S-FM French Revoultion

[Noz_Bugz]

The French Revoultion
Liberté, égalité, fraternité!

RoleList
Robespierre
Jacobin Member
Jacobin Member
Jacobin Member
Jacobin Member
Jacobin Member
Jacobin Radical
King Louis XVI
Monarchist
Assembly Member/Jacobin Member
Assembly Member/Jacobin Radical
Napoleon Bonaparte

Wincons
Robespierre,Jacobin Members and Jacobin Radicals-See King Louis and the Monarchists eliminated
King Louis and Monarchist-See Robespierre and The Jacobins elminiated or be in a position where this cannot be stopped
Assembly Member-Choose a side, you will lose if you have not picked a side by the end of the game
Napoloen Bonaparte-See King Louis and Robespierre dead by any means, you can win with either side as long as this is fulfilled
Role Cards
Robespierre
You can reveal for an extra vote You will not be informed if assembly member joins your side
Jacobin Member
Normal Citizen .
Jacobin Radical
You have a one shot gun, if you shoot a Jacobin you will die from guilt
King Louis XVI
You know who your fellow monarchists are. You can shoot someone killing them. You share a night chat with them
Monarchist
Normal Goon.. You share a night chat with your fellow Monarchists and King Louis.
Assembly Member
You may choose a side at any point the game or stay neutral and survive
Napoloen Bonaparte
See Robespierre and King Louis Lynched to make yourself Emperor of France. You can kill one person per a night. You are night immune

Order of Operations
They go at the same time so it is possible for Louis to shoot Bonaparte and Bonaparte shoot Louis

Mechanics
Lynch is mandatory, who ever has majorty EOD is lynched and if there is a tie it is RNGd
Day is 48 hours
Night is 24 hours
Rules of Conduct
No excessive swearing
Don't gamethrow
Don't communcaite out of game
Please post 5 times an in game day, the Revolution needs you!
No limits on pictures or links, just keep it PG-13

this is probably terribly unbalanced but hey, it's worth a shot
Also I cannot host this but if anybody does want to host if they can
Changelog
Added another Monarchist, changed win conditions of Robespierre and added "You will not be informed if revoultionary joins your side" to Louis and Robespierre
added rules on conduct
Changed Revoultionary to Assembly Member
Added a wincon section
Updated rules of conduct, Got rid of the guessing for Robespierre and instead gave them a 3 shot gun which can only be used at night, Gave the 3 shot gun to Louis. removed an Assembly Member, gave Napoloen Bonaparte a night kill ability. Added 2 Jacobin Members and removed a Monarchist. Gave Monarchists a one shot gun. Updated Order of Operations. Made Monarchists Scum. Gave Night Immunity to Napoloen Bonaparte
Changed Robespierre, got rid of his gun in favor of a extra vote if he reveals
-Added Jacobin Radical, a one shot vigi. changed assembly member wincon to "Choose a side, you will lose if you have not picked a side by the end of the game", removed a monarchist, removed their ability to shoot, gave Louis infinite shots, changed the two assembly member slots to Assembly Member/Jacobin Member and Assembly Member/Jacobin Radical
-made wincons clearer

[OzyWho]

Robespierre is stronger and also has more followers.
Even Robespierre followers know who he is while Louis followers don't know who Louis is.

I agree - some balance issues.

Btw. See Robespierre and King Louis Lynched to make yourself Emperor of France - is that about Napoleon? How can this ever happen if either one of them gets lynched then the other wins automatically?

[Noz_Bugz]

Robespierre is stronger and also has more followers.
Even Robespierre followers know who he is while Louis followers don't know who Louis is.

I agree - some balance issues.

Btw. See Robespierre and King Louis Lynched to make yourself Emperor of France - is that about Napoleon? How can this ever happen if either one of them gets lynched then the other wins automatically?

I'll probably make rospierre have to gete rid of the other monarchists, updating soon

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Omg I gotta read this in some hours lol

[Noz_Bugz]

Updated the thread, added a Monarchist and tweaked rospierre abit

[Ganelon]

I like this setup.

[Noz_Bugz]

Added rules on conduct

[Noz_Bugz]

I like this setup.

Also any other feedback other than you like it.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

What prevents ReVOLUTionaries from all joining one side and winning... plus it's not even correct from History side, revolutionaries were against the monarchy lol.

This is like "two towns" fighting eachother with random survivors joining the same side and winning.


Make the Monarchists scums, what about that? This setup cannot work without scums anyway, three wildcards is too much. Also what is Robespierre's exact win condition? Kill Louis XVI or kill all the Monarchists? What's the goal of having a Robespierre and a Louis XVI then, glorified citizens?

[SuperJack]

From what I gather, there are two teams, pluss some extra which have to choose which side they want to be on.

I do not get this part of the rolecard though

You may guess who King Louis is and lynch him 3 times per a game if you guess correctly you and your fellow Jacobins win if you get rid of the rest of the Monarchists.

also wincons need to be made clear.

[Noz_Bugz]

Agreed, need to make win cons clearer, I'll porbably put them in a separate section

[Noz_Bugz]

You may guess who King Louis is and lynch him 3 times per a game if you guess correctly you and your fellow Jacobins win if you get rid of the rest of the Monarchists.

This is basically him guessing, I'll probably nix this ability as it kinda doesn't make sense

[Noz_Bugz]

Made wincons in their seperate section and renamed Revoultionary to Assembly Member

[OzyWho]

Wincons
Robespierre and Jacobin Members-See King Louis and the Monarchists Lynched
King Louis and Monarchist-See Robespierre and The Jacobins Lynched

Napoloen Bonaparte
See Robespierre and King Louis Lynched to make yourself Emperor of France

How can Napoleon win? He needs them both lynched, but if either one of them gets lynched then the other one wins and Napoleon can't lynch that other one. (Also changing Napoloen Bonaparte first name to Napoleon and adding color to that role would be nice)

You may guess who King Louis is and lynch him 3 times per a game if you guess correctly you and your fellow Jacobins win if you get rid of the rest of the Monarchists.

This is basically him guessing, I'll probably nix this ability as it kinda doesn't make sense

Does Robespierre lynch all of his guesses or only King Louis?

[OzyWho]

Does Robespierre lynch all of his guesses or only King Louis?

And, tbh, the wording slightly indicates that if he guesses all 3 wrong then he loses.. Is that true?

[Noz_Bugz]

How can Napoleon win? He needs them both lynched, but if either one of them gets lynched then the other one wins and Napoleon can't lynch that other one. (Also changing Napoloen Bonaparte first name to Napoleon and adding color to that role would be nice)
The other side must be completely eliminated, I'm still thinkin of a color for Napleon.

Does Robespierre lynch all of his guesses or only King Louis?
He only lynches King Louis

my answers are in green

[Noz_Bugz]

And, tbh, the wording slightly indicates that if he guesses all 3 wrong then he loses.. Is that true?

He can still lynch train them. The guess should either be given to Louis or completely removed

[Noz_Bugz]

See change logs, added/changed things

[rumox]

Day 1 - Red faction starts a lynch train, Green faction follows (at least one of them)
Night 2 - Red faction shoots someone that didn't follow train
Day 2 - Lynch someone that didn't join the train Day 1
Night 3+ - Rinse and repeat

Bussing is mandatory if Blue wants to even remotely stand a chance.

[OzyWho]

See change logs, added/changed things

Quick question: does Robespierre know who his allies are? We know that King Louis does but nothing is stated for Robespierre. (Though I remember it was said previously that he doesn't know, but can't find it anymore)

Btw. Do I understand it correctly? Potentially up to 8 players can die(3 kills + 3 kills + 1 kill + Day1 Lynch) when D2 arrives?

So it is very likely that the game doesn't last longer than 2 game days?

[Noz_Bugz]

Quick question: does Robespierre know who his allies are? We know that King Louis does but nothing is stated for Robespierre. (Though I remember it was said previously that he doesn't know, but can't find it anymore)

Btw. Do I understand it correctly? Potentially up to 8 players can die(3 kills + 3 kills + 1 kill + Day1 Lynch) when D2 arrives?

So it is very likely that the game doesn't last longer than 2 game days?

Hmm good point, I may need to cut down on possible KPN. I'm currently thinking of a different ability for Robespierre.

[Noz_Bugz]

Current Ideas for Robspierre
-Give him vigi guilt if he shoots an Asembly Member or Jacobin member
-Make him have an extra vote if he reveals.
-Reduce the amount of shots he has

Any other ideas I'll be open to.

[Noz_Bugz]

Thinking about it Robespierre will have an extra vote if he reveals. Changing it

[Efekannn02]

assembly member is a useless af role

[Noz_Bugz]

assembly member is a useless af role

And can you explain why?

[Efekannn02]

And can you explain why?

because he has 2 useless choices which can make the other team op af if they know how to play

[Noz_Bugz]

because he has 2 useless choices which can make the other team op af if they know how to play

And why are the two choices useless?

[Stealthbomber16]

if all the monarchists shoot jacobins n1 and napolean hits anything other than a monarchist then monarchists pretty much just win right out of the gate

[Marshmallow Marshall]

if all the monarchists shoot jacobins n1 and napolean hits anything other than a monarchist then monarchists pretty much just win right out of the gate

Yep. But Napoleon can kill too... if Louis XVI dies it's RIP everyone.

[Stealthbomber16]

Yep. But Napoleon can kill too... if Louis XVI dies it's RIP everyone.

Either way it’s not good.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Also it ain't "Robpierre" but Robespierre. And maybe make town green instead of red? ^^ just for new players

[Noz_Bugz]

Also it ain't "Robpierre" but Robespierre. And maybe make town green instead of red? ^^ just for new players

meh, I can't remember how to spell French Names.

[SuperJack]

With the Green team, there is no insentive for them to play, they can just claim their role and remain neutral. I suggest forcing them to pick a side.
Red team is underpowered compared to the blue team, blue team gets all the killing roles, knowledge of who each other are, and possible extra team members. A 6v3 is not balence and blue is really OP.

Napoleon is cool tho, your normal serial killer.

[Noz_Bugz]

literally just saw this post and i'm working on a few changes.
Most likely
Adding a vigi
removing a monarchist
replacing assembly member slots with assembly member/Jacobin Member
changing the assembly member win con

[Noz_Bugz]

updated, see changelog

[Stealthbomber16]

Two things:

King Louis and Monarchist-See Robespierre and The Jacobins elminiated

ahhh

When it comes to the wincon, do the Jacobins need to see the Monarchists lynched or just killed? Same goes for Napoleons wincon.

Other than that, I feel like the setup is somewhat jacobin sided due to the sheer amount of people the monarchists need to kill.

[Noz_Bugz]

Napoleon's win con is to see Louis and Robespierre be killed by any means, he can win with any side as long as those two are dead.

They just need to get rid of the monarchists, I will make the wincons a bit more clear

[Noz_Bugz]

and wincons made clearer

[SuperJack]

Whats to stop Robespierre getting themselves lynched/killed just to allow Napoleon to take over?
What sides may Assembly Members pick? And what does their role become for the choices?

[Noz_Bugz]

Whats to stop Robespierre getting themselves lynched/killed just to allow Napoleon to take over?
Common sense really, why would town give up a mayor to let someone else. I would say that seems on the edge of gamethrowing
What sides may Assembly Members pick? And what does their role become for the choices?
They can pick Jacobin or Moarchist, they simply become a citi/goon

answers in green

[SuperJack]

answers in green

Simple really, Robespierre does not need to be alive to win, Napoleon can win with town if Rob is dead.
Napoleon basically IS a night Immune confirmed role with the ability to kill at night. Becoming super OP mayor.
Which means then, they cannot be killed by blue, and can lynch AND kill to find blue.

[Noz_Bugz]

Simple really, Robespierre does not need to be alive to win, Napoleon can win with town if Rob is dead.
Napoleon basically IS a night Immune confirmed role with the ability to kill at night. Becoming super OP mayor.
Which means then, they cannot be killed by blue, and can lynch AND kill to find blue.

i think I may make him only able to win alone or with monarchist, either that or set a limit to his shots

[OzyWho]

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Very true. The Workshop is for everyone!
peasant rabble incoming

This setup's lore is interesting, btw...