see why townies would need to actively try and create outs for themselves from future lynches. They should be focused on a team victory and scum hunting rather than ensuring their own survival. But maybe people are egotistical enough here to care more about surviving til the end than winning because they have no faith in anybody else... I guess that’s believable

[Theodore Roosevelt]

Scrolling through they seem to be insignificant for me. Give me an example.

Good vibe from that slot. Didn't seem to be scumpainting or trying to manipulate scenarios at all. still put light pressure on people. I shall follow Abraham Lincoln to the ends of this world!! On the other hand, we got Truman over here and nixon scumpainting everyone and yet not interacting with each other. JFK, somewhat opportunistic but feel it's a town slot. But, a presidential slot is not a confirmed town slot. If all hell breaks loose and we think we made a mistake, can always lynch/assassinate em.

Now, you seem to be pushing for the presidential vote for yourself; who do you think should be president here?

[Richard Nixon]

read first few pages. He has a good plan for America.

He just made shit posts

[Donald Trump]

WE WILL MAKE AMERiCA GREAT AGAIN!!!

[Richard Nixon]

Good vibe from that slot. Didn't seem to be scumpainting or trying to manipulate scenarios at all. still put light pressure on people. I shall follow Abraham Lincoln to the ends of this world!! On the other hand, we got Truman over here and nixon scumpainting everyone and yet not interacting with each other. JFK, somewhat opportunistic but feel it's a town slot. But, a presidential slot is not a confirmed town slot. If all hell breaks loose and we think we made a mistake, can always lynch/assassinate em.

Now, you seem to be pushing for the presidential vote for yourself; who do you think should be president here?

I like how when people analyze your posts and try to determine the town or scum motivations behind them you call us scum painters, but when you do the same to us you’re apparently a good townie. You come off as very scummy to me m8

[Theodore Roosevelt]

Horseshit. There is not even the slightest town value whatsoever to a “saving this to talk about it later” post. If you want to save a post, write its number down or the page it’s on. How the hell does quoting it and saying “saving this” actually help you save the post for later? Is it somehow more efficient in your eyes to try and scroll back and find your “saving it” post than to simply write the actual post number down?

In forum mafia it is always good (with the exception of if u can confirm urself 100%) to leave a trail of your thought process. always. gives people stuff to read you with and gives information on your train of thought. it also serves to make scums nervous if they see their names being thrown into "scenarios" where they do not know what is going on with it (how im reading ur reaction).

[Barack Obama]

It serves to try and force a quick lynch later on when you finally do “analyze” it for us (and show us who MUST be the scum). I don’t think it serves very well as a “don’t lynch me I analyzed this post a long time ago”. Even if it did, I can’t see why townies would need to actively try and create outs for themselves from future lynches. They should be focused on a team victory and scum hunting rather than ensuring their own survival. But maybe people are egotistical enough here to care more about surviving til the end than winning because they have no faith in anybody else... I guess that’s believable

This post really pushed me into seeing why I didn't like that post. It's like setting up an escape plan. As town I tend to not look far forward, so seeing people actively plotting is a major scumpoint for me. This post looks like he's planning it forward. I won't be surprised if he pulls this back up later, but if he does that would be pretty much instantly confirmed scum.

[Theodore Roosevelt]

This post really pushed me into seeing why I didn't like that post. It's like setting up an escape plan. As town I tend to not look far forward, so seeing people actively plotting is a major scumpoint for me. This post looks like he's planning it forward. I won't be surprised if he pulls this back up later, but if he does that would be pretty much instantly confirmed scum.

so then what do you feel about this post?

I’m mafia because I said I didn’t want to be the president and then retaliated in a hedging way?

I’m a weak PR because I said that I don’t want to be the president, but then weighed the benefits?

I’m a strong PR because I’m just trying to look like a citizen making a gambit?

I’m a citizen because I’m baiting the thought that I’m a PR with my disinterest in presidency?

C’mon baby, let’s hear the read now! Let’s start the partisan politics!

shows that they purposely made a post with 4 different escape plans that they PRE THOUGHT OUT before posting it yet I don't see you addressing that

[Richard Nixon]

In forum mafia it is always good (with the exception of if u can confirm urself 100%) to leave a trail of your thought process. always. gives people stuff to read you with and gives information on your train of thought. it also serves to make scums nervous if they see their names being thrown into "scenarios" where they do not know what is going on with it (how im reading ur reaction).

“Saving for later” is not a train of thought. What you say about making scum’s nervous is true in the case where you actually replied with part of your read, but not true in the general case of somebody just saying “saving to respond to this later” as JFK did

[Barack Obama]

Good vibe from that slot. Didn't seem to be scumpainting or trying to manipulate scenarios at all. still put light pressure on people. I shall follow Abraham Lincoln to the ends of this world!! On the other hand, we got Truman over here and nixon scumpainting everyone and yet not interacting with each other. JFK, somewhat opportunistic but feel it's a town slot. But, a presidential slot is not a confirmed town slot. If all hell breaks loose and we think we made a mistake, can always lynch/assassinate em.

Now, you seem to be pushing for the presidential vote for yourself; who do you think should be president here?

This is unsatisfactory for me but I unfortunately must leave it here.

My presidential vote is still open. Not everyone has checked in yet, and some people could be a solid townread. Right now I like how Nixon is thinking but I don't know if I'd consider him for presidency.

[Theodore Roosevelt]

so then what do you feel about this post?



shows that they purposely made a post with 4 different escape plans that they PRE THOUGHT OUT before posting it yet I don't see you addressing that

I already claimed the reaosning behind my post - love how it wasn't addressed and is being brushed back further =P I feel a big scum drive behind it.

and if anyone thinks anyone is being "hard pressured" today, just.. lol

[Theodore Roosevelt]

“Saving for later” is not a train of thought. What you say about making scum’s nervous is true in the case where you actually replied with part of your read, but not true in the general case of somebody just saying “saving to respond to this later” as JFK did

because it results in meta that isnt to be mentioned in the game. I brushed over it, the post was to be cited after the game. Placed it here to point it out when I had the thought. If you are going to tunnel at me all game for it then do it lol give the scums the wifom

[Barack Obama]

so then what do you feel about this post?



shows that they purposely made a post with 4 different escape plans that they PRE THOUGHT OUT before posting it yet I don't see you addressing that

This just feels more like a meta thing. I don't see that post as an escape plan. But it shows that they are actively thinking about what they say.

I agree with the previous assertion that this slot is probably a PR or neutral of some kind.

i totally didn't just forget this post existed

[Richard Nixon]

so then what do you feel about this post?



shows that they purposely made a post with 4 different escape plans that they PRE THOUGHT OUT before posting it yet I don't see you addressing that

You’re insisting he thought about this before he had made the previous post which you replied to. It seems to me that he came up with these 4 ideas AFTER you replied to his earlier post as a way of showing that your post was shit

[Barack Obama]

WE WILL MAKE AMERiCA GREAT AGAIN!!!

I was waiting for this post but the uncapitalized i in America ruined it for me.

You will forever be mafia in my eyes.

-vote Donald Trump

[John Kennedy]

Good vibe from that slot. Didn't seem to be scumpainting or trying to manipulate scenarios at all. still put light pressure on people. I shall follow Abraham Lincoln to the ends of this world!! On the other hand, we got Truman over here and nixon scumpainting everyone and yet not interacting with each other. JFK, somewhat opportunistic but feel it's a town slot. But, a presidential slot is not a confirmed town slot. If all hell breaks loose and we think we made a mistake, can always lynch/assassinate em.

Now, you seem to be pushing for the presidential vote for yourself; who do you think should be president here?

come on. He has shitposted. OF COURSE HE DIDN'T TWIST ANYTHING, HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!

That discredit though

Okay, is that buddying, trying to get out of your quite bad situation or legitimate town thoughts?

[Theodore Roosevelt]

This just feels more like a meta thing. I don't see that post as an escape plan. But it shows that they are actively thinking about what they say.

I agree with the previous assertion that this slot is probably a PR or neutral of some kind.

i totally didn't just forget this post existed

PR or neutral? why not a mafia

[Theodore Roosevelt]

You’re insisting he thought about this before he had made the previous post which you replied to. It seems to me that he came up with these 4 ideas AFTER you replied to his earlier post as a way of showing that your post was shit

yes, and u are insisting I made my post with some plan to "scum read" you later in the game. lol

[Barack Obama]

come on. He has shitposted. OF COURSE HE DIDN'T TWIST ANYTHING, HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!

That discredit though

Okay, is that buddying, trying to get out of your quite bad situation or legitimate town thoughts?

That seems like it would be very shitty buddying.

[Barack Obama]

PR or neutral? why not a mafia

Don't think a mafia would make that post.

[Theodore Roosevelt]

come on. He has shitposted. OF COURSE HE DIDN'T TWIST ANYTHING, HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!

That discredit though

Okay, is that buddying, trying to get out of your quite bad situation or legitimate town thoughts?

nah, good feeling about the slot. how about you name who u want to vote for president?

[Barack Obama]

yes, and u are insisting I made my post with some plan to "scum read" you later in the game. lol

Why scumread him later when you have stated you scumread him now?

so far I see Nixon and Truman popping in doing lots of discrediting and preventing people from playing anything out (thus preventing reads). if this is how you are scum hunting... not a very good strategy.

Or have you forgotten you scumread him?

[Barack Obama]

nah, good feeling about the slot. how about you name who u want to vote for president?

Why are you so insistent on addressing the president vote while literally <60% of the playerbase has checked in?

Are you a sponsor?

[Richard Nixon]

because it results in meta that isnt to be mentioned in the game. I brushed over it, the post was to be cited after the game. Placed it here to point it out when I had the thought. If you are going to tunnel at me all game for it then do it lol give the scums the wifom

No tunneling for it, if you just meant to refer to it after the gsme that’s different obviously. It just didn’t seem that way when you initially posted about it (you responded right after saying you were townreading jfk for it....). But I guess I’ll take your word for it since it looks like you thought it was a blink MM interaction as you said a few posts back.

[Theodore Roosevelt]

Why scumread him later when you have stated you scumread him now?



Or have you forgotten you scumread him?

You are not following this are you? After that post he immediately jumped at me pushing why I am scum reading him (which i never did) UNTIL I watched how he was reacting to not getting the info right away. go back and read the damn thread lol

[Barack Obama]

Are you a sponsor?

You're a shitty sponsor if so.

[Donald Trump]

I was waiting for this post but the uncapitalized i in America ruined it for me.

You will forever be mafia in my eyes.

-vote Donald Trump

In my opinion Obama was a terrible president
I will be the greatest president God has ever created!

[Theodore Roosevelt]

Why are you so insistent on addressing the president vote while literally <60% of the playerbase has checked in?

Are you a sponsor?

because that is the main purpose for today. may as well start getting some ideas in place. Do I expect them to change? yes. but early read information out always leads to interesting topics.

[Richard Nixon]

You are not following this are you? After that post he immediately jumped at me pushing why I am scum reading him (which i never did) UNTIL I watched how he was reacting to not getting the info right away. go back and read the damn thread lol

I think you’re confusing me with Truman now. YOU go back and read it lol

[Barack Obama]

You are not following this are you? After that post he immediately jumped at me pushing why I am scum reading him (which i never did) UNTIL I watched how he was reacting to not getting the info right away. go back and read the damn thread lol

You should cut the shitty attitude.

In my eyes his "jumping on you" is completely valid because your townread on Lincoln appears to be completely unfounded. I understand gut reads but dude you cannot just call it a "gut read" and say that's it. It reads like 30 IQ executioner play.

[Barack Obama]

I think you’re confusing me with Truman now. YOU go back and read it lol

This is why I picked this avatar. Can't confuse me with anyone!

[Theodore Roosevelt]

You should cut the shitty attitude.

In my eyes his "jumping on you" is completely valid because your townread on Lincoln appears to be completely unfounded. I understand gut reads but dude you cannot just call it a "gut read" and say that's it. It reads like 30 IQ executioner play.

oh the irony.

nah I like the Lincoln slot