S-FM 241: Fableblood III - The Return of Haloden

[blinkskater]

Does that necessarily make him scum though? What motivation would a scum-unknown have to do that?

No it doesn't make him scum, I also wanted to see the reactions of some other players after I voted him

[Distorted]

no it was just showing who did the quote

[Marshmallow Marshall]

If this was supposed to be a vote, the correct syntax to vote someone is Attachment 23935

Ok, sorry. Screenshot_20171129_100003.jpg. =)

[RLVG]

That is what im trying to get a feel for. I went off an early meta game lead with efekannn, but blink brought up a good point about RLVG.
Do I believe both are scum? I mean it's possible, but it's also possible that neither are, but too me from how fast everything went down there it seems susp, but not enough for me to confidently cast my vote. That is why I wanted to wait for more people, information is towns greatest tool, so why rush a lynch?
If we lynched efa and he was scum, I would assume RLVG was ONLY in the case that he removed his vote before the lynch and tried to back peddle what he did. If efe is not scum, then I would be susp of RLVG, yes.

To be fair, we have around 40 hours to play and Efe went offline, so I rather pressure / focus on those who are currently online to make use of our valuable time.

[Unknown1234]

Swapping to computer cuz phone is annoying AF to use sometimes.

Distorted (2 [L-3]):
RLVG, Scvmurderer
Unknown1234 (1 [L-4]):
blinkskater
blinkskater (1 [L-4]):
Whad
Efekannn02 (1 [L-4]):
Marshmallow Marshall

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Nah, just playing with efe's trollness. But I am curious why within 10 minutes of playing he has 2 votes and you did not even question the vote on efekannn. I do believe efe tried a little too hard there to show an appearance of being innocent; which having played the mod with efekannn makes me believe he is evil. but how fast you voted him without question is susp to me. But, maybe thats how FM works? In the mod people who random usually need to have some form of basis behind it, especially on insta-lynch games (no trial). But maybe im being over cautious.

Due to this line right here "who were the evils Haloden and the other guys that i forgot" I'm very susp of efekannn.

Here, the fastest we start investigating, the best it is. Shitposting all D1 long is not a good idea. :P

[Distorted]

To be fair, we have around 40 hours to play and Efe went offline, so I rather pressure / focus on those who are currently online to make use of our valuable time.

Makes sense, squeeze out more info before they leave.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

YOU DONT KNOW Me

Yes I do know you. And you're weird. Not trolly enough imo, too much WIFOM for a D1 start.

[Unknown1234]

Marsh your vote is kinda shitty. You quoted his first post as being scummy. Can you tell me why his following posts are scummy to you?

Also you chose to pressure someone who left. That doesn't really do much.

[RLVG]

Makes sense, squeeze out more info before they leave.

So... What about my argument of you potentially using your own meta to your own advantage?
You did say what your own meta is, as in what you'd do in what position, so what about you being scum but you're using town meta?

[Unknown1234]

I need to brb for a few minutes, but when I get back im going to hound those last two votes because they seem terrible.

[RLVG]

I need to brb for a few minutes

This is Mafia on the forums with 40 hours, you don't need to say you need to afk for a quick bathroom break, having a short meal, or anything.

[blinkskater]

So... What about my argument of you potentially using your own meta to your own advantage?
You did say what your own meta is, as in what you'd do in what position, so what about you being scum but you're using town meta?

This question is just a revolving door....

[Whad]

That is what im trying to get a feel for. I went off an early meta game lead with efekannn, but blink brought up a good point about RLVG.
Do I believe both are scum? I mean it's possible, but it's also possible that neither are, but too me from how fast everything went down there it seems susp, but not enough for me to confidently cast my vote. That is why I wanted to wait for more people, information is towns greatest tool, so why rush a lynch?
If we lynched efa and he was scum, I would assume RLVG was ONLY in the case that he removed his vote before the lynch and tried to back peddle what he did. If efe is not scum, then I would be susp of RLVG, yes.

But as I said, feeling this out and feel the more people who are here to cast opinions, the better odds we have of coming to a correct decision.

Tbh the most information we have is in piling up a ton of votes on someone and putting a lot of people about to be lynched. We can then see patterns in like "hey Player A quickly voted everyone but for some strange reason refused to vote Player B." which then links people. This is why gathering a lot of votes is good. You have to start somewhere at the beginning of the game with 0 evidence so it's hard, but by the time we've voted up (but not necessarily lynched) a lot of people there will be more hard evidence.

So get out that voting ballot and participate in our democracy!

[RLVG]

This question is just a revolving door....

Hmm, true. I'm just proving a point about meta.

[Whad]

This is Mafia on the forums with 40 hours, you don't need to say you need to afk for a quick bathroom break, having a short meal, or anything.

I lol'ed.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Because 5 people still have not said 1 word and we have 2 days to lynch.

???? This is bullshit reason to be a lurker.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

This is Mafia on the forums with 40 hours, you don't need to say you need to afk for a quick bathroom break, having a short meal, or anything.

Just a second... I gotta breathe.

[blinkskater]

Hmm, true. I'm just proving a point about meta.

yes I like your style, that's how I like to play the "mod" version, always do shit to counteract what they think is your meta :P

[Whad]

Btw in games like this with no scum factional kill, it's as important to identify town members as it is to identify scum members. I am liking a lot of Unknown's posts so far since they're productive and probing of other players while also trying to bring new players into the spotlight.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

What i HAVE done is state the informaiton and my thoughts out loud for open discussion. in the mod version of Mafia, information is towns best weapon, and I believe that is the same with forum mafia, it is just different forms of information.

Contradiction. You are now saying you want to gather every little bit of information, and some posts ago you said you didn't want to pressure yet because some people are AFK.

[Whad]

yes I like your style, that's how I like to play the "mod" version, always do shit to counteract what they think is your meta :P

Has distorted played many games around here? What do you think of his attitude that we should slow things down? Do you think that's more town perspective or scum perspective?

Also what did you learn from your vote on Unknown when you said you wanted to see how other players would react?

[Scvmurderer]

Has distorted played many games around here? What do you think of his attitude that we should slow things down? Do you think that's more town perspective or scum perspective?

Also what did you learn from your vote on Unknown when you said you wanted to see how other players would react?

This is distorted first time

[Distorted]

Has distorted played many games around here? What do you think of his attitude that we should slow things down? Do you think that's more town perspective or scum perspective?

Also what did you learn from your vote on Unknown when you said you wanted to see how other players would react?

this is my first game, but I know in the mod mafia games, if a mayor reveals and votes quickly, they lose a lot of chance to get roles/figure things out. I was applying that same logic to this, but it seems these games are a little different lol

[blinkskater]

Has distorted played many games around here? What do you think of his attitude that we should slow things down? Do you think that's more town perspective or scum perspective?

Also what did you learn from your vote on Unknown when you said you wanted to see how other players would react?

No this is his first FM game, but i've played hundreds of mod games with him, I think his attitude is deffinitly pro town, because slowing things down is exactly what we need to do in this type of game IMO, And nobody really reacted to me voting Unk at all

[Distorted]

Contradiction. You are now saying you want to gather every little bit of information, and some posts ago you said you didn't want to pressure yet because some people are AFK.

I never said I didn't want to pressure.

[Whad]

Contradiction. You are now saying you want to gather every little bit of information, and some posts ago you said you didn't want to pressure yet because some people are AFK.

Trudat. What motivation would Distorted as scum have to contradict himself though?

May I also ask if your vote on Efekan is sincere or not?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

But seeing that he has a FM-champion medal and hosts FM games I don't see him playing this reckless as an evil. im still sticking with either Efekannn or RLVG. Efekannn really did have some big tells for me there, and RLVG (whom i have not ever played with) went for him pretty quickly. I feel it COULD have been an early attempt to knock a player out. But everytime ive seen efekannn do that kind of play, he turns out to be evil, so im slanting towards the efekannn lynch still.

I feel RLVG is really wanting to scum hunt and to contribute. He is my highest town lean atm. Efekannn's playstyle is being weird. It's anti-town, but trying to seem legit in some way. I don't like this. Plus, he's being rather silent.

[blinkskater]

this is my first game, but I know in the mod mafia games, if a mayor reveals and votes quickly, they lose a lot of chance to get roles/figure things out. I was applying that same logic to this, but it seems these games are a little different lol

A lot of the FM players will instantly dismiss us new to FM as "newbs" and wont really regard any good input/advice we have, the scum uses this to their advantage. They will say our tactics and techniques from mod will not work in here, especially when we are on the right path to finding the scum

[Scvmurderer]

No this is his first FM game, but i've played hundreds of mod games with him, I think his attitude is deffinitly pro town, because slowing things down is exactly what we need to do in this type of game IMO, And nobody really reacted to me voting Unk at all

Every semi decent player knows to push for a vote wait then they are scum. Vote waiting is a mute point to me.

[Whad]

this is my first game, but I know in the mod mafia games, if a mayor reveals and votes quickly, they lose a lot of chance to get roles/figure things out. I was applying that same logic to this, but it seems these games are a little different lol

Whad has revealed as mayor.

PM me roles pls.

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PS don't actually do it since PMs are not allowed lol

[Whad]

No this is his first FM game, but i've played hundreds of mod games with him, I think his attitude is deffinitly pro town, because slowing things down is exactly what we need to do in this type of game IMO, And nobody really reacted to me voting Unk at all

Well, that could be because people think unknown is town and it's not worth voting him. Or it could be because unknown is scum and his buddies are trying to keep him out of the limelight?

If unknown is scum, who else do you think is scummy and seems linked to him?

[Scvmurderer]

I feel RLVG is really wanting to scum hunt and to contribute. He is my highest town lean atm. Efekannn's playstyle is being weird. It's anti-town, but trying to seem legit in some way. I don't like this. Plus, he's being rather silent.

Efe is always like this. He is a null read and you will get very few slips from him about his role. He is always a safe neutral lynch at all times of game.

[Whad]

I feel RLVG is really wanting to scum hunt and to contribute. He is my highest town lean atm. Efekannn's playstyle is being weird. It's anti-town, but trying to seem legit in some way. I don't like this. Plus, he's being rather silent.

How do you feel about scvmurderer?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

-vote blinkskater

Why did you feel the need to claim this just now? To me this feels like a baddie trying hard to pretend to be a good guy.

Okay, basing a vote on this is heavy but okay.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

How do you feel about scvmurderer?

A big , I haven't reached his posts yet.

[blinkskater]

Well, that could be because people think unknown is town and it's not worth voting him. Or it could be because unknown is scum and his buddies are trying to keep him out of the limelight?

If unknown is scum, who else do you think is scummy and seems linked to him?

At this point I don't think Unk is scum

[blinkskater]

-unvote

how i feel at the moment

[Scvmurderer]

How do you feel about scvmurderer?

What do you think? I think that scv guy is town.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

tbh the biggest issue I have is that your claim is the wrong font size for you to actually be a haloden follower.

I'm gonna give you town points just for that. :P

[blinkskater]

The only read I have atm is that Distorted is likley town

[Marshmallow Marshall]

This seems extremely defensive. RLVG is hardly "leading a lynch" just yet. And then he backpedals in his second paragraph. Lots of text to say nothing. This makes me think that Distorted has something to hide.

Reason why you're that aggressive? I've never played with you, but you seem so RAWRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that I'm not sure if it's that good for the town.

[Scvmurderer]

The only read I have atm is that Distorted is likley town

I dont trust you and your defence of distorted.

[Distorted]

I feel Whad is town, came in here and started getting shit done lol Blink im still neutral on but slanting towards town.

Efek...is efekannn but i am still susp of him as well as RLVG

@Scvmurderer curious to why u came on and insta-voted without questioning anyone else though. To me it seems like taking heat off of RLVG. since that is who i was questioning. Your reasoning of me "wanting to lynch efe, wouldent ur vote go on hte person who actually is voting him?" lol seems a little backwards there.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Distorted trying to hard to lynch Efe. Distroted confirmed armadyus

Don't bring the fucking S-FM Yellow Masquerader back here. NOPE.

[blinkskater]

SCV of course you don't trust us we are confirmed heretics in your eyes, i'm not just defending him because he's distorted, My reasons he's town are as follows this is his first FM game

[Distorted]

@Scvmurderer im still wondering why your voting me for "trying to lynch efe" when you removed the heat off the person who was actually voting him.

[Distorted]

-vote scvmurderer

[blinkskater]

SCV of course you don't trust us we are confirmed heretics in your eyes, i'm not just defending him because he's distorted, My reasons he's town are as follows this is his first FM game and he's probally nervous/wants to play well. he is being pro town in my opinion, some have said his posts lack "substance" but i find them informative, gathering information and hearing from everyone = pro town. You on the other hand come in and throw hear around with no explanations

[Marshmallow Marshall]

-unvote

Nope.

Huh?

-vote Unknown1234

You seem waaaayyy too careful, as if you had democles' sword upon your head. A scum would do that. A townie would push in order to gather information in such a nightless setup. I feel like you are trying to push lynches without touching people.