S-FM 242: The Coldest War

[Unknown1234]

so far blink has had 0 problem open claiming every game as town, now he was verry very skeptical about claiming, and when he finally did, he claimed citizen. I do not see him playing that sketchy and passive as a town member.

He did this last game. Something is wrong about you this game.

[Distorted]

Have people not realized that I actually defend the people that I town-read? Like im kinda face palming at your last few posts Distorted.

also, his "overnight" knowledge of the game seemed to have picked up quite a bit. Yeah i understand reading the save, but coming right out talking about scum strategies? I have 0 idea how the fk MM just died, RBs? why is there this he was attacked twice, jfk became assassin, ect ect.

[Voss]

Im not PSS.

what was the other game that I had to sub myself out of unknown? I know i've played 3 games with you. Overwatch mafia, the disgusting archon mafia and.....?

[Distorted]

He did this last game. Something is wrong about you this game.

Last game I was scum so i find it nice that you say something is different with my game here.

[Unknown1234]

also, his "overnight" knowledge of the game seemed to have picked up quite a bit. Yeah i understand reading the save, but coming right out talking about scum strategies? I have 0 idea how the fk MM just died, RBs? why is there this he was attacked twice, jfk became assassin, ect ect.

He did this last game too, which Whad called him out for.

You are only making him look more town to me, by showing consistent behaviour.

[Unknown1234]

Last game I was scum so i find it nice that you say something is different with my game here.

I am deciding if i scum read you for the arguments you are using right now.

[blinkskater]

so far blink has had 0 problem open claiming every game as town, now he was verry very skeptical about claiming, and when he finally did, he claimed citizen. I do not see him playing that sketchy and passive as a town member.

Every time I did that I was in the hot seat from minute one of the game I didn't feel like being on the winch seat as soon as the game starts also nobody took what I said seriously after doing that in each game so I figured maybe I shouldn't do that in this one

[Unknown1234]

blah blah blah, Unknown defends people.

Unknown always defends people. I think it's suspicious how you are using this as an edge, and backed off from saying i wasn't defending anyone as much as I did last game.

I defended Whad hard, and that wasn't because I thought he was my teammate. Your points are actually weak.

[Distorted]

-vote Yukitaka Oni

Kinda think im happy with this right now.

Yuki uses those faces a lot in the deathnotes. Yuki was suspicious before the lynch due to lack of talking. There is a target painted on Yuki right now that I believe is from the Mafia.

[Voss]

Okay here's the beginning of my rant distorted do you honestly think that I would take that much time and invested into a Death Note I can't even make those faces you know I'm way to lazy. Second when I first looked at the death it looked like it was two separate death notes. Third SCV and I both had heat from the start SCV made that really questionable comment that made him look entirely like scum. And I do not have scum strategies apparently every comment I make is scummy according to everybody you of all people know that and the reason why I said Godfather used his heat ability is because I stared at that rolls and possibilities for like 20 minutes and that's what I came up with sorry I'm trying to figure out what happened. End of rant

I think at best half the people in this game think you're scummy. You're waving away criticism of your posts with a blanket "everyone thinks i'm scum sooo *shrug*"

[Unknown1234]

what was the other game that I had to sub myself out of unknown? I know i've played 3 games with you. Overwatch mafia, the disgusting archon mafia and.....?

Don't remind me. Wifom Mafia Q

[Unknown1234]

Yuki uses those faces a lot in the deathnotes. Yuki was suspicious before the lynch due to lack of talking. There is a target painted on Yuki right now that I believe is from the Mafia.

Wifom as an element of itself. The scum could easily do that to make people think Yuki is being framed, when its possible he is framing himself. You are only looking at things from one direction.

[Distorted]

blah blah blah, Unknown defends people.

Unknown always defends people. I think it's suspicious how you are using this as an edge, and backed off from saying i wasn't defending anyone as much as I did last game.

I defended Whad hard, and that wasn't because I thought he was my teammate. Your points are actually weak.

You are passively defending blink all game and showing no suspicion towards him. and he is showing non towards you. surprised you dont find him not claiming his role within the first 10 minutes (like he has done very game as town) so far.

also wondering why ur not curious why he comes out saying trotsky was attacked twice due to 2 death notes, not paying much attention to 1 of them is a last will. A town would be analyzing that LW. Also, he did not come out really confused at all, just started stating scum strategies and throwing suspicion. This mafia is now trying to throw heavy confusion, especially after getting rid of our spy.

[Unknown1234]

Does Nawa lurk as scum? Just curious.

[Voss]

Yuki uses those faces a lot in the deathnotes. Yuki was suspicious before the lynch due to lack of talking. There is a target painted on Yuki right now that I believe is from the Mafia.

i thought about that, but the case could be that yuki/team could be reverse framing. I'm chalking it up to NAI. Might be worth revisiting when game is in the late phase though.

[Distorted]

Wifom as an element of itself. The scum could easily do that to make people think Yuki is being framed, when its possible he is framing himself. You are only looking at things from one direction.

you dont find it odd how fast SCV built momentum there? You don't seem to be questioning the votes at all. You also like to "rage", as you did last game and said you do every game when stuff like this happens. You do not seem upset at all. The scum team just "signed a breath of relief" so to speak with MMs death. You and blink seemed to have come out of the night with a nice energy boost, and not of frustration/confusion, but of confidence.

Am I the only 1 picking up on this? I want opinions from others.

[Voss]

Does Nawa lurk as scum? Just curious.

It'd be really cool if there were some sort of mafia platform that maps users to previous games they've been apart of *apple emoji thinking face*

[Unknown1234]

You are passively defending blink all game and showing no suspicion towards him. and he is showing non towards you. surprised you dont find him not claiming his role within the first 10 minutes (like he has done very game as town) so far.

also wondering why ur not curious why he comes out saying trotsky was attacked twice due to 2 death notes, not paying much attention to 1 of them is a last will. A town would be analyzing that LW. Also, he did not come out really confused at all, just started stating scum strategies and throwing suspicion. This mafia is now trying to throw heavy confusion, especially after getting rid of our spy.

You are twisting points to use them against him. I vote people who I think are top picks for scum, and I haven't seen that in Blink yet. If you had actually paid attention, then you would have picked up on that.

Town are more likely to make dumb mistakes like that. Scum think carefully about every move they make, so im surprised you think a scum would make that error.

He did scum strategies last game, Whad made a big deal about that. And he was town. If you are going to use meta, be efficient.

[Unknown1234]

Oh my god.

[blinkskater]

You are passively defending blink all game and showing no suspicion towards him. and he is showing non towards you. surprised you dont find him not claiming his role within the first 10 minutes (like he has done very game as town) so far.

also wondering why ur not curious why he comes out saying trotsky was attacked twice due to 2 death notes, not paying much attention to 1 of them is a last will. A town would be analyzing that LW. Also, he did not come out really confused at all, just started stating scum strategies and throwing suspicion. This mafia is now trying to throw heavy confusion, especially after getting rid of our spy.

I haven't offended Unown all game have you ever thought he's reading me for what I am town???? I already explained why I didn't claim right away I think those are pretty damn good reasons what would it take for me to prove to you that I'm not with unknown I can park my vote on him if you want won't move it you tell me bro

[Unknown1234]

you dont find it odd how fast SCV built momentum there? You don't seem to be questioning the votes at all. You also like to "rage", as you did last game and said you do every game when stuff like this happens. You do not seem upset at all. The scum team just "signed a breath of relief" so to speak with MMs death. You and blink seemed to have come out of the night with a nice energy boost, and not of frustration/confusion, but of confidence.

Am I the only 1 picking up on this? I want opinions from others.

Fast isn't what i'd say. There were 3 votes on him for the majority of the day, and when people finally stopped obsessing about the neutral then people started to become suspicious of SCV.

I am done talking to you.

[Unknown1234]

i thought about that, but the case could be that yuki/team could be reverse framing. I'm chalking it up to NAI. Might be worth revisiting when game is in the late phase though.

I like that you noticed this.

[Distorted]

You say my argument is weak: @Unknown1234

Blink has revealed town within the first hour every game.

You have passively defended him all game.

The train on scvmurderer built up extremely quilty after blink became a suspect

He has a nice understanding of scum strategy for some reason after N1, and addressses that immediately rather than showing any form of confusion.

He did not even pay close enough attention to the last wills and death notes to understand that they were DIFFERENT. Shit i reread them both 2-3 times lol (despite this being his first save with night sequences).


Where in there is my argument "weak"? if anything I feel my argument is much stronger than your defense. rather than saying it is weak, im curious why u show NO suspicion towards him with any of these claims. You are now just defending him straight up without addressing ANYTHING that I am saying???? not like you at all.

[Distorted]

Fast isn't what i'd say. There were 3 votes on him for the majority of the day, and when people finally stopped obsessing about the neutral then people started to become suspicious of SCV.

I am done talking to you.

go back and read, momentum was building on blink but for some reason SCV got lynched early. common you can pick up on this stuff. not sure WHY u dont even find that susp.

[blinkskater]

You say my argument is weak: @Unknown1234

Blink has revealed town within the first hour every game.

You have passively defended him all game.

The train on scvmurderer built up extremely quilty after blink became a suspect

He has a nice understanding of scum strategy for some reason after N1, and addressses that immediately rather than showing any form of confusion.

He did not even pay close enough attention to the last wills and death notes to understand that they were DIFFERENT. Shit i reread them both 2-3 times lol (despite this being his first save with night sequences).


Where in there is my argument "weak"? if anything I feel my argument is much stronger than your defense. rather than saying it is weak, im curious why u show NO suspicion towards him with any of these claims. You are now just defending him straight up without addressing ANYTHING that I am saying???? not like you at all.

I'll just what you saying nobody listen to me and took me seriously when I claimed instantly yes he's passively defended me all game and I don't know why maybe because I'm down and he sees that I did pay close attention to the death notes and realize that two of them were completely different that's why I thought there was too I didn't realize one was a last will and like unknown had said the SCV votes were already up there he said something very very suspicious he already had votes a lot more than I did and it's you're saying that I have a nice understanding of the scum strategy after reading the roles and all the actions shitload of times that's what I came up with again you keep stating points the same points mind you that I keep answering

[Voss]

go back and read, momentum was building on blink but for some reason SCV got lynched early. common you can pick up on this stuff. not sure WHY u dont even find that susp.

to add to this, efkan brought scv to -1, and blink hammered saying "WELL IF ITS ME VS HIM..."

[Distorted]

I'll just what you saying nobody listen to me and took me seriously when I claimed instantly yes he's passively defended me all game and I don't know why maybe because I'm down and he sees that I did pay close attention to the death notes and realize that two of them were completely different that's why I thought there was too I didn't realize one was a last will and like unknown had said the SCV votes were already up there he said something very very suspicious he already had votes a lot more than I did and it's you're saying that I have a nice understanding of the scum strategy after reading the roles and all the actions shitload of times that's what I came up with again you keep stating points the same points mind you that I keep answering

hmm you dont find him suspicious at all for defending you? he even outted his strategy last game when he is scum that he likes to "buddy" towns. the whole interaction between you 2 seems very scum.

[blinkskater]

to add to this, efkan brought scv to -1, and blink hammered saying "WELL IF ITS ME VS HIM..."

Yes would you not do the same knowing youre cit? I had no problem hammering there

[Distorted]

I mean, Unknown and Whad had a good talk last game about how unknown is always raging at the town. He even said last game he was holding back because he was evil....he does not seem upset AT ALL that our most powerful confirmed town role just died N1.

[blinkskater]

hmm you dont find him suspicious at all for defending you? he even outted his strategy last game when he is scum that he likes to "buddy" towns. the whole interaction between you 2 seems very scum.

The only thing I will say that seems scummy about him budding me is that evils would want to keep around the guy with a Target on his back

[Distorted]

The only thing I will say that seems scummy about him budding me is that evils would want to keep around the guy with a Target on his back

so you think unknown is evil then?

[Voss]

Yes would you not do the same knowing youre cit? I had no problem hammering there

that was more of a efekan gave you the opportunity to do that. you hammering in that situation can be NAI.

[Distorted]

-vote unvote

[Distorted]

-vote unknown1234

ok blink, your turn

[Unknown1234]

That's not at all what i rage about. I don't rage about important roles dying, it's about people pissing me off. you're getting there.

[Voss]

Distorted and RLVG for Scum Team 2020. Unless someone is ballzing up to claim a TPR slot, any talk on them is WASTED and misdirection.

[Distorted]

That's not at all what i rage about. I don't rage about important roles dying, it's about people pissing me off. you're getting there.

Please address my questions about my argument on blink. You seemed to think it was very pro town last time pressuring people, not is pisses you off? If you are going to say "im tunnel visioned" it is literally 2 hours into day 2. so tunnel vision doesnt even exist yet lol I mean i could see how me hard pressuring u and blink could start pissing you off since that could potentially wipe out a scum today and tonight =P

[Unknown1234]

You are actually terrible if you think we are both scum.

[blinkskater]

so you think unknown is evil then?

Its hard to say the only person who has your back is evil but what i am daying is that would be his angle if he was evil imo

[Distorted]

You are actually terrible if you think we are both scum.

not sure if that's worse than a PSS claim not being on the 1 confirmed town role which happened to be our most powerful N1....

[Unknown1234]

Try reading before that comment. I’m not PSS and I already said that.

[Distorted]

Last game you were trying to figure people out and question them (as armadillo you didn't know who anyone was) this game you are a lot more defensive and critical of that same strategy. Pressure and checking for alignments between people is what we now must do since MM is dead. How this is an odd strategy to you is beyond me.

[Unknown1234]

Its hard to say the only person who has your back is evil but what i am daying is that would be his angle if he was evil imo

As a heads up, I defend people all the time, it actually has nothing to do with what Allignment I am.

[blinkskater]

Dist i honestly think if you were scum you wouldnt be trying to lynch me so my question is for UNK why are you defending me?

[Unknown1234]

Last game you were trying to figure people out and question them (as armadillo you didn't know who anyone was) this game you are a lot more defensive and critical of that same strategy. Pressure and checking for alignments between people is what we now must do since MM is dead. How this is an odd strategy to you is beyond me.

I’m confused at what you’re saying I’m saying.

[Unknown1234]

Dist i honestly think if you were scum you wouldnt be trying to lynch me so my question is for UNK why are you defending me?

Because you aren’t at the top of my scum pile. Opposing lynches means that the people I suspect aren’t getting lynched. I did that with Voss yesterday.

[Voss]

I know how i'm being about this, but after that stupid role claim yesterday, I want to squeeze out the benefits.

There's 4 scum between
Distorted
Blink
Yuki
RLVG
Efkan
Nawa
Voss

And for me(and anyone else that trusts me) that's 2/3 chance of picking scum.

Spoiler : todo :

I think there's a mathematical proof that I'm less likely to have picked scum, but I'll do the math later. *brain melt down poosh thing*

[Unknown1234]

I know how i'm being about this, but after that stupid role claim yesterday, I want to squeeze out the benefits.

There's 4 scum between
Distorted
Blink
Yuki
RLVG
Efkan
Nawa
Voss

And for me(and anyone else that trusts me) that's 2/3 chance of picking scum.

Spoiler : todo :

I think there's a mathematical proof that I'm less likely to have picked scum, but I'll do the math later. *brain melt down poosh thing*

Wait why.

[Distorted]

I know how i'm being about this, but after that stupid role claim yesterday, I want to squeeze out the benefits.

There's 4 scum between
Distorted
Blink
Yuki
RLVG
Efkan
Nawa
Voss

And for me(and anyone else that trusts me) that's 2/3 chance of picking scum.

Spoiler : todo :

I think there's a mathematical proof that I'm less likely to have picked scum, but I'll do the math later. *brain melt down poosh thing*

hmm

[Unknown1234]

THere are 4 scums in this game. How am I and Spruance not scum?