S-FM 242: The Coldest War

[blinkskater]

You wouldn't vote Voss before Distorted?

[Distorted]

I have literally tried to lynch EVERYONE here. If you really feel efekannn is mafia, sure, but i don't really believe it. listen. Come up with a theory that involves me being confirmed town right now, pretend i revelaed as citizen, what would the alternative be?

[blinkskater]

@Whad i can swear to u i am citizen, on blinks kids.

But the reason i am defending efekannn is i feel bad that he is trying hard this game after being threatened to be banned and would get lynched. I wanted to see him play more.

@Whad I feel distorted and I our good friends and he knows how seriously i take my kids, he wouldn't say that if he was scum

[Distorted]

@Whad I feel distorted and I our good friends and he knows how seriously i take my kids, he wouldn't say that if he was scum

If a lynch on me HAS to be done, ok, but let us talk really quick (while im aliive) about hwat happenes when i flip town, because i PROMISE u i will. so lets talk about it BEFORE u kill me. After that, lynch me and i know town has a plan.

[blinkskater]

-vote voss

I'm sure this is our best option think back to day 1 Whad

[Distorted]

Honestly I want to hear if Whad is going to be susp of me all game. If it is going to mess with the game I want to let him come to the decision on if me and efe theory is plausible or the alternative theory.

Literally right now pretend I am not here, and my rolecard is town revealed confirmed. What is ur next move?

[Whad]

@Whad i can swear to u i am citizen, on blinks kids.

But the reason i am defending efekannn is i feel bad that he is trying hard this game after being threatened to be banned and would get lynched. I wanted to see him play more.

If efekann is town then why did he have to wait so long to post content in professor chat? It really seems like someone got coached to me.

Also his interactions and vote patterns regarding you make me suspicious. Already was independently suspecting you but I think there is def. a link here.

[Distorted]

im not saying if efe is town, i actually have no clue bad wording. you lynch ME and when i flip town. what is the next move?

[Distorted]

if u made him protege and he blew it off, ill hammer him. that is info i had no idea about. I still think u should have trusted hybrid with it though =P

[Whad]

Honestly I want to hear if Whad is going to be susp of me all game. If it is going to mess with the game I want to let him come to the decision on if me and efe theory is plausible or the alternative theory.

Literally right now pretend I am not here, and my rolecard is town revealed confirmed. What is ur next move?

My next move is I will be dead by the beginning of the next day so not really my problem.

So I gotta make sure we take the best stab at lynching scum today as possible.

[Distorted]

Scenario: im dead, role card is Citizen.

Who become the suspects.

[Distorted]

I stood up for efekannn because of some choice words some ppl said to him.

[Distorted]

I stood up for efekannn because of some choice words some ppl said to him.

as well as the previous reason. I wanted to watch him play through more.

[Distorted]

I mean, there is absoulutely no1 else i could be partnered with here.

[Whad]

if u made him protege and he blew it off, ill hammer him. that is info i had no idea about. I still think u should have trusted hybrid with it though =P

1. I don't trust neutrals.
2. Now scum have incentive to kill a less analysis heavy slot (mafia or sk).
3. I townread efekann originally but also wanted to use the prof. chat to consolidate my read on him.

I guess one question I have is what motivation does efekann have to blow off professor chat? I think it's a more scum motivation although scum might want to play ball with me better to blend in. I think that the lack of voting with me on Distorted is what is pinging my scumdar the hardest.

[Spruance]

@Whad I feel distorted and I our good friends and he knows how seriously i take my kids, he wouldn't say that if he was scum

I mean unless blink doesn't have any kids this is kinda gamethrowing. I mean I've done it before but it should be more strongly discouraged.

[Distorted]

SK would be the only evil i could be - but even then i never backed down. I put myself up to L-2 and got down, and went right back at it. If I was SK i would have backed down and faded back when I had good town reads on me
would have been easy to get a day or 2 skipped through like that. I kept myself in the spotlight because a citizen has the ability to do that and get killed at night for minimal damage to town. It is citizens JOBS to pressure and accuse, find slip ups and just drill ppl.

[Distorted]

I mean unless blink doesn't have any kids this is kinda gamethrowing. I mean I've done it before but it should be more strongly discouraged.

i actually said it as a joke reference to last game... lol i saw it as a cheap shot too, so lets remove that from the equation.

[Spruance]

@Whad i can swear to u i am citizen, on blinks kids.

But the reason i am defending efekannn is i feel bad that he is trying hard this game after being threatened to be banned and would get lynched. I wanted to see him play more.

Hmm or maybe the key word is can... Regardless I say we trust him for now.

[Distorted]

1. I don't trust neutrals.
2. Now scum have incentive to kill a less analysis heavy slot (mafia or sk).
3. I townread efekann originally but also wanted to use the prof. chat to consolidate my read on him.

I guess one question I have is what motivation does efekann have to blow off professor chat? I think it's a more scum motivation although scum might want to play ball with me better to blend in. I think that the lack of voting with me on Distorted is what is pinging my scumdar the hardest.

i was put up to L-2 twice today

[Voss]

im not saying if efe is town, i actually have no clue bad wording. you lynch ME and when i flip town. what is the next move?

spruance has info or he dies. or if we believe whatever he says, nawa vs rlvg.

like, we could go for efe today, but I really don't want to have a d3 with Distorted around.

[Distorted]

I would have been lynched BUT spruance and suprisingly blink didnt do the final votes, everyone else (but efekannn as well) voted me.

[Distorted]

spruance has info or he dies. or if we believe whatever he says, nawa vs rlvg.

like, we could go for efe today, but I really don't want to have a d3 with Distorted around.

you and unknown are not both town. not possible if blink is cit.

[Distorted]

i was put up to L-2 twice today

and the thing is, when I was put up, i never stopped. i never backed down, i actually excepted i would be lynched and fixed up my LW for it.

[Distorted]

[N1: nothing]__[N2: probably still nothing]__[N3:


RLVG is claiming either escort(consort?) or another agent (since he asked about feedback)
were 2 people RBed last night? targets are notified.


Scvmurderer (7 [L-0]): RLVG, Distorted, Marshmallow Marshall, Unknown1234, blinkskater, Whad, Efekannn02
blinkskater (4 [L-3]): Scvmurderer, Voss, Hybrid, Spruance

RLVG, Unk, Efekannn, blink on that lynch.

Voss and Unknown, I really do not think you are both town, seems it is too passive there.
1 of you is buddying.

[Voss]

SK would be the only evil i could be - but even then i never backed down. I put myself up to L-2 and got down, and went right back at it. If I was SK i would have backed down and faded back when I had good town reads on me
would have been easy to get a day or 2 skipped through like that. I kept myself in the spotlight because a citizen has the ability to do that and get killed at night for minimal damage to town. It is citizens JOBS to pressure and accuse, find slip ups and just drill ppl.

I'm tired of repeating my arguments so i'm just going to say this is false. again.

[Distorted]

that is my LW

[Voss]

i was put up to L-2 twice today

why do you forget that i removed you from L-1? Doesn't fit your narrative does it?

[Distorted]

Voss, i believe u could be the 4th cit over unknown. but how unknown is not even a question to u from all the random BS is beyond me. I have pulled out so many posts about him and he blatantly contradicted himself so many times, right infront of u the last time too and NEITHER of u addressed it.

[Distorted]

why do you forget that i removed you from L-1? Doesn't fit your narrative does it?

no it does not FULLY. but i did that last game with Whad multiple times as armadyus follower. but that also gives u credibility over unknown to me. Unknown buddies ppl right hwen he joins games, he admitted it in the last game in post-game-chat. He said he buddied me because i was the strongest town read. Voss, you are obviously the most experienced mafia player here, why else would he go with u WITHOUT QUESTION.

[Distorted]

That does not make sense. He is discrediting meta but meta seems to be dead on very frequently. I mean just last game it got the only scum lynched.

[Distorted]

Unknown wont vote RLVG, whom I also have a big scum read on, and wont vote Yuki. I think that is the 3 Mafia right there.

[Distorted]

blink wasnt voting unknown, but unknown voted blink (only for a short time) Unknown is buddying up with everyone and playing it soft. He asks permission from people before voting "do you guys feel this is a good vote?" wtf citizen would do that. PUSH USE UR ONLY POWER, PRESSURE PEOPLE

[Distorted]

He said he was doing that to look like a TPR, a stronger target for Mafia. But after he outted as cit it did not change.

[Whad]

that is suspect as hell too, which u didnt come clean at until AFTER spy died. pretty much gave hybrid a false sense of not needing to protect/vest MM. I mean going through ur game just seems full of scum plays.

How is distorted so bad this game?

1. It was already was answered that my heal protects against all attacks.
2. Vests handed out by survivor cannot be used until the next night due to order of operations. (slight aside, scum can get an auto-vest so you being scum is probably why you're confused about vest mechanics.)
3. We already established a long time ago that the mafia roleblocked everyone so Hybrid wasn't even able to give out items.

I'm forced to conclude from all this that yup Distorted is still scum despite the blatant appeals to emotion by swearing on blink's kids.

[Distorted]

why do I still have the host voted..lol

-vote unvote

[Distorted]

How is distorted so bad this game?

1. It was already was answered that my heal protects against all attacks.
2. Vests handed out by survivor cannot be used until the next night due to order of operations. (slight aside, scum can get an auto-vest so you being scum is probably why you're confused about vest mechanics.)
3. We already established a long time ago that the mafia roleblocked everyone so Hybrid wasn't even able to give out items.

I'm forced to conclude from all this that yup Distorted is still scum despite the blatant appeals to emotion by swearing on blink's kids.

remove the kids thing from the equation due to it being a joke. and I know saying that there makes it look scummy, but i even told blink that was a cheap shot last game lol

Whad, i promise you I am citizen.

[blinkskater]

How is distorted so bad this game?

1. It was already was answered that my heal protects against all attacks.
2. Vests handed out by survivor cannot be used until the next night due to order of operations. (slight aside, scum can get an auto-vest so you being scum is probably why you're confused about vest mechanics.)
3. We already established a long time ago that the mafia roleblocked everyone so Hybrid wasn't even able to give out items.

I'm forced to conclude from all this that yup Distorted is still scum despite the blatant appeals to emotion by swearing on blink's kids.

you're wrong he wouldn't do that

[Distorted]

Unknowns play does NOT add up at all. I mean reading these pages there are so many contradictions in it. I questioned yuki and got shut down, i questioned RLVG he said "no lynching TPR, then he steered it to Nawa right after" I went after Voss, he backed him up STILL with 0 questions. You don't see anything wrong here? Blink voted voss and a whole shitstorm started from unknown. Voss, he has u buddied, because i dont think u would both be scum acting that obvious unless u are both overly confident in this

[Distorted]

nah dont use the cheap tactic in it, it is really a cheap shot. I ment it as more of a joke but my posts turned pretty leveled out from the rest of the game lol

[Distorted]

if its decided Whad, and u really know u CANNOT change ur mind, vote me. but I really implore you to look at the evidence on unknown

[Distorted]

I havnt lied about my role or anything all game, hell I went around getting ppl to claim, i kept myself in the damn spotlight ALL GAME ON PURPOSE. because citizens are able to do that. Look at the logic here

[Distorted]

If you truly feel efekannn is scum, than either unknown is bussing him or is town. because unknown would have lynched efekannn, at least i believe so.

[Voss]

no it does not FULLY. but i did that last game with Whad multiple times as armadyus follower. but that also gives u credibility over unknown to me. Unknown buddies ppl right hwen he joins games, he admitted it in the last game in post-game-chat. He said he buddied me because i was the strongest town read. Voss, you are obviously the most experienced mafia player here, why else would he go with u WITHOUT QUESTION.

I can't ignore the actual buddying between you and blink, you're hard push to uncover citizens(and TPRS), and the fact that you scum read me for making it easier for mafia to choose kill targets. Your arguments against me and Unknown don't make sense, and now you're trying an ethos argument (that is working). I've been fooled by this before, so I don't want to hate myself for letting you get away later. All you're telling me to do is to look at Unknown if you flip town. I can't even do that because of the way you organized the game around the claims. Tomorrow its Spruance or the other TPRs. You're asking me to go butt heads with Unknown. Assuming we're both around until then (hopefully not, because I can't keep staying on this damn site), I have to work with him. If he doesn't see things my way in D4, I'll have to scum read him then. But we're not there yet.

@Distorted , read that a couple of times.

[Yukitaka Oni]

no it does not FULLY. but i did that last game with Whad multiple times as armadyus follower. but that also gives u credibility over unknown to me. Unknown buddies ppl right hwen he joins games, he admitted it in the last game in post-game-chat. He said he buddied me because i was the strongest town read. Voss, you are obviously the most experienced mafia player here, why else would he go with u WITHOUT QUESTION.

Spoiler alert, RLVG is the most experience players

[Distorted]

But RLVG is the obvious consort here, he even said he does feedback actions. Nawa is god knows what fked we cant get a hard claim from him. Voss is probably SK or mafia with Unknown, that is why they ahve eachother buddied. 2 scums found eachother scenario and are just using eachother for protection. I believe blink is the other cit now and potentially efekannn or yuki. if unknown flips scum i would write yuki as scum.

[Spruance]

DO NOT LYNCH TODAY LIST:
Spruance - cus spru crew
Whad - cus whadamir
Hybrid - cus neutral
Distorted - cus trust for now
Unknown1234 - cus unlikely mafia
Nawa - cus 50%
RLVG - cus 50%
Voss - cus less likey mafia

THE REST
Efekannn02
Blinkskater
Yukitaka Oni

I have trouble accepting the fact that 2/3 of efekan blink yuki are mafia (other is nawa or rlvg) simply because of host meta, but it is what it is.

[Distorted]

I can't ignore the actual buddying between you and blink, you're hard push to uncover citizens(and TPRS), and the fact that you scum read me for making it easier for mafia to choose kill targets. Your arguments against me and Unknown don't make sense, and now you're trying an ethos argument (that is working). I've been fooled by this before, so I don't want to hate myself for letting you get away later. All you're telling me to do is to look at Unknown if you flip town. I can't even do that because of the way you organized the game around the claims. Tomorrow its Spruance or the other TPRs. You're asking me to go butt heads with Unknown. Assuming we're both around until then (hopefully not, because I can't keep staying on this damn site), I have to work with him. If he doesn't see things my way in D4, I'll have to scum read him then. But we're not there yet.

@Distorted , read that a couple of times.

I wanted blink lynched at the beginning of day 2. look at the post lynch shit i flung at him lol that was not bussing. I never accused u of "making targets easier" not once. but if the "agenda" tomorrow is start lynching TPR...wtf? spruance is like the most confirmed 1 in my opinion. the other 2 havnt even claimed. he set up a claim because he finally had to reveal so he made himself worthless so he wouldent get rbed. I think that is 100% legit. RLSV can RB ppl, sooo susp there. we have me, blink, unknown, voss. 4 cit claims argueing with 3 cits possible. and u say if im town u will move to the TPRs?? that makes 0 sense.

[Distorted]

Yuki, efek I could do, but we have 6 cit claims and a wierd dynamic with voss and unknown. unknown being the most susp due to cutting me off constantly frmo finding leads and him not pressuring people himself. He pressed harder as armadillo last game than he has as "citizen" this game. everyone knows citizens are expendable at night here, why not push?

[Distorted]

here ill copy paste my original LW

gotta go into PMs to get it