S-FM 227 Lady Gaga

[Fury]

Guys, can we just hammer Suntax?

[Mesk514]

Ok ranger rick, give us your reads! Whad also asked for fans. provide reads and fans. nAO.

whad can lick my cunt tho
so can suntax

[Fury]

Put your vote where your cunt is.

[PowersThatBe]

Guys, can we just hammer Suntax?

chill

ccantman hasnt responded to my points against him yet.

[Sinon]

@Trine Never having to have one's words be read critically or taken seriously like fury makes one more like dead fruit that's fallen off the tree than low hanging fruit. And scum is scum no matter where in the tree they are. But, I suppose I could spend less time on fury and more time trying to make the other scum.

[PowersThatBe]

@Trine Never having to have one's words be read critically or taken seriously like fury makes one more like dead fruit that's fallen off the tree than low hanging fruit. And scum is scum no matter where in the tree they are. But, I suppose I could spend less time on fury and more time trying to make the other scum.

No you need to consider the fan as a nuetral really, especially jester. But instead of killing someone at night, someone gets converted. Basically, any lynch that isn't a lynch on gaga is a lynch that will result in the loss of 1 to 2 town by the next sunrise.

However, yes, I think your focus would be best looking outwards towards the larger scope. Besides you I have placed 3 other scumspects, one of which seems to be a strong read with others. I'd like you to consider other possibilities.

If we cant decide on someone, fury could be a good lynch, but I really really don't want to lynch him over other people because I think he's just wifoming everyone.

[Fury]

If we cant decide on someone, fury could be a good lynch, but I really really don't want to lynch him over other people because I think he's just wifoming everyone.

Yes, me good lynch indeed.

[Fury]

Trine, just keep in mind I could be doing this as lady gaga knowing I'd be so easy a lynch that I never actually get lynched.

[PowersThatBe]

@Sinon and by low hanging fruit I mean he's making himself an easy lynch target on purpose so we can analyze who pushed his lynch when he flips town. Thats the town motivation for why he would do what he's doing. Also, it prevents him from getting converted because there's too much of a risk of him being lynched and his interactions would fall back on gaga/he's a loose cannon and in a game like this, it's doubtful the scum would take the risk of having him accidentally wifom into a game throw.

Scum motivation is that he's simply a gaga shield and is fan at most. Gaga motivation is that he wants us to read him as scum acting acummy to appear as town acting scummy to make us think that he is too scummy to be scum, and that's whads point. Right now he's wifoming really hard and any possibility is possible at this point because we have no other information.

[Mesk514]

Trine, just keep in mind I could be doing this as lady gaga knowing I'd be so easy a lynch that I never actually get lynched.

lol

-vote Fury

lets prove this wrong then

[PowersThatBe]

lol

-vote Fury

lets prove this wrong then

oy vey

[PowersThatBe]

I cant say fury isn't doing this to himself, but whatever. I probably wont jump on this train. So I'll let other people decide his fate.

RN. I see him as town trying to get scum baited into voting him.

But he's making a case for himself to be lynched and is borderline GT if he's town. Meh.

[Mesk514]

hes a cocky fuck, off with his head

[PowersThatBe]

hes a cocky fuck, off with his head

Well what are your other reads then, since fury's fate is p much sealed with some people?

Anything you'd like to get out today in case you're potentially fanned tomorrow and we can no longer trust your opinion?

[Fury]

I'll put it like this, if I get converted, then I can't give you reads. Since I'm L2, I'll write a bit. Talking from phone now(fuck auto correct ) so I can't write as much. @Whad , unvote me.

Simon is a fan and syntax is gaga. If you think syntax could be scum then voting me is illogical and places and strong scum read on yourself. Top town reads are whad and trine (figured this out in the way they pushed me earlier). Game ends if we vote suntax. Also, can't man is town on meta alone as he trolled day 1 oddly enough.

[Fury]

Read on 22 is iffy. He seems scummy, but I've only see his town play before so I'm meta town reading him. He

[Fury]

I'd rather not be accused of GT after this and I promised reads at L2. Mesk, don't get me banned from some games please lol. If I get hammered today, then it'd look bad. Not in the mood to defend my play, so I'd take it in the ass. I'm also likely bisexual, so I'd probably enjoy it.

[Fury]

Unvote for anal!

[PowersThatBe]

Unvote for anal!

l-2 is making you sweat.

Unfortunately town wouldn't care b/c they wont lose.

Fan wouldnt care because they wont lose.

Only gaga would care


OH FURY WHY YOU HAVE TO WIFOM so much.

[PowersThatBe]

and @Unknown1234 chill bae

you're coming in extra spicy. Why don't you sit back and relax, chilling all cool, playing some bb

wrong show.

No you fucker, lynching fury is right and wrong for so many reasons, but you need to think this through. You're putting him at L-2. with a lot of time left.

IDK.

I'm tired.

[Fury]

I only care because if you guys seriously scum read me, then you're too incompetent to find lady Gaga yourself. We have 2 more mislynches. Are you willing to make me one of them?

[Fury]

I will say if sinon is a fan, then you all can blow me. In ptbs case, I'll fly up so I can return the favor.

[PowersThatBe]

I only care because if you guys seriously scum read me, then you're too incompetent to find lady Gaga yourself. We have 2 more mislynches. Are you willing to make me one of them?

Ayee papi, I don't scum you....but it's harder and harder to defend you lol.

I see why they wanna lynch you, I am not going to join your train.


<3

[Mesk514]

the h8er in me says off with his head

the green in me says protect the other green in the world cause it's so precious

hmmmmmm

[Mesk514]

let me finish doing my nails and i'll unvote

call it letting him walk on a thin line for being an asshat

[PowersThatBe]

let me finish doing my nails and i'll unvote

call it letting him walk on a thin line for being an asshat

good girl, there's way too much time left in the day to lynch him.

Also, keeping him at l-2 makes it so easy for scum to swoop him.

[PowersThatBe]

At EOD if you guys still wanna push him I wont fight you, but I wont join.

Any how it's 3am. I think I'm going to bed.

byeeeeee

[Fury]

Mark my words : suntax is gaga.

[Fury]

Also it's not sweating if I promised earlier to give reads at L-2. Can't quote cuz phome, but said it

[Mesk514]

Also it's not sweating if I promised earlier to give reads at L-2. Can't quote cuz phome, but said it

i have one nail left to paint, Fury GEEELEAU what do you plea?

[Mesk514]

already broke a nail

-vote unvote

[Suntax]

hello I'm here,reading through and what not however I would like to address fury.
The WIFOM he is using is totally overwhelming to me however my take on it is simple.
option 1-he is town looking very anti-town and juggling lynches against him, this would act as a repellent to gaga and in turn make him a strong town and in turn a form of leader in the game, the issue is however if we accept this option and day he is town then his WIFOM breaks down and in turn gaga could easily fan him without anyone knowing.

option 2-He is Gaga using WIFOM as before to try and make himself look anti-town while he is actually town (which he is not in this scenario) this would allow him to stay clear of the town scumdar. Now this hasn't happened and we can see fury at L2 pushing a actual defense and continuously tunnelling me. With this if fury was gaga, Trine is the most likely fan with her defending fury quite a lot.

My take on that situation.
now i read proper.

[ccantman]

1. You are 1 of 3 things.
1A. Very new and confused.
1B. Very very Dumb
1C. Lady GaGa.

So because i answered your question honestly, I am now a scumspect. I said I would pick fury or Mesk/Unknown as my fan, and gave a very detailed and complete answer. The three of us decided to "town pack" at the beginning. In multiple games i've played with Mesk, we've always found each other to be town and formed a nice block. My last game when I was marshall (cant go into too much detail b/c on going still) fury and I buddied pretty early into the match. I was confirmed town then. So using that as your reasoning is purely stupid.

TBP was inactive. He posted a couple of shit posts and left. People all agreed he'd be a good vote, and I don't think I was the one to hammer him, and I joined the train pretty early. So you think i'm gaga? Because there was only 1 scum yesterday, and I'll tell you this. PTB HAS NEVER ROLLED SCUM EVER IN HIS HISTORY OF PLAYING FORUM MAFIA EVER. PERIOD. EVER. And I am PTB, so by deduction, I DID NOT ROLL SCUM, AND THEREFORE CANNOT BE GAGA. But by all means, feel dumb. Even though others have said I'm a shining town. At most I could be fan and I would still be a bad lynch today. So again, you're dumb.

And since you're new, we knew that POD was probably going to get replaced out, since he posted 0 times. It's not scummy to not vote someone who is purely afk, actually someone posting very little and disappearing is scummy. So don't waste votes on purely afk people who will probably get replaced. So POD would have been a bad lynch.


And lynching me is a mislynch so that also furthers the goal of GaGa, and you know this. Because well...hmmm I think you're probably Lady GaGa and I'll explain why.


1. Your opportunist buddy vote with 22. It seems interesting that you would quickly jump on my train and put me at L-3. Which is dangerous because if i'm at L-2 then the scum (if they're not you) could easily quick hammer and then boom fan dies and someone else is fan and then gaga can get their fan to shield them. So there's no town motivation for you to try to push my train.

2. Your question, and this hit me when I was driving home after I saw you voted me.

You are new to this site and we know this. You don't know us very well, and this type of set up is purely deception and causing a series of ML's to further gaga's agenda. You asked us who each of us would cult, and didn't even want a reason.

This could be town motivated because you could see interactions. But even you admitted it had little empirical value because the scum share a day chat and they could easily say answers to throw us off their sent by converting the opposite.

Now.

I think the scum motivation for this is stronger.

You are new, so you probably don't have an idea of who would be a good scummate. So you asked us to give you our ideal picks today instead of yesterday because you knew you wanted 22 to be your cannon fodder today. So now you have a nice little bow of conversion targets, and who they're probably going to interact well with, or who they're going to become a target to. This allows you to shield yourself behind these people because you're allowing our inherent or biased associations to give you all the ammo you need to then get off as many ML's as possible so you can just cycle through us.


and for that reason alone.

-vote ccantman

@Fury @Whad part 2

You are not scumspect because you anwsered. You are scumespect because how you answered. Why give two names? If your Gaga, you can only make one fan on N1. Giving two names is pointless, you would need to choose one over the other, and so While you were buddy buddy with Unknown and Fury, You would need one or the other.
If answering my question wasn't scummy then everyone would be town because everyone answered.

The whole "I've never rolled scum" logic will never be an arguement to me. If one rolls scum for the first time, they would still make the argument.

Clearly you knew PoD was being replaced

It's been close to 24 hours. I think all the useful people showed up.

New site meta. Lynch the fucking afkers, because hosts cant be trusted to modkill or replace in a timely fashion. not bitter about a game I just got out of or anything. nope not at all.

And if PoD was modkilled instead of replaced? But regardless I'll answer this below

Just to further refute CCANTMAN's dumb point about me "buddying" fury vote or whatever. Look at everyone on TBP train. Notice anyone? As I stated, I was the second vote. No one gave us another reliable person to lynch at that point, besides the lawyer who wanted to lynch 22. I don't know how you can call me out for something you yourself put at L-1.

Now 22 hammered, and that'd be a great fan choice because that's scummy to come in and hammer like that. As I said before, skiping a lynch would be a good strategy to keep our numbers higher even though we still lost 1. We'd be at 8v2 today had you and 22 not put the final votes on. I think a lynch yesterday was good and a lynch today will be good because we have some pretty viable gaga possibilities. However, it's just inconsistent AF to put a target on my back for putting someone at L4 when you put them at L1 and you tried to paint me as scum. LOL.




Voted at 4:29pm MY TIME



Voted 5:24pm MY TIME




Voted 5:30pm MY TIME




Voted 6:34pm MY TIME





Voted 2:56pm MY TIME the NEXT day. L-1 vote




Voted 3:41pm MY TIME

The original idea was to do PoD, it was switched to TBP. If your argument for defense is time stamps, then how is that your argument that 22 and myself hammered? It was nearing end of day 1. It was pretty clear we all should have lynched day 1

I'm not advocating to not lynch everyday. It is always better to lynch imo, because we might get lucky.

HOWEVER.

We might wanna skip a day in the future to give us more time to consider stuff.

100% lynch today

Even you agreed. So to say we would have one more person had 22 or me not voted is not a point. Any by the time I even voted, I do not think there was enough time to swtich the vote to anyone else. So the initial L-5->L-3 votes basically locked in TBP. Granted TBP returning could of unlocked it, but never happened.

My original issue was that you keep hoping around to everyone.

Though in looking, you've been doing this to everyone, just not with a vote

Also can we lynch sinon or ccantman now? Before they start tunneling everyone.

-ptb

I don't like the lawyer, it's a brand new account. Which suggests to me, we have a ringer.

Could be gaga.

the gaga is the burning phoenix. duh.

(Note this is after you voted on him)
_______________________________DAY 2____________________

My ideal lynch candidate is sinon.

Never trust anyone with sino as the first part of their name.


-ptb

Also suntans shit posts make me think he might possible be Gaga trying to appear town. Feels rather forced to me imo.

Not sure if 22 is scum or just an asshole. But I don't see him contributing to this game for the town either way. All he's done is shit post and post incendiary comments. His apathy to his hurtful comments just is beyond the pale.

This is a omgus vote. Pure and simple I don't want trash like this in my game.

I'll switch later if a bigger scumspect arises, but for now, I'm fucking a okay with getting rid of this toxic fuckwit.

-vote twentytwo

Ok closing up shop and driving home. I'll be giving more detailed reads in like an hour or hour in a half depending how long it takes me to get some food.

You've just been all over the place all game. So who knows

-vote unvote

[The Lawyer]

I'm calling you he no matter what, from here on out you cunt

That is fine with me

I have a sinking suspicion that lawyer was fan'd.

What is this suspicion based on?

Please elaborate on why you have a scumread on me.

It's because the evil pikachu made him say it

You could easily be "fake tunneling" while letting other people take the lead to push other targets..while saying "you scum lean him" as a means of a fake neg interaction so on the surface people disregard your interactions and assume you cannot be scum team.

I don't know if I support lawyers vote. But I see the reason for why she thinks you could be town acting scum.

I patiently wait for the moment when I will see Fury wifoming the shit of every person that didn't know who Gaga was before D2

And there it is

Meh, my reads this game haven't been as on point as usual. Maybe I should take a step back and get carried.

Sounds like I'm fake tunneling Suntax now, but yolo

I feel like Lawyer has changed her play, so I find her to be a fan. Also, it is logical since she was the most active in scum hunting. I shitpost a lot (A LOT), but it seems forced for you. My shit posting isn't forced. It's just that I was

On that note, we have no tells until a fan has died.

lol how did I change my play

I can't see the video ;'(

I get very giddy when high, so that is probably shown in my (very blantant and frankly over-the-line) trolling. It's like I'm taunting you while pretending to be scum. Let me clarify this now: I am not scum nor am I a fan of lady gaga.

I suppose I should have notified the host and replaced out, but here we are now.

You shouldn't have replaced out. Your D1 content was perfectly fine, especially all of your D1 town content that you're not claiming today. *hugs*

Not a fan, but I appreciate your not wanting to lynch me - whatever your reasoning may be.

His reasoning is that he would rather lynch someone who is still town.

If I was Gaga, I would fan The Lawyer. And I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

I'm all caught up.

I think you got the tenses all wrong. It's what will most likely happen and not what happened.

I said the pain is receding quite a bit. I'm not high anymore. I hope you at least tell that from the grammatical structure of my posts. Also, if I was truly scum, then I wouldn't say that. I understand Scum tactics 101.

If you think I'm scum, why aren't you voting me? If you're so convinced that I'm scum and you're town, you should try to lynch me, no? Come on bb lynch me today :*

[PowersThatBe]

@ccantman

1. You're new so I'll forgive this whole "this is scummy because this argument" You don't understand site meta, wifom, or other aspects of this game. You think things are scummy that are in fact, not scummy AT ALL. And yes, I've "been all over the place" because that's how you scum hunt, you accuse different people, then you see how they react and look for tells. So my crime is that I'm not tunneling people I dislike or have a bias against?

2. POD. I never knew POD was getting replaced, but I figured he would be based on hosts annoyance at afks. I am almost NEVER down for policy lynches and lynching POD yesterday would have been a policy lynch. A large majority of the site agrees that letting people get replaced/modkilled is how you deal with afks. NOT wasting a lynch. Also, don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone "agreed" that POD was our option tomorrow. I didn't know who to lynch, so I used a random number generator and it JUST SO HAPPENED to pick POD, and I provided a screen shot. So this whole "BUT WE WERE GONNNA LYNCH POD argument is so weak, and literally just a trash way of thinking.

The largest impact the time stamps have is that there was almost 24 hours for you to convince us to get off TBP if you didn't like that lynch. You didn't so don't cry today.

3. SO YOU'RE reading into obvious sarcastic comments about "lynching you and sinon" -- because you both have a penchant for going Town VS Town with people and distracting our scum hunting. I never pushed either of you in any sort of legitimate way. I made some jokes about sinon's name because of the player "sino" that we have on the site. Sino is a pain in the ass and dense as hell, hence my joke that "I don't trust anyone with sino as the first part of their name."

I joked that it's possible that someone from our site made a new account to play this game so they could avoid getting meta'd or maybe they just didn't wanna deal with people knowing who they are or some shit. It was mostly a joke about someone named "the lawyer" coming out of the wood work JUST for this game. Thats why I said its "possible" they could be a ringer, and they could be gaga.


My its the burning phoenix comment. duh. was 10000000000% sarcastic and a dig at fury. He pushed the burning phoenix lynch and said he KNEW who gaga was day one. I don't like when people are that overconfident, and he was clearly 1000% wrong. A lynch needed to happen yesterday, and yeah I voted for the burning phoenix but I doubted based on the info that we had. that we were ever going to find the gaga day one.


Basically, you don't understand my humor. You also don't read sarcasm.

I would like you to come back to this thread one day and look at your arguments against me, once you are a more experienced player. I think you will cringe hard because you are scum reading me for being sarcastic and making jokes, and then you're also scum hunting me for considering multiple possibilities as my approach to scum hunting.

This is very bad on your part.

And that fact that both you and 22 backed off after I responded shows that you don't have anything legitimate to fall back on. If you had real shit, you'd continue to press me, but you don't because I'm not gaga nor am I the fan.

OH and another note about POD.

It's good we didn't lynch him because now we have Whad who is 10000000% times more valuable to our town than either you or 22 combined. So yeah, not fucking policy lynching someone who is probably getting replaced out is a good move. but anyway.

I have to pee and I wanna go back to bed.

Only so much idiot I can with before 10am.

[PowersThatBe]

option yesterday* wow fuck me

[PowersThatBe]

*only so much idiot i can deal with before 10am."

CORRECTION.

[Fury]

So suntax + Sinon appear to be "scum hunting," but that scum hunting only concerns me. Something makes me feel they are trying to avoid a lynch on themselves ^_^

[Fury]

Never trust a Russian. Vote suntax today!

[Suntax]

So suntax + Sinon appear to be "scum hunting," but that scum hunting only concerns me. Something makes me feel they are trying to avoid a lynch on themselves ^_^

I don't like Sinon i feel his he is only tageting you as you stated and is on a madmans warpath by tunneling a lunch against you.
my previous post was not scumhunting i was however stating my feelings on you and the options you could be persuing.
As I also stated in option 2 Trine could also be scum due to her defense of you.
I feel the lawyer is town as he has been scumhunting and working since web be arrived.
I'm with Trine when it comes to Ccantman, i feel he is new and thus trying to scumhunt based of obvious non dummy things (jokes ect) that said I feel he is town and is at least trying to do well.
i don't have a read on WHAD or unknown as I have not seen much of them throughout the game.
i have previously stated my feelings on 22 earlier so i will not repeat them here.

I abhor your tunneling of me and thus I will place my vote on you putting you at L2
If you are put at L1 i will remove my vote unless there is a overwhelming support of a lynch on you.

From this if you are indeed a hater i reccomend we pursue either 22 or Sinon.

-vote Fury

[Suntax]

I don't like Sinon i feel his he is only tageting you as you stated and is on a madmans warpath by tunneling a lynch against you.

With good reason might I add

[TwentyTwo]

A lynch on fury is just plain wrong. He isn't lady gogo. I know his playing style and he isn't the main scum.

[Fury]

With good reason might I add

Your only scum reads on me are the scummy things I've said while acknowledging that they are scummy. So then your only scum reads on me are reads that I wanted you to have, no? If I'm in constant control of the situation, then how is that good reason? Don't act like you've scum hunted me.

[Suntax]

A lynch on fury is just plain wrong. He isn't lady gogo. I know his playing style and he isn't the main scum.

As I also stated previously fury could be using his meta as a metaphorical sheild.

[Fury]

As I also stated previously fury could be using his meta as a metaphorical sheild.

I stated I could be doing this. Stop pretending like you scum hinted me. You're trying to use me as a scapegoat.

[Suntax]

Your only scum reads on me are the scummy things I've said while acknowledging that they are scummy. So then your only scum reads on me are reads that I wanted you to have, no? If I'm in constant control of the situation, then how is that good reason? Don't act like you've scum hunted me.

I have never scumhunted you I have just stated the obvious WIFOM you could be hiding behind

My vote on you is due to your tunneling of me and I am yet to see a viablr reason besides I shitposted and I have no meta to back it up.

[Suntax]

A very agreeable paragraph, i feel fury is just a loose cannon who right now can be trusted likely due to meta.
i however do not know his meta but it seems this is his playstyle at Least day 1.

Saying that he has stated this is his first cult game so he could be trying out certain tactics to defer a gaga from converting him.
this however leads to infinite WIFOM, with him maybe bluffing (as i have stated previously) or even double bluffing.
this however means his unreadable status as is means gaga could convert him and people would potentially none the wiser as fury has built up a shield of potential WIFOM.

Due to this I am wary of him, placing him around neutral.
if people wish for my town reads I have 2 Ccantman and The Lawyer,

The Lawyer due to his/hers quick to analyse approach on day 1 and Ccantman holds the other town hold due to his use of logic and well working (for lack of other words)

My first real talk about you and WIFOM and meta
post 175

[TwentyTwo]

As I also stated previously fury could be using his meta as a metaphorical sheild.

if you want to lynch him then create an ISO on him today or tomorrow. To me he seems so pro town even if he is a fan.

[Fury]

I have never scumhunted you I have just stated the obvious WIFOM you could be hiding behind

My vote on you is due to your tunneling of me and I am yet to see a viablr reason besides I shitposted and I have no meta to back it up.

I stated the obvious wifom I could be hiding behind. That isn't original still. Other people have scum reads on you and I've always been a gut player anyway. The biggest reason I think you're scum now is you've only scum hunted/voted me, yet have 2 other apparent reads for which you've given no reason. Your pick of Simon is so that when he flips fan you can say "hey guys, I knew it!!"

[TwentyTwo]

My first real talk about you and WIFOM and meta
post 175

This post honestly looks to me like you just saying WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM, a shit ton hoping the idea wifom will stick and make him look more suspicious than he actually is. Hell, If your going to bring wifom into this game then you might aswell mentioned who wifomed the hardest in the last WIFOM FM.