M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

[PowersThatBe]

I suppose that is probably true regardless of what we say now... meh.

or the sheriff depending. lol

[Fury]

I've seen Sino's name lurking there for the whole conversation. I'm going to claim in 10 minutes regardless of whether or not he replies.

[PowersThatBe]

oh and I was in MM

[Fury]

Lol Sino just left the page. He lurked for 20 minutes and then left when I called him out. Ccantman I see you there, what do you think?

[PowersThatBe]

Since everyone else is claiming, I might as well go ahead and do it too.

I am a sheriff, and I've checked Mason-Slaol, and Sino, and both came up not suspicious. However, I can only detect Mafia/Triad and Cult, not any neutral killing roles.

As the DH is...erm, 'accounted for', we know it wasn't detection immunity protecting either, unless one is a Mafia GF.

I suspect this'll catch me a bullet tonight, but oh well.

In the meantime, I've gotta go to work, but I'm liking the idea of pushing Grommor more and more. Therefore...

-vote Grommor

So if we believe this claim is true, then sino would have to be neutral killing.

Unless of course the cult has grown to 3 members.

[PowersThatBe]

if sino was scum

[PowersThatBe]

but then that would be a dumb claim for cult slaol to make b/c he would def get killed and then the other two would be revealed. UNLESS there is a 3rd witch doc. in that case matt zed should be immediately flogged (jk love u boo boo)

[ccantman]

Lol Sino just left the page. He lurked for 20 minutes and then left when I called him out. Ccantman I see you there, what do you think?

I think I'm at work tabbing in an out waiting for role claims to go further

[Trine]

I am asking you to reveal.

it is imperative that we sort everyone today. Town is going to be picked off, and the only way to do this is via cc's. Right now we have a lot of citizen claims/no claims. The scum is def among the citizens. But I need to sort everyone.

Sorry, had a quick meeting with my boss. Alright, since you asked so nicely. I claim Vigilante with 3 bullets. I haven't used any of them though, so I still don't account for extra deaths we had last night.

[Trine]

Lol Sino just left the page. He lurked for 20 minutes and then left when I called him out. Ccantman I see you there, what do you think?

I wasn't lurking, I just left the page open while I was afk. Apologies for the delay.

[PowersThatBe]

Sorry, had a quick meeting with my boss. Alright, since you asked so nicely. I claim Vigilante with 3 bullets. I haven't used any of them though, so I still don't account for extra deaths we had last night.

Why didn't you shoot someone?

[PowersThatBe]

So @SIaol did u visit YZB last night?

[PowersThatBe]

@Fury whats ur claim mate

[Trine]

Since I didn't specify this earlier, let me state that I am at work so if I delay in my response, please don't assume I am ignoring you or skirting the question. I will do my best to respond as promptly as I am able. For the most part I have a lot of down time at work which allows me to participate relatively consistently.

[Fury]

I claim vigilante and I killed YZB.

[Voss]

are you kidding? not even shooting lurkers? that claim is shit.

[PowersThatBe]

STOP

[PowersThatBe]

LOL

[Trine]

Why didn't you shoot someone?

Because I didn't want to get it wrong and fuck over town. As it stands, I likely would have shot SLaoL or Unknown but I felt that a misfire would be worse for town, with multiple potential killing roles on the loose.

[Trine]

I claim vigilante and I killed YZB.

Really? Wow I would have expected you to shoot FB lol

[Fury]

are you kidding? not even shooting lurkers? that claim is shit.

Referring to me or Sino? Frankly, YZB had, for the second time, pushed greatly for a no-lynch. A town who doesn't lynch doesn't control any kills and all kills are in the hands of scum. I could have shot an afk, but they'd be modkilled. Why would I do that?

[PowersThatBe]

Well on 1 hand. If fury is scum (sk) hit FB and that's WHY he was tunneling fb so hard yesterday, then he just killed himself because after this cc we would lynch him tomorrow so that doesnt make sense.

On the other hand. YZB is neutral killing, or cult (as I said) and SIAOL can be healed b/c witch doc, so that's why town sheriff is good cult WIFOM. Which would mean 2 slaols are a cult (LOL) and then so is sino.

Or sino was a role that gets promoted to GF at night following gf death (or he was solo mafia gf) OR there were two mafia and 2 triad.

[ccantman]

I want to say we dont have cult.
If we keep trying to find a 3rd faction that doesn't exist we are going to help the scum.

Now it will suck if the 3rd faction does exist, but I think that story that the first WD saved yzb, and then yzb died without saving anyone fits into the narrative the kills N1 and N2 indicate.


Now on to sino. If we have a vig that hasn't shot, the deaths are consistant if we have gf/dh/sk and the above cult story is true.

Which means I'm included to believe it.

This does essentially give us two shots to find scum assuming we don't lynch sino, so if we mislynch and sino hits scum, I believe the 1 for 1 keeps town alive?

though we very much need sino to shoot someone tonight.

But something to keep in mind, if Sino is say GF, not lynching him to "protect the vig" or the GF attacking the sino target doesn't get us anywhere, so sino should shoot someone without telling the group to verify that in fact we had a vig with the 4th death

[PowersThatBe]

Really? Wow I would have expected you to shoot FB lol

You realize fury just blew your claim out of the water right?

Its VERY unlikely we have a vet and 2 vigis PLUS A BG SHERIFF AND MARSHALL. LOL

[Trine]

Referring to me or Sino? Frankly, YZB had, for the second time, pushed greatly for a no-lynch. A town who doesn't lynch doesn't control any kills and all kills are in the hands of scum. I could have shot an afk, but they'd be modkilled. Why would I do that?

This is the same reason I didn't shoot an inactive player. I expected them to be replaced or modkilled.

[ccantman]

hmm two vig claims.

Fury, why did you shoot yzb, based on how Day 2 was going, I did assume you were a vig during my read through, but I also assumed if you were vig, you would of shot FB. Why did you shoot yzb and not FB?

[PowersThatBe]

@MattZed if there is a vig what is the OoO in regards to scum kills vs town kills (which comes first)

[PowersThatBe]

And lets remember bg saved fury last night

[Voss]

did sheriff say there he/she can't detect nk? i have something to follow up on this.

[Trine]

You realize fury just blew your claim out of the water right?

Its VERY unlikely we have a vet and 2 vigis PLUS A BG SHERIFF AND MARSHALL. LOL

Unlikely? Sure. But not impossible. I have no idea what the host had in mind when he went into making this setup. I stand by my claim.

It's equally unlikely we have 8 citizens.

[PowersThatBe]

hmm two vig claims.

Fury, why did you shoot yzb, based on how Day 2 was going, I did assume you were a vig during my read through, but I also assumed if you were vig, you would of shot FB. Why did you shoot yzb and not FB?

He explains it, and I'm sure he assumed we were going to lynch FB the next day. But good points.

[PowersThatBe]

did sheriff say there he/she can't detect nk? i have something to follow up on this.

Sheriff claimed they cannot detect neutral killing

[Fury]

Really? Wow I would have expected you to shoot FB lol

I already scum read FB and was confident I could lynch him. YZB I was far less confident I could lynch. Considering I failed day 1 to defend Fred (I tried very hard) and day 2 I failed to lynch FB (I tried very, very hard), I didn't think I'd be able to push YZB. In my last game, I wasn't able to push a lynch at a critical moment as well. I really feel like I suck at pushing lynches, but I'm very good at identifying correct lynches.

I also don't call out everyone I scum read because if I do, then they may kill me before I can push them. I'd rather not have claimed, but I'm going to take someone with me tonight.

[Voss]

This is the same reason I didn't shoot an inactive player. I expected them to be replaced or modkilled.

ika already 'fell over' from being inactive. there are no more 'replacements' and shooting someone who is about to be modkilled has the same effect.

i dont like your reasoning.

[Fury]

He explains it, and I'm sure he assumed we were going to lynch FB the next day. But good points.

Yea, that's basically what I was getting at.

[ccantman]

Ok, I think one of the two vig claims is a killer, we just need to figure out which story is more believeable and which is more a cover up.

As it stands.
With the 2 death |3 death nights (I'm exluding BG for now)

We have two cases
A)N1 someone was doctored/NI was hit (which we aren't even sure if NI is a thing in this game)
B)N2 a vig shot.


So basically I think it comes down to this

do you think the game started with two witch doctors or 1?

If we started with two, I think Fury is legit and Sino is the one to lynch

If we started with 1, and we assume yzb was saved N1, then Sino is legit, and Fury is the one to lynch

[ccantman]

And lets remember bg saved fury last night

Did I miss something? How do we know this

[Voss]

I already scum read FB and was confident I could lynch him. YZB I was far less confident I could lynch. Considering I failed day 1 to defend Fred (I tried very hard) and day 2 I failed to lynch FB (I tried very, very hard), I didn't think I'd be able to push YZB. In my last game, I wasn't able to push a lynch at a critical moment as well. I really feel like I suck at pushing lynches, but I'm very good at identifying correct lynches.

I also don't call out everyone I scum read because if I do, then they may kill me before I can push them. I'd rather not have claimed, but I'm going to take someone with me tonight.

too late to say this now, but i was okay with the way sLaoL was rolling over and was going to vote firebringer, but RLVG came up.

[PowersThatBe]

Ok, I think one of the two vig claims is a killer, we just need to figure out which story is more believeable and which is more a cover up.

As it stands.
With the 2 death |3 death nights (I'm exluding BG for now)

We have two cases
A)N1 someone was doctored/NI was hit (which we aren't even sure if NI is a thing in this game)
B)N2 a vig shot.


So basically I think it comes down to this

do you think the game started with two witch doctors or 1?

If we started with two, I think Fury is legit and Sino is the one to lynch

If we started with 1, and we assume yzb was saved N1, then Sino is legit, and Fury is the one to lynch

bg killed DH and DH killed bg

[Trine]

ika already 'fell over' from being inactive. there are no more 'replacements' and shooting someone who is about to be modkilled has the same effect.

i dont like your reasoning.

Except Gyr was replaced this morning by ccantman. Why would I waste a bullet on someone about to be modkilled? Though it seems unlikely all three will be used. Like Fury, I'm sure I have a target on me at this point.

[PowersThatBe]

Did I miss something? How do we know this

How else do you think there were 4 kills? LMAO.

BG died to triad saving fury.

[Voss]

my idea is for fury to shoot sino, and we direct sino's kill. if sino is alive tomorrow we lynch him/her. so we dont have to talk about fury vs. sino and maybe lynch funce instead.

[Sino]

Ok, I think one of the two vig claims is a killer, we just need to figure out which story is more believeable and which is more a cover up.

As it stands.
With the 2 death |3 death nights (I'm exluding BG for now)

We have two cases
A)N1 someone was doctored/NI was hit (which we aren't even sure if NI is a thing in this game)
B)N2 a vig shot.


So basically I think it comes down to this

do you think the game started with two witch doctors or 1?

If we started with two, I think Fury is legit and Sino is the one to lynch

If we started with 1, and we assume yzb was saved N1, then Sino is legit, and Fury is the one to lynch

Why are you excluding the possibility of having a sk?

[Fury]

Did I miss something? How do we know this

I got feedback last night for being defended. No one else cc'd that they were defended.

[Sino]

@MattZed , are you gonna modkill afk people the same way you did yesterday?

[Trine]

Why are you excluding the possibility of having a sk?

Thanks for joining us Iced.

[ccantman]

How else do you think there were 4 kills? LMAO.

BG died to triad saving fury.

I'm say, how do you know the BG was saving Fury

NOt that we had a BG, but both targeted Fury

[PowersThatBe]

OK ENOUGH RETARD ROUND UP. LET ME BREAK THIS DOWN FOR YOU ONCE AGAIN

[PowersThatBe]

N1: NEUTRAL KILLING AND TRIAD KILLD = 2 DEATHS.

N2: TRIAD TRIES TO KILL FURY, BG PROTECTS, BOTH DH AND BG DIE
SK HITS STEALTH BOMBER
VIGI SHOOTS YZB

[MattZed]

@MattZed if there is a vig what is the OoO in regards to scum kills vs town kills (which comes first)

Vigilante kills come after neutral killing kills, which come after Mafia/Triad factional kills.