M-FM III Gamethread

[Luna]

Greetings, and welcome aboard the Battlestar Galactica!

Humanity is a vast and prosperous race, spread out over twelve planets and allied under the government of the Twelve Colonies, with the planet 'Caprica' being the centre of culture and political power within the system.

Forty years ago, the Humans created the Cylons. An advanced machine race, the Cylons were supposed to be our servants. They rebelled, and plunged the Twelve Colonies into a bitter conflict. An armistice was eventually signed, and the machine race of walking robots left human space. The inherent distrust of computers and machines was soon lessened, as humanity began to grow lax in peacetime.

The Cylons, however, were not finished. They created human bodies for themselves; twelve models in all, hundreds of these Human lookalikes descended upon the Twelve Colonies and infiltrated every level of society. These children of humanity knew that their parents could not change their violent ways and therefore sought to launch a pre-emptive strike which would annihilate all of humanity in one fell swoop. One of the human models, a number Six, gained access to the Ministry of Defence mainframe via the seduction of Dr. Gaius Baltar (a scientific prodigy, a flamboyant and decadent man who was overseeing the update of the whole defence system).

This model number Six spread a Cylon virus through every line of code in the system. When the Cylons attacked they could neutralise all opposition at the flick of a switch; entire squadrons of fighters lost power before they could engage the Cylon fleet, and Cylon 'basestars' were left free to cleanse the entire system. Each of the Twelve Colonies suffered at the hands of the Cylons, dozens of nuclear detonations pounded every planet, and the Cylons quickly occupied their new territory.

All was not lost for Humanity, however. One of the twelve 'Battlestars' (super-heavy military cruisers) had survived the initial strike; the Battlestar Galactica. This particular Battlestar, under the command of Commander William Adama and Colonel Saul Tigh, had actually just been decommissioned by the military. An antique ship, a relic from the previous Cylon war, the Battlestar Galactica had no ship-wide computer network. By having no central mainframe and relying solely upon the work of the men and woman of the crew, this Battlestar was unaffected by the Cylon virus. The Cylon attack occurred during the decommissioning ceremony, where the ship would be turned into a museum and school. Attending the ceremony was Secretary for Education Laura Roslin, amongst other notable figures.

As the Battlestar Galactica prepared for war, Laura Roslin took command of the luxury space cruiser that she and many others had taken as transport to the Battlestar decommissioning ceremony. She began rounding up as many survivors of the attack as she could, and soon had a large convoy of civilian ships following her. When word came that the President of the Twelve Colonies and the rest of the Presidential Cabinet were dead, Laura Roslin was sworn in as President and her cruiser changed its identity to 'Colonial One'.

At their rendezvous at Ragnar Station (where the Battlestar Galactica had gone to re-arm and re-supply), the new President convinced Commander Adama that the war was already lost. The Battlestar Galactica, herding its civilian fleet of 50,000 survivors, began the long flight away from the Cylons and towards whatever future awaited them. Their plan; to find the legendary 'Thirteenth Colony', one of the founding tribes which didn't settle with the other twelve but headed out and settled on a far-away planet called 'Earth'.

On their heels are the Cylons; unbeknownst to Commander Adama, members of his crew are actually Cylons in disguise. Their intent is unknown; some do not know they are even Cylons.

There have also been disgruntled rumblings in the crew bays and mess halls... a tired and disillusioned crew is growing weary of their fate, of being the underdogs with no hope of promotion or advancement. A mutiny is afoot, and soon it will engulf the whole of Battlestar Galactica unless the Loyalists can bring the perpetrators to justice.

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Role List:


Detective
Lookout
(Hidden Loyalist Power Role)
(Hidden Loyalist Power Role)
(Hidden Loyalist Power Role)
(Hidden Loyalist Power Role)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
(Hidden Neutral Role)
Cylon Traitor - Sharon Valerii "Boomer"
Cylon - Caprica Six
Cylon - D'Anna Beirs
Cylon Sleeper Agent
(Hidden Mutineer Role)
(Hidden Mutineer Role)
(Hidden Mutineer Role)
(Hidden Mutineer Role)


Possible Loyalist Power Roles: Bus Driver, Lookout, Detective, Coroner, Doctor, Armoursmith, Escort, Gunsmith, Journalist, Mortician, Whore, Cop, Insane Cop, Medical Student

Possible Mutineer Roles: Consort, Framer, Marine (Mafioso), Drug Dealer, Consigliere, Janitor, Blackmailer, Actress, Fabricator

Possible Neutral Roles: Witch, Executioner, Corrupt Journalist, Jester


Loyalists: See the Mutineers and Cylons lynched or killed at night (Cylon Traitor does not count towards this goal).
Mutineers: See the Loyalists and Cylons lose.
Cylons: Get more kills than the other Cylon. If this objective is achieved, bonus points will be awarded for killing all power roles.
Sleeper Agent: Wins with the Loyalists, is Loyalist-aligned in every respect.
Cylon Traitor: Kill a Power Role during the day.
Witch: Survive until the end of the game. Can win with Mafia.
Executioner: See your Loyalist target lynched. If your target dies at night, you become a Jester.
Jester: Get yourself lynched during the day.
Corrupt Journalist: Wins with the Mafia or any neutrals (including Cylons).

Player List:



1. CmG
2. Dust
3. Kromos
4. wolfcheese
5. Sumikoko
6. Ubernox
7. Zane
8. Borkbot
9. RandomNumbers0
10. Goremancer
11. TheWaaagh
12. Deathfire123
13. divemaster127
14. Zack
15. jaczac
16. Rocshi
17. Mopin
18. Escaho
19. CaptainUsopp
20. Sir William Wallace

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Here are some notable rules:

1) Each thread will start during the DAY.
2) Once the time limit is up, or a lynch has been hammered, the day will end. If a lynch is hammered while I am not present, the lynch will be locked but day chat may still continue. Once I post in the thread declaring the end of the day, you may not post in the thread anymore.
3) All night actions must be PM'd to me here, on Luna.
4) Obviously you may not talk about this game outside of the day/night threads, or outside of dead chat.
5) Anyone attempting to interfere with this game from the outside, or any griefing from the players, will be noted and your participance in future FM games will be unlikely.
6) If you have any questions, PM them to me directly. I will update the Q/A section in the FAQ thread on a regular basis, be sure to check there regularly.

Read this:

Hello everyone, I hope you all enjoy M-FMIII! For those of you that haven't seen this fantastic series, don't worry you won't need to know anything and there aren't any major spoilers. For those of you that have seen the series, you'll understand that I can't really do justice to the plot so we'll have to make do with a quick summary and just have our own thematic storyline

Everyone has their own RP name associated with their role. Under no circumstances must this RP name be revealed. You may not discuss your secondary objectives at all, except in night chat if you have it. Also note that the secondary objectives are not all of a similar balance; they are there for thematic style and a bit of fun, some of them are hard. A couple of you have also been told of another RP characters existence in the game, and possibly their role; this is intentional, but revealing this information is considered discussing your secondary objective and is completely forbidden. You may of course discuss the show and its characters, but please make no attempt to claim your RP character. It may be detrimental to you, and not all characters will have the role and alignment you might think they should have.

Quorum Elections:

Today, you may vote for your Quorum representatives! The Quorum is the presidential cabinet, democratically elected, and you may elect TWO candidates for this position. There is no limit that must be reached - the two candidates with the highest number of votes will be elected at the end of the day, any draws will be settled by random.org.

You may therefore vote twice today. One of your votes should be in bold and green, and the other should be in bold and in red. For example:

-vote Luna
-vote Chuck Norris

You must tally your votes in Cyan like this:

Vote Tally:

Luna (1) - Luna
Chuck Norris (1) - Luna

You may not vote for yourself, you may not vote for the same person twice.

The power of the Quorum members are as follows:

- The Quorum members may talk at night
- The Quorum members each have a voting power of 2, but this is only in effect if the Quorum members both vote to lynch the same person; this means that a total of 4 votes will be added to a lynch if both members vote
- If one Quorum member dies, the other retains their voting power of 2 and may use it on whoever he/she wishes

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Questions:

As per normal, it is difficult for a host to remember to include everything. Please PM me any questions you may have and I will answer them anonymously in the Q/A section of my FAQ thread. For any grumbling about balance, well, I will not respond; I can't change things on the fly, but if there is a technical query I will respond.

Welcome, everyone, to Battlestar Galactica. So Say We All.

The Day will end around 1pm GMT, 24th December.

[Dust]

Okay let's get started, people

[jaczac]

I would like to be put in the runnig for president
I claim citizen and will serve the Galactica well.
Thank you.

[Rocshi]

HELLOOOOOOO EVERYBODY.

I would ALSO like to nominate myself for the Quorum.

[wolfcheese]

*steps up on podium*

I do not want to be elected

*gets off of podium*

Just like the good ol' days.

[Sumikoko]

Haha, Wolf, so modest as always.
-puts on reporter glasses-
Sir, a comment or two? Picture? Look over here! Sir!

[CmG]

Hi guys, I am here to save the day from those pesky cylon lovers. Everybody could be a cylon so we have to be sure to elect the right persons for it.

Plan A: Human PR reveals today will get elected and will be checked tonight if he tells the truth. The 2. elected person isn't that important because if this thing goes right we will never have the need of the extra votes anyway and it's good enough if those extra votes doesn't come in evil hands. Claiming 2 PR roles right now is too risky because we don't know how many kill preventer we have.


hm you know citizens getting elected is kinda risky? 6 citizens , 1 is a sleeper agent= 18,3% chance from start to be a murderer. If he dies your chance rises to become the next to 20% to 25% to 33% ...
= BAD IDEA!

Feel free to vote me! I will do my best to win this with you or against you depends on your alignment.

[Rocshi]

Haha, Wolf, so modest as always.
-puts on reporter glasses-
Sir, a comment or two? Picture? Look over here! Sir!

Are you claiming journalist?
Just wondering.

[wolfcheese]

Stop stalking me

This is probably naive but Ima gonna start the votes by voting on the past two mvps I want to put these here because its the end of the day and I might not be around much tomorrow.

-vote Dust
-vote jaczac

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (1) - wolfcheese

[CmG]

Plan B: every day 2 citizen have to reveal and get checked if they are killers. after 3 Days we know who the sleeper agent is and can roleblock him any night to keep the casualties as low as possible. If the Mutineers have a consort on their team i highly suggest helping us against the sleeper agent thread.

Your framer doesn't want all those citizens dead or he has some problems hiding problems.

[Rocshi]

starting day now is terrible for EU. perfect for US though.
wait that means nothing will happen until I go to sleep.

[CmG]

Plan B: every day 2 citizen have to reveal and get checked if they are killers. after 3 Days we know who the sleeper agent is and can roleblock him any night to keep the casualties as low as possible. If the Mutineers have a consort on their team i highly suggest helping us against the sleeper agent threat.

Your framer doesn't want all those citizens dead or he has some problems hiding problems.

Keep in mind that the other PR roles can still search for the Mutineers and get them lynched as fast as possible.

[BorkBot]

hm you know citizens getting elected is kinda risky? 6 citizens , 1 is a sleeper agent= 18,3% chance from start to be a murderer. If he dies your chance rises to become the next to 20% to 25% to 33% ...
= BAD IDEA!

But a sleeper agent isn't an evil role. They must still try to win with us, the Cylons can't kill them by themselves (unless Cylons can use their Agent to commit suicide?). In fact, the citizens being kept alive is what protects us from double kills by Cylon Serial Killers.

The only risk that exists is Cylons claiming to be Citizens. There's no real way to discover the Cylons, is there?

[Escaho]

Hey all, FM newbie, reporting for duty!

Time to get the ball rolling!

So say we all.

[Goremancer]

so quorum is the town leader right? who is nominating again?

[Escaho]

so quorum is the town leader right? who is nominating again?

Sort of. Quorum consists of two people. If they both vote to lynch the same person, their votes count as 2 votes (so, a combined vote by both people will result in a vote of 4). I assume individual votes are 1 if they are not directed at the same person. However, if one of the Quorum dies, the remaining member will always a voting power of 2.

[CmG]

But a sleeper agent isn't an evil role. They must still try to win with us, the Cylons can't kill them by themselves (unless Cylons can use their Agent to commit suicide?). In fact, the citizens being kept alive is what protects us from double kills by Cylon Serial Killers.

The only risk that exists is Cylons claiming to be Citizens. There's no real way to discover the Cylons, is there?

No he is not evil. But everytime a citizen dies you have to check your elected citizen again if he is now a sleeper agent. That's BAD If he isn't the sleeper agent from start.

There is an easy way to find them. It's called wordchecking in day chat. Cylons have a hard day to hide their nature in day chat. If they want garanteed control over the sleeper they have to outweight the other Cylon with the codeword multiple time.

Just keep looking for words who get repeated. Avoid names, roles and other stuff in your posts or you will be getting suspicious.

IF WE ALL GONNA DO THIS WE WILL FIND THE EVILS PRETTY FAST!.

[Rocshi]

So far, me, Jaczac, and CmG have expressed interest in running for Quorum.

I agree with CmG that we can't put a cit up on the stand, in case they're a Sleeper.

[Luna]

I have just been asked a very good question, which merits a quick host announcement.

The Cylons do have code phrases today, and will be using them to gain control of the sleeper agent tonight.

Edit: Also this is my new Host colour, no one else may use this colour.

And no one else may edit their posts, of course.

[Goremancer]

Well I"m not really sure but I"ll -vote Rocshi for now. DaBarbarian. I'll keep my vote until someone persuades me to change it.

[CmG]

I have just been asked a very good question, which merits a quick host announcement.

The Cylons do have code phrases today, and will be using them to gain control of the sleeper agent tonight.

Edit: Also this is my new Host colour, no one else may use this colour.

And no one else may edit their posts, of course.

Didn't know that. so i will adapt now. Is it the same with the Traitor then Luna?

[jaczac]

I vote wejust have a lookout look me and ill be cleared tomorrow.

Its fine, unless the cylon does no action and then well know im the sleeper and rb me, unless he knows well do this and...
wifom, dammit.

ALSO

do the cylon know the sleeper agent?

[Goremancer]

oops I meant to vote him as quorom not to be lynched. I guess that would be green? -vote Rocshi

[CmG]

I vote wejust have a lookout look me and ill be cleared tomorrow.

Its fine, unless the cylon does no action and then well know im the sleeper and rb me, unless he knows well do this and...
wifom, dammit.

ALSO

do the cylon know the sleeper agent?

and then? if a citizen dies you could change into the sleeper agent and the detective would have to check you again. not cool

[Rocshi]

I'll -vote jaczacand -vote CmG for now also. I might go to bed soon anyway.

I'll lurk a little for now.

@Goremancer

For Quorum- you vote twice, cause 2 members
first is red
second is lime

[Kromos]

Why would a sleeper agent be bad to elect? They win with town, the only difference is that they are controlled to kill every night unless I'm wrong?

[Luna]

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (2) - wolfcheese, Rocshi
Rocshi (1) - Goremancer
CmG (1) - Rocshi

A reminder to keep the vote tally updated and in Cyan so it can be easily found.

Didn't know that. so i will adapt now. Is it the same with the Traitor then Luna?

No, the Traitor has not picked her target/kill words yet.

do the cylon know the sleeper agent?

No (edited, I forgot I changed it).

- Host out, from now on PM me a question if you really want an answer.

[jaczac]

yeah, im fine if i am sleeper.
i win with u guys... so im no different than any other citizens

[BorkBot]

Alright, good to know. Thanks be to ye, Moon.

And as CmG has already said, Rocshi, a sleeper mayor would be great. If they're found, they can simply be blocked for all eternity.

Randomly putting someone up there who just seems cool in your book is worse than a someone saying they're a cit.

[CmG]

Why would a sleeper agent be bad to elect? They win with town, the only difference is that they are controlled to kill every night unless I'm wrong?

If you know who it is its ok because you can block him every night and if town can't stop him from killing the mafia could do it. In their own interest. You just have to block him and heal him because the baddies would hit him so they could soften up the town roles.

Keep in mind the predators will post more per day unlike in the other M-FM games so far to get a better chance to spam their code.

[TheWaaagh]

In terms of who to vote for, I disagree about the risk the sleeper agent poses. They don't know they're a sleeper agent, and they'd be loyalist aligned anyway, so it's not like they'd use their power to not lynch a confirmed cylon or mafia member.

There is one problem with voting a citizen into power though, and that's the fact that the two people that win get their own night chat to strategize. Putting two citizens into power and having them share a night chat is... not as ideal as two town power roles. Unfortunately, we can't confirm that anyone is a power role today, so I think it might be best if we just opt to not vote for the citizens into power.

[Kromos]

Night chat could be extremely useful for two town PRs to coordinate their actions.

[BorkBot]

For now..

-vote jaczac
-vote Sumikoko

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (3) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot
Rocshi (1) - Goremancer
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot

[TheWaaagh]

Lol I explain why voting cits in is a bad idea, and then BorkBot votes a claimed cit anyway.

[jaczac]

So, I might be a quorum member, but im reluctant to vote anyone else.no claims are here yet...

[Kromos]

I'm more open to electing unknown after last game with Zane. I don't see any scum trying to get elected unless it's their secondary objective.

[CmG]

It's useful for mafia too if they get elected together with a Town PR. They could fool town every day with that bond of trust.

Problem is TheWaaagh that you are scum again lol.

You know outing now 2 PR in a game where over half of the green guys are citizens is a bad idea. You have to proof first if both are TPR or not be4 you even could use the night chat for something like that.

1 PR and 1 random is good enough. Everything else is hard to achieve.

[Escaho]

Lol I explain why voting cits in is a bad idea, and then BorkBot votes a claimed cit anyway.

To be fair, you started your post off explaining why voting them in is a good idea, lol.

However, voting in two cits is not necessarily a bad idea. As Kromos stated, the citizens, even if one is a sleeper agent, will always be working in the best interests of the town. Although a Cylon may control one, the cits will still be helpful for town. They can also discuss strategy. If we do not vote in Cits, it opens the door to, statistically, vote in non-town roles.

[Rocshi]

Well, I could say I'll give you Bananas.

CAN I BE QUORUM
YOU GET BANANAS

#lastgamelogic

[CmG]

I'm more open to electing unknown after last game with Zane. I don't see any scum trying to get elected unless it's their secondary objective.

This was more luck then anything. If it would have been randomnumbers0, zack or deathfire123 you would have all hit the bucket

[RandomNumbers0]

slleper agent want the town to win, right?
-vote jaczac
-vote Roschi

[jaczac]

I'm more open to electing unknown after last game with Zane. I don't see any scum trying to get elected unless it's their secondary objective.

you raise a good point kromos.

I might be hurting my campaign, but i might be a scum claiming cit. who knows?
I might have it a secondary objective as quorum and be overly eager. so you cant be so sure.
we need claims other than a cit. i would suggest a PR and a cit to have some balance and certianity.

[Kromos]

Voting cits would also create more PRs for the town. If a PR / mayor dies we would lose two PRs so at the moment I am willing to get behind jaczac.

vote jaczac

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (5) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot

[RandomNumbers0]

im cit, so im out ^^

EDIT, how many votes needed?

[BorkBot]

I think voting in one Citizen and one non-Citizen is the way to go. That way the evils can't coordinate with a Battlestar PR to act against Battlestar itself under any circumstances.

[Rocshi]

I also am a pretty good role to have as Mayor, I see potential for usefulness there.

[Goremancer]

go with the flow -vote jaczac

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (6) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot

[Kromos]

This was more luck then anything. If it would have been randomnumbers0, zack or deathfire123 you would have all hit the bucket

No scum tried to get elected last game (except maybe me) so it wasn't luck that we got a town mayor.

[TheWaaagh]

As of right now I'm going to vote Kromos because he's been making minimalist posts (meaning he's less likely to be a Cylon) and he seems open to reason. Also because I feel bad trying to get him lynched every game.

vote Kromos

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (6) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh

Got some responses before I could post so let me explain. To Escaho, my thing about Sleeper Agents wasn't an endorsement of voting them in, it was just me trying to explain that they're not the enemy this game, and I didn't want us to waste time worrying about having to hunt them down. We've all seen what can happen to a game if the mechanics are different than normal and the town doesn't know where to focus their attentions.

To CmG, I'm not asking for town roles to claim, I'm just saying that we shouldn't vote for the citizens. Right now the biggest advantage of a quorum member is the night chat, as we all saw last game the mayor's bump in votes doesn't really do much, and both members have to vote for the same person to get a bonus in this game. So yeah, having two cits discuss shit at night doesn't really do as much for us since they can't formulate any kind of real plan.

OH MY GOD LET ME POST!

[CmG]

Well if you wanna vote after who was good and who was evil last game. You will regret it probably ^^

I think if the Mafia has a framer (detection immune) he would try to get elected right now. Another point against the cits