S-FM The Cold War III

[naz]

aamruis seems to not address me. < noting this

Arrr, ye send shivers down her booties...wait wrong game lol

[Fielzanks]

@TheGodDavid , @Fielzanks , @Marshmallow Marshall , @naz , @aamirus , @blinkskater , @Unknown1234 , who do you want to Lynch atm? explain.

rumox. I don't even have to write this; The reason I'm not voting him is because I'll be the one driving the train to lynch him at EoD and I don't want a lynch to happen till then.

[Fielzanks]

where? I did comment on the strategy post

I asked you 'What do you think about my TPR claim'

[DJarJar]

By using the same trail of thought as you. 'Hey, they claimed citizen, why would citizen do that? They should be TPR!'

???

Was that hard, lol?

Ah this one. Yea see this:

Because I don't see the logic of a cit claiming cit. I mean, fine there is WIFOM and maybe the mafia will think he was lying and hit him and he really is a cit.

But I think it is far more likely that a person claiming cit is an evil trying to avoid being visited.
Yes, a TPR could claim cit but I think that would be stupid, because again, cit claims that are not evil are probably TPRs and would likely be hit by the mafia.


Fine, i suppose u get into an infinite WIFOM loop there and perhaps a cit claim for a real cit is a valid move. It's ultimately 50/50 and I was only looking at it one way

[Unknown1234]

@TheGodDavid , @Fielzanks , @Marshmallow Marshall , @naz , @aamirus , @blinkskater , @Unknown1234 , who do you want to Lynch atm? explain.

Naz because of the lack of scum-hunting, disregarding people’s accusations on her using forms of insult and appealing to enotion heavily and using Blinkskater as a meat shield. (Notice how she never discouraged people from voting blink, likely because she’s fine if he’s lynched, if I’m right and blink is Town). I’m also okay voting MM, because of the way he has claimed me as neutral but I can tell he is indirectly trying to buddy with me. Not to mention that he is overly defending Naz from a lynch, and trying to push it on blinkskater (who I believe is being used as a meat shield). I think aamirus is an acceptable lynch, but far worse than these two because aamirus doesn’t appear to be manipulating anyone, but has been sheeping people’s ideas. I am not convinced this slot is scum, so I’d love to see more Reads from them because I believe they could be Town. I’d also lynch David, but definitely not now. I don’t think I’ve seen enough from him to consider it a viable lynch.

Blinkskater seems like a bad lynch, but his play is so god awful that it’s really hard not justifying a lynch on him. I don’t feel comfortable voting Magoroth, Lenneth, or rumox.

[DJarJar]

I asked you 'What do you think about my TPR claim'

Yea, i didn't think about WIFOM as much before. Your claim doesn't really mean much i guess

[Ganelon]

So the scum know who to attack...?

Bullshit and you know it lol. How did you go from 'Mag might be scum' to 'Mag is town 100%'. How do you even know that I and naz are town? Why do you town read people that some would say 'SUCK!' why you are scum reading people that are actually marginally useful? Which is kinda what happened at the beginnning to me in, in my opinion.

When did I say we had to mass claim? I said lynching D1 was good, or at least having intent to do so. It creates scumhunting. Not lynching D1 is a wasted day.

If I'm scum, I don't need to be saying that sweetie Scum have a night chat, no point revealing like this.

It's because your idea gives so much info to scum... You make 1: people claim 2: tell to scum WHO to shoot and give birth to an anti-town WIFOM. N O.

OK, so the idea is that we shouldn't be hunting for them... not that I ever said 'let's hunt for them'. I said 'should we force them to claim so we can't kill them?' -> not the same thing.
In any event. Moving on.

How would you "force them to claim"..? If you do that, what prevents them from simply claiming Mighty Proletarian (capitalists say shitizen) and side with scum right away?

You refuse to back down from that argument.

Indeed... out of Sleeper Agent? How is he that useful for us... he betrays us if he gets attacked.

smh you god dam scum

Notable blink post in reference to MM, first interaction between the two.

lol first 50 posts (except blink's post) are shit posts and people who can't read the setup and ask questions where the answer is in the setup.

smh.

first useful post:

anyway, too many questions before people have even posted. no role claiming. at least not right now. maybe my mind will change 24 hrs in but probably not.



like dis



we are not taking suggestions from Magoroth at this time. lol.



uhhh what there's cult in this save?!?


also saying rn: all my votes are w/intent to lynch, so give me teh information i require when i vote u or perish

Discredit without saying peeps are not town.

Blink is confirmed town.

Same idea here on roleclaiming.

Disagree. We want to lynch, because no lynch intent on a day = no activity, I know this for sure. No activity = no info and no reads, no info and no reads = no scum lynches, no scum lynches = no win, no win = no nudes. If you want nudes, we must at least start getting reads =) not saying we ABSOLUTELY have to lynch D1, but have the intent to do so.

Poor mag =(

Not exactly... But two town roles change to a not so pro-town role if they get attacked by capitalists.

I am *incredibly* scumreading you for this post.

I'm not sending you nudes unless you confirm that you're town sorry

Bullshit.

GDI STOP THAT!!!! YOU'RE GOING TO OUT EVERY TOWNIE AND EXPOSE THE TPRS

I don't like your reaction, it looks kind of fake to me...? Also why do you keep pressuring the newb?

sorry im new am I not suppose to say Im citizen

@naz I demand you confirm yourself as town, Or else I will Find You Scummy But A Null Read.

Booooollshit.

yeah you're third claim allready, anything you say in my eyes is essentially BS my vote is on you and it will stay there for being a big fat liar

I agree.

aamruis seems to not address me. < noting this

I've gathered some pretty interesting quotes from the beginning of the game.

[Unknown1234]

-unvote

[Unknown1234]

-vote blinkskater

I think I’ve mixed it up.

[Ganelon]

-vote blinkskater

I think I’ve mixed it up.

How do you mean?

[Unknown1234]

so we lynch naz she flips town then what? you go "oh man this doesn't add up i need to rethink my reads", seen that before, and based on the people playing in this game i dont think anyone would give up and not give a fuck as scum, everyone here takes t his seriously minus the AFK players and IMO would try and play logically and carefully as scum so go climb a tree

I’ve been looking at this situation wrong entirely. You’ve been doing exactly what I would be doing, which is buddying someone who is lynch bait in order to look Town after a flip.

I think I’ve solved this game.

[Ganelon]

I’ve been looking at this situation wrong entirely. You’ve been doing exactly what I would be doing, which is buddying someone who is lynch bait in order to look Town after a flip.

I think I’ve solved this game.

-vote blinkskater

[Ganelon]

-vote blinkskater

This I can get behind, makes perfect sense because I don't see a scum pushing this naz or Unknown Lynch (if one of the two is scum)

[Ganelon]

MM/Blink/(Fielzanks?) scum team lol

[Unknown1234]

How do you mean?

I can’t explain the exact moment where I decided to read specifically, but I know for a fact that blinkskater has been using Naz as a scapegoat. The key thing that sticks out to me is where he says he’d rather be lynched than lynch Naz. Blinkskater has been setting up for this lynch, and it kills me that I only realized this now.

Not only does he say this, but he also contradicts a serial killer claim by saying that the game wouldn’t make him serial killer twice. However, the way it’s phrased could be left with people thinking that it means he’s trying not to appear as the neutral, but at the same time the wording is implying not wanting to be lynched for the wrong reasons. I just realized now that Naz is definitely not scum, and honestly, when you flip the entire situation around, I’ve been able to see why blinkskater has been playing this way.

[Ganelon]

I agree to this lynch, but if blink is indeed scum, what would that make MM? It would likely make aamirus town.

[Unknown1234]

I don’t care how idiotic I appear at this point, but I want everyone to look at specific posts with it in mind that Naz is scum. If you pay close attention you can notice small notes that make it sound as if he’s waiting for blink to be lynched. I think the main reason I’ve noticed this now is when he voted me up with Naz. He chose someone who hasn’t been under a lot of fire because he WANTS Naz to be lynched, as it would only allow him to push the other side of the spectrum and lynch me for leading that lynch.

[Unknown1234]

I’m currently phone posting, but when I get home I will better outline what posts I’m referring to (have already mentioned some of them in the few previous posts).

[blinkskater]

I can’t explain the exact moment where I decided to read specifically, but I know for a fact that blinkskater has been using Naz as a scapegoat. The key thing that sticks out to me is where he says he’d rather be lynched than lynch Naz. Blinkskater has been setting up for this lynch, and it kills me that I only realized this now.

Not only does he say this, but he also contradicts a serial killer claim by saying that the game wouldn’t make him serial killer twice. However, the way it’s phrased could be left with people thinking that it means he’s trying not to appear as the neutral, but at the same time the wording is implying not wanting to be lynched for the wrong reasons. I just realized now that Naz is definitely not scum, and honestly, when you flip the entire situation around, I’ve been able to see why blinkskater has been playing this way.

Go home you're obviously drunk, I do not stand by a naz lynch nor will i stand by a naz lynch nor do i want a naz lynch you're ust making shit up now, only shred of truth in this is the part where you said naz is not scum, and If i'm neutral i will slice off my own balls and feed them to Fielz

[DJarJar]

I think aamirus is an acceptable lynch, but far worse than these two because aamirus doesn’t appear to be manipulating anyone, but has been sheeping people’s ideas. I am not convinced this slot is scum, so I’d love to see more Reads from them because I believe they could be Town.

I dunno how i am sheeping or having unoriginal ideas. I feel like MM being evil was my own idea before anybody else's. Blink too. I also said the rumox-naz fight (which has expanded to naz vs half the lobby now) is probably just out of game related saltposts. I also said blink buddying with naz is likely just his usual White Knighting. I asked Distorted 3 questions about setup that he hasn't replied to yet. I also just recently said that it's entirely possible all those fighting are town and the 4 quietest players are the evils.

I have a couple of original ideas why some people who have been getting scumread might be intentionally trying to get attacked but I think that discussing them ruins those plans.... (Has everyone read the list of all possible TPRs?)

[Ganelon]

I don’t care how idiotic I appear at this point, but I want everyone to look at specific posts with it in mind that Naz is scum. If you pay close attention you can notice small notes that make it sound as if he’s waiting for blink to be lynched. I think the main reason I’ve noticed this now is when he voted me up with Naz. He chose someone who hasn’t been under a lot of fire because he WANTS Naz to be lynched, as it would only allow him to push the other side of the spectrum and lynch me for leading that lynch.

Your idea makes sense to me because, if you recall, at one point I actually suggested that.

[Ganelon]

@naz you agree to a blinkskater Lynch?

[Ganelon]

Go home you're obviously drunk, I do not stand by a naz lynch nor will i stand by a naz lynch nor do i want a naz lynch you're ust making shit up now, only shred of truth in this is the part where you said naz is not scum, and If i'm neutral i will slice off my own balls and feed them to Fielz

Nah dude I agree with him, I don't see you randomly defending naz, especially after she's been scum read.

[blinkskater]

The conspiracy theorists are trying to run the town good luck trying to push a lynch on me

[blinkskater]

Nah dude I agree with him, I don't see you randomly defending naz, especially after she's been scum read.

ITS NOT FUCKING RANDOM, AND THE PEOPLE WHO SCUMREAD HER ARE YOU AND UNK, the two people who make the least amount of sense in the game

[blinkskater]

ITS NOT FUCKING RANDOM, AND THE PEOPLE WHO SCUMREAD HER ARE YOU AND UNK, the two people who make the least amount of sense in the game

but feel free to keep pushing my lynch, *throws popcorn to fielz*

[blinkskater]

i'ma shower yall better have all those juicy made up lies that im scum waiting for me when i get back, or i will be somewhat dissapointed

[Fielzanks]

@naz you agree to a blinkskater Lynch?

I know you're not mentioning me, but convince me to lynch Blink over you, please.

[Fielzanks]

i'ma shower yall better have all those juicy made up lies that im scum waiting for me when i get back, or i will be somewhat dissapointed

If you're neutral I'll chew on your balls before you have the time to feed them to me

[Ganelon]

I know you're not mentioning me, but convince me to lynch Blink over you, please.

I'll give you a snow cone?

[Ganelon]

@Unknown1234 , I think you hit the jackpot with the bblinkskater thing. makes a LOT of sense.

[Fielzanks]

Nah dude I agree with him, I don't see you randomly defending naz, especially after she's been scum read.

Actually Blink stated he would defend naz after quoting a certain post, said post and succession of event which made ME defend naz.

[Ganelon]

Actually Blink stated he would defend naz after quoting a certain post, said post and succession of event which made ME defend naz.

I do this all the time in the mod. Claim someone is town, Lynch the guy that wants them dead and when that guy flips town Lynch the guy you defended. ezpz.

[Ganelon]

I'm not moving my vote from blinkskater.

[DJarJar]

@naz I demand you confirm yourself as town, Or else I will Find You Scummy But A Null Read.

Lmao i love you naz you are confirmed town in my eyes ima buddy your ass hard

This in response to her saying eat my ass, and he has buddied since then. I feel like there was not a lot of logic there

[Unknown1234]

Actually Blink stated he would defend naz after quoting a certain post, said post and succession of event which made ME defend naz.

Explain to me why blinkskater has not been trying to lynch anyone else to me. Because even though he has his vote on me, he has not tried to lynch me at all. The only thing he’s done is attack my intelligence, but the only thing that would do is make me see those two as scum anyways.

Blink had no reason to vote me, other than the fact that I’ve been voting up Naz. His exact words were “too townie to be Town” which isn’t an argument.

[DJarJar]

Here's the post blink was replying to

eat my asshole
the only time u will ever get any

[Fielzanks]

Explain to me why blinkskater has not been trying to lynch anyone else to me. Because even though he has his vote on me, he has not tried to lynch me at all. The only thing he’s done is attack my intelligence, but the only thing that would do is make me see those two as scum anyways.

Blink had no reason to vote me, other than the fact that I’ve been voting up Naz. His exact words were “too townie to be Town” which isn’t an argument.

I don't think that Blink's vote are with intent to lynch that far away from EoD. He's demonstrating that you're his FoS. I believe, if I understand his line of play, that he's not actually voting you only based on the 'too townie to be town' case as that would be risky at least, but for another forseen reason which you play into (which could transition into him brigading town to vote you at EoD though)

[Ganelon]

@blinkskater , you've been a lot less active ever since we came across this idea. Why is that?

[Fielzanks]

Here's the post blink was replying to

I'll be hard to understand but that's basically a meta call on naz on Blink's part. He saw something which town naz would do 100% of the time and went with it.

[Fielzanks]

I still don't know why you're asking me about Blink defense; I suppose I'm less aggressive ? Yeah, I have been very convenient this game.

[Unknown1234]

What?

[Unknown1234]

I'll be hard to understand but that's basically a meta call on naz on Blink's part. He saw something which town naz would do 100% of the time and went with it.

So you think they’re both town?

I need to know why you’re not pushing/putting pressure on rumox. You said you were waiting for End if day to do it, but that comes across as opportunistic and how you’re trying to form a lynch train within the last few chaotic hours of the day. Explain it now because it’s reeking of scummy intention.

[Fielzanks]

So you think they’re both town?

I need to know why you’re not pushing/putting pressure on rumox. You said you were waiting for End if day to do it, but that comes across as opportunistic and how you’re trying to form a lynch train within the last few chaotic hours of the day. Explain it now because it’s reeking of scummy intention.

Because attention on rumox already took 1/4 of the day, so putting more oil into the fire would make the chat way more chaotic and I see no point in doing that. Also said rumox is AWOL and you were the one not putting pressure on aamriaus because she wasnt on (and picked on me because I did) so w/e. Closer to EoD is where REAL pressure is put and where vote patterns and alignment matters the most, which is the most important situation to exploit.

[Unknown1234]

Because attention on rumox already took 1/4 of the day, so putting more oil into the fire would make the chat way more chaotic and I see no point in doing that. Also said rumox is AWOL and you were the one not putting pressure on aamriaus because she wasnt on (and picked on me because I did) so w/e. Closer to EoD is where REAL pressure is put and where vote patterns and alignment matters the most, which is the most important situation to exploit.

Two things to comment on this

The first being that while I did wait for aamirus to be active to engage in discussion with them, rumox has been around, while you’ve had this argument with you. So I don’t know why you’re saying that you didn’t get the chance.

Secondly, yes, it makes sense to look at Vote patterns but it’s also pointless to not pressure anyone else and wait until the EOD to push aamirus. The whole idea of that to me seems like you’re trying to take advantage of that situation.

You didn’t answer whether you thought both blink and Naz are Town.

[Fielzanks]

Two things to comment on this

The first being that while I did wait for aamirus to be active to engage in discussion with them, rumox has been around, while you’ve had this argument with you. So I don’t know why you’re saying that you didn’t get the chance.

Secondly, yes, it makes sense to look at Vote patterns but it’s also pointless to not pressure anyone else and wait until the EOD to push aamirus. The whole idea of that to me seems like you’re trying to take advantage of that situation.

You didn’t answer whether you thought both blink and Naz are Town.

They're both in green parts of my list of reads, so it seems like I'm thinking they can be both town pretty easily. Blink townread hard Naz for the exact same reason as me, and that's not a reason for me to want to lynch him day 1.

[blinkskater]

@blinkskater , you've been a lot less active ever since we came across this idea. Why is that?

Maybe because you guys solved the puzzle! well done you and unknown are the heros this town needs

[blinkskater]

Here's the post blink was replying to

a master plan amrite?

[Unknown1234]

They're both in green parts of my list of reads, so it seems like I'm thinking they can be both town pretty easily. Blink townread hard Naz for the exact same reason as me, and that's not a reason for me to want to lynch him day 1.

I have no idea what you’ve seen or believe has happened, so I can’t make any argument towards that. I think that actually makes the buddying scenario more logical.

Putting that aside for the moment, talk to me about how blinkskater has been pro-Town.

Blinkskater, do you currently scum-read anyone outside of the people voting you and Naz?

[blinkskater]

@Fielzanks you think rumox is the best lynch? even tho MM is not acting like his usual self, Mag/Unk i'm not even sure what they are doing tbh, Also the first game you played (i was in it also), before i even revealed my thoughts, you posted similiar reads to them, almost spot on and i heavily townread you for that, i have the same feelings this game