dont even know whats going on
surprised im not dead
-vote Firebringer
OMG my leader was fucking terrible.
Whoever pushed the lynches are scum.
Bye
im actually pretty triggered that town managed to lynch mason leader d1.
how did the witch doctor die???
Also, I could give a shit about a ladder.
@Stealthbomber16 , you clearly do not know me very well. I see you are among the more sensitive of the bunch, but regardless I am going to have fun in the way I deem fit at the time. I could honestly give a flying fuck if that enjoyment affects you negatively in any way. This game is starkly different from my other 2 because it is a troll game. There are no psychological tricks coming from me. Your psychoanalysis is some pseudoscientific trite bullshit that is so sterotypical of elitists to begin with. Anyways, we could talk on Skype if you'd like (obviously not about the game). I get along with mostly eveyone. It's hypocritical to think you know me.
Morning everyone. Just catching up on what I missed since last night. Please stand by.
Not an FB defense, but I thought the same thing when SP first turned up. Mostly because I imagined that he popped in, realized he was both scum and was about to get lynched and said 'fuck it'. That being said, he at least offered a role and tried to defend himself at the end, which seemed like an odd flip if he was prepared to die and then suddenly changed his mind.
I wasn't here when the hammer fell, but I do feel like we rushed the Marshall lynches a bit. Maybe the first one (a game ruiner) was justified and I definitely thought fred was scum before he got replaced but overall I feel like we should have taken more time and perhaps tried to force some of the more silent players to participate.
I'm sorry Fury but I fail to see how fake claiming mason and/or casting doubt on our ML (which contributed to his lynching no doubt) isn't scummy. I mean it's certainly a bad move considering once the ML was revealed the scum was sure to get lynched, but it certainly wasn't a protown move.
Tragedy Looper is calling to you lol No but seriously, I do feel like there is significantly more participation from some players than others. Trine, Fury, yzb, FB, at least two of the slaols and stealth have been actively posting, but there are many who are either extremely busy or are perhaps afraid of being targeted and therefore avoid speaking up whenever possible.
I don't want to harp on this issue since what's done is done, but to answer your question: It was just that no scum wowould fake claim mason because the risk of cc is so high. It was obviously a WIFOM / troll claim imo. I see now it was a vet bait, but I just found it WIFOM /troll. SP last second subbed in on a near lynch, so obviously he didn't give a shit at first. That was my read at least, whether you consider it legitimate or not is up to you.
got to end of page 15. i'm townreading fury and would follow him.
also, i didn't know this was going to be an 'm-fm' or I wouldn't have signed because I was going to be busy from wednesday to yesterday. i'll be more active now.
Obvious Town
- Trine: Marshall, duh. We should keep an eye out for conversion, nevertheless unless Doc/BG can prevent that?
Potential Town
- Stealthbomber16: I agree with his suggestion that the slaols claim an indentity to aid us in telling them apart. Not sure why he kept acting aggressive towards me, but his overall tone seems townie.
- Fury: Claimed Cultist Day 1 and seems very aggressive. Certainly doing his fair share of scum hunting and is one of the most activate participants. Leaning town at the moment, despite his boorish demeanor.
- yzb25: One of the few who voted to skip rather than jump on the disaster of a lynch train we had yesterday. Seems like more of a town move to me. I'm curious what some of his reads are though.
- Firebringer: I realize this won't be a popular opinion given the current votes, but FB gave secondpassing a chance to plead his case after the replacement, unlike most of you. I can't see why scum would bother. Some might suspect his hammering of alright, but people were insisting he do so while he was trying to get caught up on what was happening and why.
Unsure
- SIaol: Shouldn't you know that if you're Mason? Though Matt did hint that there may be more than one team of Masons...
- SIaoI, Slaol, SlaoI: I'm mostly listing the slaols here for now because I'm having trouble figuring out who is who. I will update these reads once I finish scouring the forum. Fred claimed he was in a team with one of them though. Why would he believe/claim that if he was veteran?
- RLVG: Has been more active than some but doesn't seem to be providing any useful insight, reads, or really questioning anyone.
- Gyrlander: Has posted more than some but openly admitted to not taking the game seriously and that was clear in his earlier activites.
Potential Scum
- Funce: Claimed citizen. Hasn't posted anything of value. Is either barely reading the threads or is pretending not to pay attention (spoke of thinking Slaol was Marshall despite Trine's very active... erm... Marshalling)
- ika: Has made exactly one post at the very beginning of the game (*lurk*) and hasn't posted since. I've seen him on the board, so why doesn't he participate? At the same time, he hasn't been voting anyone, so he might just be busy. Hard to say.
- Iced_Monopoly: Very hung up on Fred vs Slaol. Half of his posts yesterday seemed to be about them. Claimed citizen, which while possible I have a hard time believing it.
- Grommor: Posted twice since the game started, to say hi and comment on Marshall reveal. Yet I have seen him reading the board on multiple occasions without comment or participation.
- Unknown1234: Another player who hasn't contributed much on the town front. But what really makes me suspicious is how their last three posts have just been to vote guilty on someone (alright, fred and now FB) without providing any context or participating in the discussion.
- Voss: Showed up to sheepvote fred but hasn't really participated beyond that (except for helping to lynch the PTB).
Suspected Scum
- None confirmed or strongly suspected yet. If I had to pick one, it would be Unknown1234 based on their recent voting activity and lack of useful posts.
The thing I dont like is that SLAOL claimed mason, then SIaoL didnt claim mason and now the 3rd slaol (I haven't bothered to look at the ltters is coming in an acting like a mason and saying we lynched his leader.
3 different slaols have said 3 different things.
SLAOL is the one with the diamond dogs award and the other shizz
I'm really not sold on Firebringer, I'll have to read his posts again, but I'd look for scum among the lurkers atm, especially Unknown who votes and just goes back afk.
[23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
[23:19:39] DarknessB:-vote Sino
SlaoI - this one voted for FB. This one has not claimed mason.
SIaoI - this one has not claimed mason, but has said (pretty triggered they lynched ML day1)/how did witchdoc die.
SIaol - this one claimed mason. Said I was retard for lynching his boss (OH WAIT, you know who could have stopped that? <--THIS SIAOL had he been here. SHOCKING you have to actually PLAY the fucking game.) So sit on your fucking griaffe dick you worthless piece of shit.
Slaol - this slaol was here day 1 and claimed mason with fred. Was also active during ML lynch and said nothing. Has said nothing, and is just throwing his votes onto trains.
Well either he's lying or he's an idiot. If he were paying attention he has no reason not to defend the ML.
Since fred was proven to be a Vet, this claim bothers me. I get that fred claimed Mason as Vet-bait. But if he is scum, why claim Mason when you know that Mason will know you're not his partner?
lol its so easy to tell who i am.
[23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
[23:19:39] DarknessB:-vote Sino
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search...archid=1173094
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search...archid=1173089
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search...archid=1173085
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search...archid=1173082
The only one I wouldn't want to lynch right now is the one claiming mason and complaining about the Marshall, I'm fine with all the other ones being gone, there's one voting Grommor because sp scumread him, but swapping to Firebringer when it's the most convenient (what happened to that "sp might have been onto something???), another one hoping onto Fire's train without any additional comment, and the third one mostly making fun about PTB's posts and talking about cult.
[23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
[23:19:39] DarknessB:-vote Sino
-vote SlaoI
That's the third one in my list, the one who did put a vote on Grommor to swap it back to FB.
[23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
[23:19:39] DarknessB:-vote Sino
If I'm being honest, what I wanted to use my lynches for were to get rid of the slaols...but then someone decided game throwing was fun...and then the ML decided to be a dick, and then the vet decided to fake claim mason which was proven untrue by the lynch before that.
So yeah, in hindsight. The best course of action would have been to lynch all of the slaols we could have lynched. Especially since every one of them is beyond useless.
I did put a vote on Grommor and then swap it to Firebringer. I thought the points about Grommor were legitimate, but then decided to pressure FB instead. Beyond that, Grommor seems to have been AFK, so pressuring him wouldn't have helped anyways.
For me, I'm going to try and remember to talk all in BLUE from now on in order to help you differentiate me.
And since nobody seems to be doing it, I'll start us off. I got no feedback last night.
I'm not sure SlaoI is the most suspicious of the slaols.
- Wasn't an active particpant until after PTB was lynched.
- He claimed he wasn't Mason Leader (never gave a role)
- Voted fred but didn't vote alright
- Voted grommor at start of day 2
- Changed his vote to FB (after it became clear he was getting a majority of votes)
- He did suggest having people unvote to avoid a scumhammer
- His mention of cultist had to do with Witch Doctor, he suggested WD properly wouldn't spawn without at least one cultist ally.
I really wish ML would have confirmed his underling before he died at least so we had more confirmed town Though I suppose that might have just gotten him killed.
How about you tell us what sp has been onto, now that Grommor's back?
The thing i mostly find suspicious about him is his way of voting, why didn't he try to tell us what he thought about Grommor? He just went with one of sp's scumreads, probably picking an easy mislynch, and swapped to FB when he saw the train growing, that's how I see it.
[23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
[23:19:39] DarknessB:-vote Sino