S-FM 230: Pulp Fiction

[Because_why_not]

Let me go to sleep!

First, i said Marshmallow Marshall votes with you. That means, he votes the same person you vote.

Your wording was ambigious so I'm willing to give you BOTD.

Anyway, your argument was that I was putting my scumbuddies in the "would not lynch" section, and somehow the other scum team too (which would be an achievement in itself). So now you seem to have changed your story to clutch at dem straws.

Unless you think I would make it even more obvious that I'm teamed (as you have suggested) with Marshmallow, that we also vote the same person too? I mean, I guess the concept isn't foreign, but my list would already a give away, in your mind, why tie us together further? What if something happened to me in this scenario?

I know we don't know each other, and self-meta is as good as you take someone's word, but I wouldn't fuck over myself and my team so easily as a wolf.

By the "from the start of the game I've wanted to sheep someone", i meant you tried to lynch someone with too few proof.
You suspected people throughout all the day, but never voted anyone. This is scum play.

I've changed the order of your post, because these things contradict each other.

I haven't said I want to lynch a bunch of people and gone on smear campaigns without having the balls to vote. I've collected a fair bit of data and made my choice, the person I was voting for wasn't participating and I don't see their excuse as credible.

The list contained people I would lynch - mostly nulls who I didn't see why they would be Town. You still haven't got back to me on that point when I asked you if you could prove me wrong and why I should reconsider.

I also think it's funny, that me and were actually on the person you wanted lynched, and then you come in all threatened out of nowhere.

Your post reaction on my meta-hunting vote on Rachyl was to make me look scummy, which is obviously scum play.

Erm... So trying to find out what a player is like to make a more informed decision on them is scummy?

Lawl. I'm not going to dignify that one.

You have said that all people you want to lynch are everyone else, means, you want to lynch someone who isn't on notlynchlist. Now you try to make it look like you meant something else/
Don't make people think you don't know some evils know eachother. You also probably didn't read the setup or your rolecard. If so, my vote is OMGUS vote.
You know that there are more townies, than evils. Yet you still put 8 ppl on your list, like if you were evil. That makes a good point.
Try harder.

Oh, so you're voting me because I said I would lynch you?

And no, I made it very clear to you and even before you that these were nulls that I would lynch. Like I even said, I'm not even a fan of that practise, but when I've got nothing else and I don't see why they could be Town, I'd rather choose them than no lynch. No lynch spoils the day's efforts - might as well get some information out of the day to build from there.

And yes, I did read my role card and the set. I'm quite familiar of what it is and I have to do. I've also read that scum know each other, and while they can win with each other, they don't know who the other team are. It would be ridiculously unbalanced if Rapists and Others knew who the members of the other team were (we'd be in lylo today I think)

Again, try harder.

[Because_why_not]

You pay attention only to something that helps lynching me. This is a good proof.
Marshall never did anything serious. Idk what's wrong with you.
If i die tonight, i will not be surprised.
Otaku came to read the thread, therefore, there is probably one more vote on me.

This makes no thread.

If I say stuff that doesn't add up, is contradictory or wrong, I'm gonna pull you up for it. I like how you're basically admitting that you're being scummy (bolded), but you're trying to defend the scumminess rather than suggest that what you're doing is something that you would do as Town anyway or even show that I am twisting things and use that to say I'm scummy rather than this :P

But hey, if you've dug yourself in a hole, might as well see how deep you can go, amirite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Because_why_not]

Okay say it with me:

B-E-D-T-I-M-E

[Because_why_not]

This makes no thread.

If I say stuff that doesn't add up, is contradictory or wrong, I'm gonna pull you up for it. I like how you're basically admitting that you're being scummy (bolded), but you're trying to defend the scumminess rather than suggest that what you're doing is something that you would do as Town anyway or even show that I am twisting things and use that to say I'm scummy rather than this :P

But hey, if you've dug yourself in a hole, might as well see how deep you can go, amirite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No thread = no sense

I'm tired...

[Because_why_not]

This makes no thread.

If I see* stuff that doesn't add up, is contradictory or wrong, I'm gonna pull you up for it. I like how you're basically admitting that you're being scummy (bolded), but you're trying to defend the scumminess rather than suggest that what you're doing is something that you would do as Town anyway or even show that I am twisting things and use that to say I'm scummy rather than this :P

But hey, if you've dug yourself in a hole, might as well see how deep you can go, amirite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

See not say

If I say something like that, people feel free to pull me up.

Anyway, it's clear I need sleep...

[widomakr]

Message to the active players:

You know who you are, and since this game has quite a few... Less postie people then we've gotta make them talk.
Today we will focus on learning how people post instead of a focus on scum hunting.


@widomakr

-vote widomakr

Your post does seem suspicious, anyone using "..." seems like they have something to hide, why are you posting like that?
Is it role-play?
Is it a message?
Is it how you always post?
Or are you scum and this is how you post as scum?

really now... well... lets focus on you...your pic is that of a gnome... whom is known to be a greedy bastard... and bringing me into question after I said that we should all be nice to eachother means that you side with Evil...

-Vote SuperJack

only an evil person would question a light heart post such as this...

[Hybrid]

-vote Because_why_not

lynch this nigga and end and end and end to thelong fucking smesgaes

[Hybrid]

also i lied

[Hybrid]

and also meow

[Hybrid]

also cuz y not i wanna kill ur irl to logn massages fu

[Stealthbomber16]

-just want to see what Pokémon emojis I can create-
:minior: lusle: :ditto: :dragonite: :dialga:

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/misc.p...d=vB_Editor_QR
<-- we call this one fragos because of a dude named fragos

[Hybrid]

:smurf

[Hybrid]

oh fuck so close

[Hybrid]

[Stealthbomber16]

back there
Because_why_not is probably mafia with ppl he said he wouldn't lynch
aight, it;s right
7 towns and 1 butch he wants to lynch

-vote Because_why_not

I'm fully aware of the gap between his will and wont lynch pools. My problem with this post is that I mostly agree with him. There's been a lot of inactivity between a lot of the people on this site and I don't like it. A lynch on butch is not really a bad lynch though. It's kind of "meh". I wouldn't be opposed to butch claiming now so that we don't end up lynching them.

really now... well... lets focus on you...your pic is that of a gnome... whom is known to be a greedy bastard... and bringing me into question after I said that we should all be nice to eachother means that you side with Evil...

-Vote SuperJack

only an evil person would question a light heart post such as this...

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

-vote Because_why_not

lynch this nigga and end and end and end to thelong fucking smesgaes

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

-vote Nawa

As much as I don't like Hybrid I don't think his lynch will be happening today. Nawa is far preferrable to B_Y_N.

[Hybrid]

I'm fully aware of the gap between his will and wont lynch pools. My problem with this post is that I mostly agree with him. There's been a lot of inactivity between a lot of the people on this site and I don't like it. A lynch on butch is not really a bad lynch though. It's kind of "meh". I wouldn't be opposed to butch claiming now so that we don't end up lynching them.



REEEEEEEEEEEEEE



REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

-vote Nawa

As much as I don't like Hybrid I don't think his lynch will be happening today. Nawa is far preferrable to B_Y_N.

;-;
but...
i ...
i love you
anyways i ll do a shitty amount of big thread that everyone will agree of my opinion in an hour or so maybe 2 hours later idk
tho before that my opinion about the others is widomakr and rachyl
for the rapists sj cuz_y_not efekannn(he might be butch as well) and you stealthy
rest town imo i ll write down why but first i gotta take a shower then walk then take a shower again then have breakfast etc etc too long progress

[Stealthbomber16]

;-;
but...
i ...
i love you
anyways i ll do a shitty amount of big thread that everyone will agree of my opinion in an hour or so maybe 2 hours later idk
tho before that my opinion about the others is widomakr and rachyl
for the rapists sj cuz_y_not efekannn(he might be butch as well) and you stealthy
rest town imo i ll write down why but first i gotta take a shower then walk then take a shower again then have breakfast etc etc too long progress

You listed four people for rapists. You're pushing a lynch on someone because they're being bullshit with their reads but you listed four people who could be rapists. There are three.

Convince me why B_W_N is rapist. Show me an ISO or something productive. I want to understand your thought process because I completely disagree with you.

[Hybrid]

i will but i m too lazy atm
i ll paly some ranked screw the walking lolz

[Hybrid]

also nawa why did u unfreind me on b.net i missed you

[Nawa]

Okay, BWN isn't scum.
But Marshmallow is.

He is inactive for whole day.
His reaction to my Rachyl vote was "letz lynch 'em, if u say so"
He says Mesk is too aggresive, when she isn't.
That's nearly everything he said.\

My decision isn't final, but my vote changes.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

i didn't unfriend anyone

[Rachyl]

hi i am town

[Stealthbomber16]

hi i am town

ill let mesk handle this one

[Rachyl]

Glitter on the west streets
Silver over everything
The rivers all wet
You're all chrome
Dripping with alchemy
Shiver stop shivering
The glitter's all wet
You're all chrome!!!!!!!

[Stealthbomber16]

Glitter on the west streets
Silver over everything
The rivers all wet
You're all chrome
Dripping with alchemy
Shiver stop shivering
The glitter's all wet
You're all chrome!!!!!!!

What's your opinion of nawa?

[Rachyl]

What's your opinion of nawa?

Nawa is obviously not scum because he is scum hunting and he is trying hard to find out who it could be so i beleive he is town

[Suntax]

DAY 1 END

As the night creeps onto the city of L.A. The gang year and riot through their contacts and enemy's in a attempt to find Butch.
The failed attempts close as Vega returns to see Jules sat on a pristine white couch talking with Miaabout foot massages.
Vega, holding a bloodied Mini Uzi sits on the other couch looking at Marcellus in despair.
"Nothing, absolutely fucking nothing"
Marcellus shakes his head looking at a glass of whiskey and a shotgun propped against the table, he waves his hand down in ssilence and grins walking off into another room.

With no sign of the couple in the diner they shot Jules and robbed the people one can only assume they have left downtown L.A..

The rapists return to the shop after a long day scouting, upon arrival one of the rapists is dressed in a gimp suit and Leashed, dragged to a box.
"Go on boy in the box" the gimp crawls into thecage inside the box, the box and cage locked up and closed the other 2 sit and begin discussing later plans.

Day ends 6:45PM GMT on the 31st July

In regards to replacements I am looking currently for a potential replacements for slayer, if you wish you may ask on behalf of me for a replacement if the need arises.
Thank you

Your Lord and savoir
Quentin Tarantino

[Suntax]

DAY 2 START

The day dawns on LA the scent of smog and death fills the air as the LAPD swarms a diner, inside the diner lays a body.
The gang walk into the diner with police protection they look and the ground laughing, marcellus turns to a cop and asks what happened.
he walked into the diner, grabbed his-self a booth sitting down and began digging into a plate of bacon and eggs.
All of a sudden bullet shots rang through the air, high pitched ringing fills the air as he attempted to run to the door, with no remorse 2 revolver rounds smashed into kneecaps. he let out high pitched screams and fell to the floor tears rolling down his face as he crawled to the door. he turned to see a woman stood laughing above him while a man walked around the diner collecting wallets and shooting in the air.

The woman turned to the man saying "Hey honey watch this" she manically laughed and let out the remaining 4 rounds into his head, blood dripped to the floor as the woman and man run from the diner jumping in a old 50's sports car and driving off.

Marcellus looks down at the man, inspecting his bag you find a sheet of paper reading "Victims who got away", you also find a cop uniform and a shotgun.

SLAYER HAS DIED
HE WAS THE RAPIST COP

Players	Roles	Grave
Mesk514	Unknown
Stealthbomber16	Unknown
Otakudweeb69	Unknown
Nawa	Unknown
DEAD	Rapist Cop	Slayer
Widowmakr	Unknown
Hybrid	Unknown
Spruance	Unknown
Efekannn02	Unknown
Rachyl	Unknown
Superjack	Unknown
Marshmallow Marshal	Unknown
Because_Why_Not	Unknown

7 votes to hammer.

DAY ENDS 7:15 GMT 2ND August

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Good morning guys, sorry for the AFKing of last day...

-vote Nawa

seriously, "all I did is lets lynch him, cause he says so"... no. If you look at my reasons, you will understand.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

LOL the non-speaker was a rapist LOLOLOL

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Anyone here? It's day two! WAKE UP GUYS ITS MORNING!!!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Efe has softly claimed, so did Hybro, therefore he is probably neutral evil.
Marshmallow Marshall has never done anything serious. He is lying and that gives more proof to my point.
SJ has never done anything serious. He is lying and that gives more proof to my point.
If this is still not enough to lynch him, i will find more proof.

And my argue with Rachyl? I've done many serious things. SJ was just silent. And you are just saying "ITS HIM OH NO ITS HIM NVM ITS HIM"...
Make up your mind. You want to look like a scum hunter too much, and it makes you suspicious to my eyes. Just like when someone claims spy and outs two mafia, but can't find the third (for an obvious reason).

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I don't think I've ever had so many nulls in a game. Still, I guess it's D1 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

People I wouldn't lynch:

Otaku
Stealth

SuperJack
Marshmallow Marshal

People I would lynch:

Mesk514
Nawa
Slayer
Widowmakr
Hybrid
Spruance
Efekannn02
Rachyl

So basically every else lol

Who even is Slayer? I looked at the replies, and they haven't made a single post it seems.

Mesk? What are you doing exactly? Out of saying "I am town.", you didn't post anything about the game.
Efekannn is inactive.
Nawa is witch hunting too much.
Slayer is dead.
Widowmakr is rather inactive, but has a few posts.
Hybrid isn't doing anything serious for now.
Spruance is inactive.
Rachyl is having trouble, but not acting too scummish at the moment. She may just be bad, since her behavior favors evils (attracting votes on herself).
SJ is just sitting there, rather inactive.
Stealthbomber is very probably a "good" role.
Otaku is... a pokemon?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

ony: ony: ony:

crap it doesn't work

[Marshmallow Marshall]

LOL it makes ... not exactly what I wanted.

[Mesk514]

I am town. I've been having some drug/boyfriend issues. My ability to scum hunt is not up to par at the moment.... but I am town

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I am town. I've been having some drug/boyfriend issues. My ability to scum hunt is not up to par at the moment.... but I am town

We are all town, lets live happily ever after and have fun! And---*gets shot*

[Suntax]

I FORGOT TO MENTION
MANDATORY LYNCHING IS NOW ACTIVE
IF NO LYNCH IS REACED HIGHEST VOTED PLAYER WILL BE LYNCHED IN THE EVENT OF A TIE IT WILL BE RNG

[Nawa]

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

omgus

[Nawa]

And my argue with Rachyl? I've done many serious things. SJ was just silent. And you are just saying "ITS HIM OH NO ITS HIM NVM ITS HIM"...
Make up your mind. You want to look like a scum hunter too much, and it makes you suspicious to my eyes. Just like when someone claims spy and outs two mafia, but can't find the third (for an obvious reason).

You never did anything serious. Now you have put your disguise and doing some shit.
You just went on sheep train and now you try to counterattack.
After you started arguing about Rachyl, u quickly retreated.
Even if everything you said counts as serious thing, it's still not enough to be "Many".

[Nawa]

You are trying to give yourself value and counterattack. Nothing else u do.

[Stealthbomber16]

Going to continue the train I was on yesterday.

-vote Nawa

Nawa what is your opinion of Hybrid/Efekann

[Nawa]

Hybro is full of shit, but he doesn't vote me, atleast.
Efe is afk all game, but it isn't meta.

[Because_why_not]

So yesterday I read over the me/Nawa interaction when I wasn't tired and needing to sleep, but refusing like a child. Honestly, I think Nawa, albeit in a moment of hysteria, was saying what he really believed.

Let's look at how he(?) entered the thread after seeing his name in my “would lynch” list:

back there
Because_why_not is probably mafia with ppl he said he wouldn't lynch
aight, it;s right
7 towns and 1 butch he wants to lynch

-vote Because_why_not

Let's be honest, it's one hella reaction, I think there's an idea that OMGUS is a scum trait, but I highly disagree. It depends on HOW the OMGUS is done, and if they believe what they are saying. Mostly, only Town know they're Town, which is why you can get lash outs because they know they're right (honestly, I think I come off as more arrogant/dickish as Town in interactions for this reason).
Nawa then begins to push his idea (which I'll talk about).

Compare it to this, where I'm OMGUSed, but half heartedly. Mesk doesn't do anything with it but call me scum.

wtf, why would you wanna lynch me? you must be one of those roles that has eliminate the red as their wincon.

[Because_why_not]

Back to Nawa:

Aight, now my vote will stay at Because_why_yes.
From the start of the game he tried to sheep someone, or otherwise, he tries to act as town too much.
Marshmallow Marshall also votes with him, and he is on B_W_N's no-lynch list.
Third way is he tries to convince people to lynch who he wants, as SB16, SJ, Otaku and Marshmallow all voted someone he wants to vote or didn;t vote at all. And if so, he succs af

Efe has softly claimed, so did Hybro, therefore he is probably neutral evil.
Marshmallow Marshall has never done anything serious. He is lying and that gives more proof to my point.
SJ has never done anything serious. He is lying and that gives more proof to my point.
If this is still not enough to lynch him, i will find more proof.

These are the follow ups to his vote. When I looked back, I actually got a Town feel from them, and here's why:

1. He clearly believes what he's saying is right.

2. He believes he has evidence, and is sharing that.

3. He's showing his thought process. This is something that generally the hardest part to do as scum imo, because this is how you show you believe what you say.

I still don't like his “you're too Town, so imma vote yo ass!”, but maybe this is a little bit of paranoia and fear of the unknown coming into play with his thoughts. He gave his reasons that he thought I was buddying people, and genuinely saw me as the biggest threat (because the only things scarier than a wolf, are a deepwolf (scum who have made it into a Town circle) a powerwolf (scum who control the thread)).

Also, he's using other people in his reasoning. He's gathering information from all other the thread. He's making decisions based off evidence and showing it. He's hard on the confirmation bias, but these aren't just empty thoughts.

[Because_why_not]

After a very little back and forth, we then get this:

Okay, BWN isn't scum.
But Marshmallow is.

He is inactive for whole day.
His reaction to my Rachyl vote was "letz lynch 'em, if u say so"
He says Mesk is too aggresive, when she isn't.
That's nearly everything he said.\

My decision isn't final, but my vote changes.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

i didn't unfriend anyone

Two things about this:

1. He goes after the most active player, and he goes for it fairly hard, and keeps his own doing it, which shows again, he's pushing what he believes is right.

2. He changes his mind after interaction with me and Stealth. Now, this is something that by itself isn't a scum or town tell imo. YMMV on this, but I think it's an acceptance rather than a back down.
He's still on the same belief train, when he goes for Marshmallow instead. He's looking for ways to be right. He wants to be right.

[Because_why_not]

TL;DR I think Nawa is actually Town judging by that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Because_why_not]

Hybro is full of shit, but he doesn't vote me, atleast.
Efe is afk all game, but it isn't meta.

You're best moving away from this really.

If you think about it, is there any reason that scum wouldn't vote you? What do you think? Is there a benefit/cost?

[Nawa]

If i have 2 scum reads, i can deal with one voting me first

[Nawa]

Plus hybro hss softly claimed and mmm didnt

[Because_why_not]

So revision on my list. Honestly, the best way to get people going is saying you'd lynch half of the players lol

(Groups are generally unordered though I leave gaps so show order)

People I think are Town:

Otaku
Stealth
Nawa

Marshmallow

Null - did something D1

SuperJack - got involved for a little bit, but then disappeared. Want more from them today

Null - meh

Efe - read a game where they were the same and were Town. Not an excuse though. Come and play!

People I would lynch:

Mesk514 - The "I'm Town, gaiz" is strong in this one. And pretty boring too.
Widowmakr - Would enter the thread D1 read, and leave without saying a word.
Hybrid - Plenty of posts, but what is he actually doing? Posting to post.
Spruance - Did explain the Stealth vote tbf, but I don't think did enough to be in the same (null) group as SJ.
Rachyl - appeared again, to Town read Nawa then nada. Still don't believe her "I thought we were playing in the signup page" excuse.

Of those, atm, I'd probably be more willing to shoot Hybrid or Widow point blank in the face.

Flip a coin, let's go:

-vote Vote Hybrid