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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Balance Concern: The current role list allows for a game of "Follow the Cop" to occur, in which a sheriff can immediately claim with minimal risk.
    Last edited by deathworlds; August 19th, 2017 at 03:11 PM. Reason: Doctor =/= Cop
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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Balance Concern: The current role list allows for a game of "Follow the Doctor" to occur, in which a sheriff can immediately claim with minimal risk.
    Hm, you do make a fair point.

    Should I buff the Mafia so that there's a Mafioso and an Escort instead, with Escort becoming a Mafioso upon death?

  3. ISO #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Hm, you do make a fair point.

    Should I buff the Mafia so that there's a Mafioso and an Escort instead, with Escort becoming a Mafioso upon death?
    I would think so.
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    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
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    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
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    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
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    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Balance Concern: The current role list allows for a game of "Follow the Doctor" to occur, in which a sheriff can immediately claim with minimal risk.
    i think the setup's balanced as is. Usually in this type of setup, a mafia has to claim sheriff to have some sort of chance.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  5. ISO #5

    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    i think the setup's balanced as is. Usually in this type of setup, a mafia has to claim sheriff to have some sort of chance.
    I don't know if its my place to say anything; I've just played this setup a bunch of times.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  6. ISO #6

    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I don't know if its my place to say anything; I've just played this setup a bunch of times.
    Everyone is welcome to voice their opinions! I would love some insight to the nature of balance for the setup, as I have not played this setup specifically before.

    I did do a bit of research however.

    This setup is similar to Pie E7, a setup on mafiascum that is almost the same, with the only difference in the setups being that there is a mafia aligned escort. I've read discussions on whether the consort can perform a kill AND roleblock at the same time, that argument is irrelevant in this case, but they all agreed that the mafia should at least HAVE the consort in order to prevent a game breaking town strategy (Follow the Cop).

    Do you have links to the games you have played before? I'd like to take a look at them.
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    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
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    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
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    fucketh me in the ass

  7. ISO #7

    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Everyone is welcome to voice their opinions! I would love some insight to the nature of balance for the setup, as I have not played this setup specifically before.

    I did do a bit of research however.

    This setup is similar to Pie E7, a setup on mafiascum that is almost the same, with the only difference in the setups being that there is a mafia aligned escort. I've read discussions on whether the consort can perform a kill AND roleblock at the same time, that argument is irrelevant in this case, but they all agreed that the mafia should at least HAVE the consort in order to prevent a game breaking town strategy (Follow the Cop).

    Do you have links to the games you have played before? I'd like to take a look at them.
    EpicMafia has this as one of their core setups 7 player setups.

    On Day 1, Mafia and Sheriff claim Sheriff. On Day 2 Sheriff outs his claim, and Mafia comes out with a clear or mafia. (They're okay in this situation as long as they don't guilty the doctor). Typically at this point its 4 v 2. Optimal thing is to skip because cop makes it to next day and villagers get clues. Day 3 decides game in which a cop is lynched. If mafia gets lynched, cop has the clears. If cop gets lynched, town loses.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  8. ISO #8

    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    EpicMafia has this as one of their core setups 7 player setups.

    On Day 1, Mafia and Sheriff claim Sheriff. On Day 2 Sheriff outs his claim, and Mafia comes out with a clear or mafia. (They're okay in this situation as long as they don't guilty the doctor). Typically at this point its 4 v 2. Optimal thing is to skip because cop makes it to next day and villagers get clues. Day 3 decides game in which a cop is lynched. If mafia gets lynched, cop has the clears. If cop gets lynched, town loses.
    Why not immediately lynch between the two sheriff claims? You either lynch sheriff, and lynch mafia the next day; or lynch mafia, and have a doctor'd sheriff for the rest of the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

  9. ISO #9

    Re: S-FM Super Basic (7P)

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Why not immediately lynch between the two sheriff claims? You either lynch sheriff, and lynch mafia the next day; or lynch mafia, and have a doctor'd sheriff for the rest of the game.
    if you lynch the sheriff in 4v2, it becomes 2v2

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

 

 

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