But we gotta find them before banning them... We are not seers. The clan has recently started its purge, it's probably not finished but it has started. Kicking players just adds to the terrible confusion. Report is the best weapon, since Scv can see reports and take actions both with official warnings and with clan kicks. Now, if you want the job to be done, you must let us do it. I was pissed off by Hacker too, don't worry. But kicking everyone for the actions of a few that are hiding AND because some stupids are framing us won't make things advance.
Nope. Every point has been expressed now. Unless you got something serious with proofs and all, this thread has no reason to be left open because it just makes the job harder for everyone. If you got problems with CHOOOO members, tell Scv or me, and report them on the official report forum.
Close the thread.
All sides have fully expressed all opinions and planned actions and I agree it is no longer productive to keep talking about it in circles.
I did in fact play a few rounds with chooo clan members yesterday and they were fine. That doesn't mean we should forget the storied history but I think they are making an effort to move forward.
Perhaps I was a little more like a lot too aggressive so I apologize for that.
Last edited by Renegade; February 19th, 2018 at 12:04 PM.
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>Choo's are simple people
>people in efekann clans who go and kick people from choo and skwirl clans from every lobby they host.
I like how there's slander of the Choo's name because of Hacker's shit. So now we're all the blame.
Cancer =/= Trolling for the sole reasom that Choo's play to win. and if the players don't like how the meta is played. Then perhaps it is best you don't play mafia.
Meanwhile you have trolls in this forum who are trying to make a case against Choo, however the one time they get reported, they have to make a big shit about it on the forums.
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My point is when they are "found" or proven to be doing what people are saying they are doing. People should be reporting, but sc2mafia punishing them and the clan punishing them should be two separate things. So, if person is found guilty of breaking rules and is punished by the game mods, then your clan should ALSO be punishing the players as well. That is a corrective action that allows everyone in your clan to understand that there are in game consequences and clan consequences for their actions.
The only reason people are so butthurt over Hacker is because he was really good AND because he spammed.
As for the CHOOOO clan, speaking from my own experience, I've found them generally to be decent people. Sure, sometimes they spam. But, while trolling isn't exactly in the spirit of this game, I see nothing wrong with, for example, shitposting on the first day.
The fact that someone had to start a thread against the clan itself and that pretty much nobody from the clan - with a few exceptions - has been reported shows that the clan itself isn't actually guilty of the crimes it is being accused of, and that the accusations are baseless. Keep in mind, I'm a Skwirl player myself, so I'm speaking from an outsider's perspective.
Most of the people who've been reported or who've had disruptive behaviour were generally unaffiliated with a clan - with a few exceptions.
Last edited by ; February 19th, 2018 at 02:37 PM. Reason: Clarification
Well I thought this discussion was over but I guess not.
Hacker was not good in any game I played with him, if you have to spam constantly and ruin the game for others to be good then you have a warped perspective.
CHOOO formally and openly endorsed his griefing for months. By continuing to defend him and past actions CHOOO is endorsing griefing, and if you are a member of Swirl defending him then you are endorsing and actively promoting griefing as well.
Again not surprising that a Skwirl player would come in to defend a Choo because by and large they apparently roam in packs and likely coordinate at the expense of other players no matter roles/strategy.
@renegade ,
Please send evidence of the CHOOOO clan's ''open and formal endorsement'' of griefing. When you have done that, we can talk. Till then, there is nothing to discuss.
Most respectfully,
Magoroth
And again let's dispel with this fiction that hacker was the source of all the griefing. It occurred from the top down.
omg we are back at it again - and by reading this post it is clear you have already forgotten what was said a few pages ago; so let me refresh your memory before you start accusing more people.
That is what I am endorsing. that same post you agreed with earlier.
An issue of concern was raised in this thread several pages ago, by Stealthbomber, Exeter, and Gyrlander, namely that of 'meta-trust'. That is actually a real problem. And it isn't limited to CHOOOO or Skwirl. Pretty much all long-standing players are affected by it (for example: RufusPL isn't the member of any clan, but he always selects the same name), regardless of whether or not they are part of a clan.
Then again, in real life Mafia, for instance, the identities of the individual players are not and couldn't ever be effectively hidden. People who play the same game several times together will develop a trust for one another, and there is little that can be effectively done about it. Nobody can perfectly can conceal their own identity.
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Hm interesting. Renegade preaches do as I say, not as I do.
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Gamethrower.
Last edited by Scvmurderer; February 19th, 2018 at 03:25 PM.
CHOO CHOO, THE DARK GOD CALLS THOSE RIGHTEOUS AND FAITHFUL! FLOCK TO THE DARK MESSIAHS ARMS!
Many choos, including myself, actually will kill SCV or each other early in the game. Meanwhile, due to the fact SCV is one of a few keepers, other keepers are likely to take care of other Choo reports, and all reports of games SCV is in due to the rules of who can do what.
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Why would I sign up to be a "keeper" or whatever when it seems that I am constantly being attacked by those who are apparently kept in high esteem around here (SCVmurderer in particular)?
I don't think there is a desire to see the game improved. Seems like a sisyphean task with all of the worship of a cult leader like SCVmurderer and his flunkies who continue to gaslight me, post fake evidence of my so called "gamethrowing", among many other things.
If this is the type of community you all want then you are welcome to have it.
Don't be surprised when other people react in a similar fashion to me.
I came here to bring to light the formal and systemic support of GRIEFING and SPAMMING and CHOOO CULT TROLLING just because their dear leader happens to be a mafia forum mod or something goofy like that.
Time to shine a light on the systemic abuse that is perpetuated and endorsed by those including SCVmurderer and his flunkies.
This is stupid. Just close this thread. It's basically a flame war at this point.
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@renegade I, on behalf of choo, Apologize.... that you are a sensitize attention-seeking child with nothing better to do than support a forum against a SMALL CLAN IN A MINI-GAME... IN AN ALMOST DEAD VIDEO GAME.
I believe someone named renegade just blatantly threw a game I played in.
How do I report? I am new to the forums.
circles circles I'm getting dizzy folks, bring something else so I can eat my popcorn
(I.E We are going in circles, bring something new with EVIDENCE)
"I don't take advice from people less successful than me"
~Kanye West
More CHOOO gaslighting. How exciting.
Only played one game today and I didn't throw.
Follow this link to report. Instructions are on the page.
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/announcement.php?a=1
Thanks for helping keep the game clean!
CHOO CHOO, THE DARK GOD CALLS THOSE RIGHTEOUS AND FAITHFUL! FLOCK TO THE DARK MESSIAHS ARMS!
More cult worship of a proud griefer named SCVmurderer. Is this what your game has devolved into?
Hello and welcome to the final post of this thread and topic!
If you wish to proceed with claims of griefing or rulebreakers please post a report with a replay, even if it's a small replay, they add up.
If you believe Out of Game communication is being done between groups of people, also report that in reports and replay.
If you have a problem with a particular staff member, post it into the Answer hall, where Admins and High Council will address the situation.
If you have issues on the forums, report the post with the report function and it will also be seen to.
If you are upset this topic is locked, send me a PM on why it should remain open.
Further topics relating to this topic will also be closed or deleted.
Any further words, pm me. Like just pm me yeh?
Thanks for reading.